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and which they were going to try. and as i said, it would be another blame it on a religious fanatic. but it was all done by a people in the prime minister. they did minister and one senior intelligence agency guy. they had planned this murder nation, and i was lucky to be alive, and unfortunately they are still in a position of power. and so therefore, even though the investigation started but the scholarly investigation because it was pointing in the direction of a proper guns, proceed along the lines which i predicted and therefore they just they sabotaged the investigation. so the trends, israel, because these people are sitting and bala petrified, but if i win the elections, they would be in trouble headed accountable. so they have been doing them since then. when i was saved by the almighty,
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just in the nickel dime they had to do but be on 11 on saturday. there was a problem. did i almost walked into the disk drive and the nickel dime? i got back because they had planned, you know, giving me them. and then i discovered that they were going to do another action against mine on wednesday they were going to do this action where my supporters were there and they were plunging. people in my support would have fired the police, and the police in their dilation would have given my support that eventually come off to me. so i mean, it's a difficult time in august because we have a government which is the drift. we have a government which get on the what you get on a goal, but they could make situation in the country, which is we're passing through the was crisis in history. the was governance system and history. and then we have people who are petrified of elections. so the
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elections on too many problems that have been announced by the supreme board on the 30th of april, the petrified elections. my body will sweep them because an order been bullied by bodies boys to undo the majority of august on hand. they want to get rid of the out of the 37 by elections in the last few months. my body is sweat, 30 or so you know you, the reason you asked me in the beginning, our end of the thread. the thread is ran until the elections because they want that if the election stick bears i come back into paula, they will be heading to countable. i'll get to the economy in a moment. is it true that as b t i lead fall? shaudra says in the indian papers actually called up the story of us, that you are going to be part of multi body negotiations, agreeing on a process when you elections. and does that make any difference as regards yourself? because because you're banned from going for these elections by pakistani
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authorities, well, i'm not bad at all. but 443 cases against me. 5 by the government. under $43.00, it must be somewhat red color. i remember i've been in the public guy for the last 50 years. i'm the most well known bugs bunny in our history, and people know me. i have never broken any law. and suddenly, in the last few months, in trying to remove me from the election raised them 543, which start from last me to sedition. to dare is, most of them are terrorism, will support is in the peace movement in say, nature country say that it was your opposition to drones. things that you've done certainly would have irritated the cia and antony blinking. but what about these gifts that you received from foreign governments? when you a p. m, between 201820?
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22. what do you? what about those charges? in $73.00. as of august on history, the law says that when a head of state law, anyone and bower ministers, or army generals only one when they receive gifts, then the law says that you bear a certain amount or do those state. it used to be 20 percent. and my diamond was 50 percent when you paid 50 percent. the gifts for yours to do whatever you want. but guess you did not claim washington and in the market. so this has been the law for 70 years. i and i'm waiting for this job. this is a allegation i'm waiting for this to go to court. you would find out and people would find out the only had austin possibly the only had austin who went by the book who declared everything and who made did everything legal is sitting here.
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well, of course, some i'd say the, you appointed people when you were prime minister, that i don't know whether you think they were part of a conspiracy for the spokesperson and edema. so john white is he saying things like i was impressed by a emron cons. anti corruption platform was tied to the status quo, but then saw that welcome publicly talked about the poor privacy. he surrounded himself with wealthy investors. but what do you make of that in others that you, you appointed? when you, you appointed people that now criticize you? this guy came from one of the party, join me before 2008 elections. and then he lost elections. and so as a consolation, i gave him some advice issue and then he went back to the party to the body game from when he, when you go back, what are you going to say? why, why did you leave your body? you know, why are you back?
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what else is you going to say? i'm really disappointed. i thought this was this. i mean, you know, these are politicians. what are they going to say? remember, the only government that has been removed in our history and not to move for corruption, was my government. when my government was removed in 17 years, we had the best economic performance and that's documented in economics avail. august on an annual report published on the economy published by this government. so it has the best economic record in 70 years and was not removed on corruption. obviously that severe be disputed by the opposition you tweeted on sunday. fascism is at unprecedented levels under the premiership of your successor. no was sheriff's brother shabazz, i'm deciding through the ios i boss nadeem and u. z, a fascist. and what is the role of the military here because to have fascism, you need a strong military. are you saying that there are others beside the prime minister,
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the new prime minister that are part of fascism in modern day pakistan? never in a democratic government have a fundamental rights of the citizens, a democratic rights? never the freedom of speech. never has it been so much at stake, right? as right now, i mean, all these rights have disappeared, but his son is passing through the worst human right catastrophe in a democratic history. yes. in some military dictatorships, there was probably similar circumstances, but in general motions dictatorship and was liberal compared to what we're going to right now. well that's, that's obviously quite a, quite a statement. have you had any or any contact with us authorities because the optics of your overthrow were that you were with vladimir putin as the response by russia to nature provocation as russia. so it had happened in don bass,
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and there's been very little support for you from washington. but on the other hand, you have tempered your initial charge is that washington was, or the sole conspirator to of the qu, that you will, edge when my gum was removed. so just to give your, he was exactly what happened. a cipher which is a, which is a correspondence from our ambassador in washington with his conversation with the american under secretary of state of south asia. it was regarding a conversation in terms that it was there were no takers on both sides. so it was an official meeting, this is donald blu ray, dot anthony blinking sir. diplomat. yeah, so that of course one is which is called the cypress seeker correspondence. arrived at the foreign office and at my desk. no, what did it say?
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daughter louis, telling the bug sunny investor that if you do not remove him, ron con, your prime minister and a vote of no confidence, there will be consequences with bugs on the next day. it is a vote of no confidence against a government that had the best economic performance in 70 years. as you know, as you know now shes sharif is saying they have a leak already of you saying we must use this. i mean, that doesn't necessarily negate the fact that the biden administration was trying to overthrow you, but it was that true to the audio recording of you saying we must use as one can understand you wanting to use it. after all, it's a conversation which was state by the secret agencies. and then the doctor did, you know, you know, now if you have, if, if that dave, your conversation, i mean, we're artificial intelligence. you can actually do anything. so the doctor,
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the conversation, but let me just make it a fake tape but so, so no. when i was doctor, there were some things that were right, but then there were, you know, you can easy doctorate, but the point is i made that cipher public i and michael i of course, a good polish of what was it, a of the, the exactly correspondence because it's a secret goal, but we put that cipher in front of our a cabinet us national security council by his son officially demolish the u. s. y, interfering and, and internal affairs. so that is the cipher. but later on we discovered it with what you were referring to. we discovered that it was own army chief who was campaign against b, who was a min architect of conspiring to remove b. you're talking about generalize him an air? no, i'm talking about dental budge wise, the ex army chief. ok. he was conspiring,
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he was telling b. u. s. he had hired a lobby score. lasana county on up here on my government barrel. who was loving against bill washington during the americans. a look him on when do rush on is on a gordon as of the whole of foreign office. all, all the stakeholders were not on board and that was in the cipher today. and he campaigned that iran as anti american and general america and so level. now we just go and then they will poison against the big line above. good relationship with the trump administration. former prime minister, i'll stop you. the more from the 22nd prime minister pockets on the chairman of the p t. i m on con uh to this break. ah, blue, blue, blue ah,
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ah, ah, i ah, with what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful. very katy killed time. time you sit down and talk
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ah, welcome back to going undergrad. i'm still here with overthrown by august. sunny by minister emron con. as you know, the white house has been denying a lot of stories, not least the nord stream destruction story revealed by seymour hersh. but according to your allegations about the fact you were threatened by consequences. as appearing in that cipher or code, the biden spokesperson, kate bedingfield, is on the record to saying there's absolutely no truth to that allegation that you made. well, hardly are they going to say that, you know, we were involved in a regime, jane and bugs on. obviously that were denied, but the fact is the side for was the ocean conversation between ambassador in washington and on a lou. and that was reported to me. and the exact words were that you should get
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rid of your prime minister in a board of your conferences. and surprisingly, the next day there was a lot of new confidence. well, let's go to the economy then because you've been talking about the threat to the sovereign debt rating of pakistan. why do you believe china is not waiting for you to be back? empower in pakistan of the of asset budget con, already been in bay. jing of china giving pakistan $500000000.00 to facilitate it. seems a loans possible 1200000000 dollars from the u e, where i'm talking to you from the kingdom of saudi arabia. why are these countries not reacting more extremely in or at least in a way that would suit your political parties position. you see from what i can get, i mean, i can only assume this because i have no contact with any of the foreign countries . so i don't see why that order reacting. but i can assume that what is happening
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is that countries outside bug hassan, financial institutions outside by august on and all the businesses will focused on have lost faith in the us government. and why the lost with, because the economy has been so badly managed that we are wanting to the worst economic crisis in our history. so our, our currency is plunged. our growth rate has gone down, ah, exports, you know, where creation, how do you get? well, but producing by exporting, well all you did i want to give is to facilitate the i am floats. surely. i mean that's why the prime minister sharon sharif is saying you're derailing your own i m f. program. if you a prime minister, would you just go along with facilitating washington money again? reports are that the i m f may not be sending the $1100000000.00 trunk. you probably want that washington money, would you rather than a more independent pakistan with relying on bricks countries?
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oh, object of getting an i'm as ron is a bridging lawn until you make your structure changes in your economy. that is supposed to be just a breathing long for you to get on your feet. but you know, that's what the i m f does to global south country. no, i know that's not what the i m f does, but the countries have to take responsibility. now what will be trying to do, and i just give you an example of what we were trying to do. raise your revenues, so exports. remittances raise the number of donors coming in because i'm, it only comes in when you have a shortage of dollars, or you're going to con, goes into deficit. so we were trying to raise our revenues and gradually try to squeeze expenditure. this is what happens when a house goes into debt. now, what is happening right now is that when you are exposed to go start going down. when your remittance has started going down, in other words, you're gonna income goes down. you're in deep trouble because you're just taking
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loans, but you have no capacity to pay them back. if you've, unless you grid, where are you going to pay your loss back? this is the crunch we've got stuck and right now we have all these loans accumulating. we are boring money, which is why the other countries are elected, but i capacity to pay back has been reduced. so who is in control of pakistan that who is in control of those who want to do you harm? well, this government was brought in by the ex army chief that he was the army chief general module since then has been brought up by the stablish. but there are 12, marty scholarship, which is forming this government, which means no one is enjoys. they're all over the place. if the establishment withdrew support from his government. if we're going to day, there's nothing to bind it together. it is just the stablish been keeping them together, which is why i'm saying the situation is untenable. at the moment,
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there is so much political uncertainty, no one just the government, the only way forward. a free and fair elections allow government government, which is bumbling, mandate. the confidence of the people that is a government then which can start restructuring the economy, making difficult. joyce's, you know, difficult decisions and, and only a government public mandate can get us out of this mess. and many say that you are the most popular politician in pakistan. you obviously won the majority of the votes in 2018, but you also know the history of assassinations of pakistani leaders. he still refusing personal bodyguards. i was the assassination of them when i was extremely lucky to be alive. this young man, when he saw him draw her gun just by the 30 feet where feet away from me. had he not has put his hand on the gun. it wouldn't be on the dog body and other people
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because he put his hand on the gum in the last minute. it hid my legs and other people bless it. i'm going to shoot in the front. so, but it's in the legs, man. i went down and then a bullet on the shooter in front window, the head since then i've taken precautions. now i speak in front of a blue screen and i am digging because because the guy who planned the solution all in power laws were supposed to defend me are the ones i am in the greatest danger from. they of course deny that they say they're protecting you clearly. what about you? explain the silence. then i mean the, the am your children's uncle is the you you came in is to for overseas territories, not gold. now, lord goldsmith, he, it's been on this show. why no, why nothing from him. look here, the problems in pakistan have to be solved by the people by gast, on hard, via my,
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who to ask other countries look and, you know, i was, i was asking, you know, i was wondering why they didn't volunteer to. as you know, nature governments have a lot of talking about different countries in the global south. they just not talking about democracy in pakistan. all. i'm one of the countries abroad to talk about other, the greatest violation of human rights sticking base right now in my country. we actually have the worst form of fascism in this country. clam known on media gender has been put into jail. one of her best investigative journalists, or should she bounded out in kenya, assassinated or a hot dog dennis had left the country and who killed i, shad? sure, if you believe it was a that im and you the boss of the i a saudi. i believe it was the same guy that tried to kill me. they would deny that, but you don't have the, the evidence asserted. well, this is, this is
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a top pakistani john is killed in kenya after being in dubai. of course, for those who don't know him, so unless you have a proper investigation, how can you find the bruce? and when the investigation was going on, in my case, they came in several judge on the bruce, this gum, and then destroy it all. and all the evidence that was collected so far has been destroyed. they have destroyed the joint investigating committee. this. this is completely minister reader, why? because they are sitting in bower and didn't know where the investigation was eating. same as with the journalist or chetry his, his investigation hasn't already been scuttled. would you do things differently? now i know that influence of con, local b, t i, leader in the have alien, has been killed this week. members of your party are being killed or would you have done things differently as regards the military, the secret services in pakistan which you you after will lead pakistan. these
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structures were there on the or leadership good look, we have an august on we have a history. we gave the starter of a security state. we had this big fear off of nebo, 7 times our size, which we had. and uh, do dick as 3 wars against them. so they will usually the gun do nationally would have a fear that it by so not exist. and you know, because the naval was so huge and therefore it started over the security state. and then when i was a politician, most of the army came in and, and both marcia laws, we had 3 much lost out of the last 60 years. ah, we've been ruled by the army and roughly all by these 2 families. so the democratic system still evolving, it still hasn't of all properly and we are just let me just can be we had the war
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on gender for almost 15 years. and that again, to us more into the security, stayed by the agencies as the intelligence agencies played a huge order. so we are now trying to have more of a system. what is that equilibrium at the moment is going librium at the moment. in this case of this government is almost completely the establishment running the show of the nuclear weapons safe. absolutely. i think one thing that is a consensus and by august on it is on nuclear weapons because, you know, everyone recognizes that that guarantees of security. so there is a consensus across body line everyone, everyone in pakistan believes that we must keep them secure over there. and can you just said that those elements of the security state have been problematic over recent years, and yet they're in control of the nuclear weapons. no problems,
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but between the the balance for the military and the civilian relationship. that's where the problem is. it's not as far as the nuclear, since i'm concerned there is a consensus august on that we need to look after them and get them secure better because that shows our security and safety. well, as your family are attacked, as your recovering from being shot says, you're under threat of assassination. how is it to view she, gen, ping, visiting moscow and both put in and she, heralding, almost a new well daughter which seems to be very different at 1st sight to that, that we've seen since 1945. i see, you know, great change is taking place. i mean, of course, in china and russia is one because it seems that the u. s. this policy is just pushing countries into last in there to whom he just
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brought together iran in saudi arabia. i think that's one of the best developments as far as body side is concerned, because iran is a neighbor and saudi arabia is one of our closest friends for years. so them together, easy tensions for us. we feel that it's a great step forward. but what i do not want these blocks developing countries like us, you choose either one side or the other because india has, i mustn't mind yes for the policy. their ideal non alignment when they were born, warren countries, when rocks, india sort of standards in the making itself a country which is non aligned and, and devoid intent relationship. but everyone, and that's what i want my son to be. we don't want to be like we were in the cold water, you were lined up with a u. s. and therefore we cannot have relationship with the entire central ation
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blog, which was with the, with the soviet union. so now i would really like, for, from my son's point of view, we, you know, we need to have trade trade with her on james with central asia right up to russia because thus, these are our neighbors and china, of course. and one day i hope that we have read with india and we have proper relationship with india once. hopefully, the spiritual sword will just very briefly, if shabba sharif try to follow those kinds of geopolitical policies. would he be subject to what you alleged you is subjected to by the bible administration? would he be overthrown if he wanted to be not aligned? he will love bravo. marcia schafer and his brother and officer doughty is that they have billions of dollars lying outside august on and western capital properties. they've got them brochure, a guns, and what it's not just by august. i need bought a dish loose dashed, money laundering from the countries, and do
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a western capital and offshore account. this is the problem with the most of developing world. and the moment, the leadership, as money, outsiders, country and the sort of billions of dollars. i'm afraid they can never take independent decisions. they cannot do have an independent foreign policy for the benefit of their own people. well, of course all this politicians deny any wrong doing. they're all welcome to come on the show are prime minister american. thank you and that's over the show will be back on monday. meanwhile, you can keep in touch my role as social media, if it's not sensitive in your country and had to watch on or going other grantee on, rumbled or come to watch new and old absence of going underground. see on monday. ah ah ah,
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