ah, hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered on peter lavelle? liberal liberalism was again on display this past week with buying 2nd democracy summit. the problem is most of the world doesn't divide countries into democracy or talk receives. in fact, much of the world views western democracy as an expression of ideological to gemini with just guess these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and here in moscow we have to meet re bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at in us me internet media project by telling process rules and effect. that means it can jump any time you want. and i would appreciate it. i start out with martin here more. we had the by the administration . so i guess the 2nd annual or a buy a new one,

not sure because he talks about democracy. a lot of the former president of the united states in front runner and the opposition party is indicted. so, i mean democracy message for the world, but not much democracy at home here. i mean, this is beyond farcical and most of the world sees it. and if you look at the final communique, the number of exceptions to countries to why we would like this agreement without this paragraph and not this paragraph here. i mean, absolutely farcical, but this is how they see the world. they see the world as a, a binary democracy versus a talker. see, and of course you don't agree with democracy. then you're an auto crowd. i mean, it is a such a mannequin view of the world. go ahead mark. yeah, it's a been no polarization which even when you go back in the day when america had some source of credibility on the world stage as the one the dishes out,

the moral tutelage on a grand scale. i'm talking when the post war is perhaps, you know, even in those days, you know, the, the grounds for america taken that role are always very adult. she was always quite, always large credibility. i know today, i think biden is really used the word farcical. i think that's that's, that's a good word. i think that's really where we are with this. can always biden with somebody find on a lot about human rights when he was leading up to his own elections. president, you know, when trump's office jumped on the matter in saudi arabia as a huge issue that he constantly said that he would pursue if it was in government, you know, in line with a washington post which took it on board. turns out that was just to let him know, since that was just a way of getting trump number go into office. you know, didn't really care too much about these things. but now he's presenting this sort

of farcical international circus. you know, by to zoom. i mean, can we take it, you know, on the anniversary of the 20 is of the iraq war, you know, self awareness? absolutely. well, no, totally tone desk, you know, completely already free zone here. you know, we, we invite iraq and we tell iraq that they need to prove the human rights. you know, because it's just one of these countries on the blacklist because there is a blacklist got you different. this rock is on the one, you know, the has no democracy. that's hilarious and what, how many drug democracy, mr. mr. black and you know, it isn't learning free zone and it is a policy codes. but the world can't really take this very seriously. given the timing of it, given that we don't associate binds and with somebody who really believes in human rights or is able to even pull this off, you know, just talk to the rest of the world about human rights. nobody really cares about human rights ally. it's has been for very long time, and biden isn't doing

a very good job by saying of using it as some sort of political tool to get countries to align themselves more with who's is of the role they should be playing in this. what you call a binary, well, in a world black and white autocrats and democracy and you know, you know, what, you know, mean democracy is very overrated. and you know, if you're going to, if you're going to stand on the parapet and talk about democracy, you've got to lead. you've got to be the one you got to, you've got to lead by example. you know, for america isn't for very long times, you know, and look at the long list of interventions or 20 or 30 is in my career as a journalist. you know, the millions of lives lost because of complete. because there is this rule, the american house, which is we believe in these principles, these, these ideas of democracy. but the one rule we must install around the world is that every now and again we and only,

we are allowed to throw that rule out of the window one day one week. but we invade a country when we especially dictate to summer, we don't like. and then your role supposed to take us tuesday to get that happened . we carry on as normal. going to another anniversary with this could conference foods on is, is the fascination of pantries, remember, in a yeah, you know, this was, this is the guy that the americans didn't like because he was clever who is educated. he didn't fall into line with us at gemini. this is the late fifty's when i was, it became independent. you know, we've just discovered the last few years that if it was a british assassinated guy was a british and my 6 agent in contrast at the time, you know, and them all these issues. you know, we can't really, i think, given the perspective when we look at the america taking this position and, and positioning itself as the leader of democracy and the one who decides what is democracy and what is not democracy. if you think of the,

the countries then who did it, can this farcical event, diem, if i can turn to, you know, you know, you or, you know, and of course china, china was invited to the brazil wasn't i didn't get a, i mean, who are specific it didn't hold them rush. so this is not the main road very do be in the year or the conference. i mean remember that all sophia's against is opponents or can't some war and soccer. this is more so sober. here we stand for human rights of women, so that means your again, we those right, which is a not a lot of congress which brought in by the respect and the way i hear that offices should be respected is also very dense,

which somehow does not get the right and the, you know, the, the very language which these people use, like in the spirit already. so we throw the child out of the window when rock their leave. bob, you know, we, when our right, that's speaking, you know, there is a balance. there is a panel on democracy can be, were in all global change, and there is much to them or checks behavior by the breath, not just the chair that you speak of it. and i was speaking all the other panel call curious, if you will know, other than us said go when you get together with a room haines, you digital survey just again told though,

soccer just kept, you know, you have these people ga, wants to control before and so, so that is, that is knowledge of when these people get on one day national security, age and gender. when the eastern people in the united states is, is the bond for more. this is called a bullet. can you imagine, you know, that these keep well, when it gets down to go back to their device to try to maintain her gemini, this is what it is. i mean, i mean it can be trans, right? it can be all anything you want it to be. i mean, to draw lines to separate them to isolate ok. it is the most process that i can even imagine murder. yeah, it is a device that's exactly the correct word i would say to and used effectively, you know, to the benefit of those countries and literally economically, politically. or is it just only for america to take the step back?

i think it's also linked to, to actually intervene military themselves in countries around the world. the last time this happened, me going to go back to gulf war. right. since then, america just hasn't had the courage to intervene anyway. it just doesn't have the courage and it's done. political dynamics isn't the courage with his own ministry to, to go ahead and was so there is a new, but there is a new set up. and washington web by that there are the biden has to actually use other tools is disposal to, to batch this drum of germany and keep these countries on board. this is a, is a losing strategy. human rights as a sub 0 is a tool. i think it with the best, the best way to describe it is, is a commodity. nobody should ever really believe in it. and it's really, really apparent now with the you and with washington, when we see what's going on in actually is in this region. in this part of why i'm in north africa, who democratically including as a middle class,

emigres who are leaving the country central africa public in the rules streaming into libya. and it's interesting all of the weeks, italy has been really cooling of the life of the she's against the opinion is next and making all kinds of threats about these immigration throws flows suggesting propulsion risk behind this without any sense of history with any central understanding. the use of policies in these countries cropping up these dictators fighting billions of dollars of cash as they did in 2015 for, for the central african republic upward. so these kind of examples, this contributed session flows to, to fail. you had to japanese, you want to so you know, there's a, there's a lot to fight for, but human rights a lot there gentlemen. we have to go to a hard break. and after about hard break, will continue our discussion with some real new stay with,

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medical experiments over citizens it up for years, the germans killed up to 60000 people ent of the hero tribe, and 50 percent of the nama tribe. the events in south west africa are called the 1st genocide of the 20th century and not without reason just 2 decades later after the massacre in nam may be a game brown colonial uniform which puts the world into the welcome back across town where all things are considered, i'm peter. well, this is the home addition to remind you were discussing with you know, with the, again, this whole mentor of dividing the, we're again, it, i mean, even the cold war is more sophisticated than the size fits all in during the cold

war. it was a competence ok, at least there was a recognition that there was 2 things and, and they would be to be systems appeal of countries in the world. this is different, it is more simplistic, it's been one size fits all. our size is the correct size. we deemed it appropriate to how humanity will move forward. and if you don't, if it's all, i'm thinking of nato members like turkey and, you know, not only not in, in the church as it where you're out. i what is it that called a hungry, any liberal in august? well, it's just a fine if you just, you know, some of our panel story and the justice and the people remember how the soviet union all the conscious that the controllers and the, even in the grammar, even the in the central a, c, e o, b double people's power that works with terry and society. so when you have

people who basically leave by them or you have these and i will go even further than the whole. i mean look at, we had to thank you. thank you one, but for in the name was for many of the name of the warranty, the warranty or the 16th century during the war between catholics. unfortunately, for the right way to have what is the right way to do now people do with job over the program would be a piece of paper in, in a balance. walks about just call the people take part in these directions and that will heal. it is more heating people or you know, these know why it's such a good point because martin development and play here. i would say, wow, wager, at least on this is kind of an anglo saxon r v kind good. something that is sacred. ok. but the other ok,

and what the, what the, what the anglo, turn it into a secret process that is not, you know, because you think a whole program on, you know, democracy is overrated. and i like that works when it's allowed to work. ok, but it's not allowed to work to it like they do in this washington conference here . they pay homage themselves because the end goal always is a gemini, it's not a song. biden. is trying to keep this. i do excuse long list of members and you give them different rankings become closer close to the top table and you know, maybe a lot of countries with bucket number that will. but i think it's interesting to know the countries that weren't saying no, this, this model is outdated. i mean, you know, to me, protestants, i'm going to go say, i'm a british, you know, we're looking at it when you look at the puritanism, i think, is what you're talking about. the english 1819 africa. this started with british, wanted our british missionaries going into a,

showing the lights into the darkest idea is to very much alive today in the bible camp. i think he's a concert or 2nd. but, you know, the anglo saxon period with the small to, to let you know, resulted in people like in i being assassinated to quit brucely. because the content of the chief american, one of the british one to justify it was money. but he's our s o b, you know, and i think that summed it up perfect and elitist. hi, polluted puritan is asked, you know, will, will living. i mean, it doesn't. what, that's what's most important here. i mean, you can have ideas. but if they don't lame that they'll work, then they're obsolete and they're in excuse. and one of the interesting things is you, you look at the, the bob, this is really, really quite amazing that they would take of things when the world is essentially on fire. but in the sovereignty of other countries,

this is what it's all about. make a drive, a huge wedge between democracy in sovereignty. because russia, as i don't know, obviously deficiency, it's sovereignty, it should not be recognized. ok, china, all these other things. it's in the democracy as opposed to sovereignty, and this is a, you know, when i spoke to this conference, i mean, she used the religious language. keep all the more cautious and getting stronger. that sounds like a mission and mercenary, i'm sorry. and the same. i'm at the same time like country is faith or in the majority, you know, a g or they, they will not with us now. it was minorities or something. you know, but you're absolutely right. i mean, the real, the real division of the all right,

is between the last and the global. so, and that everyone will she be critical in this conference? well then the same question which in america, if you're a ship and people that talked about absolutely different things and they raised other issues and that and then they said that the real gap is between salt, which does not want receipts. i mean, even our sanctions against russia, all the war, you know, in your code as the, when they say, oh, you must impose those sanctions are quite, we have the resources and you know that the west has even, even with the state. it's a european union, a countries are suffering awards from the sanctions that the ball was going. russia you is becoming industrial and you wage to be a exactly demand. if that's exactly my martin me again. i'm glad team prop isn't

because this whole sanction regime is another means to impede the development of the global. so they did, they do look to historically, to the north, north, those 2 things a lot. you guys have a lot of prosperity and a lot of safety. we're on board for that. that's the agenda. we want you to soon call from them. but we want security. we want prosperity in this is being impeded again by the west. mar. yeah, but the deal is you have those of uncle sam and you know, and if you don't do that, then politics kicks in and you become ostracized. you become identified as the primary and turkey not what. why will they know? i'm going to like it was not invited to the conference is both of those leaders are recalcitrant rebut. don't ask how high when america says german countries, edwin albany, are facing presidential elections. and that is very much a trick if you like, a ruse by biden, to not give them political support, uncle,

and very hypocritical. and i don't know how much model has, i mean, if you look at, we go back to it's interesting, we have to leave you claim to one side because we don't need to bring in the ukraine. we need to really to completely blast this entire circus out of the water is when we talk about human rights is talk about israel. israel is the greatest perpetrates of human rights on the planet. how can we actually give any credence was farcical, the zoom things that bind was put together when indians are treated like animals, they have been dehumanized. they don't know longest was stolen last year by israelis, palestinians were just kitchen, knows the long term objective of the israeli government, which is to of palestinians. that's the idea. let with the bind administration was upset with judicial report. i mean, again, that's absolutely stunning, that this is when you'll speak up. yeah. and so do we accept

that the have to be exemptions? elite is anglo saxon puritanism kind of club, you know, which is, you know, or do we say no, you know, you got to lead by example and somebody is going to put their foot down and, and do something about it so. so i think um, i think this is just not a bunch going to go very far. i think the danger of these, these old things, these organizing is that they're actually going to be a rod for is i'm back and the world is the most of the world is not interested in the currently gentlemen. they're not, they don't fear the west like these do or it would marrakech and here in mosque i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are the see you next time with children at st. in residential school, self use torture and child rape in the office of the attorney general suppressed identified the perpetrators in the school. i was electrocuted 1st,

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