was weekly friday prayer officials called on almost some countries to rally behind palestinians and wears awareness of these really atrocities against muslims in palestine. oh, i mean here they have built in iran dome. but more than a 100 rock had struck the zionists regime. the iron dome could intercept only a few of those rockets. they are only thought that their iron dome can prevent the inbound missiles. these really move has triggered one of the worst flareups between israel and palestinian resistance groups and a besieged gaza strip. the hamas movement has launched a volley of rockets. israeli troops also launched airstrike ward paying lip service . and instant updates. was he right back here at the top of the hour? ah, [000:00:00;00]

with i'm after that had said welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from dubai in the u. e. this week's u. s. u. k. u armed warming of syria, a human rights and geo denied access to u. k. jail journalist julian assange, that alone the assassination of a russian journalist, latin taught ascii in st. petersburg this week. no. there was just one big story in nato nations. the arrest of popular opposition leader, donald trump, who spoke on tuesday of his possible death penalty. thus prominent was the prospect of nuclear war as us politicians ignored warnings from begging, not to meet taiwanese politician saying when in california for more on nature's 2nd front as it fights russia through ukraine is collier, host of the silken seal podcast about chinese history culture and politics, he's in bali in that foundational nation of an online movement. indonesia. gotcha. thank you so much for coming on after all these years. i think many people around

the world, the what's your trick round here, your podcast that just kick off thou with what you think of i this tie when he is leader arriving. i don't know why. why do you think she's even in the u. s. she said she's going to guatemala and billy's, and it was just as she couldn't get a direct flight and had to fly through new york, which is presumably why she met the democrat. taught her house leader in a new yorker there. on the i came jeffrey's in there on the way back in the reagan memorial library to meet kevin mccarthy. the number 2 in the u. s. power structure, the house speaker. yeah, i mean of course you can get a direct flight, right. and the, the whole whole purpose of the so called latin american ship is really come to us and to publicly challenge shy. it is a highly, for lot that moves us. those us knows where china is read by china

said publicly taiwan can do whatever they want as long as they don't do not do clear. ready independence, but now us lawmakers are making statement like ty, one is in the country, we should respect island sovereignty, which is going back there. all commitment to one tie to policy that was signed by president nathan back in 1972 we premier's or life. we formed the foundation on the final american relationship ever since. so us is walking back on that because they know we're trying to spread like red light it. and just like what they do is they keep on question russia red light on push natal east words they are now trying to push us red light. i want understand for china with the pilot, just as ukrainian issue is a motional issue for the rushes for the chinese tie. one issue,

the highly emotional issue and the us just know. ready button to push and they, they're doing this because there's, there's a thinking among the pentagon that they have a very small limited time window to china, right? because china is continually to continue to write. and even by spend years, charlotte, charlotte, chinese economy will grow to scale that united states wouldn't be able to compete china, even if they want to. so the idea is happy campaign, china, they gotta do it now. get to the economic prospects in a moment, but i mean, i know that you've said that that unlike ukraine, the ukraine issue, the p l. a navy would quickly draw in direct us forces. of course in ukraine. the u . s. is, has special forces there clearly and there are some personnel, but mostly which they deny. and there are billions and billions of dollars of

equipment coming for britain in the urban union. and that once a u. s. warship was sunk, the biden administration would have to consider as they call them tactical nuclear weapons against china. yes, in fact us. busy i recently did working on china us war i one day they conclusion the issue is that without us a fall in 3 months and i saw many st. interviews on high one after that. ready break out, a lot of people were surprised. they were surprised to learn that hold out for us out because i thought it was a success from economy supplying all the semiconductors and chips in our phones. well, it is, but i went to the island on like ukraine crate, share orders. we recycle in pie one is the island chinese chinese. maybe you can

just play block a around the island and then then what all the ships cannot get out of dialing. at that point, us have a choice either intervene or fitted out of us are being threatened to nuclear arms for hours and we get a lot everyone. well i know that there was a drill last time. nancy pelosi then how speak of visited that i one seeming to contravene the u. s. his own one china policy. but how did he come to this in the 1st place? the pentagon says as 313 bases these, this from the pentagon, who knows how many black sites and what else? 313 bases before the 9 new ones in the philippines. that's out of the $750.00 outside the continental united states. why has it taken so long for china to respond as it slowly been encircled over these decades?

let alone responding to the economic warfare that's been around for quite a few years now. it's not just a tick tock. suddenly it was while way and others from the european union, sanctioned by britain for instance. so that's crazy, right? because 1st of all, the u. s. circling, china is not, not in the started $949.00 after the stablish china. and we, the 1st half of the cold war, us place, bases around china that started to change $972.00 when nixon, lately china car off against union. and what have changed last and 13 years in the united states. i realize certainly china, contrary to popular belief shiela could actually innovate. they are not actually, technologically, militarily, economically, and many people in washington, that is

a law to the us, germany of the world, they challenge. and so they have to do something about it for china, for a long time, trying to they could still work with the united states to do work with globalization effort that was led initially by united states. because china mostly benefit all globalization, trying to receive large action uh, western adul, bobby's own industrial capabilities. but one of the biden administration show is and ministration may change from trying to buy and buy us policy remain the same, which is to be an admin fee toward china. now, i finally gave us as wife, she's not picking up. i call the white house trying to arrange house between and by paying why macro is being sent because macro apparently is being

talking to biden before he went to aging. busy well i think macro my name. busy is all we said, because now you found a tremendous pressure because of the us post sanctions on russia. the high energy prices we lead to the industrialization of your european industrial is, are acting up and lead last winter us because us cheaper energy. and so i think my mac wrong and meters of germany are realizing that this is why, you know german leader have already a busy china. now it's my home. can you be but do you think the communist party can trust macro? i mean, obviously nature nation media, the demonstrations of mass uprisings, right across france, from bordeaux right down to the south. not quite getting the same coverages.

there's hong kong demonstrations a few years ago, but we now know that macro maybe was privy to what angular merkle alleges was that men scored which was only a way of delaying the arming for kiev and zelinski. how can micro me trusted because he was considered for a while, i think perhaps in moscow as a suitable boston of a negotiation over ukraine than it turned out. he must have known because he was immense party to the agreement before it was ratified of un security council. exactly, i mean, ultimately i said, us is wrong. very sure. your allies, they're more like baffles and clients and allies and any metre dare to go against the us line so, but nevertheless, you know, china is still extending. it's still opening the door. i'm sending out our branch

is no one knows you know, china broker the field between saudi arabia and ron, lately to surprise almost everyone. so right now, macro also understand that whatever they're doing is not. ready working whatever the nation is currently doing, the worries not a lot while for them, they're basing lation economy. they have to do something. so there's over to unity there. we'll just have to see what kind of like you said, what can bring concrete lead to that when i was surprised that china broke it, but apparently saudi iran negotiations. trump, of course assassinated. so the money was rumored to have a letter, you know, the propaganda, hearts and minds impact of the national endowment of democracy and even in jews like amnesty international. what we will watch our interview with the curious we go

representative on our rumble channel on going underground. why is it, do you think all of that didn't persuade the global south the china is evil. i know that in the past few days, the so called us intelligence anonymous sources, a briefing the media that the chinese consulate in los angeles is paying $400.00 a demonstrated to demonstrate again construct psi of taiwan. and les a, c, c i o the way and so they have to come up with a story by us for a sound. i think many people in the global south i see to the western dna more because certainly officer shows china high surprisingly very positive image among the global. so as opposed to, you know, the so called international community, which is really the lesson is

a cetera. we're talking about human rights and michelle bachelor, i mean she has a history of being tortured by the i a back regimes in chile and she said serious human rights violations in jan jang. so is it people getting bored or tired of the united nations itself? as a neutral arbiter, i know that you're in 60 general so quick to condemn russia for what russia saw as a defense of the people from cultural cleansing in on bass, in east and ukraine. yeah, i think people can see the western propaganda. i mean, just recently there was trainees, journalist edwards, she challenged a you and you spoke person for us on the question of why use us you legally. ready optimized area and you, i suppose person flatly does not believe that you are not free,

syria and the chinese journalist brought out the news by us. there is meant syria, how could us not be notary to be injured in syria. so this is, this is so obvious now to many people who were not, maybe not constantly bombarded by the western propaganda ways, people in the western subject. i mean, this is why you all the muslim countries, none of the site with us crusade on the so called young issue in china. right. right. and you have to do we have for you on the western decry why the muslim country don't care about john? well, me because they don't care about news kasha, i'll stop you. the more from the host of the phil conceal podcast after this break

. ah, the do i believe the mag? between me today? no, that's all i was on my was i very then? yes, him to give you a good thing that they're fighting for their own independent existence. then of course, should be dead. endeavored to the best of good news dev sporting them if they're thinking that they're fighting for the defense of the liberal democratic world. i think they will be the loser. ah ah,

ah, i welcome back to going underground. i'm still here and still conceals collier the nation media quick to pounds that gigi and being before arriving in moscow, said the territorial integrity must be respected and pounced on that with regard to china's peace plan. in ukraine. what does china mean? the territorial integrity must be respected as regards any peace settlement in new grained, as china seriously think the people of crimea should not give the government they want. that is a very interesting question. but if you look at the chinese magic position, you have always respecting terror. busy busy integrity and sovereignty

because china as in. busy words we should pay more for, for loss. china has tie one is part of china and we choose agree to my made by most of the countries, families, diplomatic relationship, retirement. so for china sovereignty and integrity is very important. i to say find china respect russian position in regarding ukraine and this is why when she met with me are they, they said they they're, they're okay with the chinese proposal. ready they're very much like sappy territory integrity man in china territory when it comes to europe to europe. okay. good question. well, i think what china really want is to do business or right because war is bad for business unless you are, you know,

lockheed martin or china. we want to see peace in europe and maybe, you know, then then they can roll out in ro initiative. you may need to degrade the point, ukraine's the biggest trade partner was china. so maybe that's what they thought in the pentagon in the state above, and that the british intelligence services, old china will want to keep the largest country and western europe, whose biggest trade partner is china on side and will somehow be decoupled for moscow. yeah, i me, this is, this is crazy. china understand what the china understand the game play. china did not want to see russia, ukraine, or from russia. all china will be the next target. and this isn't very clearly understood, not only by the chinese leader by even chinese,

everyone knows the us out and get china, and us is asking china, oh, why don't we, why don't you? thank you, russia. this is quite, i mean, how would china respond? you are, you are right now, slacking off again and you're expecting us to somehow out your facts. here is russia. this is ridiculous. this is why she is not returning phone call by speaking to me from bonnie is quite a by any pressure on china, which obviously probably doesn't work because of china's power. take talk chinese by balloons and firing missiles at them. the terrible legacy may be a 1000000 killed at the behest of washington in the, in denisia. how far can global south leaders like we don't go in indonesia? how can they support breaks in the jaguar ration organization because he's been saying d, dollarization decoupling changing in the economy. he must remember that easy and

history and what happens to global leaders who talk about a multi polar world by right now. everybody's talking about the dollar radiation, brazil, just sign a green sign that you to trade in, ron and friends, friends concluded allan g deal with china to be concluded, chinese r and b. so this is not just the global out. now, my problem over to be g and you have, you had us congressman marco rubio again said, you know, we don't have much time because the world is going to down the path dollarization. so bad a 5 years i won't be able to, thanks to a country because our basically admission you know what it's going to happen regardless lead us government. ready in fact,

u. s. government actually right now is pushing dollars nation to accelerate because everyone see if they stay on dollars they sanction next. you know, next, malaysia could be. thank you. next. that's why malaysian prime minister just recently made a speech malaysia should not pied is devolved in only 2 to the dollar, only they to the best asian dollars. you know, you're talking about exploring alternatives and money malays you want, can expect, arguably, my, my home. and famously refusing the i m f advice as regards privatization, neoliberalism in response to previous recessions. but what about the important ones in the region? japan, south korea. the philippines, i mean is, is a beijing just going to watch these 9 new bases appear in the philippines that can attack mainland china,

japan and south korea. they both have in us client. they follow us large military presence in both countries just in case because long inside of us you're influenced. but ever since you walk through our day looking at. busy trying to explore alternatives we china was. ready and even today with the new president, he's trying to get on the boat for us, he can get some military from china, acknowledge investment, right, right. because right now doesn't offer anything other than a weapon. you to china is the one that told me to do to which of course ne donation media say, oh, in fact we got john perkins on the conventions of the globe hit man, he's turned against china and said, chinese replacing the washington consensus. institutions of bretton woods, they're just going to be the same. they're leaving indebtedness in the global south . well,

what chinese joy and give offer our heard before we only have global domination can only lie in that world bank laws. and we all know the predatory nature of that and world bank. now they can go say, hey, i can, maybe i can get a better deal with china. i don't have the state would. you weighs you world bank unless you gimme a better term. you know, competition is always good and at the same time, you know, nobody, china is not holding on gone to leaders to force them to, to sign, to sign on to enroll initiative. african, you have to respect african countries for their own agency. this is the women that african leaders are willingly enter into agreement. we shine it to class so it's not, it's kind of i think it's kind of ready to suggest that africa. i don't know what they're. busy back there,

but what is the reaction going to be from the united states? i mean, you believe her, she is allegation that the north stream is blown up and destroyed in the west eco terror attack by the, by an administration with the ca, presuming you do, do believe that? well, surely that can cause havoc to chinese investments right around the world if it's capable of doing that because they denied completely. can china withstand, i mean, usually it just puts drill on and does a bit of talking. it's not supplying lethal a to russia even for ukraine, arguably saudi arabia, which doesn't take the phone calls in the us, where i'm speaking to you from doesn't take phone calls from biden. they just, well in the past week went for it regarding oil prices. what is china actually doing to defend itself trying to

sign it just authorize the increase of military budget by percent. and the chinese navy has been expanding at their wrapping labels alarm, because they know if it's chinese surely mobilized, they can produce military hardware and much faster. ready to walk me for the right . now, all the worlds industry in china, china is a country that may states us. you want to have a formation where we can produce, produce ponds to join us. and this sold and, and destroyers than right now. the trying to maybe have world one of the world's most best mister destroyer type, 55 us us plan destroyer. people are looking at

the blueprint of the design and people wonder if us just trying to copy the chinese except the us us, the latest us destroyer. one p won't be read, the budget won't be approved. 2030. so, you know, so right now i don't think us ran a conventional war against but we will danger is whether you will need to include outlook because once a carrier, as i went straight are i one is going to respond to nuclear weapons. that is. ready that show us well as i from that threat of nuclear war, which never really mentioned in the nature nation media, what about the european continent? do you see that is in a kind of terminal decline and the sanctions policy is it's arguably sanctioned. it's off and the weapon is ation. we can only go over against russia and china appear to fail. what is going to happen to western europe?

european leaders cannot break out of the foundation to washington. they're going, they're going to decline that they're currently going through right now. i mean, they, they're all washington failed. all which fish is washington, not europe. like i said, the german industrialists are moving their plans to united states because the gas prices cheaper there. whereas the germany just got the price was natural partners and major source of energy. russia, it's why don't we get any sensible person german person. ready to the district of germany, but right now the problem with the european media are still. ready to watch the moment on the line to get to be when they started back will kasha. thank you. thank you. and that's for the show will be back on monday to assess the depth of economic catastrophe facing nato countries

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the documents could be fake. a senior us lawmakers suggest there might be an american military presence in taiwan. beijing already views washington's involvement with the island, a breach of the one china policy. washington is deliberately provoking beijing, just like it did with moscow. that's the so in steel podcast, host, who's a guess on the latest episode of going underground. i do believe the u. s. has