and unfortunately with our present prime ministers, a decent man, i don't think he's the milan figure that is a limited vision of the world. and he automatically wants to think, well, of a french. i mean, always he's got morris, i would say is not my line as well. but navy, we shouldn't even perhaps focus on him because it's bipartisan is, is often emphasize in washington. as of, i don't know, we, on small stations in connecticut, they're celebrating the, the amount of investment from australia, defacto in their military industrial complex, and arguably at the expense of the australian taxpayer. why is it so bipartisan? i mean, they must understand that the united states trade comprises less than 5 percent, 3 and a half percent. and the chinese trade is more than 25 percent. well, australian sentimental about allies. their sentimental, about big,

96 carrying the british or the american flag. i like uniforms, uniforms of our friends, some australia, we say, well, much australians, i was just trying to rename that for. now larry, of china. you know, old. nursery, if you like. but he's coming to play with china's concern for the mansions. and unfortunately, we've gone down the wrong path. we allowed american advisors to become very prominent in defense. we got quite a number of american admirals on almost missed a comment to dance their influence surveys even widespread. they managed to persuade morrison to destroy what was a reasonably good deal with the french and the fury of

a president not wrong. i replaced it by very bad deal with america. uneasy when he came into office, held onto the advisors who had advised laura on this matter. he didn't get rid of him, he should have and now she's coming home to roost. very surprisingly, there isn't maxwell against this now. it was done by particularly from the commons to but also by an extremely bright and capable editor of an independent online journal. goes in there with john energy secretary agronomist. i wanted to john and he has a carriage or my single handedly a very lively critical device. on this decision, the government tried to basically then to complete the

axiomatic and didn't require any device. but now this is happening just in recent days. it is a stain on the foreign minister garrison's wagon in a very effective way flashing out a criticisms for booking said the worst international decision by an australian government, and billy has tried to interest introduce conscription. of course, australia have supported the invasion of vietnam by the united states on mainstream media, so called mainstream media australia. keating is referred to in the morning as the chinese spies that the state of debate in australia that it doesn't matter of in an easier malaysia. your neighbors are against it. keating is basically some sort of chinese front. that's how i really being discussed in your country. it is pretty childish and pretty personal. they either say things like that or they sign the p a which is completely with jobs.

but i mean, guarantee evidence question to pretty important. why is, when he said what, what we're doing is surrendering our sovereignty and surrendering now capacity to texas. is that i was trying to interest in a reversal life ahead. we were simply going to be fact in america. i think myself go, we're simply going to be stuck in there. it worry nicer. american c a . s necessary? it's extremely white. was trailer. is it kind of new you grain? yes. yes, a little and swayed by this relation, america will stand by the parallels a pretty pretty scary actually in fantasy britain always says that 8 as an

independent nuclear deterrent just by criticism that it's as a technology controlled by washington. what about the non proliferation treaty? i mean, you can states, britain in the united states applying weapons grades, enriched uranium to a non nuclear australia. does that mean? i don't know. china, russia can supply weapons grade in rich uranium to iran. what sort of precedence is it set? very bad president. obviously, there's also the issue with a nuclear waste from a subway, any plans on how to dispose of the nuclear weapons. no classical, she'll be right. i will find a way to muddle through. we have, we have a history of a central tried it, letting us so used as a convenient place, a and we don't see the lunch,

not history interested. there is also that history of a qu effectively in your country in the 19 seventy's, when you did have a leader who opposed u. s. foreign policy, and i wanted to naturalize minds and thought about removing the military bases. the united states military base is ants and gulf whitland. one said, world war 3 could begin in australia. no one would know it. at the moment, there is no real opposition to all those u. s. bass with northwest cape pine gap, nor anger. just a few of them, the cia base, their bambi supplied from guam no real talk about is in the australian media this control of australia by the united states. not really we, we've taken refuge in the midst of these quote joint facilities and we have us in the command and control it's not true. we don't. and in fact, it was

a story the night before. we're going to remove literally he had announced his colleagues and decision to ask american closed station here our springs which played a key role in tranquilizing and, and controlling really american medical satellite sizing. the sky, which was involved in the targeting of nuclear against russia in level 3 in japan. gap is always been extremely important that continues to but it's got worse than that. we actually have permanent rotational di seem rather or william rice permanent rotational. there are always american bases because i was sitting in the field in northern australia. now, when the nuclear guy know we can assume that and then it will be around there or something like 2000 american moraine permanently,

let's say. so it's a bit like the bowling drug, labor prime minister, the frustrated to become part of the american war, making the same in, in asia. and this has nothing dramatically to visit the stranger. it's simply about australia becoming completely locked in to the american attempt to contain china village generally with ren additional resource, naturally slash inc. i mean anything that actually going to america, but more importantly, we know that we are in the position of an expandable proxy. now, the american wants to send a signal to china. china wants to send a signal to america, gets resolved without actually entering american mainland attackers in australia.

will china sent on august sa, demonstrates a british american australian for the sake of their own geopolitical interest, complete disregard for the concerns of the international community and a walking further and further down the bottom. aaron, danger, and i should say, professor jenny hawking who helped the world understand the gulf whitland saga and how he was removed is asking for an apology for the now king charles, because of the papers have been released about the british government involvement, that alone the cia in the overthrow or a replacement of golf whitland. any idea if you think amongst foreign policy makers, perhaps in nato countries, that as the poverty increases in australia, people will start to ask why 300 and why hundreds of billions. and we don't know how many billions is going to be spent on buying american and british nuclear submarines to perhaps attack china while people at home a hungry that discussion strategy.

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the part we choose to look so common ground ah, welcome back to going, undergoing. i'm still here with former australian government advisor and ambassadors, poland, and cambodia. tony kevin, you're talking about energy prices. i mean, the fact that the americans can threaten australian politicians if they don't fulfill their obligations to as vassal state status as it were. what they could threaten an attack like nord stream. i mean you think that's i her, she was. people can watch our interview with him. recently, after he wrote on a sub stack about the eco terrace act by jo jo, by you believe joe biden ordered that attack on the north stream? absolutely off. i have no doubt so ever. unless interested is more interested in american friend into an american enemy. somebody, some of these, i'm a citizen,

we have this disbelief in america. do such things when, when i was growing up on this hollywood a major american a wish we don't really understand. i'm very curious going from the social, psychological and economic stresses of the manager which will continue very, very painful adjustment to know. well we, we want to stay in america's corner for as long as possible. i'm talking about the general and he was writing a very critical i would have a regular slash really. but of course all this trade is going on with jain or a lot of people talking about the dollarization. could that be the, the move in australian political circles is they realize that they're having to do

more and more trade in chinese currency rather than us dollars. is that, is that the factor a technical issue on this? we can go, you know, selling a mineral and cultural china. i think there's an assumption way she found that it's a very, very complacent country. i don't think it's a country that feels on this right. china, not yet anyway. and i think china and really puzzling to know how to do it because i'm a lucky talk when, when they are our biggest, biggest economic. why, why we got about a do you think the orchestra will really actually happen given it

so long term people doing 2030 is time and people often even in the united states. think thanks. funded by the pentagon saying the world to look very different in 20 to 30 years time, if already g, b by purchasing power parity is led by china and china will be the super and perhaps they will be less bond buying in the united states. and the dollar will be less used around the global 1000 chang. i cooperation organization, countries that breaks the august the part of the august feel. it involves the building of, of nuclear submarines and emitter. australia will out and, and crew is a very long way off and that may never happen. i think what will happen rather more quickly is that they see that american nuclear submarines in australia with maybe some token training programs with australian silas gun on the christian side for which why the toilets on, on the south brain, that kind of thing. and, but it won't be serious, it'll effectively american basically,

and maybe in person, maybe in down and immediately of course, making those cities higher on the list and likely targets and they would otherwise be. so that kind of, it could happen quite soon. and of course, with low money from australian to american builder at the of the american membranes visiting his name well that, that could happen was even though poverty is increasing in australia, back and back at home. i mean, as regards the ukraine, how is it being reported in australia, standard vessels state terms, the russia suddenly unprovoked decided to invade the largest country in europe. absolutely. channel vessels, j narrative. touch it

a little bit by the memory of the image. 17 malaysian am on or over the was on an eastern new crime in the 1st year. that was the russians we had on this program. one of the people supporting us policy said, well, the improved western nation is a right intended to cast blame on the rush, which is a very good at mounting. now. i intended to rush around the bush unless it wasn't to rush unless it was right in michigan. a marion post, it was a theater in which i had instructed hundreds of local people to sheltering basement with the full intention of blowing up the theatre over them, killing them. ukrainian regime here,

pricing is ruthless with the lives of inch of its russian speaking citizens. because like i forgot that was really right to mention was you know, so then he clearly denies that. and all those journalists who declared victory in libby are in iraq, et cetera, and their progeny in that circle, mainstream media in nature, countries reject all of that. they say it's all russia's fault. good china, preemptively. i mean some people in the communist body of join are attack because she didn't bring in previous leaders for no acting sooner against the necklace of basis that surround china. that today, act pre entity, could they act preemptively against australia and try other means to stop in 20 is time the threat of nuclear missiles being stationed more permanently a more efficiently in australia that a targeting beijing or chang i. if we were extremely foolish and provocative, yes,

make good. good. i'm hoping that there would be enough common sense in australia to know the danger signals. if we are going down that road we, we, we have never been to such a dangerous ally now coming price out, richly, very conservative. i'm going to lie to todd. that's quite a few australia. this is, do write a book called dangerous ally on just a little in the way that you actually are. yeah, it's always after they serve in office, they write the books that show us a very different site to what is going on in this alleged vassal state. julianna's hunch has been on this program. he's currently going to view in special rapport, who's now left

a voice mail to be able to see those interviews. res talked about british alleged torture of julian hassan, general australian citizen, and perhaps the most famous journalist in the world. what is albany is a doing to get him freed? he says he's personally advocating for him, but no signs of london freeing him from this maximum security prison in bel much no, no, no sign of pressures improvement in julian's condition whatsoever. and when now compound in this, by allowing no strain in citizen and foam, or american citizen and pilots in a flush, a 20 is today. well, that is quite a while since wife and children 6 children talked into a maximum security prison in a 2 by 4 made a cell i extradition to america. this is another another case from emerald

daniel dugan who isn't as well then of course, as junior sanchez, a, he left his american citizenship and relied on the protection of australian citizenship and found himself 20 years later on this marriage is, are obviously not as famous a case of julian assange, why do you think the australian government and authorities and secret services, and perhaps the cia control is behind it? on attacking you, you are senior diplomat. you're advising on foreign policy in previous decades. crucially, ambassador to poland, back then during the cold war, do you find yourself an attack or is it by a mission? do they just not invite you on television programs to try and keep what you say

from the australian public? it has certainly been an attempt to, to make me in on this and to publicly challenge my voice in australia. it's a long time since i've worked with 1998. so that's 25 years ago. but no other good on that you worked with share your views and the current ambassadors of the diplomatic. i mean, maybe you're not in touch with them. they don't share your worry for the future of australia or if it continues to tie itself to washington. a declining power is considered by many unless even within the united states. quite a few do, share my concerns, but i tend to compartmentalize i tend to be a big picture man. most of my colleagues tend to think of america reservation country with that's the wrong thing. i. i see it a passionate imperial hint, money behavior. and i've also committed a guy with the other side of a russia,

which was my country of 1st posting is basically a nation country and an admirable country in many ways that it is one of the most effective leaders in the will. the other one is j. so i'm probably why the on the kyle. but there are, there are a great many colleagues, obama advisors advising him on what will happen to countries like indonesia, malaysia, your regional countries. it all seem to be turning as you just said, to the idea that a new century is born in china, russia. these are major powers of this century. amidst the declining economic and geopolitically failing united states of america, well, the countries of the region put their sites in the, the only international law that we have,

which is the one that was negotiated after world war 2, the united nations and security gas based international florida. they, they, my russia in china, steadfast, she standing by that you and they still, despite incidentally the manifest the ration of so many you, a nation changed by the united states. ration is an organization like the organization for the prevention of chemical and become worthless. so many agencies have become corrupted by american power, american bribery, american threats to, to pay us, you know, but if you go back to the central going of the united nations and the russians who shine is continue to speak resolutely to the, to the bank of america. on the, on the hand is the writing is trying to, to cancel struggles and roach,

not asian countries actually close for the good order and good radical. and they can see this. so can african countries like reagan countries pull the national straight follows aren't precisely enough to be able to say it. yeah, we will have to thank you and that's it for the show. and remember going underground is world gusting twice a week every saturday and monday. so stay tuned. meanwhile, you can keep in touch wireless social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to channel going underground tv and rumbled and come to watch. new and old episodes are going underground few. ah, oh, nice russians state narrative, i'm calling those landscape destination american house, all sunset for a group in 55 when. okay,

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