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civilians and past conflicts. the prime minister of palestine planned israel for being driven by an extreme racist policy. this comes just after one of israel's top officials said, there is no palestinian nation with coming to you live from the russian capital. this is our t international. i'm rachel blevins here with the top stories of the our welcome to the program. it is now day to the chinese president's visit to moscow, and both choosing pink and bottom marapoo and have wrapped up talks after signing numerous bilateral agreements. ah, the chinese president has praised bilateral ties between russia and china. as

though the 2 countries are guided by principles within the un charter, and they stand on the right side of history. death walk along the cedar chinese russian ties have gone far beyond bilateral relations over the last 10 years. and all of crucial and vital importance for today's world order and the fate of mankind are contacts and cooperation are advanced on the principle of friendship. a relationship is built on contributing to the progress of mankind were guided by the principles in the un charter and a day to an unbiased view were always ready for peace and dialogue. we firmly stand on the right side of history. i count on continuing close contact with president putin and on long term at china, russia relations. they say that came as the 2 leaders delivered comments after a bilateral meeting, where they reaffirm their strong commitment to each other's countries, both economically and diplomatically. ortiz, moran garcia, reports western efforts to isolate and to contain russia both economically and

politically. hit a wall to day. as the chinese leader came out and said that, not only was china happy about the rec, would trade that in our joys with russia at a $190000000000.00 turn over a year. but the little it'll increase that trade to a much greater figure by 2030, that is the plan voiced by vladimir putin and she, jim being of china booth came out and loaded where relations are right now. they're at a historic height. they said the best they've been in centuries more than that of vladimir putin and she jumping listed the various areas where they would work together, build on those relations. and they're pretty much everything, their culture, their trade business, financial services, as well as technology energy, and much, much more, both countries optimistic about the future. the chinese also brought with them

a plan, a plan. the piece below game stood. mooney is full, as we believe that many of the points of china's piece plan are similar to our views and can be taken in action for the peaceful settlement. when the western key of are ready to accept these. however, so far we see no willingness on their park. that may imprudent also during the press conference, told the audience that the various dignitaries, the delegations as well as the press that while he and she, jim ping talked, vladimir putin was, was brief. that the great britain and officials had announced that they would now supply depleted uranium rounds to the ukrainian military, the same depleted uranium that has been linked to countless deaths and birth defects, cancer in areas such as a rock where it has been used below, even used it for, but the u. k, as announced not only the supply of tanks to ukraine,

but also shells with depleted uranium. it seems that the west has really decided to fight russia to the last ukranian, not in words, but in reality, if all of this happens, russia will have to react accordingly. based on the fact that the collective west is beginning to use weapons with a nuclear component, all an old grand ambitious plans voiced by, by china, and by russia. the leaders of both, both saying that they stood for a multi polar world than that they would work to develop that world. and the various systems and bodies that govern it. a world based on, on rules and laws, in which china and russia will remain good friend. analysts say that president, she's visit to moscow test of i see the robust friendship and strategic partnership between the 2 countries. however, western powers have a long hand concerns about the alliance. nato chief suttonberg said china needs to

understand ukraine's side of the war and that president, she should contact president zalinski personally. it is for the right to decide what are acceptable conditions are really useful a solution or needs to store for design perspective i'm to gauge with i thought it was usable piece and ruling to remember us not been able to put the legal war origin white rashaw i gave you earlier, my colleague, worry sushi got reaction to the visit of the chinese president from a panel of gast, independent, political analyst alessandra bruno believes the world has tired of western dominance. political analyst alex report a fe,

believes that washington is being forced to play, catch up to china, while benjamin chaff from the center for china. and globalization says the west can't reject any peace plan for ukraine while still arming the country. i believe the world is it is changing, it's had enough of the, let's call it from what it is, western arrogance. and that will start to form their own alliances in response to the deployment of western alliances such as needle the existence of which still defies any logic because the better lines are supposed to fight communism and protect the west from the ideological spread and military spread. and it was countered by the war, so back it was promptly dismantled. and i think this one of the things perhaps,

that in russia they regret most. so i do think this could be the beginning of a resurgence of something along the lines of warsaw pact. but this time involving were moscow looks to the east rather than to the west, but it's it. but it seems allison, that many countries these days are looking more towards the east or even the global south, whether it be s c o s c and or the bricks as well. alex, i wanted to come to you because, you know, china, china's has come to moscow with a potential piece proposal for the conflict in ukraine. a john kirby of the us national security council. formerly of the u. s. state department, john kirby saying washington is not interested about a possible cease fire in ukraine, particularly if it's mediated by china. alex, why would washington be against ending the conflict? well, washington has their own role in this whole events that are taking part in the world . we've seen the collapse of their financial system over the last couple of weeks

here. that truly shows you the power that washington really has nowadays, which is not much they're used to ripping up agreements. they're into that apparently. and they're up to really know good on the international, worldwide, i would say diplomacy levels. let's look at what united states has done in the last year here. they have work, say it through proxy, funding to a ukraine to continue to push back russia. now, how are they funding it? they're funding it through the military industrial complex, which is one of the largest things in their annual budget every year in the united states. that's the 1st one. the other one is they just can't seem to grasp that they're better back build program that was brought in by the building a relationship, not is what the world is up against. and i think it's, it's quite challenging for the u. s. you talk about this modern day, phil grow essentially, that's what it is and all these different countries we're going to be doing this trade, whether by see buy, land by air, and it's going to be essentially national currency. so i know you make a very good point, alex, which i'll take over to, to benjamin child now, because how do you think, benjamin,

that the members of the bricks group of nations and i also african state? how do you think they perceive the beijing proposed a piece plan for you crate? obviously, western partners, a screaming no and saying in setting off alarm bells, your thoughts benjamin i think the audio writing power is global participants and we need to be concerned about the nature of the needs. now we are seeing trends in it. well, those, this portray can and those bids, so it can lead by the us that is showing a clear trend of equalization, which could turn back because it was worth a trade, an interest more segregated and we're always becoming a more serious um gain. nope. people for cops and we understand that, but it is quite unreasonable that the us now is open the asking people to check any

piece plans on ukraine as you raised right at these. no, there are currently at 40 african country leaders here in moscow seeking collaboration. yet we are seeing and other can be the exclusive cops in the name of democracy. coarsely russia, foreign minister says the actions of the west, which go against international humanitarian law, will not and well for them. that's in response to the announcement by the u. k. that it will supply depleted uranium ammunition to crane, which have last long lasting of devastated health effects and conflicts so such as iraq music. they've already lost all sense of orientation in their actions. and now those actions undermine the strategic stupidity of the entire world. first of all, these are the anglo saxons who are dragging the rest of the collective west with them. so who the imagined themselves as hedgeland's for a long time and want to maintain this had gemini, with all their might. this decision means that they are ready to take not just

risks, but to violate international humanitarian law. as was the case in 1999 in yugoslavia and much more. i wouldn't be surprised if that happens, but there's no doubt that it won't end well for them as little logo. earlier, my colleague worry, sir. she spoke with archie correspondent, steve sweeney. to discuss what this new by the u. k means. this announcement appears to be a very dangerous escalation, and of course it comes at a time when chinese president teaching ping has been in moscow talking about a peaceful solution to the conflict in ukraine. now, baroness goldie, as we've heard her confirmed that britain will send this alma piercing rounds which contain depleted uranium. this is part of the challenge a to tank package with 14 of them set to be sent to ukraine. and she made this admission name response to a written parliamentary question by the cross bench pay. lord hilton,

let's hear the statement alongside our granting of a squadron of challenger to mean battle tanks to ukraine will be providing ammunition including armor piercing rounds, which contain depleted uranium. such rounds are highly effective in defeating modern tanks and armored vehicles will cause russia has responded to this previously. and it said that it would regard the use of depleted uranium in ukraine as it dirty bomb. he is a reminder of what they said. if she ever supplied with such shells for nato heavy military equipment, we will consider this as the use of dirty nuclear bombs against russia, with all the and suing consequences. now of course, the use of depleted uranium remains incredibly controversial and it's her a gray area in terms of the legislation. now the united states used the depleted uranium perhaps most famously in the iraqi town of fallujah, leading to a rise in birth defects. her abnormalities, cancers,

miscarriages. and this kind of thing with a study saying that the rising cancer there was worse than that seen in her rossimer where of course the united states dropped an atom bomb at the end of the 2nd world war. now, i've spoken to medics on the ground there. i was there just last week and they said that there was, undeniably a causal link between the use of depleted uranium. and these are these birth effects and or other health issues. but they also told me that they've been pressured by the united states, not to speak out against her against this. now, i heard this many, many times. and of course a report the i just referred to was barely covered in the western press meeting. the scandal him for lucia has really been covered up. but here's what some of those on the grounds have said that a bad mom had a lover. we didn't expect our 1st child to be born deformed before the us invasion . children were rarely born with deformities and fellow j, maybe one or 2 cases out of a 1000 births. a year later,

we decided to have another baby, but the 2nd baby was also born deformed america. there was thick smoke in a strange smell after yes, forced a storm. felicia and we inhaled it. 18 months later, my baby was born in the 8th month of pregnancy, but die 10 minutes after he was born because he had lim deficiency. the doctor said it's not uncommon and advise us to have another baby. but our 2nd and 3rd children were deformed till when most he joined, and where doctor said it was because of delight plus france used by us forces. and felicia walked for joseph and my father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 2021. they told us that he is sick and feeling poorly. the reason is that felicia was a battleground from 2005 to 2013, especially in the district. we are living in. we are not the 1st or the last case, u. s. forces bombed the city here with white phosphorus and other weapons. now, of course,

it's not the just the u. s. nato admitted to dropping some 31000 uranium missiles during the 1999 bombing of yugoslavia. with more than $300.00 italian soldiers said to have died as a result of exposure to the material their company involved in a court case against that military alliance. now, some experts have said that the use of depleted uranium presents up major global threat. it's worth quoting, one academic study which described depleted uranium as the trojan horse of nuclear war. now it said the use of depleted uranium weaponry defying all international treaties will slowly annihilate all species on earth including the human species. and yet the united states continues to do so with full knowledge of its destructive potential. now, unsurprisingly, perhaps end that the u. s. along with france and britain have lead opposition to cold for a battle. the use of depleted uranium on the battlefield. our britain has quite absurdly absurdly,

perhaps claimed that her depleted uranium shells are no more radioactive than household appliances. while the u. s. has repeatedly denied a causal link between the use of depleted uranium and these illnesses and cancers and birth effects that we've heard about. and to admit otherwise would lead them open to potential war crimes charges. but the world health organization has also raise its concerns over the use of depleted uranium. let's listen in soluble, inhaled uranium particles, one to 10 micro meters in size tend to be retained in the lung and may lead to radiation damage of the lung and even the lung cancer. if a high enough dose occurs over a prolonged period. now the world health organization has carried out extensive research and extensive studies into depleted uranium, but some expert say that that body has also been pressured into you know, playing down the effects of depleted uranium. not this, of course is fueled those claims of a cover up,

and i think this isn't the 1st time that we've heard the concerns raised about the use of depleted uranium back in january. of course, the white house refused to confirm whether it was sending these ammunition tipped with uranium to use in ukraine. but what we can say about what's happening is it's a very controversial move and it could danger yes. a dangerous the escalate things in ukraine a time when others are talking about a peaceful resolution to go further in depth on this. let's cross, i have now to you, steve engaged professor at the institute of european studies and belgrade steven, it's great to have you on the program today. now we have this announcement by the u . k. russia has responded, do you see this as a new chapter and escalation and what can we expect to come out of it? essential. yes, i do see that. but essentially, this is an announcement of future war crimes and prolonged war crimes because even

24 years after the nato aggression against the federal republic of yugoslavia, thousands of people are dying. the official statistics said that the number of cancer, leukemia and other connected illnesses are 2 and a half times higher in serbia, montenegro than it you know, compared to the world average. also, the italian case was mentioned already up to 2021, 384 italian soldiers died. those are the soldiers that came after the bombing has ended. and after the nato troops entered, call somebody natasha. and even the families of those soldiers who died were given a half 1000000 euros each because the italian court has this have established a direct connection between the use of depleted uranium mostly in the american

aircraft in the ammunition they were using. and the ill a says this game afterwards because italian soldiers were apparently located at places where this was used the most also, let's not forget that the albanians who are supposed to be the ones that need to was protecting a, died in tens of thousands that there were literally thousands of cases every year of indians who are treating cancer and our illnesses, both in serbia and north, most of the own. yeah. so there is really a plenty of evidence of war crime actually. that is just devastating all around. and now speaking of what we know, as you mentioned, we know the health effects of using depleted uranium ammunition we know that they lead to long term health effects on civilians. so why does the west want to send this supplies? is this a version of a last resort to thank?

i honestly don't know what is the, what is the message message behind this? because i don't think that the use of the western military aid will change the war over all. of course, it will bring that. but i'm really concerned about is this vicious that we are facing now because depleted uranium is killing people years and decades after the actual facilities. and so. busy i don't know what is the motivation behind this? why would they want to contaminate the land? even let's say that really west wants the ukraine to flourish oper if the defeats russia, which is their problem proclaimed goal. so even if that's the case scenario, you will have people, if this weapons actually come to ukraine, and if it gets used, you will have people who will die because of these weapons. people who are going to

be born after the conflict and, and will have to face health challenges because of the use of these weapons. so i really think this is very mean, very vicious and i'll try this is an announcement of future war crimes. because nato has essentially committed genocide against both serves albanians and all the other communities that live in the balkans. by using this type, what i mean, and initially it was also used in bosnia a couple of years earlier. and as it was mentioned, it was used in iraq in libya as well. so all of these places have seen an increase in all kind of logical diseases. arthur, the conflict and or after the ammunition was used. and i honestly think that this is an evil that russian can only tackle via decisive victory. i'm sorry to say that, but i don't think there's another another way around this. yeah,

there certainly is a lot at stake care. professor stephen guy, it's thank you so much for your time and insight on this one. the europe, the adversary. that's how russia is now viewed by 2 thirds of people pulled across 10 european countries. the survey was conducted by the european council on foreign relations. so to go further in depth on this, let's cross live now to archie, contributor rachel mars. den rachel is good to see you. now. russia's not exactly viewed by europe in the warm midst of ways. is it well, the european council on foreign relations is a western back think tank. it's analyzed, recent data from british and european polling firms like you gov and data paxis and it's found the overall a majority of europeans in 9 different countries,

plus great britain. consider russia to be an adversary with which their own country is in conflict. now rushes in conflict with ukraine and more largely nato, but there's no direct arm conflict between european nations and russia. but the figures are highest in the baltic states like poland and estonia, but also in denmark, where authorities have really been playing up the russian fear factor since the onset of the conflict in ukraine to ram through defense policy changes. like, for example, an increase in defense spending to meet us a native demands and also the abolition via referendum last year of denmark, sovereign ability to avoid, to opt out of you defense operations that no longer exists since this conflict in ukraine and citizens with of many western european nations surveyed portugal, france, and spain that consider russian adversary while they're still in the minority. but the real story is how drastically even those figures have changed since 2021. just 2 years ago,

the notion of russia being an adversary in actual conflict with any you countries, was simply non existent. the strongest sentiment back then was in poland with 38 percent of its citizens figuring they were in direct conflict with russia. because, well, that's the movie that's always playing in the minds of some people in poland who didn't get the software update. publius century. so the big question is, why do so many citizens of european countries now consider russian adversary in conflict with their own country? while it might have something to do with the constant conflation of ukraine and the european union, all the talk we hear from you leaders about how ukraine is fighting for european values like corruption, press censorship. i guess the you even created a new entity last year called the you political community. that was a brain dropping of french president, a menu in mac hall. it's sort of a kitty table for you, cranium, president library zalinski as a consolation prize. so he doesn't pitch

a fit every 5 minutes for ukraine not immediately be included in the use adult table. so from there, it's just a short step from reasoning that, okay, rushes in conflict with ukraine. therefore, since ukraine is the e u, because of the same values, be on the front live in values and well, my country is in the you. therefore, russia isn't conflict with my country. the number of german citizens who see russia as an adversary has virtually tripled in 3 years from 23 percent to 61 percent. maybe it has something to do with german foreign minister. and alina barrack, saying that european countries are at war with russia before then, having to walk that comment back. still, german officials like the chancellor of the federal state of saxony, for example, continue to paddle the same kind of rhetoric. we're now directly involved in this conflict. i felt that this weapons deliveries is exactly what we should not have

done in order to be able to be more credible and active as a mediator and diplomatic actor. we put too much focus on weapons. now we need to take more diplomatic initiatives with americans, chinese indians and other big countries. european leaders are also constantly talking about the need to ramp up defense spending using russia as a pretext for diverting boatloads of tax their cash to their own. busy metairie industrial complexes following the u. s. model, it's a slippery slope that even has some officials worried like former italian prime minister, giuseppe conte. we were told that we would bring rochester sneaks with sanctions. then that mill through support would have been the way for a decisive victory. the truth is that step by step armaments of through elements. we are falling ourselves thoughtfully immersed in this war without all government and europe attempting to strategy to follow and negotiating path and arrive at

a be solution. ok, so there's no doubt that shifts in public opinion dictate the options that governments can pursue in any given situation. and it looks like european leaders through their militaristic rhetoric have effectively been able to manipulate european public opinion in favor of a greater tolerance for a prolonged conflict in ukraine against russia. hungarian prime minister, victor, or bon, is now sounding the alarm on the recklessness demonstrated by european leaders. unfortunately, europe is suffering from a psychosis of war. the continent is drifting into war day by day. it is important for the voice of peace to compete with the powerful voice of war. and it is important to make it clear that the global majority wants peace. if anyone might be wondering how it's possible to drift incrementally into war day by day, as or bon says,

you don't really need to look any further than the shift underscored in these polls in such a short amount of time. those ear values are ever changing, and not always for the better are taken to revere rachel mars. then thanks so much for your time and analysis and that's all for now. be sure to check out i t dot com for all the latest breaking news and updates. was he right back here at the top of the hour? ah, ah, what does it tell us about the state of relations between russia and china? it shoes, the chinese leader, she, jim ping,

attaches great importance to the sino russian strategic partnership. and her. as you know, we are in the world of uncertainty and even chaos, but a good and consolidated to sign the russian partnership will be a force of certainty injecting to this world of uncertainty. furthermore, bose china, russia now also called himself the civilization of states and is the leaders of 2 great civilizations. whereas he meets shows are, the chinese are happy, he rushes, i happy and we're certainly are. now during the year, during this visit,