the arctics us were put into we separate the specific category. so that is why almost all of our indian partners are quite well acquainted with russian policies and our projects, specifically in the regions of the far east and the arctic. i'd like to remind you that india is the largest consumer of our yahoo to diamonds that indians make use of i believe that 14 out of 15, diamonds in the world right now are cut in india, particularly in the state of gujarat. a home state of indian prime minister modi. so everybody there is well informed about our far east and the arctic hills. it's been a couple of days since my return from a business trip to india. i'd like to point out that russia has some kind of mass and popular supports in india. the majority of indians read the english language press. not all articles and columns are written by indian journalists, as many of them are coming from an english speaking discourse. despite this,

more than half of india citizens to support the russian federation in florida, but just liquid. they see that china considers the northern c route as a geo strategic imperative. that is because of the fact that china must model situations of navigation through traditional ribs, across the street of malacca. and in the south china seen when they could be significantly complicated by the political and military situation in the region. them, it is no secret that there are tensions there from time to time due to the presence of the us 7th fleet. it is vitally important for china to open alternative routes as a country that is the largest importer and exporter of resources and the state that is dependent on the conditions of its c rental vehicle. so china could also go east and north, not only west at the start when you need those to

nadisa pick up our so called western partners produced one sided, unfriendly actions in the arctic counselor. such moves destabilize the arctic. the arctic is the roof of humanity. we can do something in the arctic, only based on common effort, if half of the arctic will live according to the rules of the russian federation, and another half lives according to different regulations than such, a situation will bring chaos widget house for more of the latest news updates as well as documentary needs and discussion. you can check our website, r t dot com will be back at the top of the out with the latest news up. they will see that ah ah ah

ah ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock or all things considered. i'm peter lavelle from a called the conflict in ukraine, a war of attrition, others claim russia is pursuing its own strategy on its own time table. however, there is ample evidence to camp regime is losing and badly, and this is why this stage of the conflict is so dangerous. ah,

crow, sucking the conflict in ukraine. i'm joined by my guess brian electric in bangkok he is a geo political analyst and a former us marine. and in london we have drill consent, a he is the founder of aka consulting and a foreign affairs analyst company. tell me want, and i would appreciate it. this is a situation that is not, and nobody is interested in back with a revised edition meant until you realize how i'm elements i possibly russians worked out this shows how the west things that people can, you know, keep on going with, with not asking questions or how the corporate media can somehow neg kick the problem loan to grass without giving the answers to the legitimate questions. i mean, i is, the russia would have been a perpetrator of this terrorism taco on its own

infrastructure. i'm pretty sure that the news cycles in the western media would remind us every single 2nd about this fact that the investigation has to be conducted, but never is the legitimate call to discuss this. the un security council forum it's being raised by russia or other countries like china. somehow the, the us lead camp is bearing the, the topic under the ground and it's not willing to to, to move forward. so, to any thinking person, the answer is very clear. and i think that although it's highly unlikely, the perpetrators will be brought to justice. after conducting this terrorist

attack, i think that this will have a long lustig repercussions not only on the image of the united states and west, most definitely germany as a sovereign countries. but also i think it might trigger a very convenient actions from the countries which i'm not so willing to to, to address. i mean, to get away. oh, about the it's very, very simple to both brian and andrew here. i mean, if, if these people that perpetrated or willing to lie about this, what else they lying about, that's the obvious line and of logical reasoning. people are going to have and then you, then there would be a whole reassessment of why there is this proxy war against russia and ukraine of all places here. that's why they can't. you know, the people that did this. they won't even answer questions. they won't even put

them in selves in a position of being asked the question, that's how bad it's gotten. and that gives, it gives it away but gives away the game. everyone knows hope they won't answer questions about that. well, i guess we know who did it anyway, i did. what does it start to program on that? well, obviously we're going to be following this. you know, why? because most of the world that wants to why ok, hi brian, what? it's changing gears a little bit here. i mean, i'm very worried at this stage of the conflict here because ukraine is essentially a spent force. their propaganda efforts in the west are sputtering. there are too many questions arising about capacity to with ammunition, with men. and then you have this very weird mixture of crimea. you know, well, if you take part of take crimea back that we can have negotiations and then the u. s. as well though, that's probably not going to happen. least not this year, not next year. here, i mean, they seem, this is mean like a role roulette wheel to me. i mean, they're looking for their lucky number to try to move forward,

but there is no lucky number. this is a, a debt in for the west are not going to win. there and how, how they get out of it is anyone's question right now. and what i worry about is a false flag and things like that because that's the only thing that's going to mix things up in our major way. brian. absolutely. and you just asked, what else will they? why about? well, there are lying about the status of this proxy more there, waging and you crate against russia and you're right, better absolutely, out of everything. and as a matter of fact, is starting to admit that all across the western media, i'll be in a very incremental way. and it, it really is clear that this is all in a traditional war that russia was prepared for. nato is not. and as we have seen many times in recent history, a desperate west is a very dangerous was a false flag, is one possibility. i think the temptation to either themselves or by picking

a nother proxy, perhaps poland, create some sort of buffer zone in western ukraine. and really test that red line that russia has as established. it really is leading toward a very catastrophic direction and nowhere in sight as any talk of piece. yeah, i'm glad that brian brought that up. having a 3rd party enter the complex on the ground, poland or a group of coalition of the willing is they like to call it here. that would be absolutely disastrous because i could guarantee what the rest and reaction would be . go ahead a ro, i mean, as well. i agree with you guys. i mean, it's a very boring that even the people are starting entertaining, such construct as peacekeepers sending peacekeepers, i mean the who will be involved in the peacekeeping missions of the troops which are part of the nato,

a member states. so they trying to work around a way how to in person involve nato without calling it a personal involvement. although everyone knows that the mercenaries and the logistic guys are already on the ground and, and helping them. i mean, it's outrageous, but we have to understand that it is not a proxy wall only between the west and the, and russia. but what is here at stake? it is not here at stake. what popular western media is saying that it is will between democracy and talk prosy. it is a world re ordering a battle because the unit for the moment is already gone and the west and the united states no did very well. so they trying to somehow drive away to between russia and china, now we know that to morrow,

i missed the amount of them on my crone. is it traveling to china before we have the prime minister of spain going to china? and also we're still going to lay in is trying to will be trying to persuade, exceeding thing to, to somehow size a with, with, with the west of the same time to meet with jimmy. about what is the purpose for succeeding thing to, to talk to jenny sky, i'm sorry to say it, but honestly, he's a puppet. i mean these being, you know, ridiculously power with money and the weaponry from, from the west without the west end. and the money from, from the united states, this country would be a failed state, which is the factor already. well, i agree with having to have the conversation with someone who's being sponsored. if

someone is being sponsor you talking to the sponsor, not to the person who is being sponsored, does my, my lord be fine beyond my thinking? well, i'm sure the chinese are very well aware of that. ok. brian brought the term piece people. what pieces are to be kept in ukraine? this is this orwellian language. we like to play on. it's all the time. no, it will only add to the complex and it will escalate that conflict. and there is no there's. there's no one knows where that could end if there was a direct or quasi nato intervention with troops. that would be utterly catastrophe . go ahead, brian. it would, and it all depends on russia, ends the u. s. proxy war against russia and ukraine, and the conflict that the united states is trying to engineer with china has been entirely up to both moscow and beijing to act in a mature and rational way. to try to read the rex world affairs away from

a direct confrontation with the west, the west just as well just as what was just said about the unit polar moments being over there still desperately trying to reassert it. and as the window of opportunity close closes, they become more and more desperate in their thinking and then their actions. think about how dangerous the us invasion and occupation of eastern syria was. and us troops in, or, you know, working past russian troops and how, how many close calls are, were already there. and now everything in ukraine is the stakes are so much higher . and that's exactly where we're going to talk to talk about when we return from our break gentle. and we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the conflict. anyway. let's stay with archy.

ah louise hunter, russian state will never. i've stayed as anton and ignore some scheme, devastation that can cause a thin 50 battle defeat. okay, so 9 is to fargo speaking with will ban in the european union, the kremlin. yup. machine estate aunt rush up to date and c r t spoke neck. given our video agency, roughly all band to on youtube and with

a with welcome back. across stock were all things are considered on peter labelle. to remind you we're discussing the conflict in ukraine. right now we're joined by another delay he in moscow. he is a political consultant. i don't know it. well, before we went to the break, we're talking about the end of the unit polar moment and how that makes the world a very, very dangerous place. or no, everyone know is a hedge. amman does not give up easily and they will fight into a corner. and take as much down around them, it is necessary,

and this is what we're seeing right now. we started out the program talking about how the endured stream stroke stream pipeline destruction is a story that won't go away. and we see this all through that would be global south, while people having questions about the motives of western powers and their onslaught against russian. we should all point out, as we mentioned in the 1st part of the program, china is involved in this here. and the message, i think the chinese fake is look, the russians are taking on entire collective western world. and they're still standing. and that is something the global south china, india and other countries are observing here. and that's what makes this situation, this time in this conflict. so dangerous, go ahead. are no in moscow. well, you know, you some, that all well, the 500 your gemini, of the west. he's coming to an end and him time the west attend to somewhat delay the inevitable. it seems that they get caught up in this quicksand phenomenon and

now they're in panic. sheer panic. and we, she basically that the emperor has no clothes. so we basically all 4 rational actors to be able to emerge out of this mess. but obviously the u. s. foreign policy is driven by ideological concerns. and this is where the danger lies. if you ask me, you know, we've had people like the boy and you'll and then all of the federal travelers, eyes actually, you know, i mean, treading the claim file for quite some years now. and they are backing everything on bubbling down on the situation. and this is way, gets dangerous now because obviously the ship is looking for me everywhere i foot guy is taking stock of it's all i want you to deal with in the ukraine. fulcrum

jain. now you standing back then as you on the line of learning, you know, pretty much and nato is a big dog. and so we have this kind of so real session that you know, we could all get a lot of devil and discuss things burying on security concerns for russia and slowly but surely paving the road for a more diverse world. unfortunately, the people right now would draft the cross us flying policies are hell bent on making sure that the unit remains in doing show, the biggest mis reality, whether it's on the ground, whether it's whether it's about the soft power, which not that long ago. when we think about it used to define the west, the west is increasingly being left out as an observer absorber of

its own minds. brian is absolutely right. the 1st part of his answer is absolutely spot on. is that the, the west is fighting an ideological conflict. the rest of the world is thinking about sovereignty, prosperity, even international law. and that's what's making this. so a symmetrical, and that's why the messaging in the media can confuse, quote unquote, the masses in the west. because they're being fed a pack of lies. i mean democracy. burke is versus a talk receipt. come on. i mean, this is such a ridiculous binary. ok? a lot of countries that are democracies and have wonderful relationships with asian . that's not the question that is in play. here, but that is what western audiences are being fed and what, god forbid, quote unquote, democracy fail. so when you set it up this way, you're setting yourself up for failure. go ahead, brian. absolutely. and when you read the western media, they talk about an isolated russia finding support in every,

in places like asia, africa, and south america, which is pretty much the entire planet, isn't it? except for the us in europe. they have this idea that they're isolating russia or isolating china, but in reality, they're isolating themselves. and it is because of this irrational, desperate necessity to reassert unit polarization, which was irrational to begin with. and each day that goes by, it becomes more irrational. and these are people that are in power right now, who lacks the skill sets to actually invest in word in their own societies and create a constructive role for their nations within multi polar. it's on the unfortunately, it's going to be up to nations like china in russia to create the conditions on the ground that make this physically impossible for them to continue on with these conflicts. and this subversion that we see them sewing everywhere around the globe . it's so brilliant when you said about the internal problems of these countries

here, actually it is really quite interesting. this is the same group of people that in the united states are going after donald from still again. i don't care if you like or dislike donald trump. it's not important here, but they're going after him. they're going after his supporters. ok. this mindset in this foreign policy mindset. it is annihilation of the enemy. there is no tolerance, it's all, it's all kind of a moral hygiene issue with them. we feed in foreign policy, we see it in domestic policy in the west, particularly the united states. go ahead in london. and we have to bear in mind a few days ago, there was a summit for democracy organized by the united states. and many countries were not willing to sign up on this. i mean, the final community was not signed by among many other countries by brazil, and mexico. and it's quite astonishing because of my so my father is from east africa is from vanya. and i'm quite familiar with the voices on the ground. and i

forgot which i'm not interested in any, any, any, any war which is taking place on the european continent. last month on, in march, i was in india for one month. and i had many conversations with my contemporaries and people involved in politics and also international affairs. i was saying, you know, this is not very convincing that the west is trying to push people to be on board with them because the, the multi polo is much more convincing and, and it's getting much more opportunities to the people who have been receiving of the liberal international order, and we know how liberal international order looks like, especially as we discussed at the very beginning of, of, of, of this show when it comes to an old stream pipelines. so the former world

is neo colonial world. people who didn't have any say in the, in the pause now has before room in russia and in china where they can express legitimate concerns without being you know, bribe or. busy kills. busy oh, and they have an equal platform where they can, you know, participate with the countries on equal footing. so i think the european union or the collective was doesn't understand the reality and, and they will and much as a loser of the multi ball away. i'm not sure how they are going to come up with the new ideas, be more creative and how, how they are going to manage to, to, to live with other people and coexists in the world. but i think in the grandchild

way, i think that before the new was older, will emerge. something very bad will happen, as many people are saying, and this is my greatest concern. before we will see the live in the tunnel, the darkness will fall. yeah, one, fortunately with these people in power, the lights at the end of the tunnel is another type train coming at you. ok? that's where we are right now. our no, let me. i didn't think that's the, the, the democracy someone was going to be brought up because it was so frivolous. but it is an interesting point here because the western definition is neo liberal definition of democracy is actually a cudgel to maintain, had gemini, that's, that's, this is a discursive trick that they're playing on. all of us here is that if, if you're, if you're not for democracy, that means you're against that. that means you're a poor, a talk receipt, which is again, a ridiculous binary. nobody, nobody in the world really thinks that way. not even these mandarins in power in

london, brussels in washington. go ahead here in moscow. yeah, i think you've pretty much something all love. we're dealing with almost like 2 ships passing by each other in the, in the heart of the night. yeah. but i know all the what is shooting at the other? yes. i'm sorry, keep going. but again, like i say, you know, was in the, you're gone, someone. busy want to say that they do not reverse gear. that's what i thought. let's l bands on demand thing their vision. you know, this goes way back, you know, with we will more our listeners with the, the documents. but when one recalls the iraqi, she warns all those people were promoted, they were never called into or out. and when the w n b, a reports do for a report in 2004 came out. and it was pretty much made official that the original

excuse or pretext for the siegel invasion was completely debunked. pretty much almost lost daughters. and so, you know, they might have been on the wilderness what years, but somehow managed to latch on on to the right party. and she's with the liberal, interventionist, and they, by now the entire spectrum of u. s. foreign policy. and school way. this is pretty much us situational, where we are on this one. we're trying to find the boarded, the doors from within and we just can't seem to get him out there and reassert was all over the train. so i would go when the last speaker said, you know, unfortunately i think, you know, i wish i was wrong on this, but to extend the multiple, the world is why is it it's so long term? have you try and we might still have a, an accident, and this is what, well,

i think that's really the essence of this program. we all agree that there's a major shift, a pair of demick shift going on here. can we get through it without destroying the world? that's the big question here. but there's a lot of people in power that will not tolerate a change in the status quo. and that's what makes it a very dangerous gentleman. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my gets in bangkok, london, and here in moscow, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time, remember process with ah, ah

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