and there has been a crossing of our soldiers army and so on by a country which is considered as one of the permanent members of the supreme of the security council. it is so, and a she did so now and therefore i think it would be, must be, i mean, you can allow a country to reach or to the defense less in these substances. so you don't buy it as a whole. you don't see at all what other countries in the global sub do, which was this was nato encroachment in the east and that there was a qu, we have the phone call, evidence of victoria newland. now, in the biden state department, you don't believe there was a clue that led to this situation. you don't believe that they blew up the north stream pipelines, applying energy to europe, that this was planned as a 1st of all, the unraveling of the soviet union was by mutual consent. i was to go by, jo,

participate in all agreed. so and it crane became a member of the united nations. and now if you know you, you and i had it, if you had done any of those crimes that are being mentioned, and i'm not saying that i know for sure either way. but the fact is that good that would have been big enough with the united nations. and it was, it was a resolution of the men's chords that became un security council resolution to 202 . i mean they're, you're being quite equivocal. so you are supporting moody's line, which is neither knowing the side in a way what it is. more pros or russian and chinese and a to states and which is that russia should regard strokes from your pain. and then we can talk all the, all the complaints that are there that can be taken up at that stage, but not then you sent troops across it, across the international boundary. so you don't just think that since the u. s.

lead, who in 2014, the continued attacks on don bass. you think russia should just have allowed them to erase those who spoke russian in dorm bus? as we know from merkel in the midst records were a way of them arming to fight don't bass. and the issue is not that the issue is the use of the army to cross a international boundaries. and there is not the issue of what was wrong. the opinions did not show that one stage. there was a person who was there president and he was doing all kinds of things. but the fact of the matter is the, there are some ground rules of the united nations, and you don't cross the national boundary. and i shall, i don't think i made a big issue international issue because we, in india are the new,

the russians either problem the kind that you just mentioned in ukraine. will them, why do you think it is that the majority of humanity is represented at the united nations? don't vote the u. s. is way in numbers, numerical terms, of course they do follow in the course, people in the global cell call them vessel states that follow washington. but those that represent the majority of humanity, india, china, the big, the big countries that you have sent it, they didn't, they don't go along with the view that russia should just immediately withdraw. and this has to happen before any negotiations happen. why prime minister india has done my little distance by saying the washer. this is not time for war. you should, in the war, even that the russians are not agreeing. so i wouldn't say india is not on the opposite side. india. in fact,

i thank you again for the fact that they assisted us to evacuate all our students and their corporate us the, our neighbors here. and they are fully active here. but the fact is that indian position is not, i mean indians trying to, we will, it's in this, and i say, you know, you lose both ways. in this, you've got to take a stand. i know you're with the russians are, you know, with the way it's and your stand is clearly with the americans. is, does that mean that in a sense, your supporting the old order because it's been said many times as you know at the shang, i cooperation, organization meetings, at bricks, meetings all across latin america or africa, southeast asia. that a new world is coming. that the days of iraq, syria, libby, afghanistan, those interventions are over. and i, i don't know whether you similarly condemned. of course, the americans and the british for invading afghanistan, libya, iraq,

and syria. if i don't do you understand, let me tell you that chill the chinese walked across the mutually agreed line of actual control and to, for our land in, in the dark i was suppose considered as one of the best friends of china in india. i of course, have specialized in china. i speak chinese, a written books on the chinese economy, and i like them, they watch, but what they did, it left us all speechless. they just crossed otto took or they didn't just ross viewed the indians a took him to the armor, i think was i think no, no lack in the sixty's utilize. you're going back to i'm, you're talking about the 202020. i'm talking about 2020. when it was all agreed that there would be 1995. we agreed to

a line of actual control. we chair and neither side said legally are a no solve the problem the border. but they said that we will not, i will to wall for this and we'll talk so to lend the status or as it existed, then i will draw a line of action control the chinese mileage of that and prost it in 2020 you know, as of the blank is going to love the said the clearly he's going to want you to be prime minister. so you think china should have just gone along with the fact that there are how many bases us basis surrounding surrounding china. and you think china was fine with the 28 in the us nuclear cooperation deal? the 2016 logistics exchange. memorandum of agreement in the us to just 16. 2017 us quadrilateral security dialogue in the u. s. japan and australia. 2018 comcast. a u . s. dialogue, military equipment, military agreement,

all these agreements are 2020 back and see if i was china. i'd be saying india is the enemy here is basically become the vessel states that australia, new zealand, japan, south korea as well, that they can see a lot of people are saying that russia junior partner and on the, on the face of it, you know, there some a looks like that, but i am not. i am so told you that i would there would be no state china, except when they found that there crossed the line. and at that time i played a major role in the going off with mr. nothing more hours, prime minister in having a line of actually control. and yeah, but i mean, i might say china is to lenient on india and after those deals should have said the original agreement that was signed in the ninety's should be really good. india is become part of the problem. i don't see it as far as china's problem

with taiwan. we're not supporting, i want as a, as an independent country. we are not according to bit as an independent art or mean the independent country. we are sticking to the 1950s. think we then enter into the hong kong washington policy to technically oh, there are. well, no, actually that's washington policy. no, no. in reality they have a huge presence in iraq. and there are a huge a in, in hong kong to, i mean, the commercial sense. but i think that is all the most you can recognize is tie. one is why the china just as india does, but in effect size, i do not go beyond is a limit to which i support united states a country. i'm very familiar with them and it's easier to talk to them. and

a more frank and straightforward, i had a much of a difficulty with the russians when the new, when i went in and use a master game here. and i can, he was very nice to me. but in the end, he told me that we still bill, lot of judges against you with this. so we had to by the way, so we do it in was against me. from the day i came back from america, and every one of the publications made out there was an agent america. and then later on there began saying i was in china. so these are, these are cheap things that i said politicians. but the fact is that i come back to the question, you have crossed the international line. now before that is like the fight, nothing has to be discussed. this is how i would approach the same as even when germany recognized gray. sure, in the sort of us level, i didn't think also. well,

that's the thing i'm going to say. you just said is the limit. you said there's a limit. what if the united, i know that russian oil imports to india hit a record high for february from the figures only this week? if biden blew up all the pipelines and all the transportation links of gas energy to india, would that be the limit like he's allegedly done with the north stream supplying germany's energy? if they do that, we'll get going from what i don't think we have good relations with their own despite the americans not being very happy with i think you have a you have seen this, you're putting this in a black and white says scenario that i know you are become a basil street. you are opposed to leave on the united states is the middle ground . and what you're suggesting, i am not here. i would love. i love to be on good relations or russians. i admired that my expectations. i learned a lot of economics because you had brilliant mathematicians. ah,

but then the know now it's not that any more. ah, it's a, i'm the world is seeing russia as a junior partner of china. well, i mean, i'm china and russia don't say that that's the case. so is he trying to needing russian energy resources or money and why me, i'll stop you. the more from the veteran b g, p, politician up to this break with what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. that development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful,

very difficult time to sit down and talk a news media was cards and that if you speak russian, keep your voice down while out and about a couple of don't put your human symbols on display a guy. so you guys don't talk to strangers, i avoid noisy gatherings, a more actually eaten your colleagues and perhaps also your friends think you're guilty because you'll russian a

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ah ah, welcome back. i'm still here with dr. romanian swami. 6 to him, raja saba, m p in india's ruling b j. p u tweeted to your 10000000 followers that india basically should follow them all. these brewton the so called new communist party run nepal. this is the kind of resolution a that should be supported, russia, an immediate withdrawal. what, why this wasn't india be part of a team like the mold eaves in baton and nepal instead of instead of russia, china of africa, vietnam, bangladesh, cuba, pakistan, all these other countries representing well shuttle rapidity of ne paul wooten. ah, you know what?

she lost her. i tell you, don't think that boy john and the mole leaves voted that way against russia because that they thought that do you don't think washington told them they went against india and that was something which never happened before. are you be treat him as for like you mentioned through lanka, there? i india. i mean, i don't know how much a leverage the i m f and world bank have. we've got john perkins, the economic k confessions of an economic hit man on the show. soon and he talks about how the world bank and i m f, treat developing world countries. and now you've been celebrating sir lanka, again, getting into debt into the washington institutions. what have you got against the bricks bank? bridge rank by they are ours or the president of position on by the minister of india. but i took the stand that died left harvard, india now understand india one getting out. if them the bricks bank to new delhi,

i would be happy to hear it. but that is that what i'm saying is there's not, ah, there's no biased hostility. i hated or any of the countries which i'm a policy. and they, and as i told you, i was extremely well on a good relationship with china. i met them shall, being the chair, richie, and out of his way because i didn't want any government position at that time except of that member of parliament. and then i, i, i felt a read chinese did what the other chinese, as it read me as a president didn't, don't, ah, and this has created it, i think on which i have to take the indian stand. also you national, a national interest stand and i've been on a harsh me on china. i work china also we gates all these areas and we can go back

to being with friends and then how, how is it going to placate these areas which they say are there is now, if a politician's like yourself continue to appear to be vassal, politicians of the security state of the united states, again and again, you don't need to recognize what leverage with the chinese formulas just been saying this week. they see this existential threats by nato. the military bases with the massive american spending for bases all around the global. so from like from 1972 to about 2005, i would say china was much more of a vassal united states state than we ever ever. we. the fact is that we are not a vast and state law. it's not going to provoke me to feel bad about it because you are known as a i know you're very much liked in india as a, as

a command. and i, when you, when we were was, and we just, i think you're going to be chased to your union. this also can be traced to us so that, that is so, so what i'm saying is, please don't get into this question of extremes. i'm not for a mass instead, i'm not for an enemy who is with india, who certified to the india. i would be happy to with them in the chinese had not come and take an hour in 2020. our staff would have been quite different and just in 5 b. so today i cannot show the idea that i show can you know or kill people in the, in the ukraine and that we should keep quiet. and i can tell you, what are the government may say the vast majority of indians want us to cite you play. arguably, the vast majority of indians may be going on strike in the, of the largest strike in history, the pharmacy, the pharmacy,

when they go out again, you mentioned actually in the diaspora as you say, i am of a d, and ancestry. it's also common that reasonably common that people have indian ancestry that embrace the colonial masters. and i don't know what you think of issues to next policy. so you agree with richie so neck clearly that we must support nato. we must supple washington at all costs. what do you think of the fact? uranium imports from russia into the usa are exploding. you is continuing to import masses of a russian energy who's paying most india is paying for the bullets from russia. because the massive record oil buying by india. but the united states and you is paying for the russian war as well to the show, the complete contradiction and all of this well, i mean buying oil from russia. if you today,

india had an alternative. ready we would stop by for sure, you'd want alia to stop buying energy from russia. and i would say that i would say that if you do not listen to india even on a simple thing like a c spy, or a withdrawal from a small country called ukraine, than you really don't actually know. is he and, and therefore i'd be happy to re evaluate our positions we, we are with the united states, not because the united states is a be out of out of state. we refuse to have them on the stand. they wanted us to bring troops, they said they will use this and not that free of charge. we said no, we will not participate with troops in afghanistan. no, no, i mean i say it continues to give weapons to pakistan, but still there are circumstances which have been created by which we need to be

written better relations with united states. so the thing is, the average union finding much more value will go to united states to study than any other part who are and so we have to maintain some really good relations with the united states so that people can go and learn about sciences in the united states. so i mean there are so many factors. you see, you're putting it in black and white and that you're right. but i'm saying the issue is not black and white. we can tomorrow become a united states, but i don't see any way the americans have harmed our national interest in any way . we don't think that the chinese have, and the chinese seem to control the russians because the russian language and a, and it's behavior and recently in our bilateral meetings about what china has done to india is very, very negative as was yet. and so though not natal,

according to prime minister moody, is saying, i don't know when you're just are you going to join the congress party? you sound a little gun, leila? don't, don't say to my enemies who are constantly trying to send me to the a the congress party. i'm in the process of sending sonya going to the jail on a production charge along with the sun. yes. yeah, and i said it was when you're on the same side when you want to be fated in washington. arguably, there's a china piece deal, and i recognize what you said about in the you're not sending troops to afghanistan and not joining in the destruction of the beer of syria of iraq, tens of millions. i don't know how vocal you were against the u. s. foreign policy in the certainly was but isn't that the point is an arc of history and wanting to render moody is doing today? joining with china with although lula, president, lula brazil has been on this program, has been making different sound. so it's difficult for any leader to oppose

u. s. foreign policy. this is the arc of history, isn't it? that the students who want to study in america, they do talk about their learning from a dying? no. listen, that i did. none of these are the decisive factors. the decisive factor you want to know is the chinese crossing the lacy and plumbing and occupying are judges. that is shown, went through this at the beget, sorry to interrupt, to 3, but we went through this. i went through all these deals, nuclear corporation in 20 o 8 a deal signed between india and the united states. what do you think china's going to do? allow india to launch nuclear weapons at major. yeah, but you're talking about the line of actual control after you by our territory. they can have more you'd nuclear weapons and put them facing in it. i don't mind that. i think i think the intermediate, i leave that just because we had a piece. in fact my do

a lot of people in india was that they were saying that you will harm our nuclear weapons program by this. you know, the conditions that the american, that what would, in effect a destroy a, our progress in our moving towards a nuclear arsenal. you see, because we have sodium and actually on my, if we are able to convert it, decided to a mo, for the nuclear weapons, i think so we have 60 percent, it was her a tony m. and it would have been a totally different situation. all that we give up for the sake of nuclear fire electricity. so i will not say that they, the chinese should have been they should have been happy that the americans are. ready are one of our nuclear program. yeah. and so india has been continually since 2008 through the 2, thousands. moving in

a way that is going to alarm anyone opposed to washington foreign policy, whether it be in the middle east, in north africa, all over. i mean, i just want to know back to back to you grain. and we got to remember, bricks used to be ricks, russia, india, china, before it became bricks. do indians don't even know about the victorian newland phone call? can they did they not gone on to you tube and heard victorian ulan choose who is going to lead ukraine after the u. s. back who, which was the start of this current proxy war. wow. only you will take us seriously. i will not see and do indians take seriously the idea the joe biden, antony blink, jake sullivan, victoria newland, and the cia bomb the north street pipeline. is it that i a different teach and, and when we actually are being well, it's kind of important,

isn't it? the, given that the biggest it will finally draw something that it's important is something that we will put it into our computer for future. notice it's by design, something that we get kennedy will buy. if somebody says that we will decide who will be what and so on. well, i'm pretty sure 9, i would do more than that if india's pipelines and india. and i don't see why i don't see why china just back and do what we had agreed in 1095 and then change the whole climate. you know, we've been through like the previous interview where what your doing is in effect, divide and rule by washington. if you continually isn't that would moody has recognized that imperial powers, imperial washington realizes they can split the joint power powers of india and china. and you are falling into that trap. maybe it's your american education. we

are. it's just totally. i value that the education i was taught than by nobel laureates and became a very famous man in economics, thanks to them. but the fact is that a, i b had extremely good relations with china, from 1952. ah, 1962. we gave up our claim. i mean, we were offered the national, the security council, a holding seat, which is really after china became communist, near reagan said we can give it to them. we turned it down and campaigned every year that it should be given to china, assigned a treaty against everybody's wishes on to match in b being so saying to bedford, we autonomous. we said not the biggest part of china, and miss so much bye in 2003 said even it would be our truncated

and it would be and the chinese have done that. they have broken parts of it, get it done to grow in so, or something in situ, on it like that. now to read is a much smaller place. so all these we were going along with, ah, but the coming and the baking, the mutually agreed treatment. a t j and then cross across and take these areas as he did so years i've been in, i think that was every chair that we can swallow. well, china says that they are biding by it, and of course things have calmed down since those are terrible events from a couple of years ago. doctor, to remind swami. thank you. that's it for the show will be back next saturday, 9 years to the day crimea voted to be bought of russia following a u. s. back coup in kiev until then you can keep in touch my role as social media . if it's not sense it in your country, but you can always head to our channel going underground tv on rumble. don't com to

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