a delusion. look a little bit neutral, improves ah, a volunteer up outside the george in parliament, nbc as police on a gas on demonstrated and all correspondent his talk with after the show. and he managed to get up from his bed, bugs, duran. as far as say here, this is where he collapsed teenage boys seriously wounded in the latest ukrainian

attack on yet show a presidential buildings in the russians with plans paging calls on washington to still pick suppression of other countries. so i think that's such ambitions will not benefit the americans themselves as the us intelligence community labels china's communist party, the most consequential national security. ah, very well welcome. this is ancy international with the latest wealth news that makes great to happy with us. i always thought that with the georgian capital tbilisi, where fresh scuffles interrupted between protest is on police and a 2nd day of violence outside the countries parliament. and also the law makers post a controversial bill to label externally funded entities as foreign agents. oh,

[000:00:00;00] i says half reportedly knocked down barricades and according on police officers to take that side, that's off the georgia government refused to fulfill demands to release, protest is detained off the choose days unless they'll make as opposed to decline to repeal the controversial new foreign agent bill, why are police are now firing? take, guess kind of as act crowds of protest as i'll correspondence donald cordially that i've been caught in the violence. ah, if your gas is just wrong, you could feel from over here. sure to get straight to the crowd.

oh oh i i i things here are definitely getting a bit crazier than they were before here in the georgia capital of to please see where these protests are taking place. i just recently, i tried to go back to my hotel and ran into a line of police and they shot tear gas at the protesters. unfortunately, i was among them. i got tear gas in my eyes and it was definitely pretty painful. ah, looks like we're looking at a stand off between the processors and the police. you could see way back there, the police line a line. see people are still waving european union flags and most of the protesters have either fled that way or down that road over there. looks like

a number of the protestors are actually returning walking right into the cloud of the tear gas. the you can see the police line right over there. they're probably getting ready to look for gas. ah, looks like the police are coming from another direction over here. all right, and now we're seeing the, the beginning of things getting quite violent here. now protesters are throwing bottles at the police. it looks like we might see

a repeat of what happened yesterday was molotov cocktails and barricades been built on the slide, st. george and lawmakers approved the 1st have to draw from the foreign agents fill if pulse into law. it will require any organization receiving more than 20 percent of its funding from abroad to register as a foreign agents and movies aimed against the activities of western nonprofit organizations and their associates in georgia. a 2nd draft, phyllis, somewhat pasha, as it mimics the u. s. foreign agents registration on 1938th and would sanction a wide range of organizations and even individuals and what even allow for criminal penalties. second draft will be debated by georgian parliament on thursday. let's not discuss this with in historian and why so many thanks for joining us on the

program. it's good to see. so con, comparisons are already being made to what we're seeing right now into please the and of course, what happened in ukraine in the my done uprising, crowds of people waving flags, american flags, to what extent can we draw parallels between the 2014 uprising of ukraine and what's happening right now in tbilisi it's actually the bit better parallel is 2003 because the original georgia revolution, the, the rows revolution of 2003 was another color revolution inspired and, and run by the united states that brought the government to me hill salish the suckers really into power and the current government of georgia basically emerged in 2012 is opposition to this. and this for an agent law that they're trying to an act is essentially trying to limit the influence of the state department and boisterous law all n g o in general. but western ones in particular,

because they've sort of been running the country for the past 20 years, regardless of who's actually in the government. i mean, i'm sort of sitting here being baffled as to how, you know, tens of thousands of people would object to a loss. trying to enact some sort of transparency as to when awareness for money coming from into cause that governmental agencies determining a country's policy. and yet he georgia and basically being told by the opposition, which is led by salvage, really old party, i believe, is entail for, and attempting to overthrow the government that, you know, this is a russian law. well, it's actually an american law. as you said, the far is actually harsher and it involves criminal penalties for individuals. this is infinitely more lenient. and yet here they are denouncing this is a russian law and saying this is against european boundaries. but european union has harsher laws for people. they regard to before and agents and they've literally

centered and band and confiscated property of people that they consider to be interfering, the americans themselves or an acting flora against political opponents and discipline. so, and then you have the u. s. embassy saying, oh, this is an attack on democracy. what gives if you still attack when democracy, why? why do you have your own law? why do you keep enforced this law at home? you could possibly be that this law is terrible when inaccurate in georgia, but great when it acts in washington dc. now we're seeing this extreme reaction from a huge number of people report say the protesters have been throw molotov cocktails, is while the police. so it's clearly not a peaceful protest. is it? so why then would the countries, presidents as well as western politicians on the media, be supporting the bias if they're not peaceful? well, you, when you, when you speak about the president of georgia, you have to bear in mind that he was born in france. he was the french ambassador of the georgia and then in 2004,

went after soccer really came to power. he to keep for george and citizenship and appointed for foreign minister. so, you know, she's quite literally acting on behalf of the us, us and she's currently in the u. s. for a visit. so, or maybe a private visit. i don't know. she spoke from new york and she's saying, you know, why i'm against the wall. i'm sorry lady, but you know, if you, the vast majority of law makers in the parliament vote in favor of a law. how is that not democracy? i mean it either. georgia has a state in which there are rules and procedures or, you know, whatever the american embassy says goes. but in that, he's don't call it a democracy, call it a quality, call it an oligarchy, call and whatever. but it is definitely not a sovereign democracy. in january 2021, when protest is still in congress, the motion was very quick to condemn the protest. who did that, it was an insurrection. so why now the same tactics being condones by the western

ga? well, because it's never about tactics, the tact and so the, the way this logic works in western political establishment is that it doesn't matter what one does only who does it to who so when, for example, american republicans have a mass protest outside the capital and questioned the results of an election that's clearly not acceptable and not allowed. and you know, terrorism crime, greatest attack on our democracy. pro harbor when ukrainians said police officers on fire and in system over throwing their you're mentally elected government. that's democracy because they're doing it on behalf the state department and victoria newland who's getting them out when the georgia and the police officers and fire and show up with gas mass him helmet and roll fire work said police, that's democracy. but if that same police act like the capital police did on january 6th, then that's dictatorship. they're the only largest. here's the landing this logic

of who, whom there's, there's no, there's no other explanation about, do you feel about this foreign agent bill in georgia? think i think it really poses any sort of real threat to democracy as the west claims. i mean, if, if such a, as i said the u. s, than the u. s. itself has a much harsher law. and you've had the european union cracking down on, you know, any sort of foreign funding and basically labeled or new organizations, russian agents based on no due process whatsoever. and yet, you know, obviously what's good for that particular goose is not good for the georgia gander because when the georgia government says okay, way, maybe you know, all of these so called non governmental organizations that are essentially entirely funded by your tourist or other, you know, us government or norwegian government or the you or whatever. so any sort of number of cut out, maybe they should be accountable. maybe they should be transparent. you can just, you know,

create all of these proposals and initiatives back for foreign money and then the claim to be a georgia democrats. well, that's clearly unacceptable to the west. so it really tells you everything about the values that the people can play the profess. now, when it comes to the, the situation ukraine, georgia has really tried to stay neutral on the conflicts. but do you think that might change anytime soon? well, judging by the number of ukrainian flags seen at these that these riots and the fact that the ukrainian state propaganda is really interested in what's going on, i'm inclined to believe that he have has the direct interest and over throwing the current children's off and placing it with one that was the more pro ukrainian oriented because they've been attempting for the past year to basically bring in georgia on their side and opened a 2nd front against russia in the caucasus. and the georgia government to their credit has refused to do this. they're not necessarily, they're sort of turning a blind eye to georgians who go to ukraine to enlist ukrainian military. there's

like a drug, each other formations that are pretty notorious, but the battlefield. but they're obviously staying out of it because he don't want to fight or russia they sold, but it looks like in 2000, he didn't like it. they're still having a territorial disputing with preferred resolved peacefully. and they don't want to be cannon, water or outside actors. which is partly why they're doing this whole for an agent law. and i'm guessing this also might be based on a suspicion that there are external forces such as the state department trying to push them into basically taking part in this, in this conflict on behalf of the us as opposed to on behalf of some georgia interest. well, what we have the georgia prime minister who's standing by the bill, the georgia president, has said that she will veto the bill if it reaches her desk. she's spoken out in support of the protests as well as we know what sort of power struggle are we now seeing in the country on which side looks to have the most public support. well,

that will depend the president, i believe, based on this most recent reforms. the president's position is the next president position will be a lot of ceremonial. the current president was elected in a popular vote, and she was actually backed by the correct holy party. but they had a falling out about a year or 2 ago. and so now she's basically representing just her cell. i believe she was elected in 2018. he'll her mandate might be coming to an end very soon. and you have a situation in which you have a popularly like the government. i believe the ruling party has close to an absolute majority in the parliament by itself given like ought of a 150 seats. they have 74 and there's 12, you can so they really have more than 50 percent just by themselves. whereas the largest opposition party by self has like, well, so really, i mean if you're judging by election results correctly, the current government has the popular support. but if you're looking at the street protests that it seems like the opposition can, can you know,

try to sort of force street democracy upon it. so now, now the final question is whether the government will actually bend to me to this attempted color revolution. and you know, surrender to demand the street or whether they will uphold the rule of law, such as it is and resist for pressure. i certainly want to wash many thanks for joining the program. really appreciate your insight into the matter. as an historian, as where i had no knowledge, thank you. we take the following development. enjoy john, you can get more details on analysis on the situation in the country on our website . to dawn bus now where ukrainian forces have showed residential buildings in don't yet cleaving to teenage boys wounded ortiz, women cause we're brings this report from the sight of the latest attack. 3 civilians were wounded as

a result of ukrainian artillery shilling. here haines anesco, 2 of those civilians worked children 2 boys, 12 and 13 years old. we're here the scene right now. you can see the house is almost completely had destroyed. everything inside is upside down. investigators were working on the scene and they discovered remains of a shell. now there are clear markins here and numbers and english letter s right here, which is clearly indicates that nato made weapons were used once again, against peaceful civilians. here in the next little year old boy was in his bed during the shilling he was probably on his telephone playing games like the kids like to do these days after the shilling he managed to get up from his bed,

but he ran as far as i hear this is where he collapsed and he was bleeding very profusely. his relatives took the boy right away. that didn't wait for an ambulance and took him to the hospital currently and doctors are trying to save his life now. one of the kids in the next house he sustained light injuries. however, this boy right here, the doctors are yet to give a prognosis on how it will ends up. but of course, the neighbors, the parents, grandparents are hoping that he will make it on lucas. only, giovanni, my grandson was lying on the bus in his dream. the grand all on the floor. i sat cat on the floor. it's called. i sat to her and gone to the washing after that, we'll do the homework and then it hit us hard. i was in the bathroom, the children screamed, i didn't understand at 1st, then i looked and saw the blood. my grandsons had and face orange. it is actually a smugglers you like. and when i heard the 1st blessed stand the children into the corridor,

but only down on the i saw ever seen cover in the snow. the boy who was lying in a bag was badly hidden by shrapnel and the neighbors boy was badly hurt. he carefully loaded him into the car and his that went with him to the hospital. hello . the city of dun desk is under ukrainian shilling every single day. there are victims on a daily basis as well. sometimes they are children, but despite that fact, these parents and their children remain here hand on that scan to have. they're hoping that very soon they will be able to walk the streets and even stay at home in peace. vermont call for. if archie don't escrow public, china will keep up pace, cooperation with russia, despite all the western pressure. that's one of the conclusions voiced by the u. s . intelligence committee at the annual national flights assessment hearing. i'll see is caleb mall pin has more. we have yet another hearing going on before the u. s. senate, and of course,

the u. s. senate is being briefed on one of the favorite topics on capitol hill these days. the idea that china is some kind of massive threat to the united states and the world. now, what we heard was basically testimony assessing that despite the efforts by the united states, to whip up hostility to russia and isolate russia around the world. china will continue to cooperate and strengthen its relationship with russia when it comes to diplomacy. when it comes to defense, technology, economic cooperation, etc, the office of director of national intelligence made clear that russia and china are working closely together. now in addition to that, we heard predictions from us officials, the intelligence community, and that china will continue to press taiwan. and furthermore, china will seek to undercut the united states. here's some of what we heard. c, c, p continues to take and increasingly aggressive approach to external affairs,

pursuing its goal of building a world class military, expanding its nuclear arsenal, pursuing counter space weapons capable of targeting us and allied satellites in brief, the c, c. p represents both the leading and most consequential threat to us national security and leadership globally. now we recently heard the chinese president has not done before and directly call out the united states by name. we also heard the chinese foreign minister speak up and say the united states needs to hit the brakes when it comes to the issue of dealing with china or else this could lead to some kind of confrontation. here's what was said by the chinese foreign minister, may fall your on the wall if united states has ambition to make it so great again, we should not block the way for the development of other countries. containment and suppression will not make america great, and it will not stop the restoration of china. and we have a situation here where china is responding to all kinds of trade warfare and

efforts to suppress their economic growth from the united states. the continued hostility from the united states, and we have an atmosphere in the united states. of course, that is trying to play up the notion that china is a huge threat that we should all be very, very afraid of china. and it seems like the days hearings also seem to emphasize the growing cooperation between china and russia. well, let's discuss this further now with journalists on filmmaker show and stone. many thanks for joining us on the program. it's good to see you now shawn, us, intelligence community has stated that china will continue to support russia despite any western pressure. to what extent is this seen as a problem by washington? well, of course it's a problem for washington in the sense that washington is pursuing this war against russia. visa v. ukraine. it's very much a proxy war. the chinese foreign minister talked about, i think he said, even an invisible hand. right. that's really guiding. and steering this war,

that's why there's been no calls by the west for peace and even by the side for peace. whereas china is now calling for it. rush obviously has said they're open to peace talks. and the west is, is clearly has an agenda here of i guess, bleeding, russia. i mean, i think there are the ultimate goal. the neo con faction would love to see putting out of office and perhaps even more of a 90 style control at west the west exerted over russia when the soviet union collapsed. i think that's their ultimate goal with, with russia. so towards that end, obviously, if china is, is standing strong with russia as china is one of the great global powers it does. it does hurt hinder. the western agenda, right. visa viewed as ukraine war, as always, also been stated that china will try to, on the cut us influence on taiwan as we age and consider taiwan parts of china. so what do you expect washington to try and do in response? well, i mean i, it's difficult to know what washington will do, you know,

in response, as far as the taiwan situation, because you know, this, look, this has been an issue for what is over and over 70 years now. and we, we, i think we get close to war on multiple times in the fifty's over taiwan that was called for most at the time. and, you know, it's, but it's still no one has been there, it's lasted. so you can't get over excited when it comes to, you know, jumping to conclusions that there's going to be a war that said, i mean, look, washington hasn't presumably responded to the, you know, the chinese weather balloon that flew over whether it was weather balloon or spice balloon, i mean, it's kind of silly to think that was very, wasn't producing advanced technology, doesn't seem that was with here. so i don't necessarily expect that there is going to be a military response at this point. you know, it's just, there's too much at stake if you go to a military response, you know, between america and china, and what do you make at the us labeling the chinese communist party is the most

consequential national security threat to the washington palace be more worried about its own issues at home. well a no, it's a, it's a, it's a weird thing because in their report i guess the intelligence community is also saying that the greatest danger to us persons is neo nazis and white supremacists, right. and why nationalists, so across the board i feel like they're kind of there, they're picking and choosing who they want to any say who they decide as the enemy of the week. and, you know right now, maybe it's, it's politically certain, serves their agenda, you know, to say that china is their number one enemy, when you're talking about the amount of trade and influence that china has globally . it's one thing to say that when you're trying to basically, you know, stoke excitement in your, in your, in the media or in, in washington and deployed, you know, defense spending and certain areas. but in terms of reality, i don't think that china isn't. that is, is the number one enemy of americans as my size and observe as might say that the u

. s. is finding it so hard to get over the cold war era mentality that they need another communist challenge. and this is why the focused on the china, would you agree with that? yeah, i mean it's, it's, it's interesting questioning all of, of how on how seriously are they focused on china. you know, because again, this has been talked about. i remember, you know, for going on over 20 years while he's 20 years that we've been hearing about the rising threat of china. and there are aspects of china that, that are problematic. i mean, to come in, come into the ology is not what we want in the western world. and i think most of the world would agree, you know, we don't want to come to the ology. so there's a lot of problems with that type of government. and that said, i mean, you know, again i said before there's, there's too much economic entanglement globally to simply say, you know, you're at the place of having any kind of realistic conflict. so if it's a cold war type of disengagement that we see between china and russia for example,

and even perhaps others of the, of the bricks and other 3rd world. so called 3rd world or non line countries kind of shifting away from the west that i think walton, they create bigger problems for the western economies than anything at the chinese up take talk isn't apparently a bit of a bug, beth of the west, as well as the u. s. claims this being used for the manipulation of american uses. what are your thoughts on last? yeah, i mean look it's, it's is interesting when you have something like a tick tock which does seem for example, the chinese is we know have censorship in their country. they sensor a lot of information and the sensor, a lot of platforms and even i incentive talk is more censored as far as the content that they allow there. whereas in america, obviously we see a lot of can you say bad behavior, you want to say? and perhaps, you know, a lot of young people are very much influenced by the content on tick tock. so when

you have something to say where there might be any logical attempt by the chinese to influence degeneration in america also as they've been talked about, there's the data mining aspect of gathering information on anyone that's using tick tock, right? so this is very important going forward. so i think there are rational concerns as far as you know, as what's being mind, the data mining the information and the use of information by a take talk. but at the same time you can't win these wars through censorship. i believe you have to win the war through better ideas and better platforms and basically, you know how to encouraging the population as opposed to censorship. has also been a wave of criticism from chinese authorities over america attempts to contain at aging. i say say the u. s. reportedly wants to sanction china. how significant of an effect would that have on the us economy day? well, i mean it's, it's, it would be huge. i mean, it's, i can, i'm not an economist. i can't tell you all, you know how bad it would be. obviously, it would be a huge effect. i mean, we saw,

look, i think that there were things that, you know, trump was trying to do as far as the tariffs, that made a lot of sense. you know, when you're talking about being, for example, like pro pro us industry. but obviously, there's always consequence to, you know, because we are in this global market in this global marketplace. we're trying to, you know, for example, small businesses included are now able to acquire a cheaper labor and goods from, from china. so if you, if you're talking about trying to contain in economic fashion, china, which is again what the 2nd biggest economy in the world, essentially, it just, it won't, it won't end well, it will just take for tat and all kinds of trade war and escalation of conflict when we don't really need that this moment already in america where we're hurting as far as inflation is concerned. for example, thanks very much for speaking to us today. sean, it's really great to have you on the show. we've been talking to journalists on filmmaker, sean stan to india,

where animal rights group pizza has on vow the life signs robot elephant to the use of tourism and religious rituals instead of real animals, we often mistreated worshippers in the state of corolla have welcome c, mechanical alamo made of iron and rather a traditional ceremony was held at a local temple where the new po box was sanctified by the head priests weiss activists of long demanded to abolish the use of live elephants is saying it amounts to cruelty, especially when the gentle giant surrounded by noisy crowds of exploding fireworks during religious festivals, we heard from local were supposed to say the invention is a big step towards freeing live animals. where no elephant ro, you know, use them for solar girls in the face to move. they are taken away from 4 days and beaten into submission or performing in the gap that would be big, you know, use such mechanical offense that you know and amazing or native nor anonymous means

to support and offend. so in the wise, i'm increasingly them percent get a lot using alternators like falling in charge on such mechanical edison. this is the beginning of a major chain. we have received a request from many temples to use rob on the elephant in their festivals. we have already confirmed a few events for him this month. safety was the primary reason for grating among many elephants a previous run amuck during festivals. recently people realize the importance of mechanical elements and such incidents happens. now people are watching the festival without fear. many thanks the company here and i'll see international will be back at the top of the hour with more select the i wait, my call a magical place,