tv Interview RT March 4, 2023 1:30pm-2:00pm EST
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budgets are expected to be announced during the current policy making event in bank jane. we had from c g t and correspondent junction. he says, a focus on the advance will be new economic policies of the range of appointed official. to session is one of the most, or the most important political event in china. and what makes this year's event so special or different is that is the 1st year after trying to optimize this covert research. and so, no wonder, all eyes are on this event to see how china is going to reboot its economic vitality. how, what kind of gdp targeted the country going to set? will it be a more conservative one or will be inhibitions one and how is trying to go into those calls m r. crucially, the n p c this year will actually bode on the kinds of leadership lineup. ringback we are expected to see the new top officials, including premier vice premier and other economic international leadership roles
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including market regulators. and we're not only during the rep of the 2 sessions. there will be the new, previous 1st time hosting hundreds of journalists local for immediate journalist. and that will be the 1st chance for a drink to ask questions directly to the new premier. and the appointment of all of these top officials will actually give a good, very good indication of where the country's policies in development tragic true, will go in the coming years. all the latest news updates. don't forget check our website r t dot com will the back in 30 minutes with more of the latest. ah ah ah
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with when it is a sort of with the law school or b only for, for with us. you know, we do, mom was gonna order this last will soon. mclaughlin. yeah. cuz i thought that was good enough. i just wonder, was it a little record what, what symbol is worth for that? you will do it all goes, it goes with the law. all a good you do by the me mr. do again. thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy schedule. sure. to talk to us 1st like to start by seeing the evaluation basically where we are at now with the special
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military operation. its been a year. what's your assessments? well, we out now, how are things going? i think that's and this especial military operation. that's now is something like beak real and full scale war. so it started as a special military operation. now we've good enough deny that we're doing with the war and this war. this conflict has different layers. i think debt on the 1st level. we have now the grow. when can this thing d over the conflict of civilizations? precisely as samuel huntington has put it years before and we see how incompatible,
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ah, between each other ah, those civilizations russian christian orthodox, traditional, much more traditional ah, civilization with hey, we inclination to the social justice as a heritage of the soviet time and base all the dream, although eternal greatness of russia or non hint and modern western global liberal democracy pretending to be unique for all of all organizations of society, of politics, of economy. and that's liberal globalism is other civilization, these, this civilization global western civilization pretend. and after the fall of the soviet union to become unique, while the only one that made ideal fukuyama was whom i have chance stole to
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speak to discuss made idea fukuyama shared, i think, by present administration of biden, that after the fall of the soviet union, there there, there come the end of the history and the history of the history means that western post, modern, liberal, global, or, or there should be imposed on everybody or should be accepted by the people universally. and is regarded as unique system of values of rules. and so on and so on. so russia now, is it gone? raked a gave this pretension over their western modern global, a liberal civilization to beat unique. russia insists. no, you are wrong. we are our civilization with dawn, share your values. we deny universal meaning off
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your rules and we are going to establish multiple or world order with the russia independent fall totally, totally free from your influence. but as i say about the west moral compass, they're, they're constantly preaching the world about democracy, about human rights. and here they are basically supporting neo nazis that was seen in key as regime. how do they justify that to their own people? first of all, they try to, to high that for because we could not find 80 any hint or this, these growing huge movement off. and that's if he cation of ukrainian mines. and that is that reality. but the west sir on gui denies that. so when a bernard olivia, one of the, of the main main room defenders, all the liberal democracy on the global scale is meeting with or crana
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nazis saying there are no, they are not nuts is but they have. so i stick as late as leaves. and so on, so they try to hide, they try to, to, to, to hide it this fact. but why are such contradiction? where are the moral norms? because i think the west, as long as i understand the west thinks are in such manner. no, we could not, ah, by other way to create artificial nationalism in ukraine and to, to push you grandest of white russians because they are not a, ah, already they will be not rated. it would not be ready to fight for liberal wayllace because they they dont dont dont mean any think 4 or present days you credit or maybe for some cd key will of population. but in general,
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for these traditional society, verbal relish can not be that the main, the main goal to defend. so the need some think other and that muster radical form to 2 or more to create this artificial. so you, the consciousness is nationalist or radical formal and nationalism who of the ukrainian russia for big fascism and that is used by liberals, by global, at global liberals. because in their territories, they strictly prohibit at any hint on patriotism. and they destroy any kind of nationalism or, or patriotism in their territories. but in you gram, ah, the other hand they, they, they make it flourish. yeah, i think they are, they account to use it. and after the destruction of ukraine,
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there will be nothing any more. so i don't think they this is a seriously belief in the possible victory of ukraine. your grand will been, will disappear during this conflict. so there is no such big danger because of this artificial nazi creation as modern you can do a sooner or later or will cease to exist. there will be no ukraine, no, no problem, no nazi. so they are created that as exactly as the they have used or isis or slamming state or moslem mc fundamentalism. having nothing to do his wrists values of radical islam that west cynically has used, has used a guide and radical islam to at deck. but or soviet or socialist, a decrepit those regimes in this law, mac world. so the some think leg that we have in you can now they have created
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artificial nazi paradise in order to destroy that. and now we're talking about the was, there are not only same statements like defeats and russia or women over russia. there are, they have forecast saying that russia will not only be defeated, but it will also fall apart. that will collapse and will break apart into several republics. for example, we had george friedman who's the head of the stratford geopolitical intelligence platform. he is one of those people who is coming out with statements like this, saying that russia will be defeated, no doubt about that. and also able to break up into republics. why is russia breaking up into republics in particular, beneficial to them? i think that is completely logic from their part because if russia will stay, ah, united, if russia will stay independent and sovereign. if russia, when russia increases, ah more,
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it's independence after their victory in ukraine. that world will be not ruled by the west. so that is the independent. russia with such grow worse off, but your to consciousness during could put in stime. it is the real obstacle to create the global world under control of the west. how do you see this plan out in the long run? because right now i feel like we're sort of at a standstill. ah, because no one seems to want to negotiate russia, as seems willing to negotiate receive from i ukraine side. ah, that the west is encouraging now, talks and more, more supplies of weapons to make sure that they are equal with russia. i don't even know if that's even possible. so how do we get out of the standstill if the west continued to arm kiev, and russia obviously doesn't bag down. how do we come out of this?
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i think of just a full or in the present situation that this dog, i'm possible, i'm possible for all all sides because we didn't liberated her fool territories of our for new subjects. and before this fool liberation, we could not. we could not stop the stalk based on our condition. so the keefe, seeing our hesitation and her understanding a kind of difference between the image of invincible roger and our real a real state as well sir thinks that it kind over. no, ma'am, the change of the balance is possible with such huge aid and help rove road from the west,
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military and political intelligence and structural are called from the wes. can a skis on the suggests or presumes can change their balance and to help them to liberate what they think are territories of ukraine including crimea. so and in that situation, nobody stopped to start, sir, be stock and their west. the west is interested in continuing. can fueling the conflict so because they see erosion failures they could do for might more and more arms and weapon that reference store ukraine in order little problem to prolong that. so every body isn't in position. nobody is in a position to do starts, or bas stalks, or i think, oh, the corporation that it some side is ready to be stuck in present conditions is
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purely warts. so we could not, nobody is ready to do auto based off base. a bis stalks can stop after some, ah, serious changes it when this still was still still stamp. seizes so, and there will be a kind of change of balance to one or other side. ah, after that, it is possible. but the west says, well, if we accept this, if we allow russia sort of, if we give them an answer, they'll take a mile. so if we allow this to happen now than any contrib will think, well, we can go into any territory and change the course of the concierge teacher there. that's how they explain it. so in that case, will they ever accept any scenario where russia wins in any sort of way, even though as you said, it pains, rush as the enemy,
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which is something that they need? i think that are the only only of material material. resources that good are use to prevent are still do or that it is use of nuclear weapon. but they could use nuclear rep up the west could use nuclear weapon in the the, the when sedation will be critical for them. but to lead to russia, to re install e, it's gone through all the tours that during the same juris ruhr, already other influence over azure without or us recreating some existential threat. owned show edge for the west. it is not will not be there though. final final situation, they will be not all blige to fight for ukraine because losing ukraine. they don't lose it either. they don't lose any think right now we're waiting for something to change the mentality of people. we're waiting for something to change on the ground
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. we're waiting for something to change politically speaking to shift the conversation one way or another, as we said to come out of the standstill, we're waiting for something big i assume to make both sides act and do something to change. in the meantime, though, russia is seeking new partnerships because of the west. it, of course, i is trying to cut off russia from the world, but the world is much bigger than just there are the united states in europe, of course. and we're seeing russia form partnerships with other countries. we know that it said looking into the global south, it's looking into africa as a continent, and i do in partnerships with various countries there. how do you see this? these new friendship saw that rush is forming. now, 1st of all, i think that's a majority of humanity. ah, is some call on our, on our site some co, not openly,
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not fully now, but everybody will have some positive positive results if that world will be multi polar. so russia, russian rectory in ukraine min immediately, multi polarity multiple out at the mince, emitted not only the achievement on full scale, c pole, 3 polar world already mate. am there will india that is for all, all musts meridian force poll because india is a great space. a big civilization and huge counter was huge demography, huge potential in economy and not participating. neither on the side though s lower on our side, india could gain extremely or many,
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many positive results in the multiple or world not necessary, ah, being on the side of china, or, or the west, by the multiplicity. it bands immediately, mainly possibility over the alliances of over rearrangements. all of the balance of power and the regional scale, islamic world, all the islamic people leaving the multi buller world. world court start to defend seriously they, they, it, religious identity and that is impossible under a global global dominance of the eligibility plaza. ah, technological technol, century technocratic wester of western head gemini, is incompatible with his lamb. so slum, finally, after our week to re will become the real player on the global scale, the not regional divided and manipulated by the with saw all the reasons for
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all, most lives in the world to support are awesome. richter it be got it because it will be they are victory immediately the same for all, for the same is true for i let it america and the same is true for africa, but i don't think that they could seriously ah, help us. ah, meantime, before we are, we can get this victory. so everybody really use the results, our objective results on the richter it but nobody will help us in the critical way. so that is very, very, very particular. is it ation we should or in ourselves? and only we mean more length on. oh ah, our own powers. the other will be on our side. we in this war,
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we are fighting as well for the support of the other. we think that the united states or the last will ever allow there to be and moltz. hi, poll a world ever or will it just puts hand to allow it in the beginning, as you said, of in the, in the 3 scenarios he laid out of russia, winds and every single one. but in one of the scenarios, the less when's because it has an enemy, it has an enemy to fight in the always needs an enemy, but will not allow it even temporarily. i think that all the theoretical way ah, that was already accepted by people. lack of semo huntington, the conflict on civil as of civilizations is waste as a theory, as the concept is based on recognition. all these independent sovereign, great spaces of civilization. so they, theoretically they, the west is prepare. it's as alternative to discontinue asian old globalization. ah,
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for you and nipple oddity, and then to the history, there is a, the line over there. specialists in international relations that's already a deuce or wis of such in the, in the, in the veto and irritable development. all for the room of change, old ah, global architecture. and on the, on the other side, we had an real example of the acceptance of multiple, edited by president of united states in the gaze over a donald trump. donald trump head my think it guides multiple oddity and he was already killed against globalism and global liberal agenda. oh, there biden and democrat. so the half of united states is already
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prepared to accept a multi validity because you can clearly in easily imagine the greatness of the united state of the west, the prosperity of the west, today's own, their own culture and their out technological development with other poles and they could, as buchanan has said, america, the united states has won the world but has lost itself herself. so if we can, it could put this phrase otherwise. so america could now when itself and lead the world law. and of course i cannot help, but mention the tragic tragic loss of your own daughter in all this
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for the deepest and sincerest condolences you sympathize with your pain. so victory in this case for you in particular as something i would imagine that's personal and has home you know, i have no ranch. i couldn't no, no sentiment of revenge for me. ranch will not mean victor. absolutely. so i could not blame the enemy because it is enemy at this a little bit. it's a bit deep though it is difficult to accept the killing coffin, the innocence, innocence, daughter, innocent girl, not participating in the military conflict, not financing. it's not being involved in the, not participating in the full scale state propaganda. she just expressed your
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crown region had this kind of injustice. i feel it has just but i, i don't, i don't have any sentiment and feeling of revenge because i understand that. and this were killing each other. we are the same people, we are russians and they kill us house and sounds. and we are living color, our friends, losing our friends there. and, but they have their losses as well. and i could not think that, for example, killing many people of the enemy could compensate it that, that last not a lot at all. it makes the pain more more painful, i would say. but i think the victorious other think. so. i think that victory is
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personal for myself, not because of diarrhea, but because of my people because i'm part of that. if i'm part of my people, i and my family and my daughter and my son and my granddaughter and grand a newly born the grounds. and my wife and all of us, we have bought a fresh and people and we could not super 8 our so our destiny, our faith, our mission from our people. and we could not say all this personal and that is common. it is the same for us, and that is my, my, my life is still dedicated to service, to my people, the my civilization, to my culture, to my state where russia rations were deeply believe that we have some very special mission to accomplish the history in now as long as i understand we are really near
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this critical and crucial moment, and maybe because of the deaths their bands so high and so deep. and so so unbearable because we are closing where we are. clos, we are very, very near to this final moment of our history when we presumed to contain some, some huge spiritual, spiritual act. mr. dugan. thank you very much for your time. you're very strong and thank you, taking your time speak the the
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