a miss and fleet with ah, to prevent an assassination of his journalist claim it was planned by the same ukraine. bryce bass, terra group, which killed civilians in the nation's bronze region. last week. moscow strikes care forces withdrawing from the city of buck moves, also known as our show mosque, which is almost completely surrounded by rushes. wagner forces and on career considers dropping a deal with us over buying f. 16 jets in favor of russian on chinese equivalent us after years of washington museums deals as a means to impose political ultimatums on to kia with

watching oxy international monies. peter scott, wherever you're joining us from. welcome to 30 minutes of news and analysis. i start on the front lines of the done yes, republic where russian troops have almost completely surrounded the key city of backwards also known as of char mosque. while the entrenched ukrainian garrison has reportedly been partially cut off and he's having trouble pulling his troops out of the combat zone and his from the latest drone footage from the battlefield. and he shows ukrainian armored vehicles pinned down and taken losses from russian artillery. according to some reports, many of kias, most experienced soldiers have been killed in action during the months long battle for almost over ukraine's american allies are now trying to downplay the significance of the russian advance. the fall of buffalo won't necessarily mean that the russians have changed the tide of this fight. i think it's more of a symbolic value than it is a strategic and operational was not discussed. these developments with our

correspondence. don courts are joining me here in the studio, as well as get some opinion from our expert to include micro maloof or fall pentagon senior security policy analyst. sonya abundant and dutch journalist who's been covering the conflicts in ukraine and andre thomas housing, who's a german attorney and professor of law. thank you very much for joining me. everyone. now, donna, stuff with you 1st because you're in the studio with me. now. this bottle for jonas or buttonwood has been raging on for around 7 months now with both sides, suffering reportedly heavy losses for it. why do you think the pentagon is now trying to dom played the significance of the russian gains in this city? well, of course, the pentagon now says it's not strategic, but it doesn't really make much sense for both sides to be putting so much effort, so much manpower into either holding or taking a city that was never of any real strategic importance. i mean, in the recent weeks,

the wagner private military company has done just that. they've essentially almost nearly encircled the ukranian troops that are still within the city who have found themselves in a blood bath just to maintain the defense of it. there on direct orders from ukrainian president vladimir lensky, who said these troops need to hold their ground and they need to fight down to the last man, but we have heard reports actually of descent within ukrainian ranks. apparently, the commander in chief of the ukrainian armed forces is saying that key should, at this point, just cut its losses and withdraw from the city. now if we go by what the mainstream media says, it might seem that these ukrainian held cities of strategic importance all the sudden stopping strategic once they're just about to switch hands. this is what we saw. the mainstream media say about solid are when it was just on the brink of being liberated by the russian forces in the den. yes, people's republic. and now that's what we're seeing them say about our trauma

ration forces. try to take the strategic town of back that the city itself is not that strategically important. what all earlier in the strategic town of back move, it is not strategically important. think could lead to the full of sloppy ends, can cram a toss because, well, the 2 most important cities in the dumbass there is little strategic value. um, it's not a military hub, is not a communications hub. like a result of with, you know, if you don't mind, bring you into the discussion, what is your take on how important this battle is for the city, for both sides? is it a strategic city? is it symbolic? and what do you make of washington's apparent newton? well, number one, thanks for having me. the. it can be significant strategically significant given it the access to the rest of dumbass. number 2, you got to keep in mind lloyd. austin oversaw the withdrawal of us troops out of

iraq back in 2011 and what crept in isis. so i don't really care that much for his strategic analysis. and number 3, it would take a lot of ukraine troops out of the fight. and i think that this is what they want to do now the other, the other concern is, what is the fact that the russian side probably doesn't have much ammunition and i understand that the ukrainians are also running really low. so the fact that that, that there's this kind of focus on the mood and the surrounding area does signify its significance, at least to the russians, and also to the ukrainian. so i would, i would really question lloyd austin's analysis micro maloof. i also want to ask you what your take is about this reported dissent within the ukrainian military

rank. so the commander in chief of the armed forces is saying that after all, the ukrainian military should cut its losses and leave while the lensky really wants these ukrainian troops to fight down to the last man. well maybe they have some kind of a strategic withdrawal issue that they want to pursue another area, possibly or are they psychologically trying to play on the, on the minds of the russians and also try to bolster the ukrainian, however, sick given the ukrainian losses. i don't think it said insignificant and just to put, i think would be a demoralizing factor for the ukrainians at this point. if they were just to get up and, and leave. and you look at the territory, that's there. that's significant territory. if the russians take it back over, so i, i think that this and given the fact that you take a lot of forces out of,

out of the fight, that, that to me is very, very important. now don't we, we've seen some images of backwards all are almost going to it's been absolutely devastated. now the you couldn't inside, they say that around $4000.00 civilians are still there, which is significantly less than the roughly $70000.00 or more people that were there before the start of the war. what can you tell us about the situation currently inside the city? well, that's exactly right. by all accounts, it's pretty clear that the majority of the civilian population has already been evacuated, but several 1000 civilians have still remained. and you gotta, you gotta ask yourself, why would they stay in a completely demolished city when they know that there's going to be serious military operations in the area. and according to what we've seen, actually, both in the, even the western media and the accounts of ukrainian soldiers. what we've seen is that a lot of people have stayed behind because they've awaited the arrival of russian troops that i often find a case of that moot. and in general,

the dumbass people confidently say or are thinking that they will wait for russia to come. because they are other pro ration position is the with one of ga, literally, yesterday, with so through a drone to local women with bags in a residential area approach the russian soldier. and they went with him towards russian control, territories, bullies, despite some people saying otherwise, many prefer to seek safety with the russians. those who has said in bark, mood, or waiting for assistance to go to russian control territory. the locals here have waited and waited for russians and refused to leave through ukrainian corridors. you knew you were sawyer, i'm going to bring you enough. if you don't mind, you've obviously covered this sir, this war and the region quite extensively. what's your take on why people have stayed in bargain with on indeed other cities across the, the battle danielle screw public when it was

put down because the people a waiting for the russians to come in, maybe there are people not go out because money or whatever they didn't know where to go to, but i think the majority of the people who stayed there are wasting directions to liberate the city. and this is where we saw before and other cities liberated before the russians. so you have my majority minority who will say on this that's, i think the whole point don't go back to you again. now obviously there was some big revelations today from russia's f. s b claim that defaulted a ukrainian attack on a russian businessman journalist constant, the mom, if you, if, can you bring some more details on the story, please? right, well, according to rushes, federal security services, it was the russian volunteer corps that was behind this assassination attempt on this journalist. this is

a ukrainian military detachment made up of russia neo nazis ultra nationalists who have were ideologically motivated to support the ukrainian military in this this conflict. this is the same organization that carried out an attack on the russian border region of brians, a terrorist attack. they opened, fired on civilians and killed and injured a number of people. unfortunately, this isn't the 1st time that we've seen. going back to this fascination attempt on the journalist, it's not the 1st time we've seen ukrainian forces. try to assassinate journalists that have nothing to do with military activities last year. daria duke and i was also killed by the ukrainian security services and rushes. foreign ministry spokeswoman maria's or harvey says that we're seeing a trends develop here. the silence of western regimes that are usually hyper active concerning any case of journals, discrimination after the attempted assassination of target channels had constantine,

my faith would mean their silent consent to such crimes. this would also indicate i del logical coach in coming from extremist actions of keeps bandits will andre thomas. howsoever, thank you for your patience. last but not least, but i'd like to, we're to heads up your expertise in terms of law and what's is your take on the legal status of such cases with these are, these are ukrainian such inside russian 30, do you think it should be condemned more more widely by the west. well, the, the law that should govern warfare is actually called humanitarian law. and it's been disrespected for, for about 30 years now and all the conflicts that we've seen. so some of my colleagues argue that said, practice has just invalidated them. what, what remains, of course, is the, the central attributes of a state. you have to have a central control over a definitive territory and a definitive population. and this is why it is so important for russia also to make

sure that it is able to, to protect and careful the population that have joined russia through the independent republics, which on all part of russia, this is really why these battles are sold, beaten, so procrastinated and, and so slow it cannot go on forever like this. unfortunately, we do not see a willingness on the side of the, of the countries that, that run to integrate ukraine into their sphere of influence. no reduction in sight of further weapons supplies and, and no rush, no, no rational approach to this the, the battle cry is whatever it takes and whatever it takes means by any means whatsoever, including illegal including assassinations including the killings of

prisoners, a war the, the treatment of prisoners of war, including staging atrocities were obviously not to have taken place. the, the entire propaganda machine is, is continuing as so i'm pessimistic. i don't foresee less cruelty and less bloodshed. well, what would you say is the end game for the last that as you say, is basically closing its eyes to these horrific acts? strangely, it reminds me of the rhetoric of the propaganda of another very famous loser. that was at all hitler at the end of the wall when standing ground fell with about $700000.00 last germans. he simply had, had his propaganda minister declare that it was a big loss for, for the soviet union because they had spent so much ammunition to secure this

battle. so they, these, these propaganda slogans become cruel and ridiculous. and unfortunately, we have people at the helm of it that, that have completely forgotten that the united nations charter has forbidden any wolf and no force should ever be used without the consent of the united nations security council. and that includes economic war and can make sanctions. and this was so decided for the united nations charter at the same time when the charter also said, certain nations should have an absolute lito, right? because nothing should ever be done against the will of those veto members, those veto nations. and the reason behind it was that this, that those were the countries that had nuclear weapons this, this was done to prevent a nuclear fall out. and there's a very wise saying that goes that a nuclear power can never lose

a wall. so we are tethering, we were playing the west is playing with very, very dangerous things. and it undermines the international order, the international rules based order. because the international rules are no use of force unless authorized by the un security council. while i'd like to stay on the subject of the west right now and i'd like to direct one question to you. sonya, obviously we've seen nato countries, basically giving a blank check for weapons deliveries to ukraine in this conflict. do you think that those actions that nato is taking makes the military alliance a party to the conflict? and i think so recently, i think when you look at the total, it's about $16000000000.00. what they have given now in, in, in military base is how they call it. and of course, they are people saying,

we partner, partner to conflict, be another direct conflict with russia. but i think in my opinion, if you give all these weapons to ukraine, you are part of the country where you are part of the war. and i think this war mode is going on for a long time already. because last year and 2022 in march. when military gratian started straight to a 2 or 3 weeks, people with this it's all trains are going to, poland already said it was just, you know, for military military, you heard something like that, but actually, there are plenty this war. and this is how i, it's a war they are planning, it's already actually in 2014 as we know what it means, raymond, which fails. of course, we know all about that, about merkle room, but actually what they said they were military ukraine since that time,

already. so i think they are part of award. they are waging on russia and they use the foxes in ukraine, their mercenary, ukrainian army. so it makes them complicit, it makes them at war. this is what i think what, what is what we are seeing right now? why in connection to this, this question, i just wanted to bring up something that the russian foreign ministry recently put out that these western supplied weapons are actually being used physically to kill people in the dynamics, people's republic, which is recognized by russia to be russian territory do you have any comments in regards to the statement? yes, you're, i mean i was many phone internet. and last time i was there, you are ready to have killing people, the market. i residential buildings. and after the 20th of september, it became a russian territory through the referendum democratically killing russians. now,

a day with our killing russians with america, or even when you are being one of them. yes, he's right. and that they are completed and yet they are killing russians. and i think another big thing is century germany, you know, they have lost the 2nd war, but they killed around 26000000 russians. so now they are doing it again. and i think counsellor schultz, you'd be very ashamed of him. and actually the whole government, or maybe the whole people driven people, they should be ashamed. they began waging a war on russia and it's very terrible. right? well, i guess, you know, one of the gray areas here with these weapons being used to kill people in the done yet, the people's republic that the westward claim is. obviously, they don't recognize this as part of russia, but i'd like to direct a similar question to you, mr. maloof. because these,

we've heard that these weapons supplied by nato have actually been used to kill people. now, in be honest, in a russian region that's recognized by the entire world as being russian, what do you have to say about that? well, this is the problem with given the advanced weapons, isn't it? the never inevitably, ukraine is going to want to take this fight to moscow and they've said so, and that's what i'm concerned about. and that's why you want to keep the jets out of their hands. otherwise, you're going to have an unlimited war. begin not have on your hands, and it's just going to spread to other regions. we are already seeing that just as united states and nato is providing weapons to ukraine. now we have iran and possibly china. i'm not saying they've done anything yet, but there's talk of china, possibly bringing in weapons. so you're seeing a war by proxy. and this is what, what of course,

the un doesn't cover this war by proxy. it doesn't cover terrorism either. but we're seeing this, this evolved into a kind of warfare that we have not seen before, and it's going to and it's only going to spread. and now this could even spread to other regions for other battles and be a cast, have a cascading effect in which israel could attack, take the opportunity to attack iran using the u. s. assistance. so this thing could just get totally out of hand, very, very rapidly. and i think that we're going to see this, we've got to win a very, very tense area right now. and i think that we talk not lightly about nuclear weapons use man. that's that scares that scares me to death. to, to think that we use that as part of the discussion. now,

what's wrong with people andre, i'd like to bring you back in and thank you again for your patience. no, that's good. but the original question about the box mode obviously is, is a, a below the siege and, and attrition wall for 7 months. now, do you expect, we'll see similar bustles for further cities in the dumbass like this. a definitely definitely as, as the military situation of the ukraine is getting worse, the most of the west than weapon supplies are ineffective. most of the systems are destroyed the 1st lap, but that have arrived stuck in the mud. and we know from i've gone a son and the rock that there are no super tank at all. it is clear that militarily the ukraine cannot sustain the conflict, and biden knows that he is the 1st one to know that sergeant charles is a bit slower and understanding it. and so they will concentrate on offenses against

the, the territories that have joined russia. that, that is for sure. and unfortunately when your, your conventional means of warfare are exhausted, you will resort to pop to them warfare to guerrilla warfare. just like to save you did, and it's resistance against the nazi forces. and this could carry on for quite some time, unless we find a way back to understanding and dialogue in the ninety's. this was the enormous achievement of really brunt and the politic. suddenly, russia was able to integrate with europe and europe was able to embrace russia and that, of course, panic america. because the, even together with russia would be the strongest economic power on the planet. and that had to be stopped. that had to be hindered. so the old, the old red danger fears were re ignited. let us not forget

that. following on the, on the nazi plan off plan aust to turn russian to a into an agricultural, into a huge from falling on that to $960.00. we had detailed operational plans by nato to, to destroy russia, with 3500 nuclear bombs, detailed plans, the aircraft, you need to, to launch these bombs. and there were detailed calculation to reduce to decimate the russian population to about 45000000 people. it is not as if the world had always been living at peace and now suddenly a disaster has happened. this conflict has been simmering for at least 80 years and, and it will take a lot of statesmanship, a lot of courage of individuals of great leaders like lily bron like charles the goal like odd not to to understand that that in fact all people on the

planet are equal and nobody is born evil. and russians are certainly not the incarnation of evil. so, we will have to stop reproaching each other and for that some initiatives will have to happen. let us hope that the, at most parties in the country, nato and russia, will get tired, well, will, will see that the economic costs of this is enormous. most of europe is facing a recession. suddenly, germany is facing a recession. and england already has supply problems. people in the shops can only buy very limited amount of vegetables. for instance, we will have to, we will have to hope that the next months before the end of the year, and some people will wake up and say, let us talk in less hope that's the apology friendships you. that's hope that's

cool. ahead prevail. i'm afraid we are running out of time, but michael, i still you want to say something i'll just bring you in for a final will quickly. yes, i'm really concerned that the you win has not taken initiative. it hasn't shown a strong leadership. and i think that this might be due to the fact that the united states still tries to rule things and lead way that and in its world order scheme that it's trying to perpetuate here with its leadership, which is very, very destructive as, as we, as we see, the problem is, is that we enter into our, into these agreements for indivisibility over the years. there were 6 of them that were violated tremendously by, by nato expansion. and we don't live up to our own agreement. so the question then is, what, what, what good is the world are these world orders? if people are not going to abide by them?

and i am very concerned that today we don't have that kind of leadership to, to enforce this and to, and to push this. otherwise, we're going to have this kind of, of open ended warfare again. and it's going to spread from region to region. and i'm see know, enter this potentially a rather rather grim note to end on michael. but thank you very much. i'm afraid we are going to have to leave it on the don't call to join him in the studio, michael, my lou, former pentagon, the senior security policy analyst, sony of under endo does journalist who's been covering ukraine complete extensively . and last but not least, andre thomas health and a german attorney and law professor. thank you all very much for your time today and for your thoughts. it's been a pleasure speaking to you all. thank you. bye, bye. good evening. well, in other news to kia may reverse decisions to buy f. 16 jets from the u. s. instead considering are the options well, that's according to a member of the turkish presidency. security and foreign policy council, i believe,

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