sub saw in speed and fire power. ah ah. it's designed to blitz the enemy released the smoke bombs and disappeared. the crew tells me this amphibious infantry fighting vehicle has already met its match in the dumbass. apparently american bradley's from the most recent shipment already here. when did steve of show others about our new airborne combat vehicle?

the b m. d 4 is an excellent machine. works like a dream. of course the caliber pleases me. it is good against large clusters of opponents and strongholds against light vehicles. and it's also good against bradley's. it has excellent speed and low fuel consumption. the machine has proven itself, especially on the front lines and has a high rate of fire. the ability to shoot from close positions. we use the b, m, d every day, send greetings to our opponents and do not let them relax on moscow has been repeatedly calling on the west to stop military shipments. stop the escalation. all russia will have to match it. this i, if the is only one example of russia's new weapons deployed to the, with the attack. brand new t, 90 tanks lurk in the woodlands. drones sure. in the skies, faster and more powerful missiles had ukraine's infrastructure. d behind the lines . but the power of rushes biggest and most lethal weapons so far has only been

unleashed a grill sites. i'm a good done of reporting from the dumbass r t. now to africa, where us secretary of state entity blanket is set to visit u p. a and niger has a bind in ministration hopes to strengthen its interest on the continent. the trip is a 4th high profile visit by us officials to africa this year, and will mark the 1st time us secretary of state visits niger on the agenda, discussion of counterterrorism efforts in this whole region and planned for greater partnerships and economist fan political analysts. we spoke to believes that the significance of the african continent on an international scale. 1 is increasing daily. i think it's primarily, i mean, the last 30 years his mind 90 want this union call are ordered fishing for africa.

it was just ignore on the backyard. you know, you can see also, you know, from trump's speech and so on. so. but now the significance of to harness last week in particular, where it is a busy day by day. there's also been a conflict in the tube. and so you know, some how the u. s. was involved in brooklyn's and deal. so i think, i believe one of the things that china is competing on, even in america, 14, in american territory, which is not encouraging africans to the sport, to try and touch 3, which i recently that make, you know, stopped this privilege for which is a keep a lot of people, the people working in texas, that industry and that's all for now. be sure to check out our t v dot com for all the latest. great news. an update. we'll see you right back here at the top of the hour. ah

ah ah, ah hello and welcome to crossed out. were all things are considered. i'm peter live else, there are more calls for cease fire or some kind of negotiated settlement of the ukraine conflict. some ne to leaders have warned zalinski will have to make some difficult decisions. however, the west has little interest in russia's plan to restore the peace. that plan is in plain view. ah discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel leon,

budapest. he's a podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and in st. petersburg, we crossed to alexandra tom. he is a senior lecture at st. petersburg, state institute of technology. our gentleman crossed up rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. i will start out with george in budapest, george, as i said, to my, my introduction, the whole focus of in the western world on this conflict in ukraine is to somehow get it settlement that is the preferential to ukraine. and of course, to which it's nato backers. and, but if, if you flip the coin, i think you, it would be much easier to resolve this conflict if you took russia's interest into consideration. and then it's never done. and that's one of the problems in moving forward, because if there is, if there is no needed there, there is no recognition of a legitimate security interest. this is not going to end. well, it's good again, it's going to and very badly, i think for all parties involved. go ahead there. you summarize it. perfect,

peter. i this whole whole conflict started. i said, because russia security concerns have not been addressed full around 30 years, but more more pertinently, the last 8 years, wild nato, you know, as his boast was building up ukraine as a battleship director, russia. and then, of course, when a president, putin issued his to draw documents for some sort of a permanent security architecture for europe along the lines of the helsinki, final like of leave 970 as the americans. and then, of course, nato just simply say that we're not, we're not interested. there isn't going to be any kind of a settlement unless russia security concerns are taken into account. and yet when one reads of the media accounts and one on reads, all the stories, well that,

that shows to macro pushing zelinski about what give us one good counter offensive . and then once this counter offensive, you'll succeed, then we'll be ready to negotiate. i mean, they know that you can't negotiate anything until you understand the position of the other party and, and that's why the whole western position is so ludicrous and this, this war cannot be settle. unless the wes simply realizes that he has to take into account what started this whole thing, namely russia, security concerns. yeah, ela center in st. petersburg. is it one of the things i find very tragic in it's, it's kind of an impoverished way of thinking is this is georgia said no give, it will give us one good offensive, you know, call back some territory. then we'll sit down and negotiate is if russia be willing to do that, ok, assume that russia would do that if they were asked for because that the problem in

a way they approach from the west, which is very, very poorly thought out other hemorrhaging russia, which is probably one of the, probably the most important issue they had had. this has nothing to do with ukraine . but even if, if there was even a unilateral cease fire on the part of the ukrainians, the, the nato countries would do is just, you know, rebuild of cranes forces to start all over again. and there's no same person in moscow would allow that to happen because they want 3 years. oh, make a built up ukraine and then we had this. ok, why would they wait another 8 years? why even wait, 8 weeks. go ahead. alexander. i think part of what we're seeing from the west, as we've talked about before, is that there is a split in the u. s. lead between those who support continuing this adventure and ukraine and continuing to fund the effort and arm the efforts. and those who are seeing that they're not going to accomplish the west goals. so one thing that i

thought was pretty interesting recently is cameron hume, who was a former ambassador from the us. he had come out recently criticizing anthony blink and the secretary of state for his handling of international relations, particularly regarding russia. so i don't think that the sort of commentary is just random. i would think that somebody with connections like that a human has connections with the council on foreign relations. so it looks like he's part of this effort from some people in washington to say, look, we're not accomplishing western interests in the ukraine. so does it make sense to continue pouring all this money and all of these resources into it? and i think it's a really good point that lincoln is, is he's not so much of a diplomat in the traditional sense. he is more of an ideologue and

a political operator if you look at his career history. and that comes out in the way that he handles himself on the international stage. so he goes to meetings with the chinese and tries to chide them about what they're doing. and he goes in to meetings with the saudis and criticizes them on their internal affairs. and he is really not making any friends with his attitude on the world stage. so he's weakening the position of the u. s. and i think that some of lease in washington are starting to get fed up with this really narrow minded, extreme push to continue trying to fight this war in the ukraine regardless of what outcomes we're seeing on the ground. yeah, i mean like the church it's allison brings up some very good points here. but again, lately the strategy there you can even call it a strategy. it's more kind of a messianic crusade, ideologically driven, they again, lately the,

the entire approach, the u. s. in its allies have pursued as it, it's an anti russia policy. it's not a pro ukraine policy again, the way you, you know, if a supposition is performed badly, you're always going to get a bad outcome. and this is what this is. what's happened in this case? yes, that, that, that's unquestionably the case. it's so it's all, it's not really about ukraine. i mean that, that's why we need, we need to sort of move away from any kind of discussion. this is about helping ukraine. this is an effort to arm you brain or anything of it. it isn't about your grade. this is a, a war using ukraine as a proxy in order to defeat, once a, for all russia, with it, with the hope that somehow you know, put in will be gone. you'll be overthrown. and some kind of a pro, western puppet regime will take over in moscow. and then essentially, you know, whatever's left russia will be entirely at the mercy of native, that's the ultimate objective. and people such as a blinking and,

and biden unusual. and, you know, that's how they think that's their ideological perspective, and they're not just going to let it go. and that's why, you know, of course, no rational voices will say, well, i think that doesn't make any sense as a ludicrously ambitious goal, but cannot succeed. but if people like that had prevailed at the beginning, we wouldn't be where we are. you know, russia would have accomplished its goals very early on last spring and would now be enjoying a peaceful, secured prism. we don't have that. instead, the, you know, the, the united states decided to make a stand here. and that's why where we are. and i think that's why it's such a dangerous situation because it's very difficult down for the united states to step up. alex and it's very interesting a, you have to look at the, the, the sense of causation years. because there is been over the last couple of years, not an original idea,

but russia and china moving closer together. this has been going on for a long time. people suddenly wake up to it here. and so the, the policy is we have to knock russia out. we use ukraine, we're going to knock them out before they get too close to china. well that, that horse left the stable barry long time ago. and now with this proxy war and ukraine, it's only accelerated, a, b, and b kind of constituting an alliance of russian chinese alliance. i mean, they, they misunderstood what was going on. and their actions of actually created the opposite that they wanted. it was under. yeah, that's absolutely true. i think on the international stage, you have to look at china and russia as being one entity effectively because they're both being encircled by nato forces. and neither of them like it naturally. so when they see what nato can do, the break up, the former yugoslavia being involved in afghanistan, iraq, libya,

the list goes on and have a good reason to not be happy about that. keep going and economically, your point is well taken by chinese investors who have been pulling their money out of swiss banks because they're concerned that they're, you know, their resources may be frozen in the same way that a russian assets abroad were frozen by the us. so the u. s. as kind of overstepped over played at hand. it's been so aggressive and pursuing it or against russia that they spoke the rest of the world. people don't want to do business with a bullying regime like so. that's also been shown by recent reconciliation efforts between iran and saudi arabia hawks that took place recently in china. and that's also very significant because here is china stepping into the middle east to try

and brokers some agreements between parties that historically do not get along very well. and that also is going to have an effect on the situation in israel, because israel and saudi arabia for a long time have gotten along pretty pretty well. and saudi arabia has refrained from criticizing their actions too heavily. so now when i ran and israel or enemies, so with saudi arabia and iran attempting to re establish relations that doesn't look good for israel's influence. and there are russian forces and syria, which are providing a check against israeli attacks on, has below, or iranian targets in syria. so as the u. s. and the us ability to influence the situation in the middle east is declining. it's causing a decline and israel's influence in the region as well. so to some actors in the us, and in israel,

it may look like the only way out of this spiral that they're finding themselves in is to push ever harder on what's going on in ukraine. maybe they think that if they can break the rush military then they can trigger like i said, the st george many times in our podcast. i always get the sense there in the casino, and that's where they just keep rolling the, you know, fitting the wheel and seeing the winning number will come up. ok. you know, george, we have a minute before we go to the break. what is it? it's 10 rounds, 11 rounds of sanctions, didn't work the 1st round and why? what if it doesn't have the impact you want? why do you keep hunkering out? it doesn't make any sense to me. george question, to the case weight. they think that they keep doing it, and eventually they will the call a point at which russia will collapse just like they, russia will supposedly collapse militarily or russia will run out of misses and artillery shells and the soldiers will mutiny or the russian government will collapse and will be overthrown. and so the,

the russian economy will collapse and i'll be shortages even though they were over the u. k. media reporting, you know, the contrasting the empty shells in the supermarkets, in the u. k. with the fall, a supermarket, the rock as i'm her sanctions and we're the ones who don't have a sanctioned in the in. but i do, i have to go to a hot breaking up to that hard break. we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our team. ah, ah ah. well connect across that were all things are considered. i and peter labelle, this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real things. ah

. let's go back to georgia in budapest, george. i sent him an introduction that rushes a plan for restoring pieces in plain view and we go back to december 17th, 2021. when a rush is sent to nato and to the united states. um, it's proposals basically recognizing the individual indivisibility of, of security, nato expansion and rushes, roll rushes place in the pan european, a security architecture, which of course is all kind of down going back to the original thinking about security of to the helsinki process, which you've already brought up in this program that's, that's viable. i don't think that's going to change. it hasn't changed even after a year of conflict. george? no, that's right. i mean, because what are the russians was seeking was some recognition of from the west

that what the west has been doing for 30 years. this nato expansion essentially creating this block, this military block that is clearly surrounding a russia and is to target that of russia, that this cannot go on, that russian just simply cannot accept military alliance on its borders. on the, those big b o a particularly that alliance a has, is targeted russia as their primary recycling. they explicit about their explicit or then, you know, particularly when we've had the past decade of this constant barrage of anti russian propping gan, the old, the sanctions, the sanctions didn't stop. you know, after that, the, the launch of the special with the choppers, with had all the magnet ski ag sanctions. we had all the sanctions about. suppose it russian interference in u. s. elections in the been wave of the wave of sanctions. and russia sees this military alliance is moving towards our borders. you know,

the one country that is set as our ally, bella ross, is the conn's, some targets of would be colorado solutions. they want us to be totally surrounded by nature and rushes. i, we can't take this anymore. this is an absolutely exist central for us. and, you know, west responses. we're not even going to talk about it. you know, russia just isn't strong enough to dictate sounds to us. well, you know, this, this was the effects and although the europe there, right, any kind of a negotiated outcome will have to recognize that you can't let nature cannot go on as it's been doing because it will be more was and they'll be even more deadly. was intending george competed up really well because if the west is obsessed with, again, it's ideologically obsess. democracy topper, see all of this kind of nonsense that they throw out. and then they talk about

ukraine's security. and it's relationship with the north atlantic treaty organization. they're focused on ukraine's borders. it's security. but he can't, it can't. at the same token, they can't recognize that russia missing right here. and that's where that is keeping any kind of settlement far out of reach. because up until they recognize russia have security interests. there's going to be no peace in europe. i think victoria new and also recently just admitted that the conflict in ukraine is about the stabilizing the russian government and trying to remove from power. so this, you know, the talk about ukraine and territorial integrity that i would consider to be just wallpapering for their real motives, which are clear enough even before noon said anything about it. it was all directed against russia. so it seems that whatever portion of your train is not taken under

the control of russia, that's going to effectively be a part of nato. whether it's admitted officially or not. in some sense of the russian attempt to remove nato from its borders through this war has failed. because now we do have an, an nato army in ukraine. and it's difficult to get figures on it, but there's up 220000, perhaps mercenaries, maybe 10000 of them from poland. the number is very all the time. so in that sense, russia is going to have to, if they can't find a diplomatic solution that actually removes nato from ukraine, then they're going to have to keep going further and further west in order to achieve their goals of removing nato's presence from that territory. however, i also wonder, you know, this is turning into a time issue for the u. s. it seems to me that russia is able to continue this

war indefinitely. while the us seems to be running more on a schedule, because already the u. s. is stretched between the ukraine front and the taiwan front weapons manufacturers are several years behind delivery and taiwan isn't getting the weapons that they have ordered. so the u. s. is getting stressed and nato partners and partners are not completely happy with the situation due to the economic issues that germany has suffered in particular with energy prices, the u. k. has been hit with energy prices going up. and this is all a result of the sanctions and the ongoing war in the you and the ukraine. and the u . s. isn't letting us partners out of this situation, so it's putting pressure on nato much more. i think it's putting pressure on russia . well, you know, it's a very interesting point, georgina,

and i've always said that nato was never, never designed actually, to fight a war like disappear power. ok, it was a, i'm in georgia, i read older. it was always kind of it a bit of a dinner club. ok. it wasn't designed to do actually be a military. and in a, in a conventional sense. it was more political and, and this is what they faced georgia. let's talk about the issue of d. i d notification because that's the the 2nd prong that is have been never really been discussed much in the west. they just think it's frivolous. but you and i know exactly what that means. the recipe regime change. you cannot have the current regime still in power. ok, and that is something that i'm on the west is going to have to contend with. and certainly mr. zalinski is going to have to contend with. because we all know that anyone in ukraine in power make some kind of concession, large concessions, number of concessions. um, they're, they're not going to be around much longer after they do that. and we know that go

ahead. george. yes that's, that's exactly that in russia's goals out while they were limited back in august of february, clearly now has to include regime change in care because i cannot allow this zelinski gang, this rabidly raso phobic a crowd to stay in power. i mean, what, you know, what happens, let's say there's an armistice as a, some sort of a peace agreement. they will immediately start really. we know that's exactly what nature is going to do. i mean, they're going to do what they did in 2014 and just restart this all over again in 510 years time. so russia has to make a drastic change. and i mean, and that's open all this. i mean, whenever america has sport is, was america's always pursued regime change in, or whether it's a regime change. you saw the regime change in iraq. i mean, they publicly called for, you know, bus or us at us to go. i mean, it's ultimately, that's how you win the war. you have to remove the source of your problems and,

and in this case, clearly, you know, this is these landscaping. now they come in this new plan, which is that we will, we will call russia russia anymore. we just call it basco via you called allow this hysterical a entity like this, you know, you know, which bum, there is stand on your borders. so it regime change has to be out of the ultimate war objects. if it doesn't, alexander assist, mystifying for me. i can understand zelinski is in his regime there, russo phobic attitude because they have nato at their back of the funding. so keep protecting us. there's no downside but, but the longer this goes on, the entire european security architecture is very unstable. it's very vulnerable and of course, you know, there are people like victoria new and,

and jake sullivan. and the blinking that they have a very long history of wanting to see the end of the russian federation. and this is called the stuff that you can learn, but you know, what about the people in the rest of europe? i mean, this is not their crusade. okay. it's that is a crusade of elites in a very specific group of beliefs. go ahead. alexander. yeah, you're absolutely right about that. i think it recently came out how in march last year, just after the russian counter attacks in don boss and in other parts of the ukraine . lensky wanted to actually negotiate. and he was hoping to, you know, find a diplomatic solution to this right at the beginning. but the state department came in and the u. s. handlers came in and said, no, you can't do that. we have a war to fight here. so it's quite clear that the ukraine has become an apparatus, the state department in the same way that the e. u is as well. we all remember,

newland call that was league where she was describing her disdain for the you. and i think you can only do that if you have effective control over the organization. so that's the problem that europe finds itself in, effectively a protector. it of the united states, regardless of what nato may call itself, or how it may brand itself, the you find itself trying to itself and a protector position. so it doesn't have the ability to lead an independent policy. and that's been seen by germany, germany, his interests are within tighter economic cooperation with russia. and that's how we got the north stream pipelines. and that's not in the interest of a us protector. it. and that's how we got the north stream pipelines destroyed as seem. workers came out with his studies of how about probably happened and

indicate that the u. s. was involved, which doesn't really surprise anybody. you know, you had bite and going out there saying we're going to end it and we're almost out of time. but george, you know, sergeant schultz is we put referred to him on this boat, him link to washington. what for like a day and a half, maybe less than that one hour visit with the president, the united states. no press coverage, went back. so he was just giving his marching orders. wasn't he 30 seconds george market as well. that's the thing. europe. the lease is not in any sense representative of your own interest. it's an american bought and paid for trained lead and they represent openly, america's interest. well, you ended the program almost exactly on time. one thing we're going to be definitely looking at as of, as mentioned here, is that this reproach, most of saudi arabia and iran, which is very, very important. so viewers, ross, like we'll see that next week as all the time. i want to thank our guests in st.

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