tv Interview RT March 4, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm EST
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the who's the mr. do again. thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy schedule. sure. to talk to us 1st like to start by seeing the evaluation basically where we are at now with the special military operation. it's been a year. what's your assessment? where are we at now? how are things going? i think that's and this special military operation that now is something like beak real and full scale war. so it started as a special military operation. now with good not deny that we're doing with the war
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and this war, this gothic chris, different layers. i think debt a on the 1st level. ah, we have now the grow when can this thing div over the conflict of civilizations? precisely as semo huntington has put it ah, some years before. and we see how incompatible, ah, between each other ah, those civilizations ration christian orthodox, traditional, much more traditional ah, civilization with hey, we inclination to the social justice as a heritage of the soviet time and base all the dream, although eternal greatness of russia online. hence,
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and modern western global liberal democracy pretending to be unique for all, all organization of society, of politics, of economy. and that's liberal globalism is other civilization, these, this civilization global western civilization pretend. and after the fall of the soviet union to become unique. while the only one that made ideal fukuyama was whom i have chance stole to speak to discuss a main idea fukuyama shared, i think, by present administration of biden, that after the fall of the soviet union there, there, there come the end of the history and the history of the history means that western boss to modern liberal global order should be imposed on
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everybody or should be accepted by the people universally, and is regarded as unique system of values of rules and so on and so on. so russia now, is it conflict a gave this pretension over the western modern global, a liberal civilization to beat unique. russia insists, no, you are wrong. we are other civilization with don't share your values. we deny a universal meaning off your rules and we are going to establish multi polar world. although wister, russia independent fall totally, totally free from your influence. but as i say about the west moral compass, they're, they're constantly preaching the world about democracy, about human rights. and here they are basically supporting neo nazis that was seen in key as regime. how do they justify that to their own people?
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first of all, they tried to to high that for because we could not find 80 any hint, all these, these growing huge movement movement off. and that's if he cation of ukrainian minds. and that is that reality. but the west ser angeli denies that. so when a bernard and he levy one of the, of the main main room defenders all their liberal democracy on the global scale is meeting with a crana. nazis saying there are no, they are not nazis, but they have. so i stay gas or lay a sleeves and so on so that they try to hide, they try to, to, to, to hide this fact. but why such contradiction? where are the moral norms? because i think the west,
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as long as i understand the west thinks are in such manner. no, we could not, ah, by other way to create artificial nationalism in ukraine and to, to push you grandest of white russians. because they are not a ah already they will be not rated. it would not be ready to fight for liberal wayllace because they they dont don don't mean any think for oh, present days you cry and or some maybe for some c t t will of both population. but in general, for these traditional society, verbal relish can not be that the main, the main goal to defend. so the need some think either and the most a radical form to 2 or more to create this artificial. so you, the consciousness is nationalist or radical formal and nationalism who of the
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ukrainian russia for big fascism and that is used by liberals, by global, at global liberals. because in their territories, they strictly prohibit any hint on patriotism. and they destroy any kind of nationalism of patriotism in their territories. but in you gram ah, the other hand they, they, they make it clear ish, i think they are, they account to use it. and after destruction of ukraine there will be nothing any more. so i don't think they, this is a seriously belief in the possible victory of ukraine. you grand will be a little disappear during this conflict. so there is no such big danger because this artificial nazi creation as mug new kind sooner or later will cease to exist. there will be no, you're okay, no, no problem,
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no nazi. so they created that as exactly as the they have used isis, atlantic state or islamic fundamentalism having nothing to do with, with values of radical islam that west cynically has used. cars used a guy and radical islam to back for soviet or socialist, a decrepit those regimes islamic world. so the some, something like that we have in nuclear and now they have created artificial nazi paradise in order to destroy that. and now we're talking about the west. there are not only same statements like defeats and russia or women over russia. there are they have forecast saying that russia will not only be defeated, but it will also fall apart. that will collapse and will break apart into several republics. for example,
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we had george friedman who's the head of the stratford geopolitical intelligence platform. he's the one of those people who is coming out with statements like this, saying that russia will be defeated, no doubt about that. and also able to break up into republics. why is russia breaking up into republics in particular, beneficial to them? i think that is completely logic from their pilot, because if russia will stay, ah, united, if russia will stay independent and sovereign. if russia, when russia increases, ah more, its independence after the victory in ukraine, that world will be not ruled by the west. so that is the independent, russia with sash grow worse off but to, to consciousness during capuchin stime. it is the real obstacle to create the global world under control of the west. how do you see this plan out in the long
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run? because right now i feel like we're sort of at a standstill. ah, because no one seems to want to negotiate russia. i seems willing to negotiate with see from i ukraine side that the west is encouraging now talks and more, more supplies of weapons to make sure that they're equal with russia. i don't even know if that's even possible. so how do we get out of the standstill? if the west continued to arm kiev, and russia obviously doesn't bag down, how do we come out of this? i think of 1st of all, in the present situation, the piece stalk, i'm possible, i'm possible for all all sides because we didn't liberated her fool territories of our for new subjects. and before this full liberation, we could not re, could not stop be stalk based on our condition. so the
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key if seeing our his station and her understanding a kind of difference between the image of invincible roger and our real a real a state as well. sir thinks that it kind over. no, ma'am, the change of the ballads is possible with such huge aid and help rove row from the west, military and political intelligence and structural are held from the wes. can a skis on the suggests or presumes can change their balance and to help them to liberate what they think are territories of your grand including crimea. so and in that situation, nobody stopped to start sir,
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be stock and their west. the west is interested in continuing, can fueling the conflict. so because they see erosion failures they could give for my more and more arms and weapon that wrap a stool. you cried in order for them to prolong that. so every body isn't in position. nobody is in a position to do starts or bas store. so i think, oh, the corporation that some side is ready to be stuck in present conditions is purely warts. so we could not, nobody is ready to do. auto based off bis a biz stalks can stop after some, ah, serious changes in when this still was still still stamp. seizes so, and there will be a kind of change of balance to one or other side. ah,
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after that, it is possible. but the west says, well, if we accept this, if we allow russia sort of, if we give them an answer, i will take a mile. so if we allow this to happen now than any country will think, well, we can go into any territory and change the course of the concierge teacher there. that's how they explain it. so in that case, will they ever accept any scenario where russia wins in any sort of way, even though as you said, it pains, rush as the enemy, which is something that they need? i think that are the only only of material material. resources that good are use to prevent are still do or that it is use of nuclear weapon. but they could use nuclear repre the west could use nuclear weapon in the the, the one situation will be critical for them. but to lead to russia,
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to re install e, it's gone through all the tours that during the same juris ruhr, already other influence of russia without russia creating some existential threat. owns show edge for the west. it is not to move there. the final final situation, they will be not or blige to fight for ukraine because losing ukraine. they don't lose it either. they don't lose anything. right now we're waiting for something to change the mentality of people. we're waiting for something to change on the ground . we're waiting for something to change politically speaking to shift the conversation one way or another, as we said to come out of the standstill, we're waiting for something big i assume to make both sides act and do something to change. in the meantime, though, russia is seeking new partnerships because of the west. it, of course, i is trying to cut off russia from the world,
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but the world is much bigger than just there are the united states in europe, of course. and we're seeing russia form partnerships with other countries. we know that it said looking into the global south, it's looking into africa as a continent and i do in partnerships with various countries. busy there, how do you see this, these new friendship saw that rush is forming now? just a full, i think that's a, the majority of humanity. ah, is some recall on our, on our site some co, not openly, not fully now, but everybody will have some positive positive results if that world will be multiple or so. russia, russian rectory in ukraine min immediately, multi polarity multiple out at the mince, emitted not only the achievement on full scale sovereignty geopolitical so into,
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for us, but automatically, for china, that is already already other poll, 3rd bull. and we will, we'll have immediately after our a victory. 3 poll, 3 polar world already meet. am there will india that is for all, all musts mer, eddie force poll because india is a great space. big socialization and huge counter was huge demography, huge potential in economy and not participating. neither on the side. they'll do s lower on our side, india. good gain extremely now many, many positive results in the multiple or world not necessary. ah, being on the side of china or, or the west, by the multiplicity,
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it been submitted late, mainly, possibility over the alliances of over the rearrangements. all of the balance of power in the regional scale, islamic world, all the islamic people leaving in the multi buller world. world court start to defend seriously they, they, it, religious i to the end. death is impossible under a global global dominance. all the eligibility blast, ah, technological technol, centric technocratic west or western, had gemini, is incompatible with his lamb. so islam, finally, after our week to re, will become the real player on the global scale, the not regional divide it and manipulated by to with saw all the reasons for all, most lives in the world to support are awesome. richter it be got it because it will be they are victory immediately. the same for all, for the same is true for
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a lettered america, and the same is true for africa, but i don't think that they could seriously ah, help us ah, meantime before we or we can get this victory. so everybody really use the results or objective results all the rectory, but nobody will help us in the critical way. so it is very, very, very particular is at asian, we should win ourselves and only winning more lank on oh ah, our own powers, the other will build our side. we in this war we are fighting as well for the support of the other. we think that the united states or the last war ever allow
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there had to be and molds high pole a world ever, or will let just pretend to allow it in the beginning, as you said, of in the, in the 3 scenarios he laid out of russia wins in every single one. but in one of the scenarios the last, when's because it has an enemy, it has an enemy to fight in the always needs an enemy, but will not allow it even temporarily. i think that all the theoretical way ah, that was already accepted by people lack of semo. huntington, the conflict on civil as of civilizations is waste as a theory, as the concept is based on recognition. all these independent sovereign great spaces of civilization. so they, theoretically they, the west is prepare. it's as alternative to these contamination of globalization ah, for you nipple oddity. and then to the history, there is a,
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the line over the specialists and international relations that's already of deals are wis of such in the, in the, in the veto bowl and the writable development. all for the room of change old ah, global architecture. and on the, on the other sides, we had an real example of the acceptance of multiple, edited by president of united states in the gaze over a donald trump. donald trump heb my think it gates multiple oddity. and he was ridiculous against globalism and global liberal agenda. oh, there biden and democrat, so the half of united states is already prepared to accept a multiple or to because you can clearly in easily imagine the greatness of the
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united states of the west, the prosperity of the west, today's own, their own culture and their out technological development with other poles and they could as buchanan has said, that america, united states has gone the world, but has lost itself yourself. so it is a way it could put this praise otherwise. so america could now when itself and lead the world law. and of course i cannot help but mention the tragic tragic loss of your own daughter. in all this, we are for the deepest and sincerest condolences to synthesize with your pain. so victory in this case for you in particular as something i would
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imagine that personal and has home you know, i have more lynch. i could not know sentiment of revenge for me that the wench will not mean victor. absolutely. so i could not blame the enemy because it is enemy at this a little bit. it is bit deep, though it is difficult to accept the killing of innocence. innocent daughter, innocent girl, not participating in the military conflict, not financing its not being involved in the not participating in live full scale state propaganda. she just expressed your alum, crown region had this kind of injustice i. i could feel it as
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a just, but i, i don't, i don't have any sentiment and feeling of revenge because i understand that. and this, we're killing each other. we out the same people. we are russians and they kill house house, daughter and sans and we are living color, our friends, losing color, our friends there. and, but they have their losses as well. and i could not think that, for example, killing many people of the any meet could compensate it. that the last, not a lot the told the, the, it makes the pain more more painful, i would say. but i think the victory is other think. so i think that victory is personal for myself, not because diarrhea, but because of my people because i'm part of the, the,
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i'm part of my people. i and my family and my daughter and my son and my granddaughter and grand a newly born in the grounds. and my wife and all of us, we have bought fresh and people and we could not super 8 our so our destiny, our faith, our mission from our people. and we could not say all this personal and that is common. it is the same for us and that is my, my, my life is started the degraded to service, to my people, to my civilization, to my culture, to my state where russia rations were deeply believe that we have some very special mission to accomplish the history in now, as long as i understand we are really near this critical and crucial moment and maybe because of deaths their bands so high and so deep. and
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so so unbearable because we are closing where we are close. we are very, very new to this final moment of our history when we presumed to go come fix some, some, some huge spiritual, spiritual act aesthetic. and thank you very much for having a very strong line. thank here. second we'll transfer tough. mm hm. ah,
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the claims of the king of the belgians leopold the 2nd to the congo were finally authorized by the leading european countries in 18. 85. in the very heart of the african continent. a state under the rule of the belgian monarch was declared since the beginning, the congo free state was total mayhem for the local population and functioned as a universal concentration camp. the majority of the population, including women and children, were forced to work on the rubber plantations. those who failed to fulfill their quota were beaten and mutilated. to keep the congolese people under control, the king set up the so called for spook leak, which were punitive detachments that cast terror on the captured country and its inhabitants. fearing that their subordinates would simply waste bullets hunting for wild animals, the officers demanded that the soldiers gave an answer for every bullet use. and as
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proof presented a chop hand of an african. it was not uncommon when trying to justify the use of the ammunition, the colonist amputated the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide in only 20 years. the policy, the of the belgians lead to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocaust. that genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. blue children at st in residential school, suffered nightmarish levels of abuse, torture and child rape. and yet the office of the attorney general suppressed thousands of pages of police and evidence that identified the perpetrators in the school. i was electrocuted twice. i was only 7 years or just
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too high for me. so for me to put me in the chair by the law warriors to run over here to abuse somebody and run here and she kept solution with himself. some of them are my relative, didn't make it, jackie, themselves, to death, over doses. but yeah, what it made me, it made me the person i am today because i'm afraid i don't give up any investigations were too often handled differently because the deceased was indigenous. so many of the worst criminals got away the bishop's got away. the ones who done most of the damage never got charged the tight prometheus believed in men and sided with m. o,
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he stole fire from the cruel gods and gave it to humanity. ah, the gods chained the titan to a rog, and a huge eagle devoured his liver every day. but the darkness when had wandered before, had already been dissipated by the bright flames they had obtained from him. for if we say we're strong, if we say we're brave, well we should be looking out for people that are less fortunate or that can't defend himself. oh, there are always people who think this way but it's only in hollywood movies in which the brave expose those in power and they are rewarded
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with fame, money, prestigious jobs, and respect. in reality, this is not the case in one way or another. prometheus is tragedy, almost always repeats itself in real life. oh, do i want to work or not? it's actually for even journalists that are supportive. they were given of options . either shut up and to give us the stories we want or go work somewhere else. in american journalist, george allison has been covering the events in don bass for more than 8 years in america, he worked in construction, but once he got to don bass, he will, i isd, he couldn't just watch from the sidelines. and i started writing about the war and
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done boss because i'd already heard plans for it, even before my dad was over. they were planning on having a part of some war and dumb. but we knew that the war with, from the start here, with the trade in government has been killing its own people and gone. boss faye is, it's amazing, a vicious, not being covered in, in western media and hasn't been covered for the last 8 years with johnny miller is a journalist from the u. k. of this strike here, perhaps the most important, he saw how the u. s. army destroyed countries in the east and now it's nato.
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