take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the timeframe down. so there's less one less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i leave, i have nothing to fall back on. i have that deposit to do. i have nobody to go to. you know me and lived around last 7 years. i have nothing. sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them, but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day. you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold talk, it help me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my allusion to

a whole nother level really you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to acknowledge like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my christmas. they go from being untrusting hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out. people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back of them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey, there is, there is a human insights. and that's the,

i think the incredible power of emotion it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story did nothing to challenge it but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me letting her brother raise me and my sister denying the rape half and making the school back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash all. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother

me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for 8 years. and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store and then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me. and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time

me, the buddy might offer me a job carrying in furniture at cherry hill in jersey long for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i take the job, he is going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is due. and i said, i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for me in 6 months? i still think it was in the nazi chief would fit every jewish stereotype. religious wearing alligators. i don't bring them right or you know say where i broke the marble top table and i was like keith, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bowers frame. me

so i so hours a day rate for the customer, but he just bought it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, and i remember him not too much on that day, and i just kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put him any further than i were . and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold on a better. so for the whole right own swastikas looks at him every day. because normally you nazi when i just wanted to see my boots, i knew him boots and when they did for me they dropped me off and they were full pay. take anything monday. and i was told and i just can wait. just pretend things on my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it me was 2 parts to

getting out of a violent extremist group, the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then why do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out, you will learn them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy, they're going to be people are angry that do this because they've lost someone. they've been better time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the

next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed or you can't go to go get an anti mental from cobra, for a cup may get the rates at the same time. it's made that big. that's how they do it . we're at the anti vent on the heat, you know? because we have, we had that man, i'm in our so we not spew it and we know how to also make it an empty metal and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to calmer, that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get out. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after prison, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know, you have to be. so you tend to be it after a while before you realize it is scary,

is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had to myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? i hate them. where does that shift come from? how come you one day you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes is why she wasn't much longer up in the heart range. and every time watching the family, you know, saying live on the family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't like that when they found out because it just left me a little bit of a deal, said they you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shots, go off the road. and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to his race car breaks the brakes. and

i remember slicing, child car, i stop right. designing. i said yes, this is good. you need to is mad. right across. and then we inside school and open this up. i'm trying to get out and just to get on time if there was one thing, then someone stuck in my life in that life who may not be aware that there is a way out. what would you say? go all the hate that hey, ruins you. poisons you're very solemn and i left him a lot of human since really, during the summer, in 2016, we started to see significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office. we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim,

hey groups tripled tonight. every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against him, alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland. the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right movement and he's up on their way. the country are great on there that we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from. and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country. troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture?

i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you could just go back to much too much. it was a bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that, although he does not think in terms of race the way either he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white people. he spoke to some of the things that,

that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay ford. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism, that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well . those are thousands or tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that no skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with your big tree or anti semitism. it didn't serve you well in your career, your friends in your neighborhood, really born, excited to hang out with you. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you. and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and then we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it

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here. so my i got i got this guy color this. hey people who say oh is all love we hey, hey hey hey, love please. same people had a message with pure hate when i post randy, you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people, question, i don't get down with what was it was go find more of a sudden, you know, i don't know if i'm talking to you can be like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers. they were treating randy how they were treat me on a regular day. you know,

just awful what they perceived by his our parents end up one arrest is yeah, i right. this magic got beat oh it's been are usually the sped on the back. is it usually it mom was what is he doing wrong? why actually sit on the ground do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some his views about certain bay. it was certain i'm agree on both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the air you nation. and that's just how a lot of my friends, the different people get involved in the blow to cribs in different games they joined. that's was around you. so what i was around you and your friends may be involved or whatever. 6 happens your my say is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it assign. it was just a different route. they angry, white man, angry or 2 different mean. the angry black man is angry because he has no home,

has no vision, no way to provide angry white people, especially a lower income cause they have so many mental and role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i will be deprived to if i'm down at the bottom would be black people and they got to really be and you know, i'm why, what am i know? it is a deep seated. you'll see the thing around and you know, no one you're gonna dock and a, you know, what better way to focus at. inger that they know these people, people different feel color. i can say ignorant white man because he's angry because he doesn't really understand was listening. oh, did america. he doesn't even say i e got to where do you that? you know, i'll for the bless. went to the assistance back. i mean, everybody. that's why it in america has benefited all if time answer that color

respond cod amos. i missed it. you know, busy right now. given the wrong hope i got somebody to understand matches myself, but my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. and we talk every week, man, that's a good time to we at least either set the at least 2 times. you know, your phone calls, you know, our phone calls, you know, and we don't was route with, i mean, when you think about what you've done just in the last month, the turn around the correction. done what you've abandoned and what you adopted. it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds, they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional in lifestyle, change to humanize town,

which allows them to humanize your like that. that's not rocket science but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody and eric, eric brother, who nation, anybody who got a lot of on the saying why i got free and that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. is that we don't ever forget that there are people inside of those people. but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and if we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x not fina blackman. you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him

was proven to be a last day in madison. but tell me, i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men. they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more a whole quickly and easily ideology of hey, falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they hated helps build

that. i'm them. these are that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt except in any shape or form from anybody is actually with white after have another p 5 met just recently. i feel as if those it's to grade, so i want everybody to know the human being here instead of like i miss it. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. it is really good to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our emotion and foreigners are, are evolving into a powerful force and justice, quality, love, peace,

compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places here, or let me get to choose which one that is still happened in the days following boston happened. such a turn out and seemed at a mortgage support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i feel like i have i have something to bring to the table. i'm on to bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society, but no one's better served by my guilty machine at this point, including me me

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