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tv   Interview  RT  March 4, 2023 1:30am-2:01am EST

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kind of simply be pushed back and forth and nothing will happen. so the real point here is it's far work. it's got to be negotiated and a negotiation is very, very difficult. there's no geographical point where we can divide this up to forces . ah, yours are full of our program here throughout the day on our website on, on our, to our tool. so i had an exclusive interview with prominent russian political philosopher allies on a do them. he says that muffin couldn't negotiate with key the only on russell office, new territories are completely liberated. he also spoke about what changes in russian victory would bring to the world's i think a festival in the present situation, that this dog, i'm possible, i'm possible for all all sides because we didn't liberate it, ah fool,
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territories of our for new subjects. and before this fool liberation, we could not, rick would not stock be stock based on our conditions when russia increases. ah, more, it's independence out there that the victory in you trade, that world will be not ruled by the west, russian victory in ukraine. min, immediately, multi polarity multiple out at the mince, emitted not only the achievement on full scale sovereignty geopolitical so into, for us, but automatically, for china, that is already already other poll thirt full, and we will, will happ immediately after our, our victory. 3 poll, 3 polar world already meet an their root india. that is for
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all, all musts mirandi force poll because india is a great space. a big civilization and huge counter was huge demography, huge potential in economy and not participating nizer on the side though s lower on our side, india could gain extremely now many, many positive results in the multiple or world the lives of you in front russian for those valleys on the didn't is come out right now. here on, on the international i will see the top of the hour. the me mr. do again. thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy schedule. sure. to talk to us 1st like to start by seeing the evaluation basically where we are at now with the special military operation. its been a year. what's your assessment? where are we at now?
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how are things going? i think that's and this especial military operation. that's now is something like a beak and re you and full scale war. so it started s special military operation. now we're good enough to deny that we are dealing with the war and this war, this conflict. chris, different layers. i think debt a on the 1st level. ah, we have now the good all when can distinct over the conflict of civilizations? precisely as several huntington has put it. ah, some years before. and we see how incompatible. ah, between each other ah,
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those civilizations ration christian orthodox, traditional, much more traditional ah, civilization with hey, we inclination to the social justice as a heritage of the soviet time and base all the dream. oh, the eternal greatness of russia online. hence, and modern western global liberal democracy pretending to be unique for off all organization of society, of politics, of economy. and that's liberal globalism is other civilization, these, this civilization global western civilization pretend. and after the fall of the soviet union to become unique. while the only one that made ideal fukuyama was whom i have chance stole to speak to discuss a main idea fukuyama shared,
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i think by present of this ration of biden, that after the fall of the soviet union there, there, there come the end of the history and the history of the history means that western post modern, liberal, global order should be imposed on everybody or should be accepted by the people universally, and is regarded as unique system of values of rules and so on and so on. so russia now is a conflict, a gave this pretension over their western modern global, a liberal civilization to beat unique. russia insists, no, you are wrong. we are other civilization with don't share your values. we deny universal meaning off your rules and we are
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going to establish multiple or world order with the russia independent fall totally, totally free from your influence. does that say about the west moral compass? they're constantly preaching the world about democracy, about human rights, and here they are basically supporting neo nazis that was seen and key as regime. how did they justify that to their own people? first of all, they tried to, to high that for because we could not find 80 any hint, all these, these growing huge movement off. and that's if he cation of ukrainian mines. and that is that reality. but the west sir, on gui denies that. so when a bernardo nearly v, one of the, of the main main room defenders all their liberal democracy on the global scale is meeting with a crana. nazis saying there are no,
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they are not nazis by the swastikas or lay sleeves and so on. so that they try to hide, they try to, to, to hide that this fact. but why a such contradiction? where are the moral norms? because i think the west, as long as i understand the west thinks are in such manner. no, we could not, ah, by other way to create artificial nationalism in ukraine and to, to push your grand ends to white russians because they are not a, ah, already they will be not rated. it would not be ready to fight for liberal wellness because they they dont don, dont mean any think 4 or present days ukrainian or some maybe for some c t t will of both population. but in general, for these traditional society,
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verbal relish can not be that the main, the main goal to defend. so the need some think other and that muster radical form to 2 or more to create this artificial. so you, the consciousness is a nationalist or radical formal another nationalism, obama, ukrainian russia for big fascism. and that is used by liberals, by global global liberals. because in their territories, they strictly prohibit any hint on patriotism. and they, they destroy any kind of nationalism or, or patriotism in their territories. but in you gram, ah, the other hand they, they, they make it clear ish. yeah, i think they are, they account to use it. and after destruction of ukraine, there will be nothing any more. so i, i don't think they, this is
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a seriously belief in the possible victoria of ukraine. your grand will be will disappear during this conflict. so there is no such big danger because these artificial nazi creation as mother knew sooner or later will cease to exist. there will be no, you're ok, no, no problem, no nazi. so they are created that as exactly as the they have used isis, islamic state, or islamic fundamentalism. having nothing to do with, with wally as of radical islam. the west cynically has used cars, used a guide and radical islam to deck for soviet or socialist, a decrepit those regimes islamic world. so the, some, something like that we have in the ukraine now they have created artificial nazi
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paradise in order to destroy it. and now we're talking about the west. there are not only same statements like defeats and russia or women over russia. there are they have forecast saying that russia will not only be defeated, but it will also fall apart. that will collapse and will break apart into several republics. for example, we had george friedman who's the head of the stratford geopolitical intelligence platform. he is the one of those people who is coming out with statements like this, saying that russia will be defeated, no doubt about that. and also. busy able to break up into republics, why is russia breaking up into republics in particular, beneficial to them? i think that is completely logic from their part because if russia will stay, ah, united, if russia will stay independent and sovereign. if russia when russia increases, ah more,
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it's independence after their victory in ukraine. that war old will be not ruled by the west. so that is the independent, russia with such grow worse off, but to, to consciousness during could put in stime. it is the real obstacle to create the global world on the control of the west. how do you see this plan out in the long run? because right now i feel like we're sort of at a standstill. ah, because no one seems to want to negotiate russia. a seems willing to negotiate with c from i ukraine side. ah, that the west is encouraging now, talks and more, more supplies of weapons to make sure that they're equal with russia. i don't even know if that's even possible. so how do we get out of the standstill if the west continued to arm kiev, and russia? obviously doesn't bag down. how do we come out of this?
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i think of 1st of all or in the present situation, the piece stock. i impossible. i'm possible for all all sides because we didn't liberated her fool territories of our for new subjects. and before this fool liberation, we could not, we could not stop peace stalk based on our condition. so the keefe, seeing our, his edition, and her understanding a kind of difference between the image of invincible roger and our real a real state as well sir thinks that it kind of no, ma'am, the change of the balance is possible with such huge aid and help rav rav from the west, military and political intelligence and structural are held from the
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wes, can a skis on the suggests or presumes can change their balance and to help them to liberate what they think are territories of ukraine, including crimea. so, and in that situation, nobody stopped to start sir, the stalk and their west. the west is interested in continued, can fueling the conflict. so because they see erosion failures, they could be for my more and more arms and weapon that reference store ukraine in order little problem to prolong that. so every body isn't in position. nobody's in position to do starts or bas stalks, or i think, oh, the corporation that it, some side is ready to be stuck in present conditions is purely warts. so we
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could not, nobody is ready to do. auto based off bis a bis, stalks, can stop after some, ah, serious changes it when this still was still still stamp. seizes so, and there will be a kind of change of balance to one or other site. ah, after that it is possible, but the west says, well, if we accept this, if we allow russia sort of, if we give them an answer, we'll take a mile. so if we allow this to happen now than any contrib will think, well, we can go into any territory and change the course of all the countries teach her there. that's how they explain it. so in that case, will they ever accept any scenario where russia wins in any sort of way, even though as you said, a pains rush as the enemy, which is something that they need?
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i think that are the only only of material material. resources that good are use to prevent are still do or that it is use of nuclear weapon. but they could use nuclear rep up the west could use nuclear weapon in the the, the when sedation will be critical for them. but to lead to russia, to re install e, it's gone through all the tours that during the same juris ruhr, already other influence over azure without or us recreating some existential threat. i don't show edge for the west, it is not to move there. the final final situation, they will be not or blige to fight for ukraine because losing ukraine. they don't lose it either. they don't lose anything. right now we're waiting for something to change the mentality of people. we're waiting for something to change on the ground
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. we're waiting for something to change politically speaking to shift the conversation one way or another, as we said to come out of the standstill, we're waiting for something big i assume to make both sides act and do something to change. in the meantime, though, russia is seeking new partnerships because of the west. it, of course, i is trying to cut off russia from the world, but the world is much bigger than just there are the united states in europe, of course. and we're seeing russia form partnerships with other countries. we know that it said looking into the global south, it's looking into africa as a continents and i do in partnerships with various countries. busy there how do you see this, these new friendship saw that ross is forming now? just a full as it, that's a majority of humanity. ah, is some call on our, on our site, some co looks openly,
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not fully now, but everybody will have some positive positive results if that world will be multiple or so. russia, russian rectory in ukraine min immediately, multi polarity multiple out at the mince, emitted not only the achievement on full scale sovereignty, joe political so into, for us, but automatically, for china, that is already already other poll 3rd bull. and we will, we'll have immediately after our victory, 3 pull 3 polar world already meet. am there will india that is for all, all musts mer, eddie force poll because india is a great space. a big civilization and huge counter was usually ma graphy,
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huge potential in economy and not participating. neither on the side. they'll do s lower on our side, india. good gain extremely or many, many positive results in the multiple or world not necessary. ah, being on the side of china, or, or the west by the multiplicity or bands emitted live mainly possibility over the alliances of over the rearrangements. all of the balance of power in the regional scale, islamic world, all the islamic people leaving the multi polar world, world court styled to defend seriously they, they, it, religious id to the end. death is impossible under a global global dominance. all the eligibility blasted out technological technol, century technocratic, west or western, had gemini, is incompatible with his lamb. so islam, finally, after our week to re,
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will become the real player on the global scale, the not regional divide it and manipulated by the west. saw all the reasons for all most lives in the world to support a ration richter it be got it because it will be they are victory immediately. the same for all, for the same is true for i lettered america, and the same is true for africa, but i don't think that they could seriously ah, help us ah, meantime before we or we can get this victory. so everybody really use that resolves our objective results on the richter it, but nobody will help us in the critical way. so it is very, very, very particular is at asian, we should win ourselves and only winning more lank
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on oh ah, our own powers. the other will be on our side. we in this war we are fighting as well for the support of the other. we think that the united states or the last war ever allow them to be and mold, tie, poll a world ever, or will it just puts hand to allow it in the beginning, as he said, of in the, in the 3 scenarios he laid out a russia window in every single one, but in one of the scenarios the last, when's because it has an enemy, it has an enemy to fight and always needs an enemy, but will not allow it even temporarily. i think that all the theoretical way ah, that was already accepted. why people lack of semo. huntington, the conflict on civil as of civilizations is waste as a theory,
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as the concept is based on recognition. all these independent sovereign great spaces of civilization. so they, theoretically they, the west is repair. it's as alternative to these contamination of globalization ah, few nipple oddity. and then to the history there is a, the line over there. specialists in international relations that's already of deals are wis of such in the, in the, in the veto bowl and the writable development, all for the room of change old ah, global architecture. and on the, on the other side, we had an real example of the acceptance of multiple, edited by president of united states in the gaze over a donald trump. donald trump head my, think it gates multiple oddity. and he was ridiculous against globalism and global
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liberal agenda. oh, there biden and democrat, so the half of united states is already prepared to accept a multiple or to because you can clearly in easily imagine the greatness of the united states over the west, the prosperity of the west, today's own, their own culture. and they are out to acknowledge a goal development, which is either a pulse and they are quote, as a buchanan abuse only has said america, united states has won the world but has lost the itself yourself. so it is or, or we can, it could to put this phrase otherwise. so america could now when itself and lead the world l. a law. and of course i cannot help but
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mention the tragic tragic law self by your own daughter in all this. oh, well for us, deepest and sincerest condolences seal, and we sympathize sal lydia pain. ah, so victory in this case for you in particular as something i would imagine, that personnel and head home you know, i have no to match a criminal, no sentiment of revenge for me. there were a wrench will not men, victor? absolutely. so i could not blame the enemy because if this enemy, at this a little bit it was with her deep door. it is difficult to accept the killing coffin, the innocence, innocent daughter,
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innocent girl, not participating in the military conflict, not fine. then secrets not being convulsed in that not participating in the full scale state propaganda. she just expressed you around her own region. had this kind of injustice i. i feel it as a just, but i don't, i don't have any sentiment and feeling of revenge because i understand that in this war very, i killing each other. we are the same people. we are russians and they to allows house notes and sounds, and we are losing our, our friends, losing our, our friends there. and, but they have their losses as well. and i could not think that, for example, killing many people over the enemy could compensate it that last not
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a lot at all. it makes the pain more more painful, i would say, but i think the victory is other think. so i think that victory is personal for myself, not because of the idea, but because of my people, because i'm part of the, the i'm part of my people. i and my family and my daughter and my son and my granddaughter, and grand a newly born in the grounds and my wife and all of us. we have bought a fresh and people and we could not super 8 our so our destiny, our faith, our mission from our people. and we could not say all this personal and that is common. it is the same for us, and that is my, my, my life is still to the degraded to service, to my people, to my civilization,
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to my culture, to my state where russia rations, we deeply believe that we have some very special mission to accomplish the history in now, as long as i understand we are really near this critical and crucial moment and maybe because of deaths their bands so high and so deep. and so, so unbearable because we are closing where we are close, we are very, very new to this final moment of our history when we present tour da. com thinks something some, some huge spiritual, spiritual act. mr. dugan. thank you very much for his having a very strong man. thank you. second you've had speaks us ah,
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population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind in. i'm rick sanchez, and i'm here to plead with you. whatever you do, you do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that you won't get anywhere else work of it please. if you have the state department, the c, i, a weapons makers, multi $1000000000.00 corporations, choose your facts for you. go ahead. i change and whatever you do. don't watch my show, stay mainstream because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called direct impact, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way things ah, the western countries are very concerned. the china might be sending russia lisa weapons, as a way to help brush us military campaign in ukraine. personally,
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it's my just personal view. i'm very suspicious of that. i don't buy it contradicts to what i see. the basic logic of behavior puts on the phone, the chinese state. ah, in a while rush into the closing on the key city. a lot of the last examines the destruction that you claim to have closed during the retreat from other parts of done, but they blew up critical infrastructure to hinder the russian at the head of a put them out near the group that claimed that responsibility for debbie at clack, in a rush and go to reason says the incident was coordinated with the euclidean ministry

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