for trump in his plan and return to the white house next year. rick sanchez is direct impact, explores that the all over the world. and here of course not, you beat you. one of the most visited archaeological sites seen this type of thing, occur over and over again. in fact, peru seems to be setting records for political instability. it seems like no president can stay in office. but, and here's the question, is that of its own doing? we're going to explore that. so what's the news with this? this latest case? well, it's about the guy who's in the center of this store, and let me tell you his name. his name is pedro castillo and you know what? he's different. i mean, this guy's really different. castillo is the closest thing to a true peruvian than there has ever been. he grew up poor. i mean,

this guy grew up really poor. he was a school teacher. he was raised, didn't literally a mud hut. and this guy goes on to become the president of a country where that usually doesn't happen. why? well, i'll tell you what. because the business class in peru usually gets one of their own in the presidential palace. you know the folks in lima, money class, and more often than not, they do so with the help of our country, the united states of america. that's right. the u. s. has a long history of electing. i'm going to use this word because in many cases it's the truth, puppets, puppets, in latin america, and places like peru, in fact, peru has been one of the places where it's so given that the guy or the gal elected is going to be, let's just say beholden the washington casteel it appears was not

now is that the reason that he was remote or is it because he was legitimately corrupt? yes. left. these can be just as corrupt. righties can be corrupt as anyone else. right. so he's accused of taking money from contractors, kind of a paid to play scheme that is as old as the hills, but still corrupt. so are the charges real or, or is this may be just another case of the right with the help of the cia taking out another politician that they don't like has, has been part of a historic of latin america. good question. the answer may surprise you. the prosecutors who presented the charges against him are actually considered credible. yeah,

the charge is also seem believable. and here's may be the dagger in the heart for castillo, in terms of how he lost his gig, right? his own cabinet members, the people he put in there, right? they all bailed on him. they all said audio, se they apparently also thought that he did something wrong, maybe even crooked. but then let's look at the other side of the coin, because there's also this. as soon as this dude castillo became the president of the country, the moneyed class, the folks in lima, they be, can they began accusing him of everything and then so. so when congress finally steps in and tries to impeach him for corruption, he dissolves the congress. hang out this young, i live in clam osceola. i know lot of all young children face. though mammals, though, this is young, they establish it won't go viet rolly, his have young audience out of 7070000 issue, and i the ma, kanethia,

coy pixel. cindy, unless again, because maybe this next thing you know, he's removed from office and he's jail and that all hell breaks loose nationwide. people are taking to the streets. they're demanding that he be reinstalled and peru is once again in a quagmire. now there is also brazil almost at the same time where the trompe and president bull fernando loses his election as you've read to the populace left his little da silva. and there to all hell breaks loose once again, people on the streets. bullshit, arrow supporters also out there protesting there, demonstrating they're breaking stuff. in fact, here are some of the scenes from brazil, ya ah, yeah. and while boston aro,

supporters were on the streets and brazilian bo scenario himself was finding a new home just outside of disney world. you can't make his upright boasted arrows literally. and disney world is in orlando, florida. he did not attend lula. the silvers integration has remained generally silent. now the question is, is he going to be back or better said will the u. s. state department in the cia want him back. and joining us now is camila escalante. ah, you know, interestingly enough far, camila has a lot of experience. she works as a corresponded for rob prestige in latin america. and she's also the editor of cancer. true news, which covers a lot of these types of stories that we're going to be talking about and look to big things going on right now and latin america. what happened in peru, which i still quite don't understand. the bloodshed has been taking place for quite

some time now and then trying to understand what really happened in brazil. a country who's ex president is now in miami or orlando, florida. we're not sure. busy while the people who seem to think he should be the president, have been out on the streets. meanwhile, in peru, it's a different situation where they ousted the president. his backers are now out on the streets. they want the other president to step down figuring all of this out for us is what makes this sub so interesting. so what do we, what do we start with? the brazil if, if you, if you would like what really happened in brazil, it looks to me like the people decided they didn't like balls an arrow anymore. and they put in the guy who used to be the president. right. well, precisely, i really did when by a couple 1000000 boats on october 30th. and even before that for the last year, we've been seeing these sorts of threats of what the boston area says. the people

who support former president charleston are, would do in a scenario is lula, were to win back the presidency in the vote. and so of course, these people have been protesting in different ways. they have been urging different types of intervention and the electoral process. the election came around lula one and since october 30th, we've seen lots of protests take place, so called protests if you want to consider that. but do they have to do, or is there anything about lola's when? which was illegitimate of illegitimate enough to raise the spectrum of people properly hitting the streets and saying, this is wrong if it's wrong. what was wrong? absolutely not in a vast majority of supporters of general sar. oh sorry. the vast majority of politicians aligned the terrible snaps and his political party and the congress. the state governors had all accepted. they immediately accepted the when i'm

willing to sell that. and they congratulated him on his inauguration to have him in any way, tried to interfere with that process. so it really is select interest in the country, be agribusiness, be it. those who are behind the deforestation of the amazon. any other trans national interests they're going after? like, because a lot of the other right when governors in the country are right wing entities in the country, politicians have largely sent. let's try to work with lulac. let's see how far we can get. let's see how committed he is to pushing some sort of progressive agenda ortiz them when we can work with has also been in position and the united states is not quite ready to crew. and it seems it's so this is of easy right versus left moneyed interest versus campesinos interest argument that's taking place in brazil . pretty easy to understand the way you just laid out. let's switch now over to peru and try to understand what happened there with president castillo. busy this

guy lives in a mud hut. he's a teacher, really a poor man ah, becomes a president of the country and right away, they start hitting them and hitting them and hitting them until eventually they want to impeach him and he dissolves the congress. so there won't mpg him, and then they remove him for dissolving the congress. interesting story. i guess the 1st question i have to ask you then is, was he correct? i mean, just because he's poor, does it mean he's not corrupt? right? what was he groped yet no window of time in which to be corrupt. they were attempting to kill him. from the day he came to into power before he was even inaugurated the right wing and keiko who g maury, who was his opponent in that election of 2021, so that they would not recognize the total victory of pager castillo. they knew he someone who was deeply ingrained in the political world that he was someone who came to the period libra to run for the presidency as a union leader for very humble background. as you describe and someone who didn't

have a lot of clout, the institutions were so fragile in the country that they knew they could go and just attempts to take them out of office. and no one would be there to the phantom, wasn't someone who was very good at politics. he wasn't someone who was very good at taking advice or knowing what to do. he wasn't quite savvy. and so he was from the very beginning they were trying to out, since he had no opportunity whatsoever to even make any sort of corrupt contracts or anything like that. but, but what he did is highly questionable as well let's, let's face it. he dissolved congress dissolving congress as an extreme act. he did, he play into their hand by making himself look like the extremist very by giving them probably never actually he never was actually able to dissolve congress. he made that order and he was swiftly carried off to jail. never to the release. of course. now he's being held in pre trial detention. that order was never realized.

he ordered a number of other things, including a state of emergency, and he said that they would reorganize some of the country's main judicial institutions. none of that ever happened. he was just immediately jail, so they were planning on taking him one way or another that day or inevitably. but you know, this might be the products of receiving poor advice. he was going to figures like luis mago, the secretary general of the organization of american states, and he was also allying with some right wing politicians within the country and abandoning his own political party. so this woman, deena de warranty, who is now the president of, of peru who used to be the vice president of the room. she seems generally despised by the populace. of my overstating that in any way. while the pro libra insiders, the people on the last, who were trying to give advice, trying to save major kasteel from a coo or advising him before this even took place. watch out for dina. she's going

to be another lenny moreno as he saw in ecuador. for example, mandy said, be very careful with her. everything transpired, of course, she took power. and since then people lows her even more and more because of the massacre. 16 take place because of the bloodshed we've seen just many killings as days that she's been in power. by the way, i have a podcast where i as a journalist, as a latino and as an entrepreneur, tell my story and share with you what i've learned about exceed how to grow. it's called the rick sanchez podcast. i invite you to check it out and i will see you there. but when we come back, we're going to talk about these riots that have been taking place in the brazilian capital. and what about the us? ah

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welcome back. as the u. s. changed the way it approaches latin america, because the worst kept secret all over the world, of course, is that the united states interferes there. i mean, that's a nice way to put it ever since the monroe doctrine and the u. s. has felt it has the right a mandate almost to do as it pleases in latin america as if it were a place that has little or no independence. but what is the situation right now? did the u. s. interfere in peru, for example? and what's it going to do about brazil? we're talking to camilla is gallant and she is a fabulous journalist who well covers a latin america in particular. we've been talking of course about what's happening in brazil and what's happening in peru to countries with similar but yet not so similar situations. we got a sense from what you just told us about what's going in brazil. and when you, i interrupted you because i wanted to flush out brazil

a little more but you were about to get into why you think the situation in peru is very different please. can you take us through that? absolutely. well, whole sho, in peru that there is a very low approval rate of the spitting congress, the congress which tried to out pages because, and which net right now is running the country. they call it a parliamentary dictatorship. and this is across the country, you know, prove the country that has right, has had many, if you guys are probably discuss many presidential aspect years or so, let's say 6 presidents and it's a country where there are very extreme level of poverty. it's very difficult. country to be a working class or person, envision of percept. there's a lot of racism, there's lack of opportunity for young people. and so there's a lot of reasons why people might be very unhappy with what's going on. they finally brought so much from the popular factors of indigenous communities from the teacher union to power someone who they believe representing them. and it might not

necessarily be the best leader that who has to offer, but that's who they voted for. and they stand by that and so right now people have taken quite across the country in, in a grassroots manner. there are a lot of people, not necessarily the same political party. they don't necessarily support the same political leaders on the left or from the indigenous communities. but what they do want to see the transformation of the country. they don't want to be their country dummied by transnational crime, by cocaine trafficking and production by a corrupt military. and corrupt politicians, and they want to be able to actually have a similar system as you see in neighboring bolivia, where the constitution protects the natural resources and the right of the proven people to control their own natural resources, their own industries, nationalize thing. and so this is the example they're looking towards. this is the

sort of platform that future castillo improve. liebherr ran on during the 2021 election, which he won. and that's the project that people still support. this is they want to see i implemented in the country and by taking picture conceal out of power. it leaves them with the same right wing in chest. never in the country. it seems like, you know, you know, that expression we all have about our children. he, he, he may not be incredible, but he's mine, you know, we, we defend our own. it almost seems like kasteel was in many ways. he was a p p was the peoples guy, right? i mean, to peruse divided into 2 parts. really there's, there's lima and the money interest in lima. and there's the rest of peru, which is laska pacino's, the countryside, of wherever all the people. and this guy was probably, if ever, there has been the embodiment of, of a guy who represented that sector. it was him, i mean, he was a teacher,

he group and i am not hard. i mean he was a, you know. busy busy a guy with the indigenous rude, so he was how much of what these people are fighting for in the streets to day has less to do with all of the things that we've all been talking about, including congress and the beach mand, and that the solvent and all of those things and more to do with the people to sing, dammit, i liked that guy. he was one of us. and i'm going to fight to get him back in office. well, i think that doesn't actually represent the majority of people. i think a lot of people want to defend their vote and their sovereign decision at the polls . they think that's important. but i think beyond that they are very happy to press for a new set of elections in which there will be new candidates for christie. i will likely not be one of them, especially because he continues to be a political prisoner today, and it might be with quarterly, but it might be with the other political party, but they want the project that they had voted on, which was

a very new defacto regime make them up of being playing a part of the cool. right. well that in of itself does not. we do see us ambassador in lima. lisa can or has a very high, an extensive profile within the cia within the state department who has worked both under republican and democratic party administration for decades with extremely important tasks. overseas speaks many languages. i mean, this is a top us security intelligence agent that they put there for very specific reasons . and she was changed and put into that post quite recently. and so as you said, she did sit down and have meetings, most of which are not secret. and we've seen all the photos of her posing with people who were part of custio's administration,

including his defense minister. but we have to remember that the people who were in major casias administration were not necessarily his choice or his 1st choice. he was forced, on many occasions from the very 1st week of his administration to change ministers and to shape his cabinet in a way in which placed the right when congress, it wasn't all people from his own pity, leave a party. and so they are meeting with people they had met with people ahead of the q at they being lisa can at the ambassador of the united states. and lima and embassy officially had sat down with members of his, of his government. and since then, she has been very fast to meet with all of the different newly appointed people under the new de facto deena rti administration. that's fascinating. well, that puts things in perspective and that makes for a great conversation. and i really thank you for this camila escalante. wonderful reporter who is one of the few people who can actually speak to these topics with

both reporting experience. i am as somebody who was a true latino living in latin america. it's a pleasure to talk to you thanks much for taking your time and sharing some of your wisdom with us. and before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. simple, really. i want to help de silo the world. we've got to stop living in these disparate separate little boxes. truce don't live in boxes, they're everywhere, right. i'm rick sanchez. i'll be looking for you again. right here where i hope to provide a direct imp ah, ah, do i believe the mag goes in? did you make or didn't know that is wrong?

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