tv Cross Talk RT April 9, 2023 11:00pm-11:28pm EDT
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ah ah ah, ah ah, ah, hello and welcome the crosstalk were all things are considered? are peter level western elite, or in the cute state of anxiety in america, there is a state sanction effort to destroy trump in his followers. europe faces mass protests and economic dislocation when it comes to foreign policy. western germany hinges on the fate of ukraine. overall, b, outlook is bleak. ah . discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess martin j and mary
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cash. he's an award winning journalist and commentator, and in budapest we cross to george samuel he, he is a podcast to read the gobble, which can be found on youtube and locals. are a gentleman cross our girls in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it, and i start out with georgia in budapest. my introduction was a bit grim, but i think it's a good reflection of what's going on right now. really wanting to distill by the end of this program is how domestic politics and ideology in the west is infected and bled into quite literally into foreign policy. where we have this post. modernist agenda is, is dividing countries at home and threatening world peace abroad. it's all interconnected, you can't separate the 2 charged. i agree with you, peter. oh, we have the throughout the west of a political elites that do nothing go out of the way to do nothing to
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enhance the interest of their own publics that they boast about it, as we've seen with her on the line of their book and the others and we are where on this inexorable a cycle of this war are in ukraine, that enjoys no public support either in europe or in the united states, but it is absolutely fully committed to on the part of the global elite. now, oh, in the united states as an additional twist to it, which is the, are clear up front runner on the republic of side is donald trump, who is the one political figure anywhere in the west who escal the ukraine war and to question his son. the tax, the elite that delivered this war, he is called for an immediate cease fire and has said exactly what needs to be said that this war serves no other interest. other than this, a wall making our global is the lead, whoever's been destroying our economy, sir,
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for years now of this is, there is a powerful conspiracy of foot in the united states to stop him. and we don't know whether that will succeed or not. but it is ivy. instructive that there is such a conspiracy to a whole to the presidential run of the one man who is calling this more into question. it's, it's really interesting martin, is it, you know, we hear this mantra, i've heard it over the last few years in great with great intensity about we need an inclusive society. we need equity and all this. but equity in inclusion, dis, inherently divides very, very seriously. publics across the western world level. so has no interest in this agenda. i think they described, they had to go there and move the westerners again, doing their crazy things. there's nothing to do is george pointed up with the interest of their own people learn. yeah. in the global cell,
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so the rest of the world is we should put it, you know, there is a distinct lack of interest and an emphasis towards the rest of very beginning and cynicism as well grades of cynicism. but now what we're finding is more than one year on the polls that i'm reading now are indicating the in america something like about 50 percent of people polled don't believe in the ukraine, wouldn't believe that there was a genuine sincere inertia from, from biden to actually achieve wherever sitting out to achieve that is to just don't believe in it their last all confidence in that you know, and i think as, as your point though, you know, the, some factor is incredibly important. why is biden's so obsessed with ukraine? who will find out one day, one day, one of the things is that there's a trump has to be stopped, because trump represents common sense trumped, represents ending the war and turning over a new page. and they'll be a huge amount of probing going on after that process star. some will actually get
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to the bottom of the links abided by the family and the ukraine will. you know, this is interesting. that's what we're seeing in america right now. it reminds me very much the j simpson trial. i think we're going to get to a point where, you know, with biden's in the office blends president, but he has no chance, no hope. what so ever a winning a media scrap online with trump. and i think he knows this, you know, i think it's already started now the, the clips have started. so briefly left out a button over the fiasco of the canister withdrawal. you know, i think there be a lot of this, but you know, the plan is so political. i mean it's just so incredible school. i've got democrat friends in america who just shrugged shoulders in small when i put them. but you know, this is really a political stitcher, but i think we're heading towards a massive failure of buying. and i just can't see how he gets to the end line in
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this with this talk to the board, he failed the more trends and people like that are going to be blame george. i mean, that's why this is foreign policy and ivy ology issues complete very, very closely. ok. so if you, if you're against a biden's war, pro russia, but that's the best there. you know, it's very simple minded, simple binary, everything. the more we move forward, everything becomes a binary. if you're not with this, you're a guess. if i thought we got over that, that's a sophomore at thinking with the iraq war. but we happened george. yeah, no, i think that's right. and, you know, when you examine the sorry, trajectory of biden's recent career, we're not even going to go back to his belligerent that he was a neo con in the 1900 ages. but he was an odd and bomer of yugoslavia in the ninety's, but just a recent times he was an enthusiast. excel was there of the
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russia gates thesis, that trump was an agent of pollutants all the way up to 202017. he was along with obama suggesting that somehow that the u. s. government, the us intelligence agencies do not cooperate with the incoming trump administration because it's infiltrated by the kremlin, no evidence whatsoever. and the but he was the purveyor of this. he said that ok, maybe we can get to michael flynn on logan i violation. and then in the 2020 election when he was, he was turning the world. oh, there was a plump is when approaching and trump with the balances, the some russia italian. i know, you know, the bounty is on the heads of the america, so just this is who biden is. this is the worst possible person to be
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president. and now we have the consequences as well. when you said the other day that we will stop trump from being president where he was bloating it out. it was a bloating. what did, what did he say? we'll stop the north stream. fighting the tone was exactly the same. the words were exactly the same, and he was essentially a blessing of clearly true that there was a plot within the biden administration to stop him. come what may. and we already know that there's been cooperation with the abiding justice department and alvin brag in new york. you know, now there's a story in the new york times in georgia that building some kind of a rico conspiracy case against trump. no doubt the biden administration is involved in that. so this is the total talk with him within the government to stop him on the democratic, oppose. well bear you just took the words out of my mouth martin. let me go to
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elections play in this. apparently they don't play a role at all. okay? because if you're not going to allow your, your competitors to participate, you're not allow debate, you're not allowing descent that democracy is worthless and community. it's actually an empty ritual market. it's an empty ratio, and i completely agree, it's totally worthless, but it will come down to just this one parallel of this engagement between trump and biden on social media and trump will dominate this. and i think this is really where we're heading now. we're heading towards the election, which is completely unprecedented on so many levels, but it will all be about trumps ability. incredible ability to add to dominate the media, gender interest, stop journalists, writing about the hum drum minutia of every day. boring, political stories about health, health care and environment, and economy, and just focus on the idiomatic tweets the puts out every 30 minutes. then what is
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going to come down to this is what the election is going to be really do. think the biden has played a bad movie. i really do think it's going to blow up in his face because, you know, even if he manage just to get trump in jail, a think reaction from american people from a lot of swing voters. i mean, what swing voters we have in america, say 20 percent. say something like the people who, who don't actually stick to one particular policy, those swing voters are going to vote again for the republican side is approaches for it because the danger is i see your line, you're thinking, but the danger is they might plan b. i don't know how that works in other countries. they can just simply by seizing russia as president. there wasn't even done to, to hitler again, who's going to hold his assets in the, in dollars the euro's anymore, because they know that they're going to seize them anytime the americans see like
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it, you know, barton over the last new cycle or so to, under secretary of the treasury visited europe, threatening sanctions against their closest allies are not keeping the sanctions against russia. i mean, this is what they do to their friends, not their 20 seconds before we go to the break. yeah. that was, it was the missed and coming into power. supposedly trump had terrible relations with nature. european countries, the burden was going to come in and repair the fix, the problem. but blood and button is just as nationalistic and protection to stick a trumpet not more so. so i think there's a room crisis limit there between i mean that the germany guys were going to go to a short break. and after that, you're broke in in your discussion on some real estate authority. ah ah,
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ah, welcome at the crossed out here. all things are considered on feudal well, this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. i wanna go back to george in budapest, i want to go back to the, the ideological origins of this melees that the, the elite are experiencing. there's no reverse gear with these people. it's very total listing. and what we've gotten down to, it's not really even solid, takes in a way, it's more of a culture of a, it's a purity test. everyone has to pass a purity test, which means if, if you're not purer, then there's something wrong with you. you're defective. maybe even evil and impurities need to be on, extinguish them and demolished here. that's a very, very dangerous approach to a social policy, to politics,
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to security church. i agree, it's a, it's a very divisive policy. it's about, it's a matter of somehow, you know, we, you know, the lease we are blessed by and an ideological purity of the sort of the sense that we are on the right side of history. you know, the end of history culminated in us and everybody else is on the other side where the domestic, lower international they. but it's also very curious phenomenon of the kind of western. so grandma say that, you know, we, we have a right to rule world one at the same time, despising everything that was vital and strong and a funny about western civilization. so they despise, obviously christianity they despise even. you know, much of this, all of the, of the thought that is our permeates a western la zation. and that pretty much despite every leader
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and every one who won led to regard it as a hero of western civilization. so it becomes a completely empty, vacuous, kind of political correctness woken us, whatever you call, that is now the representative of western civilization. well, you, if you have nothing to offer the world, he can't go on expressing this'll do western geminus on because it just nothing. i renewed and people got a ton against it. i mean, there was a time in the, the great air of a western imperialism when people kind of admire that may not have like the western imperialist. but they did admire what the west of the chief, you know, science industry, technology, military prowess, old athens area, and prosperity for the people. and we need imitate that. we need to get to be like them in order to compete with who, who admires and all the so that the western civilization of today,
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the ana lena bear boker style of civilization. you know, in a martin, the thing is with this ideology, it's, it's, it, it, it projects a, i think, a fake morality a quasi morality because there's nothing a, there's no foundation to it at it, but it doesn't really even pretend to want to solve problems. it's, it's, if you think a right way and ask the right way, then miraculously, things will somehow get better. i'm befuddled by these people because they're not really needed policy driven in the sense that they're, it's problem solving. go ahead where we're living in a, an error of missouri governance. now when we talk about was, let's um, you know, the latest are lead underscore parties don't govern anymore. they just sort of tend to let everything for him to place and to carry on pumping out see, to fulls narratives. and as george pointed out, there is this kind of a blended dogma, well, from western most,
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especially in america. but also we've seen a little bit in europe where, you know, institutions represent and we just take the podium, top, absolute nonsense. i mean, really, the most appalling lies which they've been trying to cultivate through a server. press pack which you know has become worse and worse, the last 10 or 15 years. our journalist now just don't ask difficult questions anymore. they don't prove they don't write any abrasive for a big narrative because they just write up what they're really been told to write. and you know, you every now and again to get a glimpse of this and sometimes are full of much laughing. i'm looking at my twitter timeline every day just last week. for example, showing these journalists asked us spokesmodel american troops and serial. and he's reply amazingly. well, we're all know american troops and syria the chinese journalist. but american contractors were injured in. think think about that for
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a while. pizza. think about that for him to say that, you know, he has to have the confidence of enough journalists in the restroom. i'm going to follow up and repeat that narrative, that there are no american journalists, american soldiers in syria, you know, so we've gone, we've gone past this line now of decency, you know, now media is complicit in all these lies. and you said rightly that there seems to be less towards so many of these policies. you know, we are blinded, burnt up, and we don't know what we're doing. and ukraine, we don't know what we're doing and around with their own economies. you know, when you look at the clean war now, so many experts of predicting a kind of tipping point somewhere around the end of summer. because the admonition on the side is dwindling to such a point where it's getting quite desperate. and it's quite clear that western countries and america as well just can't keep up with production of this killer button department. and it's just
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a few days ago notes point $2000000000.00 of new kit. and when we arrive, it took about 2 or 3 months. you know, and i think the pendulum now as swung away from the, from they say false is tools. ukraine. i think, you know, now that a certain count down, but going back to the original point, you know, how do people let binds, actually talk to people to people in the street when they, all those questions at general should ask which and the, the biggest one on the list for me is, how are we doing a new grade? we, when it was doing anything, you know, we can, ukraine is going to win because it's on the right side of history and it has the right. i'm sorry, stuff is depiction of reality on the ground with age. they seem to believe this if you know george, you i pod cast the guy go, we've talked a lot about this. but i think the reason for this anxiety is the complete mediocrity of western league speak. because you can take the prime minister of been late and replace it with the prime minister of belgium and you get the same result
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. okay? they're all the same. ok. they all, they, they, they all repeat the same dribble, okay? that's why they're in the in power. okay? because you meet the medias. rallies around these figures and put both of them into power. ok. and then you have show rows, foundations and r, n g o z. and it's a racket. that's why we have such mediocre people georgia. the question is, they are interchangeable. so we have the election in italy last september. well, maybe there's a change with this. georgia malone who was said, you know, immediately before the electro mussolini is coming back. this is most lenient ideals. then given the 1st thing she says as soon as she's elect the very way i'm 100 percent behind the landscape and she me that telephone to landscape. same thing happen in spin on the other day. the thing check, you know, otherwise known as son amarion,
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finish by minister. she's defeated in the election. the man will replace a survey at 1st thing. he says we are 100 percent the i'm finland. i'll be behind ukraine. they're fighting for us. i think because george, they don't want to be urban environment. yeah. no question. i mean, but they know who that they must as i know you do your stand, i doubt where the santa marion will be coming back to be prime minister. she's going to go on to bigger things in the it's just the stepping stone for a big some international career. and people with not is that was so very interesting about how journalists now are just simply, oh, spokesman for the leave, the people in power and all of their hostility is directed toward ordinary people. the way they are treat ordinary people is, is with rage and feel re because they ask open questions, mailed somebody, you know, from the street with the say hey, why exactly? oh, away in ukraine. i mean, what, what's ukraine done for us?
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what, what was the thing to pinnacle? because they don't have an answer to that, because the politicians are used to answering any of the ridiculous questions like, i'm in would, can we trust putin to stick to his word? and when and when, when can we be sure that putin has been defeated and removed from power? they ask questions that politicians love to just swanton away, but older people them, i'm thinking like that. hence, we need to be treated with us on content. you know, that just foam in on the street. oh, yeah. but i, i saw it very interesting interview a few weeks ago. oh, of this whole trans activism and all that. and it was this of female swimmer that is in the news right now. and she said on tucker carlson, she said, what is the difference between these transgender activists in blackface genes, an ordinary person at night such a great question, what is the difference part of, you know, i think they're probably the same, but no, you,
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that's for both. you can talk like that, okay, cuz it's not part of the official narrative, but the same thing is what's are interested in you, right? well, can you explain to me again, why we're supplying so much weaponry and money to this government? and why are we still in syria? all these questions are very valid in there. there man and women on the street questions just as george is pointed out, more. yeah. you know why we in syria, you just said well, and it's one of the questions that journalists will never race when they have these moments. so and study will be addressed by spokes persons of these institutions is that lyrica is stealing $100000.00 barrels of oil a day from northern serial. and they that particular strip of syria, perhaps the american administration doesn't call syria anymore, puts us, you know, but we are living in a truth rather than the real truth. think about how can on the 1st place we're quite good at this information going back several hundreds of years. but you know, it's, it's interesting. it's still going on. there's still
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a lot of fake news out. the people are from, you know, really a stress to the entire machinery. it could bring the whole thing they be talking about. we're going to be forced to talk about this for the next 18 months or so. but i remember everyone, most of the this, this information you hear that you read comes from the government. that's where it comes from. not from, from conspiracy groups with government. and we have to react with gentlemen. that's all the time we have one of the think my guess in budapest and medication when i think our viewers for watching us here are tc next time. remember the rules ah no. when i would show the wrong, why don't just don't the rules? yes, to fill out the thing because the after an engagement equals the trail went
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germany, thousands of demonstrators demand to stop supplying weapons to ukraine. sanctions against russia have drastically reduced living standards for austrians, and they've taken to the streets of vienna check citizens or demanding the government resign that the country withdraw from nato and the european union. and begin to go shave some cheap russian gas. and this is a protest by italian bankers, a british being forced to give up the most basic things. jude and he, russian sanctions, europe. isn't it free? plunging into darkness. it's freezing. ah, but what does the us have to do with it?
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ah, i will ensure that joe biden does not receive 4 more years in order to make america great and glorious. again. i am tonight announcing my candidacy for president bush. on november, the 15th 2022. donald trump announced he would run for the american presidency in 2024. we must conduct a top to bottom overhaul to clean out the festering rod and corruption of washington dc. but why is donald trump convinced the u. s. one survive another joe biden presidency? i was deep for his trump once again talking about with
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