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restore christ was on the east of alberto so well, i'm sorry, movement this resume. insurance to a room is washing soda machine is more than yes. today, security service of ukraine use is not only the statistic methods, but also the ideology of the nationalist a with . 2 2 every week we tell you about whistleblowers from around the world, many of whom put their careers and lives on the line to speak truth to power. some countries protect their whistleblowers, others do not. but what happens when you are a journalist in

a country that has no protection for truth tellers, a country where even reporting the news may put you at odds with the government. i'm john curiosity and you're watching the whistleblowers. ah. hello and welcome back to the whistle blowers. i'm john kerry, aka the international federation of journalists, reports that 45 journalists were killed while doing their jobs in 2021. 33 of them were murdered in targeted attacks and places as diverse as afghanistan, syria, iran, and mexico. at the same time, $345.00 journalists were arrested and in was in last year just for doing their jobs . it's tough enough to be a whistleblower, and to report on waste, fraud abuse and illegality. but what is it like to be a journalist where freedom of the press is not respected and we're doing one's job is so dangerous. we're going to discuss this and more with our next guest,

congo based freelance journalist qu drum ali ro, kuda. thank you so much for joining us and welcome to the show cougar. how does a freelance journalist or an independent journalist protect himself or herself in a country like congo where you're often called on to report from conflict zones or on sensitive issues like mining labor unrest, or even threats to civil rights? to be history. ready you know, with your does indeed any, any contract we may need to be used for drugs because some be. ready you could be arrested or you without any supports and it's very this get liquor a for example,

make me i well, you still get us it, it is we have we, oh, we have to be a follow by communist governments. companies are also something you can just send you the message. it's very had a can say to put the specter is to ensure that you have received threats, warnings from the police and the government, and you've been denied access to do your job. how do you deal with something like that? how do you protect yourself and yet continue to do your job as a reporter? yeah, i remember the last states when anchor illustrates what it was in to. so that 15 i reports, i report i report some news about to about

a lady. 3 but i can just say there isn't one ah identity. what's about deb news when you go out to break, was it some built us from that pitch abuse? many let the odyssey. and after that i do an investigation with breasts. i just make somebody that you're working on. so i talked to selma. some people who differed it did that i asked them about about those stoked us and that's not not i get to many 3 and i eat lunch last month. i think in june went out to break a p, a here outbreak a coming in here. i got many problems. welcome that

bluetooth i. many times that give me credit when i shut that w 2 up, we can do that because at that fits so one bridge report that we does want you to read about what you see, things like that. it's pretty walk like, well, we don't pick up when there are several especially sensitive topics that you've reported on, including fighting in eastern congo between government forces and m. 23 rebels who are supported by rwanda. the congolese government has threatened you with the rest

because of your reporting. again, how do you protect yourself and continue to do your job? do you find yourself having to self sensor? for example, when you, when you look at your new risk, that's what we get to see if we got you with the rebel stuff. we are mostly up pretty even pretty and you see things like that. 5 you must be careful when you're watching it and now you have

a protocol. what is going good? interesting what it means of communication. that's the case. you risk respect, that's a portal. and i think that's cool. if you really, if you can get, you can use it, you are so you can walk, it could read what happens if god forbid the government arrests, you and you become one of those journalists incarcerated for doing his job. who is there to stand up for? you and for your rights in a country that's really not known for its protections for journalists, who do you turn to? is there international support, for example, for congress journalists. i'm a member of a city shall know that i missed the 1st one. i think i got some problem. i think

a statement about my arrested if i could arrest it or to a member for a race africa, it is there. but if you can, yeah, we have a bad day. i just need to re think what is happening. what's the problem of a local association of 10? i list here. what's the name is your to print, you know, not the list. i think if i go to problem, i think just up so maybe statement also i've had a social media or so i think it really did it. i want to call me or we just generally is then i just have a problem. yeah, we just use

a regular or so deck and see. okay, we can do like what we've been talking about. so all state governments, you're watching the whistleblowers, we're going to take a short break and then continue our conversation with congolese journalists. could ramiro stay tuned? 2 ah ah

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ramos 0. he's a freelance journalist in the congo covering some of the most difficult and controversial issues in the country for such outlets as the associated press are sions, france, press, and writers. good to have you back hydra. i wanted to ask you some of the, about some of the controversial stories that you've covered and what the response has been from the congolese government. let's start with your coverage of the conflict in eastern congo and the m 23 rebels. there are very few journalists in the region and you've written big stories. tell us about the response. yeah, i think have to do a box, a lot of, you know, get you on a lease working. yes. you, you are not allowed that deal with a get a seat or so

a. 2 i have just makes it government spokesman, government, how much less i'm local the local to get to put me on the east i i'm not allowed to talk with i think generally speaks my, my reports would not have a stroke because i'm not allowed to make some it we, we, we spoke, but i think i do not need to talk, but in this case, you have to talk to people. if people have to talk to governments, you have to talk to a local or local know, local. that's my report. not because of that to me or

for me and i think that's a really rough guy that you see my reports results, but a lot of people driven my reports every single day. but you'll be because my company doesn't say hello he a me to finish my voting up in 2 weeks. maybe it would be out and i think we see what i spent so, so it might not make something to tell us about some of the

challenges that you face in the field. what's it like, for example, to cover stories like the, the conflict in eastern congo or sexual assaults by united nations peacekeepers? what's the reaction when these stories are published and your name is on the bi line? you know, something like that. you need to know if i go to how many contacts are spokesman up with the new school when when the studies are out mainly by lead. 2 a good communication people spokes, mom, dad, just coming back to me just read you love you. you have said it might be something that i

missed, but a bit busy. so you know, my make good michael was the judge. and also sometime, yes, it will have a great job. thank you. many challenges, lake or so for example, i mean really, if i left to go home, i have to use like, because the road is been saved. i have to use a craft of way for unicef, a how to you have to go with a new school to go someplace like a half maybe challenge 1st

to prepare my my truck and also tell it a something you know, i can bridge it may have to do friday, if i said to have to play new york monday or tuesday, maybe maybe tenants walk as isn't it? to my friends of mine who are journalists, tell me that they stay as active as possible on social media so that if something happens to them, people will notice that they're no longer reporting responding. they say that this gives them a certain modicum of security. do you agree with that? i've noticed that you're active on social media as well. you know, as i did, i used to have to be only oh, so we have what's up i need to

share some news or so it's somewhat so, you know, today we have to make some as again i just, you have to be connected to the other day or so we, we have to be keep as actually yesterday mess. 2 up we have to be every day what is happening and also to follow up a some news on something which you could write. you've certainly not chosen an easy life. what advice would you give to other freelancer, independent journalists who are working in dangerous areas, are working on sensitive issues with little or no governmental support or protection? how can they protect themselves on the 1st on it can be in good

relationship. ways. when you have to be you have to have relationships with or late that's also to be following up. if some chance you have to go, what can i do to be safe and also to you to me if it's possible to have you needed to have a relationship with government governments think it had to do your walk to walk, walk. i'm going to reflect on because i think it will be good and

also a bit later when you hit the camera due to the way it just gets data i get i think that's you would not when you are way i think that's you are not good with people now you finally could or i wanted to ask if you cover stories elsewhere in africa and if so, what are the differences from country to country regarding freedom of the press and protection for journalist who's doing it right. and who's doing it wrong? i think this was it's not, it's not that someone is wrong or someone. 6

but, you know, people are all kind of believe how to, how to fully you know, when someone is, for instance, he would not want sound generally to make it was in news media, but when to talk about it. and then just to me, that's good news to respond to the news too, but that, but for me as a journalist, we have a we have one that

we have to following that to groups that to you. yes. but i can do that because then i just, i don't, i'm not ready to make some they did because i'm a journalist. we have to respect our no, i'm you know what, just when you beat 2, it's not it's dangerous. thank you to our guest. could romero, who is doing courageous things with his life in congo, and thank you for joining us on yet another episode of the whistleblowers. remember the words of martin luther king junior, who said, we must continue to speak out against all forms of injustice to ourselves. and to others, and we will set a mighty example for our children and for future generations until next time i'm john kerry aku. and this has been the whistleblowers. ah.

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