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a robot most protective own existence with ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . the chinese president's visit to russia is historic for a number of reasons. first to accent, the growing russia,

china strategic partnership, and 2nd, to demonstrate what both countries publicly advocate the transition to a multi polar world beyond american hegemony. i cross sucking russia china relations. i'm joined by my guess, matthew errand in tokyo. he is a senior fellow at the american university in moscow and director of the rising foundation of canada. in hong kong we have and re lung. he is an international and independent china strategist. and in houston we crossed to robert whose alco he is a professor of history at the university of houston, as well as co host of the green and red podcast. i, gentleman crossteck, rules and effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate andrew, let me go to you 1st and in hong kong, you know, there's a very interesting juxtaposition, if you turn on american television, they're all wondering, of donald trump is going to be arrested later this week for. yeah,

hush money and things like that, or they're talking about hunter biden's laptop still. and as they're doing that, we have a world historic meeting going on here in moscow with the chinese presidents visit . i mean, how out of touch is the west when it comes to the burgeoning relationship between moscow and beijing? go head andrew and hong kong. well, i think that the west led by the united states is seized our by there, the mantra of a that the american lead as a so called liberal order a should to stay forever and led by american haitian many because the west is regard of is the best system, the world, it should be imposed on all countries. and the whole rivalry with china and, and russia is, is, is high to be

a contest between democracy and authoritarianism. so there was a lot of force rhetoric our explain why, because as of only about a few days ago, according to the latest research, by a paris based and independent research institution called the i, p. s. o s. looking at the happiness index of countries around the world as to what extent are people in different countries are few happy under their government? and guess what? china came on top and the number 2 is saudi arabia, where these 2 are not democracies, but yet there people have never felt happier than before. so this is because their lives of the as far as time is concerned and the lives of the vast majority of the people have been miraculously transform under the tutelage of the childish

communist party. but a possible yes. and this has been confirm also the support of the people of the government on for also by harvard kennedy school study a year and a half ago. and by the m l m n e l m a n trust barometer base in new york. so this rhetoric about a contest between democracy or call proceed and see the more democracy, democratic country in the world typify by the united states is the happiest, most successful country. as you just say, i mean, previous president donald trump is about to be arrested. come come, we also solve crimes and let alone so immoral acts. well, that's the whole point i was trying to make. i mean, there seems to be and you know what countries in think what countries are and think which ones aren't. ok. and let me go to a robert in houston. i mean, this is,

this is a very important event in the, with the backdrop of china is proposed a 12 point piece process for, for ukraine, just recently broker to deal between saudi arabia in iran. president assad visited moscow recently. there's a lot of things going on in the world here, and it's not necessarily in the west disease that is a threat to their had gemini, but a lot of other actors welcome this as a real a realignment to forces in the world. i mean, it's something a lot of people in the world actually embrace and i'm not afraid of. go ahead, robert. yeah, that's a key point. the media right now is covered the jeep meetings, but it's kind of research, see metal or rhetoric. and you know, i think that's when americans don't understand because we kind of get a very different approach to the word here from the media, which is very much basically kind of moral terms. but it evil and it's very simplistic. but the way that i think the rest of the work clearly she's differently

. so you have western united states, but that is presented kind of is the data. it's not only way we can get into and that's clearly not the case. so the united states waiting this war economically, especially against china, for about a decade or so now. and you still have the biggest economy of the world, the dollars still used for global as go currency, a manufactured lead on united states. the chinese are trading in asia with rush, all included with the united states for each trade bouts with us as well as lenders piece proposal along with the appropriate negotiation. saudi and iran show kind of get a sense of what's, what all of these ways. i'd say she's, it's a gemini, be child, she's my cheater. and so, you know, it's, it's kind of using the, wanting left of his pocket, which is to smash a robert budget. robert, don't you find it really interesting and said, you know, just on the,

in the last new cycle on fox news they were on the guest were talking about the loss of american hegemony. and i think it's so kind of out of sync again, let me go to matthew on this. is that of the world, this tired of american hegemony. that's why it's being chow into and that's why different centers of power of coming into being, particularly there's the strategic relationship between russia and china. it's really interesting how that they, the west always finds is threatening, but for other countries, particularly russia and china, they find it liberating to be done with american hegemony. it's really amazing. the different mindset here. go head matthew. yeah, no, absolutely. i mean, a anglo american i'll say anglo to say infuse a little bit of, i think her drama into the causal nexus of the post world war 2 age has been, has had 80 plus years to prove itself and demonstrates its security as the best of all possible orders, and what we've seen is just simply hundreds of regime change operations carried out

since most a day in iran and, and even in nicaragua before that and all the way up to the present order assassinations of leaders of different heads of state, including america's own leaders who tried to resist this internet, this deep state column built up inside of its heart. so you had a lot of time to prove that the system is the superior order and we've had libya. rach sirius, thrown back into dark age chaos. situations in the name of the democracy building of the rules based international order. and i mean, if you just read the chinese a globe both a global security initiative, but also the a, the, a u. s. had gemini and its perils, another document outlining its philosophy of how governance and, and especially on security, should operate back on february 21st and 22nd. it really lays out that look, the only thing it works is when, when cooperation and looking at points of. busy aberration which manifest in things like iran, saudi arabia on taunts the turkey syria relationship,

beginning to re heal slowly. right. did this work? africa we're, i mean, the development for africa works. and so i think what we see coming in with shooting things visit ha to russia has been a real hope for the 3rd world and everything. i only want to say the 3rd world, but the world it's been prevented from developing and become modern for the past. matthew, i refer to it is the global majority. and because that's exactly what it is here, let me go back to andrew in, in hong kong. i guess what really gets american foreign policy people upset is that china is proposing piece around the world, you know, brokering day, you know, saudi arabia and iran. you know, that that was a tough one to do. the united states was not in a position to do it because it's huge of sides. china didn't choose aside. that's why we have a piece processed their potential piece process. put it that way. go ahead, andrew. well, i think that, dan, it's your politics a lot. usually dictated by philosophies as this dictated usually about

a change of power. our power in them, you can all the power and to political power. and all of these dynamics are changing all the time. after the 2nd world war, of course, the only and largest and most powerful country. and i have been the united states and they were have been able to call the shots and, and they thought that, ok, i'm less bring china into this system. and so that, and any kind of for cheap goods can be outsourced to china together with the polluting industries. and then they read the best of the benefits. so sitting on top of the pile, without realizing that china, having joined the w t o as growing these economy, now the 2nd largest and is grown to be the world's largest trader. i had the united states and the largest manufacturer and, and the center of the supply and very chain and, and everything is always making always everything is making china,

you go to the markets and, and, and even if there are, there's not mark big in china, taurus, if embedded in, it's somewhere in terms of logistics in terms of components in terms of materials and so, and that's the reality. and then of course china now and seem to be eating american sluggish, no longer exporting only cheap goods, but also high technology goods. and in some measure it, let me jump in here when i get, i want to get robert in before we go to the bank that you, andrew brings up an interesting point. i mean, why does one country have to be number one? why can't there be a multi polar world? i mean, that's a, that's what the chinese and the russians are asking. why does, why, why do we need a head, human robber? know exactly, and especially for the last 30 years, the really guy status that you know, career all damaged and were that child, especially from china and you have a really great problem. global warming. you at just released another really dire

reports which are being set aside. this reserves, or rhetoric based on military aggression and special military power, massive defects by just because i think like i said that's, that's what the us, as long as it's, it's last major, you know, play, which is, you know, military power. i feel the weapons building miss out your webpage. base is all the tire basis overseas based. okay, robert, i have to jump in and we're going to go to a break here. but why is it being number one? have to be the military. why can it be prosperity or trade? i mean that with that is for quite some time i'm going to let you get an answer that when we get back from our break, generally we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new state with a

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all the independent journalists who pointed out that nato and the u. s. were directly responsible for initiating the military conflict in ukraine, our casualties of it as long as we want the war to continue. we will fight that more using ukrainian sized proxies, and we will fight it to the last ukranian death. that's what's happened in dumbass this whole time. this is, this aren't objects, these are people that and so that's why i do what i do. that's why i'm here. ah, welcome back to process. we're all things considered on peter le beltran manager, we're discussing russia, china relations with

ok. let's go back to robert in, in, in houston. i want you to finish off your answer before we went to our break here. i mean it's, you know, i, you know, matthews already touched on it, robert, but you know that this whole had gemini model with rules based order, whatever that means. it's not working. it's not working for them that vast majority of the world. and that's why we see these movements to get away from it and then financial control in the dollar. all of this it has access to weapon. it's a cudgel, ok. and more and more countries say they don't want to be fall victim to that. they want prosperity and they want security. that's not ideological for the vast majority of the world. but american hegemony as seen in, in, in, in washington, in london, in brussels, maybe even kev is very ideological. go ahead, robert. yeah, well it's not really united states for america. it's either, you know, it might be for the top one percent of the top 10 percent read a grill and crises right now. you know, bank wages, the health care system,

united states, it really terrible condition. housing debt and so in lieu taking actions that would, you know, kind of alleviate the problem because he's at a stage that re servicing the cold war mccarthy's of, you know, that would be social, straight up here with the socials of the u. s. so instead, you know, you kind of make this plate for germany based on military strengths, military power. you create these, these jobs when she adams called the monsters to destroy long ago, right after world war 2. george can stick with 6 percent of the population and 50 percent of the wealth, and our task is to maintain this position of disparity. and that's where we still america policy to, to maintain the power to electrical power. and it used to sell the idea to america, get prosperity from detroit, the steel mills that basis like that, that's not there anymore. now it's based on fear and, and all these other problems that emerge. and so you talk about things like china, russia rather than think global warming,

which is obviously great prices for any of the extinction of the entire play on it . and in the us, we're just not really discussing that. are doing much about it. yeah, well i, i don't really see any meaningful political discussion in the united states if you watch cable news anyway. you know, matthew, i started out by talking about, you know, a multi polar world and how both russian china are working towards it. now i think that's a very smart idea. it's for security reasons. it's very, but it's very practical and pragmatic because the, the, the west war against russia is to take russia out, break it up, and then good take on china and the chinese and the russians both know that. go ahead, matthew. yeah, that's right. i mean, divide and conquer has been the age old formula. it's been applied again again for centuries. obviously, the nuclear bomb had really distorted or thrown off that formula for the past 80 years. but the being present, he said it directly in 1087 that you know,

you laid out the designs for what is it something like 12 micro iterations with s no nationalistic orientations that should be put under the dominance of the us of the i m f if the yeltsin doctrine, the soros doctrine that had taken control of russia back the 1980s had been not subverted by actual patriots. nationalists who didn't want to sacrifice their, their heritage on this altar of the new world order. so instead again and again in various ways we have similar us think tanks that have images of a carved up china, a highly reduced in size with maybe 6 little micro federations under the control of the world bank. and i m f and trying to cease that the, the ukraine formula is being applied in its own back yard, in the, in the guise of both taiwan and japan, which have their own sort of similarities to the ukraine situation in their own way . and any complete, you know, full spectrum military dominance, a military build up around their perimeter,

just like in russia. and we have the same discussion, the arctic. so the see where the, where things are going and they see that the u. s. is sitting on the biggest time bomb called the financial bubble. oh yes, only matter alexis. oh yeah. so that's a big factor. yeah, yeah. i look look who has problems with dad and i can tell you who's going to be a problem in the world. ok. it, you know, andrew, it, it's very interesting to me is that, you know, um that everyone likes to say that this is a marriage of convenience, the russians and the chinese. but it actually, i look at it this way is that, you know, that russia and china are accused of being a revisionist powers, revisionists powers, actually their status quo powers. they what they want to appeal to the united nations charter. and the rules based order has nothing to do with the, with the un charter. but, you know, with western prop, again, it's actually quite c, a sophisticated in it's ubiquitous, you know. but there is a huge distinction between looking towards the charter and this rules based order. andrew well, of course,

the am special relationship between russia and china as the product of, of so food, very powerful with our name. it forces. first of all, the relationship already started very close. relationship will really started well before the current. and you claim, whoa, i mean, and because both countries are extremely complementary. economically, russia has been the world's largest one. that was law just explorer. oh, energy and all gas and oil, and as well as minerals, but also agricultural products. and russia is the world largest exporter of agricultural fertilizes. and then china is the world's largest customer, but both the both energy and the agricultural products. so naturally, the 2 countries are intertwined together well before the ukraine war. now, and then andrew,

andrew and i to point out that neither one of these countries want to export their model to the other one. okay, that's a, a respect of sovereignty and k. and again, that doesn't go along with the rules base order, because you, everyone has to be recreated in the image of the the liberal order which the world does not want. we know that. okay, yeah, let me go, let me go to robert right now. interested in reading the pages of politico, it's interesting to do as a zalinski regime is very hesitant to criticize china. so we have a client state 100 percent client state of the west of the united states. and they are hesitating now because they see the role that russia and china are playing on the world state. it tells you everything you really need to know. a client state is beginning. that wants to hedge their bets very interesting, robert, go ahead. yeah, shiners that they did, she could say, sure, american policy makers more anything else because china is now

a threat to american germany, american power especially can all of our manufacturing trade everything else. and so that's why talks really be shot out of us before they even begin to wall street journal, a company official organ of the american ruling elite. they said, you know, the doctor and i start with the chinese model. this has worked that, as you pointed out, i think it's kind of what the u. s. did it the end of the 19th 20th century is sending out trade ships and sending out diplomats belton road initiative. the general, these piece docs between the saudis and iran ears. and so would say, hey, we know, you know, it's central and central asia and ask about, in the middle east to say we have something to offer you. and your writers are really based on, you know, kind of a commitment to have the same kind of political system or political reality. it's this idea, you know, united states called the open door, you know, at the end of the 20th century 19th, 20th and early 20th century. and that's kind of what the chinese you're doing.

they're not saying, hey, we're going to come in here. we're going to blow you to bed. we're going to work on project armies. ready they're saying is we're going to extend trade, we're going to help you develop some kind of manufacturing based that will help you know, the word back of the 20 central would be modernized and it's working on and much of the world. now. china has this diplomatic initiative, is this political issue that obviously terrifies united states now? and so, you know, you have issues like ukraine, which has been a real boom for raytheon in general dynamics and companies like that for data, right? it gives a reason to adjust another reason to exist, but for us to blow better for you, for the people in the united states here, like i said before, we're not benefiting from this military industrial complex either. you know, you could say in the 50s or sixties, the u. s. was typical american was, but now, you know, personal, that student, that a deteriorated healthcare says a horrible infrastructure train derailments every day, horrible pollution problems. so it's a fairly great political crisis in the united states is focusing on these parks

between your you know, kind of, it is taking these ancillary issues with blowing up, or rather they're dealing with, with the real problems we face, which is, you know, absolutely. i now are releasing a child to this, the liberal order, as well as an alternative to this kind of american system. this was kind of, i mean, i mean in thing, the new liberal order is just as bad for the united states as it is for other countries. exactly. that. yeah. yeah, yeah. i mean, i, for the life of me why the american congress pays ukrainian pensions, but it won't take care of pensioners in america or veterans or any other group. okay. really? yeah. sort of billiards around, but nobody fries palace that a while. you're trained. goodbye matthew. you know, one of the, one of the biggest difference we see right now is that, you know, ever since the end of the cold war, the great powers didn't confront each other. they had proxy wars all over the place

here. they didn't go toe to toe, but now we see elements within the american administration and want to go to tell with russia and china at the same time. the great powers traditionally don't go after each other. you know why? because you can fail. it's existential. that's why we live in a very dangerous time. we have great powers, the united states confronting other great powers that's. that's a no no, because you can lose matthew. yeah, no, absolutely. i mean, again, as i mentioned earlier, the advent of the nuclear bomb really change the calculus of how global empire could ever function again and for throughout the cold war period of the mutually assured destruction of formula that was set out by folks like bertrand russell. it sorta had a balance of terror that didn't result in destroying everything. but now we're at a point where we have a systemic break. and i think that that factor of the transatlantic systemic banking meltdown. but it's not just the banking, the physical in struck the physical means of production,

which have been atrophied consistently for 50 plus years. are now variables that are shaping the thinking of certain fanatics who unfortunately have access to the watch mechanisms of many of these nuclear warheads who can do nothing but doubled down on the script that they had laid out back in 109192. when the world was one, it was the end of nation states and one world government was here and of history. and they seem to still hold on to the delusion at that script still applies to the current aid. despite the fact that reality has completely changed from their ivory tower. and i think you see some signs of major infighting amongst different factions of oligarchical interest. right now we're some are saying, oh well maybe we should like live to fight another date of birth. this plan, i think the jeffrey sachs angle is, is playing a role in that. and then on other angles, you have the more fanatical neil con drive of just, you know, we can do nothing but what we're program to do, which is a gemini with no negotiation. and that's scary. it's a very,

very proud of that. so we end the program. it's scary, it's certainly as gentleman, it's all the time we have a want to thank my guess until go houston and in hong kong, and want to thank our viewers for watching us here. and archie, see you next time. and remember crosstrek rules ah ah, ah ah ah, ah

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