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assets, this week's final sanction imposed by the french authorities. once again, provoke the anger of a number of journalists and trade unions. a french professor at the moscow state university believes that europe, traditional systems are being used as a political tool. were you more likely to she's younger? did we see from the decision which was made by the way, by the french court that today within this framework, within the framework of the ukrainian conflict, the judicial system is being used as a political tool. it is impossible not to recall that r t has been under sanctions for several months even years because it did not distribute the so called correct information. the number of restrictions and journalists and the media is growing. you, they don't follow the need a line. the globalist line, we node the restriction of freedom of speech in europe and the closure of artsy, the forced liquidation of our a t takes this process to new level one. we're also talking about the elimination of freedom of speech is without freedom of speech. it's difficult to have freedom of thought because it will become increasingly difficult for people to access
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different points of view. which means that we're coming to political system that controls more and more people's thoughts. so we're slowly entering a system built in the model of a dictatorship or in any case and authoritarian system. and this is very worrying because the slope in this direction ends as a rule very badly. one can go far in this direction, but no authoritarian system of the dictatorial type can live forever. i'm very worried. what will happen in france? where will the system go? to what extent will people be forbidden to think? to what extent will people be forbidden to reflect? this is an encroachment on the human being itself in all its diversity in all its complexity in all its freedom, which is an integral part of the human personality. that's all for now. be sure to check out our t v dot com for all the latest breaking news and updates. we'll see you next time with
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ah, i i'm after that nancy, and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from dubai in the u. e. this week's u. s. u k, u armed warming of syria and human rights and geo denied access to u. k. jail journalist julian assange, that alone the assassination of a russian journalist, blood and that ascii in st. petersburg this week. no. there was just one big story in nato nations, the rest of popular opposition leader, donald trump, who spoke on tuesday of his possible death penalty less prominent was the prospect of nuclear war. as us politicians ignored warnings from begging not to meet
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taiwanese politician, saying when in california for more on nato 2nd front is it fights russia through ukraine is collier, host of the so conceal podcast about chinese history. culture and politics is in bali in that foundational nation of the non line movement. indonesia. gotcha. thank you so much for coming on after all these years. i think many people around the world, the what's your trick round here? your podcast. let's just kick off thou with what you think of this tie when he is lida arriving. i don't know why. why do you think she's even in the u. s. she said she's going to guatemala and billy's, and it was just as she couldn't get a direct flight and had to fly through new york, which is presumably why she met the democrat. taught her house leader in new york there on the akeem jeffries and then on the way back in the reagan memorial library to meet kevin mccarthy. the number 2 in the u. s. power structure. the house
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speaker. yeah, i mean, of course you can get into a flight, right. and the whole whole purpose of so called latin america is really come to us and to publicly challenge side, it is a highly for lot it moves us. those us knows where china's read by china said publicly taiwan can do whatever they want, as long as they don't do not be clear, formal independence. but now us lawmakers are making a statement like tie one is a new country. we should respect island sovereignty, which is going back there, all commitment to one tied to policy that was signed by president nathan back in 1972, we premier july we formed the foundation on the final american relationship ever since. so us walking back on that because they know we're trying to spread like red
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light it. and just like what they do is they keep on pushing russia red line on pushing natal easy words. they are now trying to push china's red light. and i want understand for china with the pilot, just as you craning issue with a motional issue of the rushes for the chinese tie. one issue with the highly emotional recharge issue and the us just no waste button to push and they, they're doing this because there's, there's a thinking among the pentagon that they have a very small limited time window to china. right. ready china is continually to continue to write and you didn't buy spend years. so i will child, chinese economy will grow to scale that united states wouldn't be able to china even if they want to. so the idea is happy campaign, china, they gotta do it. now. get to the economic prospects in a moment, but i mean,
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i know that you've said that that unlike ukraine, the ukraine issue, the p l. a navy would quickly draw in direct us forces. of course in ukraine. the u . s. is, has special forces there clearly and there are some personnel, but mostly which they deny. and there are billions of millions of dollars of equipment coming from britain in the urban union. and that once a u. s. worship was sunk, the biden administration would have to consider as they call them tactical nuclear weapons against china. yes, in fact us. busy i recently did work on china us war i one day they conclusion issue is that without us a fall in 3 months and i saw many st. interviews on high one on the news break out. a lot of the people were surprised. they were surprised
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to learn that out for us out because i thought of it from economy supplying all the semiconductors and chips in our phones. well, it is, but i went to the island on like ukraine crate, share orders we recycle in pie one is the island chinese chinese navy can just play block a around the island and then then what all the ships cannot get out of dialing at that point. us have a choice, either intervene or spit it out and you decide to intervene. right. and what to nuclear arms for hours and we get a lot well i know that there was a drill last time. nancy pelosi then how speak of visited that i one seeming to contravene the u. s. is own one china policy, but how did it come to this?
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in the 1st place, the pentagon says as 313 bases these, this from the pentagon, who knows how many black sites and what else? 313 bases before the 9 new ones in the philippines. that's out of the $750.00 outside the continental united states. why has it taken so long for china to respond as it slowly been encircled over these decades? let alone responding to the economic warfare that's been around for quite a few years now. it's not just a tick tock. suddenly it was while way and others from european union sanctioned by britain for instance. so that's crazy, right? because 1st of all, you actually circling, china is not a nothing in the started $49.00 after the stablish china. and we, the 1st half of the cold war, us place, bases around china that started to change $972.00 when nixon china,
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lately china car up against soviet union. and what have changed the last 13 years, the united states realize certainly china contrary to popular belief, china could actually innovate. they are not actually technologically. busy materially economically and made people in washington that is a law to the us, germany of the world. they challenge and so they have to do something about it for china, for a long time trying to they could still work with the united states. do work with the globalization effort that was led initially by united states because china mostly benefited all globalization, trying to receive large action on western battle, bobbies, all industrial capabilities. but what initiation has shown is ministration may change from trying to buy and buy us policy. ready remain
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the same, which is to be toward china. now i finally went to managing are actually up in the lab. but do you think the communist party can cross france from bordeaux feel extending right now, macro. also understand that whatever they're doing is not working, whatever the nato is currently doing, the worries not a lot while for them. for a lation economy banking, they have to do something. so there's over. there will just have to see what kind of like you say, what can bring concretely to the well, it was a surprise that china broken it, but apparently saudi iran negotiations. trump, of course assassinated. so they money was rumored to have carried a letter, you know, the propaganda,
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hearts and minds impact of the national endowment of democracy and even in jews like amnesty international. what we will go watch our interview with the curious we are representative on the rumble channel on going underground. why is it, do you think all of that didn't persuade the global south? china is evil. i know that in the past few days, the so called us intelligence anonymous source, is a briefing the media than the chinese consulate in los angeles is paying $400.00. a demonstrated to demonstrate, again, can chat sigh of taiwan. and les a, she's the actual all the way and so they have to come up with the. ready story, but as for a sound i made people in the south i see to the western day because certainly offer survey shows. china has surprisingly very positive image.
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ready as opposed to a so called international community, which is really the u. s. and it's a cetera. we're talking about human rights and michelle bachelor. i mean, she has a history of being tortured by the i a back regimes in chile. and she said serious human rights violations in jan jang. so is it people getting bored or tired of the united nations itself? as a neutral arbiter? i know that you and 60 general, so quick to condemn russia for what russia saw as a defense of the people from cultural cleansing in bass, in east, in ukraine. yeah, i think people can see the western propaganda just recently. there was a nice journalist edwards, she challenged a you and you spoke person for us on the question of why use us.
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ready illegally optimized area. and you, i suppose person flatly that does not believe that it's not free. syria and the chinese journalist brought out the new status by us servicemen in syria, us, not the notary to be injured in syria. so this is, this is so obvious. now to many people who were not, maybe not constantly bombarded by the western ways, people in the western subject. i mean, this is why you all the muslim countries, none of the site with the us crusade on the so called young issue in china. because as the bright bright, and you have to instill we have for you on the west or decry why the muslim country care about john will me because of the news kasha. i'll
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ah, i welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with phil conceals collier the nation. meet you a quick to pounds that gigi and being before arriving in moscow, said the territorial integrity must be respected and pounced on that with regard to china as peace plan in ukraine. what does china mean that territorial integrity must be respected as regards any peace settlement in new grained? as china seriously think the people of crimea should not give the government they want? that is a very interesting question. but if you look at the chinese position, you have always respecting your. busy busy integrity and sovereignty
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because china has been. busy more suited for last, china has pie one is part of china and we choose agree to my made by most of the countries stablish, diplomatic relationship, retirement. so for china sovereignty and integrity is very important. i to say find china respect russian position in regarding ukraine and this is why was she met with me? are they? they said they they're, they're okay with the chinese proposal. they, they very much want insurance. tauriel integrity, man in china. territory, when it comes to europe, to europe. okay. good question. what i, what china out want is to do business or right because war is bad for business
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unless you're, you know, lockheed martin or china alternately want to c p euro and maybe you know, then then they can roll out and ro initiative. you even need to grade point your grades, vegas trade partner was china. so maybe that was a thought in the pentagon in the state department that the british intelligent services old china will want to keep the largest country and western europe, whose biggest trade partner is china on side and will somehow be decoupled for moscow. yeah, i me, this is, this is crazy. china understand what's going on. there's the china understand the game play. china do not want to see russia, ukraine, or from russia. all china would be the next target. and this isn't very clearly understood, not only by the chinese leader,
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but everyone knows us out and get china and us is asking china, oh, why don't we, why don't you? thank you, russia. this is quite, i mean, how would china respond? you are, you are right now laughing authorization again, i'm expecting you. thanks. here is russia. this is ridiculous. this is why she is not returning. phone call is speaking to me from bonnie because quite apart any pressure on china, which obviously probably doesn't work because of chinese power. take talk chinese by balloons and firing missiles at them. the terrible legacy may be a 1000000 killed at the behest of washington in the, in the navy. how far can global south leaders like we don't go in indonesia? how can they support breaks in the jaguar ration organization because he's been saying d, dollarization decoupling changing in the economy. he must remember that easy and
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history and what happens to global leaders who talk about a multi polar world by right now. but he's talking about the dollar radiation, brazil, just sign a p green trying to trade in ron and friends, friends concluded allan g deal with china to be concluded, chinese r and b. so this is not just the global out. now, my problem over to be g and you have, you had us congressman marco rubio again said, you know, we don't have much time because the world is going to down the path of the dollarization. so bad a 5 years i won't be able to, thanks to a country because our, i mean, you just basically admission what is going to happen if they, regardless lead us government. ready in fact,
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u. s. government actually right now is pushing dollar i nation to accelerate because everyone see if they stay on dollars they sanction next. ringback asia sanctioned next militia would be. thank you. next. that's why malaysian prime minister just recently made a see, he says that malaysia should not pied is involved in only 2 to the dollar, only they to the or the best asian dollars. you know, you're talking about exploring alternatives and money. my lazy one can expect argument my mom and famously refusing the m f advice as regards privatization and new liberalism in response to previous recessions. but what about the important ones in the region? japan, south korea, the philippines. i mean is, is beijing just going to watch these 9 new bases appear in the philippines that can attack mainland china? well, they, they both have been us client. they allow us to have large presence in both
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countries. joking is interesting because long inside of us here are influenced, but ever since, what do our day have been trying to explore alternatives. we china with russia and even today we've been new president. he's trying to get on the boat for us to get some military aid from china. acknowledge investment, right, right. because right now doesn't offer anything other than a weapon. you to china is the one that told me to do the denominator to which of course need to a nation media se. oh, and we got john perkins on the conventions are really going to hit man, he's turned against china and said chinese replacing the washington consensus institutions of bretton woods. they're just going to be the same. they're leaving indebtedness in the global south. well,
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what do you offer or heard before? we only have global foundation can only change lie in the world bank and we all know that credit to the nature of the world bank. now they can go say, hey, i can, maybe i can get a better deal with china. i don't have to stick with you. you world bank. unless you give me a better term, you know, competition is always good. and at the same time, you know, my china is not wholly and gone to any african leaders to force them to, to sign to sign on the initiative. african, you have to respect african countries for their own asian. this is the women that african leaders are willingly insure to remain was trying to have some class. so it's not, it's kind of, i think it's kind of ready to suggest that african don't know their own back there
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. but what is the reaction going to be from the united states? i mean, you believe her, she is allegation that the, nor the stream is blown up and destroyed in the west eco terror attack by the, by an administration with the ca, presuming you do, do believe that, well, surely that can cause havoc to chinese investments right around the world if it's capable of doing that because they denied completely, can china and withstand, i mean, usually it just puts a drill on and does a bit of talking. it's not supplying lethal a to russia even for ukraine. arguably, saudi arabia, which doesn't take the phone calls in the us, where i'm speaking to you from doesn't take phone calls from biden, they just, well, in the past week went for it regarding oil prices. what is china actually doing to defend itself? oh, wow. i know so i know just authorize the
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military budget by the percent, and the chinese navy has been expanding at their wrapping labels alarm because they know if it's chinese surely mobilized, they can produce military hardware and faster, ready to watch something for the right now. busy all the worlds industries in china, china is a country space. us, you want to have a conditional where we, china, a china can, can, can produce, produce tons of joyous and this so, and, and destroyers and right now the trying to maybe have world one, the world's most at best mister destroyer type, $55.00 us the us plan destroyer, yet people are looking at the design and people wonder if us just trying to copy
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the chinese design except the us us, the latest us destroyer won't be, won't be written, the budget won't be approved until 2030 so. so right now i don't think us when a conventional war against but we'll danger it is whether it will need to include outlook because once a carrier, as i went straight are i, one is going to respond to use nuclear weapons that. ready is mature in dollar us well, aside from that threat of nuclear war, which never really mentioned in nature, nation media. what about the european continent? do you see that is in a kind of terminal decline and the sanctions policy is it's arguably sanctions. it's off and the weapon zation, we can only go over against russia and china appear to fail. what is gonna happen to western europe?
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european leaders cannot break out to washington. they're going, they're going down the path to decline that they're currently going through right now. i mean, they, they're all washington is fail. oh, which is washington, not europe. you know? like i said, the german industrialists are moving their plans to united states because the gas prices cheaper there. whereas the germany just got the price was the natural trade partners and major source of energy rush. it's why do we get any, any sensible person? german person will see this in to the district of germany. but right now, the problem with the european meter are still open to washington and the moment on the line to get to be when you started back will kasha. thank you. thank you. and that's for the show will be back on monday to assess the depth of economic catastrophe facing nato countries threatening china
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with author and chief economist, professor dan like i a but until then, keep in touch my role as social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to watch and going underground tv on normal dot com to watch new and old episodes of going undergrad. so you monday. ah, to what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on offensive, bearing dramatic development only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time. time to sit down and talk ah
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