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hello and welcome to cross hock where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . china has performed a master stroke of diplomacy. it is broker in agreement that we'll see a ran and saudi arabia again reestablish diplomatic relations. just could be a step not only to reorder the middle east, but also usher in an air of stability in the region. today, washington is the odd man out. i cross sucking peace making, i'm joined by my guest, muhammad mirandi intern. he's a professor at the university of throne in beijing. we have andy mock, he is a senior research fellow at the center for china and globalization and in brussels . we cross to piri manual tollman, he is a lecture at lee all university, or a gentleman, cross hoc rules in the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i would appreciate. let's go to andy 1st. in beijing, it's an amazing story,

a master stroke of diplomacy. like i said in my introduction, we could see a reordering of the middle east and bringing stability there, which the western powers are about only instability for the last 50 years. so it's an amazing accomplishment. but it, how confident are you that this, this of arrangement will hold? water will move forward because you do know that there are many enemies of this a gambit and it will be tested. go ahead, andy. no, that's absolutely true, peter. so 1st of all, thank you for having me on. i think that this is a milestone. it is a breakthrough, but it is only a 1st step. and as you say, there are many, many challenges on the road ahead and yet i think it is cause for optimism and hope as while he said, this is a victory for dialogue. this is a victory for peace. and we know that peace loving countries all round the world to support this. and countries that are more committed to violence and warfare do not

. and we have to see how things are ultimately play out. but again, i think it's cause re norma's optimism and hope today on that note, i'm home and in toronto, what are your thoughts? i mean, you've been on this program since its inception, and we have talked about how western meddling in the middle east has caused. so much tension bloodshed and dis, outright disaster for the region. this is an amazing step forward. western media is never giving it to the, the, the coverage it deserves here. because it works so much against their narrative. mom and your thoughts go ahead. we have to remember that a bit over 3 years ago, the saudis sent a letter to the iraqi prime minister at 2 as a part of a process to bring about rapprochement and the general. so the money right, travel to baghdad, to,

to meet the prime minister at 8 am to discuss the letter to find a solution between iran and saudi arabia. and he was murdered by trump. so after that, after that crime a while a bit later, the iraqis again tried to facilitate some sort of dialog, dialog began between iranian and so the officials, there was some progress, but they didn't go all the way. so what happened was the president, she, when he went to saudi arabia, in discussions with saudi leaders, a spoke about a mediation, and the before president re sees a recent trip to beijing for the state visit. the chinese want to ask to see if the writers were ready for them to mediate if they would

accept chinese mediation and be ryan's during the talks in beijing, the iranians, the running president accept it. after that, we saw intense negotiations in beijing, which a while back a week ago. and the results are that the 2 countries iran is saudi arabia will be star ties and that goes against interest of the united face. and israel is and sadly, many in europe who do not even understand what their own interests are. yeah, with america, it's very interesting. i was looking at some of the fine print that has been released here. and it fundamentally, it is to respect each other's sovereignty. that something that doesn't come out of western capitals any more. ok, respecting each others, each others are sovereignty. even when there are many, many problems still to meet need to be resolved. let's go to piri manual in paris. you know, when i, when i was reading a accounts of this story,

when it was being broken, you know, what thought came through my mind is ok. so as 1956. and this is, i think on that level here and to remind our audience last, the french and the, the british took over the suez canal and the us said, get the hell out of there. if you have no, you're violating sovereignty here. and that was the end of the british and french in the middle east. from that time forward, i think what basing is done. an extraordinary accomplishment is, is a $56.00. so as moment go ahead, pare manual. i think you're right. this is reflecting a change in the geography or older, a girl by lever, especially v for he crises in ukraine, where a be behind the cross is in ukraine. you have a rising confrontation between the united states on russia of cools. but also

potentially between united states and china and in means a girl by an eager, but are many t auto between power serv, influence zones, county are, are subject to, to disturbing musician to fragmentation and come to our tour of war. it can be bouquets of, of coca, most of santa and asia overboard cons. but ukraine of cool. so sanchez center on eastern europe and also middle east. and i think the saudi, an iranian the relies that in the soup arising confrontation between or a u. s. and dirge, dinah, and russia. morris on the other side, are they your they will be the loser of a situation if they go at war a travel between saudi arabian iran. and this is a way to, to avoid, to become a,

to our talk of action. like in your group, for example, i think those or so m m and of a factor is votter or sonya robbie. i would try a promo to regime change in syria of corso again. so iranian untrue us and her, this succeeded weaver, russia, and the, basically a bull all we for, we've are russians and do a saudi arabia. so, abandoned is regime change. policy on relies, but the united states on european st cannot anymore or insurance or are in a major way or meet at least and do they. yeah, well i mean apparently he, well, with the reason i agree with you because the, the, the, your american european position has not brought peace to the region. okay. it hasn't,

it's a matter of fact, it is sabotaged piece for decades in the region. and that's why we all should welcome beijing's gambit here. andy, let me go to you. i mean, what's, what's really important about this and, and western audiences are not going to be told us. that's why i'm telling anyone that's watching is that china is not taking sides. see the u. s. always take sides and says it's a mediator, which is absolutely nonsense. okay, that's what makes it so it's the beauty of the deal if it works. but that's the beauty of it. china is saying we are a real, honest broker andy. no, that's absolutely correct. and i think not only does the us take sides by it, actually manifest a very arrogant and narcissistic view of the world in that it is looking to promote what it calls democracy, quote unquote universal human rights. which really is just a very narrow, parochial view of the world and impose that on the rest of the world through its

efforts. and i, your recently tweeted that, so the problem with the american leadership is it's dubious character and even more dubious motivations. and we see that china is, is foreign policy. as you mentioned, it is founded on mutual respect and respect for sovereignty. and i think it was long e also that said i eat country must be free to choose its development past. and i think it's for this reason that countries why koran, like saudi arabia, like russia, like ukraine, are willing to work with china because they do recognize that china does not have this arrogance or this narcissism, but indeed, is trying to make the world a better place a more peaceful place, you know. mm hm. and, you know, they, they, it's no secret the differences between around and saudi arabia. but, i mean, i, i respect both for coming to the table and talking about sovereignty and security.

you can disagree on a lot of other things, but those are the 2 most important things. and it shows a lot of courage on both sides and on the side of china because it's not going to be easy to do. they're not, they don't have hard power to enforce anything, is their good will and their soft power. that's the difference between china now in the west today. go ahead mohammed. i think there's also another element as well. and that is that the united states is being seen increasingly as growing weak, but also the united states is being seen as indifferent towards its friends and allies. when the americans withdrew from afghanistan, honest. and they dumped their friends and allies and countries like saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, and others across the world took note of that. and while the iranian showed negotiations were taking place in beijing last week,

we saw georgia and the event in georgia. and how a government and parliament that is friendly to the west, right. and no ally of the russians how it was severely attacked by americans and the europeans. simply because they wanted to impose their sovereignty simply because they were not 100 percent obedient and the saudis take note of that even being friendly to the united states does not mean that you're safe and secure from the wrath of the americans. and nate, you are gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on peace making. stay with

a when i would show the same wrong when all just don't the rules. yes. to see out the same because the aptitude and engagement equals the trail went to many find themselves. well, did we choose to look for common ground in the welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered?

i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing peace making the okay, let's go back to brussels up here in menu. well, i keep stressing piece, making here and with reproach me out of the saudis and the iranians. we have the possibility of finally bringing peace to yemen. and i think that's an important part of what, what the derivative outcome of this piece process could be. and that would be something that would be i absolutely need it, obviously for the people of the m and, but could diffuse other conflicts in the region which have been stoked again, i'll say by western powers for decades. so this is a, an opening, an opportunity to end to conflict that is drawn on way too long. go ahead in brussels. yes, that's right. this is a no printing but are really good us, you? oh, good me implemented because as you said,

we are many open answer to this or to was dieter or i think there was, wasn't of a facto who we didn't mention is that to the united states. wanted to put pressure on saudi arabia to or on the oil prices, or, or to, to a bicycle shade to punish russia elsewhere. and are the saudis refused or sold because a don one or a u. s. t, with too much leverage on the on prices. and or, or so, or, or the europe, the rising of, of asia as her as power broker. we've, china, is not only are v are action of a single country, china, but so, so, and i tell not to, with the globalization which is emerging. we version guy, corporation organization, right? for example, and old as yet you countries like to join because,

or is not dominated by western institutions, may need a u. s, but also member says in your upper u. k. france or germany. and are they like to reserve real problems and will peacefully, with balance of power and not leaving a western institution were created by the us and on your parents. like, you know, united nations, which is many in a western good opposition and are, are china, of course is taking the lead in the so i'm not sure globalization, eurasia, and we are going to see if this will lead to over opening an resort ocean of conflicts between also or china and pakistan, for example, right. we've noticed about pakistan, west happy or so with his deeds. so he can, they are in effect a heck and can have a car. they can have

a demonstration effect for the entire entire region. and far beyond is go back to andy and beijing in beijing is on kind of a piece making tour. i mean, and had a 12 point program for ukraine. again, western capitals. oh, dismissed it out of hand. they probably didn't even read it. ok, let's be honest. okay, and now we have this breakthrough out with saudi arabia in rent. i mean, this is the world is beginning to pay attention. there are some countries that are use their military leverage to divide countries to start cover colored revolutions and whatnot. and beijing as a disinterested partner, i mean, you know, they, they have equal distance from the, from the partners that are negotiating. and that is a, that is a demonstration effect that the world can look to. because the world is become extremely unstable with nato's war against russia and, and we've seen how the global south or the global majority as i like to call it, is reacting. so we're an inflection point here. i think andy, we absolutely are,

and i think i was want to go back to quick that was made earlier that china is an honest broker, and it does rely on moral suasion. but that is not enough train. it also brings, i think, some very important material advantages to the table as well. so of course, china's market for oil is important for saudi arabia for iran, but also china's ability to deliver high quality complex infrastructure projects with a brit talking about 5 g or a more traditional types of infrastructure ports, et cetera on time and on budget, are very valuable incentives that compliment, i think it's honest broker status and it's because of this that we are seeing this example effect. and i completely agree with you peter, that the,

the world deeds great examples needs to be inspired. and, ah, you know, hopefully the good guys are winning. and the warmongers, the people that engage in subversion interference in other countries affairs. i will start to are you to diminish? yeah, it is a i agree mohammed. they're also in the fine print here. is that on saudi arabia with it's kind of tango with the israel. and the abraham accord, so called, which i think is just an excuse for the us to stay in the middle east and there ply into minions in the, in the, in the region. but the, the, through this process of mediation is that study ravia has to, for our 1st recognize a independent palestinian state, which is inc. again putting it back on the agenda where the west so conveniently likes to forget about it. go ahead moment. yes, the, the united states would like to see divisions in the region as many as possible.

and the, the objective of the united states is to have the israeli apartheid regime have domination over the neighboring countries. and it's quite interesting that these talks and the agreement between iran and saudi arabia, in beijing, it almost comes at the worst possible moment for the united states. and israel is on the one hand, you see a extremely right wing government empower in tel aviv a government that even it's western allies are having difficulty or not criticizing. they don't, they don't traditionally criticize the regime, but it's becoming so bad that even the in the united states you see criticism of the, of the current regime, the, that in yeah, regime. and that is the behavior of israel right now is making

it increasingly difficult for countries in the arab world, among others, to maintain ties with the regime. so it, it actually, this rock roche mom with iran mate puts the saudis in a much better position with regards to american pressure to move towards israel. and it makes it, and it marginalizes israeli regime even more. so it works to iran's benefit and further marginalizing the regime. and in addition to that, the united states benefit from all these divisions. it sounds weapons is able to yeah, us fort worth. we know that the genocidal warren yemen was given a green light. i mean, the americans gave the saudis a green light, obama gay, so he's a green light. carry out to initiate the war. it came roughly during the time when we were in vienna for the j. c, p, o, a nuclear negotiation. so the americans,

they lose the military, industrial complex loses money. there's railey regime becomes more marginalized and the united states, which is already on the decline, has further difficulties in the region. and now we see this banking crisis in the united states. nothing is looking good for the americans, whether in west asia, west asia or across the world, you know, on piri manual, you run it up earlier, which i think is really fascinating. and you know, andy is also an expert in globalization. but there are, there are multiple globalization is going on. the, the one inspired by the west is broken down. it's failed because it doesn't serve everyone. but we now have in asia, we have some of the most important countries you mentioned pakistan. iraq is also part of this here. you know, it took a long time, but i've always said my program here. if you give the, the players in the region with outside interference and outsiders choosing sides.

and having a broker like china come in, not choosing sides. and not completely disinterested care of building infrastructure. you make money. i agree with andy's point there. but this gives globalization a new lease on life because it's reducing tensions. and that's what you need for a successful globalization. go ahead and brussels. yes, that's right. are actually good china, the promote, he so a suit con, road project and i turn achieve, we're western globalization because, or, you know, to states on your penalties, where are the masters of, for maritime or delays and do in case of conflict or, or china could be blocked on the, on the seas. so we need a needs a continent other approach shirts for its trade or so force agencies and do, at the same time. are russia also promot?

you great, or you raise your project, which is in synergy with china. but that's the same time connecting new with india to come to balance or so china, because even you've got on china are earth to giver in the, you know, in a non sued to good out to western powers out of a ratio video. so our competitors, but what we see there are between russia in china or pakistan or, oh, iraq and no you run, it's like a balancing power. yeah. and instead of trying to impose a unit, put our water is to accept merchant put our re key and to priority mean stability there, you know, and you have one more minute here. so we have the mediation at the behest of a beijing. we have a ukraine piece by what else is on the agenda? because i'm sure you watch western media,

china's are getting ready to conquer the world. you know, it's the, the contrast couldn't be greater. go ahead, andy. i think one very important point to mention is the decline of the dollar and the rise of the middle east, we see with seas trip saudi arabia, other countries in the read are now increasingly willing to use the un in settlement for oil. and i think this will have profound repercussions that will be reinforced by china's diplomatic initiatives in the region as well. a, also a, again, you know, i like the stress, you know, talking about now national security is, it comes about when you have sovereignty. and when you have free trade, you don't live in a world where you're sanctioned, because about quote unquote bad behavior. when the country that is sanctioning you is committing even worse behavior here. this is a, this is a segue out of this dead end that we've seen in the post more era. and i think where is this mediation between saudi arabia and iran is

a very good 1st step gentlemen, that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in toronto, brussels, and in beijing, and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are the see you next time. remember crossed up ah, ah, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're such orders that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. and the point obviously is to place trust rather than fear a job in with artificial intelligence. real summoning with

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