ah ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . foreign policy is rarely frontin central american electoral politics. however, biden's nato proxy war in ukraine against russia is turning into an exception, as long as it takes and blank checks are not going down well with the g o p base. can republicans afford to continue to support biden's ward with

cross stocking? the g o p. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is illegal in media analyst in miami. we have nicholas davies. he is co author of warren ukraine making sense of a senseless conflict. and in budapest we cross a jord samuel alley. he's a podcast here at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. are gentleman cross stock rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate lydel, i guess a very simple question here. as i said in my introduction, foreign policy rarely pays plays a big role in a tour of politics in america. but we have a presidential cycle coming up, and the issue of ukraine is in play here. it's in play very much in the republican party. we seem to have the elite very much in support of it. and the base, not so much. is this good if the war continues? this is going to be a wedge issue. lionel. no, the only thing that i will play in, by the way, let me backtrack a bit. it's very rare when you have left and right. and whatever iteration this is

agreeing on something in theory, they believed in this disconnected kind of a psychotic thing called the war, or in ukraine and supporting ukraine on the front page of the new york posters, ukrainian flag. and that's it. so they support some thing. the problem is going to be from the g o p base is, where's the money going? how much is the money? how long will that? because it's a money issue. it's a fiscal democrats really don't know anything about it. they have this idea about freedom or something. they are less concerned, but it will not be a wedge is you? it will not be of any importance. the only thing the only because remember, left and right are exactly the same is going to be what about an accounting? what about justifying where the money is going? is it perhaps wasted from the monetary fiscal point of view? that will be the, the, the focus of interest. okay. how about you, george? ok. i agree with lionel. i mean that, that, that's the, the, the wedge issue, that

a lot a many in the republican party words the money going, why is it and was playing check, as i said in my introduction. but it's, it is a wedge between the leads and the base. and that's kind of important here. go ahead, george. i agree. it's not a, i mean, i don't, i agree with you because i don't agree with lionel. i think it is a very big issue. and it goes much beyond where's the money going? the issue, as trump as laid it out, that we're heading towards world war $3.00. we're heading towards a possible nuclear compensation with another nuclear superpower. and we need to stop it. trump said, oh where's, where's the money going? he has said, we need a ceasefire immediately, and we need to bring this war to an end immediately that he's blaze a trail among the republicans. the scientist is trying to maneuver and to find out where he's going to go. trump's opponents, the ones is going to say, oh, you know,

we all the way it was the landscape. they're insignificant, they're going to be kicked out of the race. by the time we get to new hampshire, but i think it is a very big issue and i think it will be a big issue in the primary and in the general election, because i think trump will probably be the the g o p nominate. and he is going to raise this issue that this is biden's war and, and i think it's going to be, i mean, if it was still going, then it will be an important issue in the election. nicholas, i find it really interesting where we can go beyond left and right democrat republican, you know, again, we have a presidential election cycle where the, there's an anti war sentiment that is very, very real in the body politic. now, as it goes up the chain of command as it were, we have beliefs that they don't want to reflect that. donald trump, in 2016 if you like them or hate them, it doesn't matter. but he did tap into that and people responded. and so,

but i think it's very important that we have some members of the g o p, that we're representing the sentiments of the grassroots now because it's biden's, while the democrats are going to go along with that, they are always democrats, are always in lock step with each other. okay. but the further you go down the chain, the more people question these foreign adventures. nicholas? yeah, people are and the, and the poll numbers are shifting in terms of the proportion of americans who actually support a negotiated piece to bring this horrific war to an end as quickly as possible. however, i just want to tell you of you as about a recent gallup poll. this was a poll asking americans about quote, unquote, threats to america, and asking and asking them to, to rank them really art. so on 11 issues that people were asked about the war in

ukraine ranked 7 out of 11. and so, so while, when you asked people directly about it more and more from support, a ceasefire and negotiate, i mean nicholas, if i can interact with mental player, this is here. it's very important what you're saying here, because when you think about it, the day lose of, of our media coverage from the, the legacy media about the conflict and you're saying it rank 7 that tells you a lot. and most of these media outlets are very, very liberal in step with the democratic party. so that tells you a lot there, lionel, and let me go back to you in new york. why don't the republican see say, this is biden's war and be done with it? i mean, that is elaine, that's open please let me clarify something and i don't disagree with my dear colleague george in terms of the issues i'm talking about what is on the

mind of the american voter 1st. they don't know anything about that. so if you told him, you know, there's about 800 military bases and 70 countries, they have no clue. trump will not be the nominee. this is, this is, this is collapsing before your very eyes. there is, i mean the more he speaks, this is an aside by the way, things are changing drastically. it's going to be a battle by the way, between gavin newsome and whoever decides that they're stupid enough to run for the g o p nominee. what the american people think has been generations and generations of the fact that we don't have anything to worry about that over there. vietnam taught us nothing. it we don't care when i see we the average joe 6 pack middle of the curve, kind of an undecided sort of an nominal voter believes that these wars always kind of shorted take care of themselves,

nuclear and theoretical but thatch over there. i say this not out of out of a joke, but people couldn't find ukraine on a map. that's critical geography. this means nothing. so what they do is they have this idea of supporting this, this heraldic dis, this, the, some romantic zalinski with a t shirt by eating. you've got, of course, you know, the left and hollywood coming in. so they believe this kind of a kind of an, a more fish kind of idea, but supporting so okay. with that. so down inside, it's a little and he's thinking about yeah, what they're just there. and so you, they're just all being lied to here. george. let me go back now in budapest, syria, we can bring up a, a la libya, but those were all on the periphery. this is toe to toe. if i could quote the, the great film a dr. strange love me. this is insanity going great. powers going toe to toe, as i've said many times in this program,

that creates an existential equation. one power could and will lose george. yes sir, that's true. and the end, the record is surely that on the american voters vote for peace, or they don't vote for the war candidate. and the george w bush's was in iraq. and he barely won in 2004 questionable whether even one, but in 2006, 2008. there was an overwhelming anti war vote. and that's really the, the record in the united states now, so far on the, this war hasn't really hurt americans. but if this continues, the biden cycle continues inexorably towards a serious collision with russia. then americans are going to really feel it. and that attitude are, well, it's over there and it's nothing to do with us that's going to disappear very

quickly. and there's going to be a great deal of anxiety. and then the candidate who says this is madness. we have to get off. he's going to be the winner in nicholas. and did you say this is precisely um, why the media at the corporate media here in the u. s. have have presented a picture of the war to the american public that says, this is a war that the u. s is not directly involved in, they don't want americans comparing it to iraq. i'm which is which is what my dear and i just did. ah, in the, in an article which we titled, ah, it than not so winding road from iraq to ukraine and bad weather people are going to get that in time for the election ah,

remains to be seen as long as they followed the wall to wall coverage presenting this as not really our business, but we're just trying to help these poor people in ukraine and as long as a lot of people still believe that, ah, then i won't have much impact on the election. okay, well line up real quickly. in the it is this biden's war is, or is it a unit party war? it's even more complicated. we haven't even gotten to the parts and wait till to use you on your shame is work work way till this. and america realizes this is going to be a frozen conflict. there is no resolution. there's no, there's no battleship missouri or whatever it was. this is going to be the 38th parallel. again, this is an ending. so wait, it throws that into the mix. you're going to have a dysfunctional rump state, maybe this thing called ukraine, which, which, which wants to be part of the west,

which implies nato involvement, which russia has said, absolutely not. explain that to people. this is going to be north. this would be korea all over again. there's no cessation. there's no finality. throw that into this cosmic well, we're gonna, we're going to consider that issue as we approach the break air gentleman, we're gonna go to a short break, and after that your brain will continue our discussion on the g o. p and ukraine. stay with our d. oh we have this tuan tenderness from united states. we've exported it now to the world because the multi national corporations and we've been damaged to believe that babies needs be nurtured in care of who are in love. and so you've got

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russians on the wrong, that's what we believe. but those saying that that's the correct view. what they believe they've got the russians on the ron. and then they just need to keep boring in more and more wall and eventually they're just going to bring russia to its knees. effect the regime change in moscow. maybe the oligarchy will throw booted out. that's, i think, the way they're thinking. so there isn't going to be the frozen conflict my guess in new york, miami, and in budapest, i want to thank my viewers for watching us here at r t c a next time. remember across a a ship here cause like a scroll through a e mail you with great of finland to the euros. the nazi theory of racial superiority,

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