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from prime minister moody's ruling birth. he had you not a party of b, j. p. in india. unlike moody, he supports the nature line on ukraine, doctors of romanian swami form a cabinet minister and 6 term regis. i'm p as in new delhi. thank you so much, deborah. on the ever coming back on. i mean, last time you were on the show that you were slamming u. k. colonialism. and now, now you seem to be completely supporting your old colonial master. the britain. and the european colonial must is on the ukraine proxy war. what do you got against this rise of the global south? finally, winning the day? yeah. well 1st of all, the britain is following the american light. and then i'm not pulling britain more less in tandem with the americans on buckeye, they are the fundamental question is that a green is a independent united nations member? and there has been a crossing of our soldiers army and so on by
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a country which is considered as one of the permanent members of the supreme of the security council. it is so, and a she did that so now and therefore i think it would be, must be, i mean, you can allow a country to reach or to the defense less in these circumstances. so you don't buy as a whole. you don't see at all what other countries in the global south do, which was this was nature encroachment in the east and that there was a qu, we have the phone call, evidence of victoria newland. now, in the biden state department, you don't believe there was a clue that led to this situation. you don't believe that they blew up the north stream pipelines, applying energy to europe, that this was plant as a 1st of all the, the unraveling of the soviet union was by mom a single by j participating. all agree. so you pain became
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a member of the united nations. and now if you know you, you and i had a b, if you had done any of those times that are being mentioned. and i'm not saying that i know for sure either way. but the fact is that good, that would be big enough with the united nations. there was a resolution of them in school codes that became un security council resolution to 202. i mean they're, you're being quite equivocal. so you are supporting moody's line, which is neither knowing the side in a way what is his lower pros of russian chinese and the united states and which is that russia regard strokes from your pain. and then we can talk all the, all the complaints that are there that can be taken up at that stage, but not then you sent troops across it, across the international boundary. so you don't just think that since the u. s.
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lead to in 2014, the continued attacks on don bass. you think russia should just have allowed them to erase those who spoke russian in dorm bus, as we know for money of them arming to fight don't bus in the issue is not that the issue is the use of the army to cross a international boundaries. and there is not a issue or what was wrong. the opinions did not show that, that one stage, there was a person who was their president and he was doing all kinds of things. but the fact of the matter is the, there are some ground rules of the united nations, and you don't pass the national boundary. and i shall, i don't think that, and i shall made a big issue international issue because being in the, are the new, the russians out of problem, the kind that you just mentioned in you think. well them,
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why do you think it is that the majority of humanity is represented at the united nations? don't vote the u. s. is way in numbers, numerical terms, of course they do follow and of course, people in the global south golden vessel states that follow washington. but those that represent the majority of humanity, india, china, the big, the big countries that you have sent it. they didn't, they don't go along with the view that russia should just immediately withdraw. and this has to happen before any negotiations happen. why prime minister of india has come a little distance by saying the washer. this is not time for why you should in the war, even that the russians are not agreeing. so i won't say india is not on the opposite side. india. in fact, i thank you again for the fact that they assisted us to evacuate all our students.
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and their corporate us, the, our numbers here and they are fully active here. but the fact is that the indian position is not, i mean indians trying to, we will, it's in this and i say you, you lose both ways. in this, you got to take a stand. i know you're with the russians are, you know, with the way it's and your sand is clearly with the americans. is, does that mean that in a sense, your supporting the old order because it's been said many times as you know at the shang, i cooperation, organization meetings, at bricks, meetings all across latin america or africa, southeast asia. that a new world is coming. that the days of iraq, syria, libby, afghanistan, those interventions are over and i don't know whether you similarly condemned. of course, the americans and the british for invading afghanistan, libya, iraq and syria. so i don't understand,
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let me tell you that chill the chinese walked across the mutually agreed line of actual control and to our land in, in the dark i was supposed to consider as one of the best friends of china in india . i of course, have specialized in china. i speak chinese, a written books on the chinese economy, and i like them, they watch, but what, what they did, it left us all speechless. they just crossed and joe took, or they didn't just ross viewed the indians a took him to the armor, i think was i think no, no, back in the sixty's you, you're going back to. are you talking about the 2020 and are you talking about 2020 . when it was all agreed that there would be 1995. we agreed to a line of actual control. we chair and neither side to side just legally
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or you know, solve the problem of the border. but they said that we will not have to go to wall for this. and we'll talk so to lend the status or as it existed, then i will draw a line of action control the chinese mileage of that and passed it in 2020 you know, as of the blank is going to love the said the clearly he's going to want you to be prime minister. so you think china should have just gone along with the fact that there are, how many bases us basis surrounding surrounding china and you think china was fine with the 28 in the u. s. newton cooperation deal. the 2016 logistics exchange. memorandum of agreement in u. s. to just 16. 2017 us quarter lateral security dialogue in the u. s. japan and australia. 2018 comcast. a u. s. dialogue, military equipment, military agreement, and all these agreements 2020, back and see if i was china. i'd be saying india is the enemy here is basically
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become the vessel states that australia, new zealand, japan, south korea as well. and that they can see, in fact, a lot of people are saying that a junior partner and on the, on the face of it, you know, there some, a looks like that. but i am not, i am so told you that i would there would be no state china, except when they found that they have crossed the line. and at that time i played a major role in the going off with mr. nothing more hours. prime minister. in having a line of actual control. and yeah, but i mean, i might say china is too lenient on india and after those deals should have said the original agreement that was signed in the ninety's should be really good. india is become part of the problem. i don't see it as far as china's problem with taiwan. we're not supporting. i want as a,
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as an independent country. we are not according to bit as an independent art or mean didn't 20 independent country. we are sticking to the 1950s. think we then enter into the hong kong washington policy to technically oh, there are. well, no, actually that's washington policy. no, no. in reality they have a huge presence in iraq. and there are a huge, a in, in hong kong. do i mean the commercial sense? but i think that is all the most you can recognize is tie. one is not a china just as india does, but in effect size, i do not go beyond is a limit to which i support the united states and i will try to country. i'm very familiar with them and it's easier to talk to them. and i, they are more frank and straightforward. i had a much of
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a difficulty with the russians when the new, when new master came here. and i can, he was very nice to me, but in the end he told me that we still bear a lot of judges against you with this. so we had to by the way, so we do it. it was against me. from the day i came back from america and every one of the publications made out there was an agent for america. and then later on there began saying i was in china. so these are, these are cheap things that i said politicians. but the fact is that i come back to the question, you have crossed the international line. now, before that is like the fight, nothing has to be discussed. this is how i would approach the you said the same as you when germany recognized gray. sure. in the sort of us level, i didn't think also. well, that's the same thing. i'm going to just say you just said is the limit. you said there's a limit. what is the united?
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i know that russian oil imports to india hit a record high for february from the figures only this week. if biden blew up all the pipelines and all the transportation links of gas energy to india. would that be the limit, like he's allegedly done with the north stream supplying germany's energy? if they do that, we'll get going from what i don't think we have good relations with their own despite the americans not being very happy with i think you have you have seen this young putting this in black and white says scenario that i know you are become a basil staple. if you are opposed to leave on the united states, there's no middle ground in what you're suggesting. i am not j here. i would love. i love to be on good relations russians. i admired that my petitions. i learned a lot of economics because you had brilliant mathematicians. ah, but then the know now it's not that any more. ah, it say,
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i'm glad the world is seeing russia is a junior partner of china. well, i mean, i'm china and russia don't say that that's the case over. see china needing russian energy resources, doctors over money. and so i me, i'll stop you there more from the veteran b, j. p. politician after this break with ah, march, the 112011. the largest earthquake ever recorded in japan is registered. a 14
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meter tsunami devastates the fukushima di each and nuclear power plant. a minimum of with the nuclear ian tis a flooded sparking and horrific disaster. holiday fishermen's id issue about the job. he said the killed in the mid of honey. i go on a, i old sort of belief, actually, vio, an italian junior is living in japan, decided to go to the area of the nuclear meltdown from fukushima immediately when i remember for sure that every bus one of us, that either jordan takeover. so i'd love to talk to and i did check with somebody about the with the to put her to been more than a full year investigation starts watch on our t. ah,
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welcome back. i'm still here with dr. super money. and swami. 60, i'm roger saba, m p in india's ruling b, j. p. you tweet at your 10000000 follow is that in the a basically should follow them all. these brewton the so called new communist party run nepal. this is the kind of resolution a that should be supported. russia, an immediate withdrawal. what, why this wasn't india be part of a team like the mold eaves and boots on and nepal instead of, instead of russia, china, south africa, vietnam, bangladesh, cuba, pakistan. all these other countries representing well shuttle rapidity of new a tom, ah, no. was she long? until you don't think the baton and them all leaves voted that way against russia
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because they thought that do you don't think washington tell them they went against india and that was something which never happened. oh, you betrayed him. as for like you mentioned 3 lanka there. i india. i mean i don't know how much a leverage the i m f and world bank have. we've got john perkins, the economic k confessions of an economic hit man on the show soon. and he talks about how the world bank and i m f, treat developing world countries. and now you've been celebrating sir lanka into the washington institutions. what have you got against the bricks bank? bridge bank, by the way, i was offered the president position out by the minister of india, but i took the stand that died left harvard, india now understanding. yeah. one, getting out in the bricks bank to new delhi, i would be happy to hear it. but that is that what i'm saying is there is no,
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ah, there's no biased hostility. i hated or any of the countries which i'm opposing. and they, as i told you, i was extremely well on a very good relationship with china. i met them shall, being the chair each year and out of his way because i didn't want any government position at that time except of that member of parliament. and then i, i, i felt a read chinese did what the other chinese, as it read me as a president's didn't don't, ah, and this has created it. i think to take the indian stand also you national, a national to stand and i have big on a harsh me on china. i work china also we gates all these areas and we can go back to being good friends and then how i think gonna hate these areas which they say are there is now. if politicians like yourself continue to appear to be vassal
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politicians of the security state of the united states again and again, you don't see to recognize what leverage with the chinese formulas just been saying this week. they see this existential threats by nato. the military bases with the massive american spending for bass is all around the global self from like from 1972 to about 2005. i would say china was much more of a vassal united states state than we ever ever. we. the fact is that we are not a vast and state law. it's not going to provoke me to feel bad about it because you are known as a i know you're very much liked in india as a, as a command. and i, when you, when we were was and because i think you're going to be chased to your union, this also can be traced to us so that, that is so. so what i'm saying is,
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please don't get into this question of extremes. i'm not for a mass instead, i'm not for an enemy who is with india, who satisfied with the india? i would be happy to with them in the chinese that our staff would have been quite different and just in 5 me so. but today i cannot sell the idea that shock and you know, kill people in, in the, in the ukraine and that we should keep quiet. and i can tell you what the government may say. the vast majority of indians want us to cite you play. arguably the vast majority of indians may be going on strike the me of the largest strike in history, the farm and the farm as well. to go out again. you mentioned actually in the diaspora as you say, i am of a d and ancestry, but it's also common that reasonably common that people have indian ancestry that embrace the colonial masters. and i don't know what you think of issues to next
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policy. so you agree with richie cynic clearly that we must support nature. we must supple washington at all costs. what do you think of the fact? uranium imports from russia into the usa are exploding. you is continuing to import masses of russian energy who's paying i was in the is paying for the bullets from russia because the massive a record oil buying by india. but the united states and you is paying for the russian war as well to the show, the complete contradiction of all those. well, i mean, buying are from russia if you today, india had an alternative there. ready we will stop by for sure, you'd want alia to stop buying energy from russia. and i would say that i would say that if you do not listen to india even on a simple thing like, i mean a c spy or
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a withdrawal from a small country called ukraine, than you really don't cancel it. and therefore, i be have to re evaluate our position. so we, we are with the united states, not because the united states is always a, be out of assets date. we refuse to have them on the stand. they want to last of the troops. they said they will use this to not that free of charge. we said no, we will not participate with the troops in dallas on a united states continues to give weapons to pakistan. but still, there are circumstances which have been created by which we need to be written better relations with united states. 3rd thing is the average union find it much more valuable to go to united states to study than any other alert. and so we have to maintain some really good relations with the united states so that people can go
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and learn about sciences in the united states. so, i mean, there are so many factors. you see, you're putting it in black and white and that you're right. but i'm saying the issue is not black and white, we can tomorrow become a united states, but i don't see any way the americans have harmed our national interest in any way . we don't think that the chinese have, and the chinese seem to control the russians because the russian language and a, and it's behavior and recently in our bilateral meetings about what china has done, india is very, very negative as far as they are concerned, though not natal according to prime minister, moody is say, i don't know if you're just are you going to join the congress party, you santa a. don't don't say to my enemies who are constantly trying to send me into the, the, the longest party. i'm in the process of sending sonya going to the jail on
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a production charge along with the sun. yes, yeah, and i said it was when you're on the same side when you want to be fated in washington. arguably, there's a china piece deal, and i recognize what you said about in the not sending troops to afghanistan and not joining in the destruction of the beer of syria of iraq, tens of millions. i don't know how vocal you were against the u. s. foreign policy in the certainly was but isn't that the point is an arc of history and what no render moody is doing today? joining with china with, although lula, president, lula brazil has been on this program, has been making different sound. so it's difficult for any leader to oppose u. s. foreign policy. this is the arc of history, isn't it? that the students who want to study in america, they do talk about the learning from a dying? no, listen, that i did. none of these are the decisive factors. the decisive factor you want to know is the chinese crossing the ls. he and coming and occupying are judging. that
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is, she went through this the beget, sorry to interrupt the 3, but we went through this. i went through all these deals, nuclear corporation in 20 a way to deal same between india and the united states. what do you think china's going to do? allow india to launch nuclear weapons at major. yeah, and you're talking about the line of actual control after you by our territory. they can have more you nuclear weapons and put them facing india. i don't mind that . i think i think the in the and i can leave that just because we had a piece. in fact my do a lot of people in india all that really well saying that you will harm our nuclear weapons program by this. you know, the conditions that the american that what would you know fed disarray our progress in moving towards a nuclear arsenal. you see, because we have sodium and that for your my,
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if you are able to convert it decided to a my phone for the nuclear weapons. i think so. we have 60 percent. it was her a tony m. and you would have been a 20 gala or the sake of nuclear for electricity. so i will not say that they, the chinese should have been, they should have been happy that the americans are now a nuclear program. yeah. and so india, in a way that is going to alarm anyone opposed to washington foreign policy, whether it be in the middle east, in north africa, all over may, i just want to know back to back to you, graeme. and we've got to remember bricks used to be ricks, russia, india, china, before it became bricks. do indians don't even know about the victorian newland phone call? can they did they not gone on to you tube and heard victorian ulan choose who is
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going to lead ukraine after the u. s. back who, which was the start of this current proxy war. wow. only you will take us seriously. i will not see, and do indians take seriously the idea the joe biden and to the blink, jake sullivan, victoria newland, and the see a bomb the north street pipeline is, is that a different the and and when we truly are being well, it's kind of important isn't it that, given that the biggest central fire or something that it's important, that is something that we will put it into a computer for future. notice it's by, there's not something that we get get it will by. if somebody says that we will decide who you are and so on. well, i'm pretty sure 9 i would do more than that if in this pipelines and india and i don't see why,
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i don't see why china just on back and do what we had agreed in one thing that imperial powers, imperial washington realizes they can split the joint power powers of india and china and you are falling into that trap. maybe it's your american education. yeah . it's just like i value that a jewish name starts then by law my lawyer. so i became a famous man in economics, thanks to them. but the fact is that a i b had extremely good relations with china. from 1952. 1962. we gave up our claim. i mean, we were offered the national, the security council a vote veto holding c, which is really after china became communist, near reagan said we can give it to them. we turned it down and campaigned every year that it should be given to china. a signed
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a treaty against everybody's wishes on to match in b v. so saying to me, would be autonomous. we said not the biggest part of china, and we're so much bye in 2003 said even if it would be our truncated and it would be and the chinese have done that. they have broken parts of it, get been done to grow. and so something in situ, on i like that now to read is a much smaller place. so all these me we're going along with ah, but be coming and they're breaking the mutually agreed treatment a t j and then cross across and take these areas as indian soldiers i've been in, i think that was jail, that we can swallow. well, china says that they are abiding by it, and of course things have calmed down since those are terrible events from
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