tv Cross Talk RT April 10, 2023 2:30am-2:59am EDT
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destroy trump in his followers, europe, faces mass protests and economic dislocation. when it comes to foreign policy, western gemini, hinges on the fate of ukraine. overall, b, outlook is bleak. ah. discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess martin j and mary cash. he's an award winning journalist and commentator, and in budapest we cross to george semi while he is a podcast to write the gobble which can be found on youtube and locals, or a gentleman cross that grows in effect. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. i start out with georgia in budapest. my introduction was a bit rim, but i think it's a good reflection of what's going on right now. really want i want to distill by the end of this program is how domestic politics and ideology in the west is infected and bled into quite literally into foreign policy where we have this post . modernist agenda is,
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is dividing countries at home and threatening world peace abroad. it's all interconnected, you can't separate the 2 charged. i agree with you pizza. we have it throughout the west of political leads that do nothing go out of the way to do nothing to enhance the interest of their own publics. they boast about it, as we've seen with ally in the book and the others. and we're, we're on the inexorable cycle of this war in ukraine that enjoys no public support either in europe or in the united states. but it is absolutely fully committed to on the part of the global leads. now, in the united states, there's an additional twist to it, which is the clear front runner on the republican side is
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donald trump, who is the one political figure anywhere in the west who has called the ukraine war into question. he's attacked the elite that delivered this war is called for an immediate cease fire, and as says exactly what needs to be said, that this war serves no other interest. other than this a wall making global is the lead. who are the destroying our economists for years now? this is, there is a powerful conspiracy afoot in the united states to stop him. and we don't know whether that will succeed or not. but it is, i be instructive that there is such a conspiracy to hold to the presidential run of the one man who is calling this more into question. it's really interesting martin, is that, you know, we hear this mantra. we've heard it over the last few years in great with great intensity about we need an inclusive society. we need equity and all this. but
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equity in inclusion just inherently divides very, very seriously. publics across the western world. local cell has no interest. solicit cheddar. i think they described, they had to go there. and those of westerners, again, doing their crazy things. there's nothing to do is george pointed up with the interest of their own people learn. yeah. in the global cell. so the rest of the wounds we should put it, you know, there is a distinct lack of interest and an emphasis towards what has been wrote some very beginning and cynicism as well grades of cynicism. but now what we're finding is more than one year on the post that i'm reading now are indicating the in america something like about 50 percent of people polled don't believe in the ukraine, wouldn't believe that there was a genuine sincere inertia from, from biden to actually achieve wherever sitting out to achieve. just don't believe in their, their little confidence in that you know, and i think as,
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as your point though, you know, the trump factor is incredibly important. you know, why is biden's so obsessed with ukraine war in a we'll find out one day. one of the things is that there's a trauma has to be stopped because trump represents common sense trumped, represents ending the war and turning over a new page. and they'll be a huge amount of probing going on after that process star. some will actually get to the bottom of the links abided by the family and the ukraine. well, there's an interesting guy, that's what we're seeing in america right now. it reminds me very much the j simpson trial. i think we're going to get to a point where, you know, with biden's in the office blends president, but he has no chance, no hope. what so ever, winning a media scrap online with trump. and i think he knows this, you know, i think it's already started now the, the clips have started recently left out
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a button over the fiasco of the canister withdrawal. you know, i think there be a lot of this, but you know, the plan is so political. i mean it's just so incredible. i've got democrat friends in america who just shrugged shoulders in small and when i put it up, but you know, this is really a political stitch up, but i think we're heading towards a massive failure of boyd and i just can't see how he gets to the end line in this with this time you fail the more trust in people like something going to be blamed . george, i mean, that's why this is foreign policy and ivy ology issues complete very, very closely. ok. so if you, if you're against biden's war pro, russia, but that's the best there. you know, it's very simple minded, simple binary, everything the more we move forward, everything becomes a binary. if you're not with this, you are a get. so i thought we got over that, that sophomore at thinking with the iraq war, but we haven't, george?
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yeah, no, i think that's right. and you know, when you examine the sorry, trajectory of biden's recent korea, we're not even going to go back to or he's belligerent. that he was a neo con in the 1900 ages, but he was an odd and bomber of yugoslavia in the ninety's. but just a recent times, he was an enthusiastic cellist to bear over the russia gates pieces that trump was an agent of pollutants. all the way up to 202017. he was along with obama suggesting that somehow that the u. s. government, the us intelligence agencies do not cooperate with the incoming trump administration because it's infiltrated by the kremlin. however, this was also over an easy but he was the purveyor of this week. he said that ok, maybe we can get to michael flynn on logan violation. and then in the 2020 election
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when he was, he was telling the world, oh, there was a plump is when put in and trump with the balance in the summer, russia it's all about no, you know, the bounces on the heads of the america. so just this is who biden is, this is the worst possible person to be president. and now we have the consequence of is when, when you said the other day that we will stop trump from being president where he was blowing it out. he was a blessing. what did, what did he say? we'll stop the nord stream. the tone was exactly the same. the words were exactly the same and he was essentially a blessing. clearly true that there was a plot within the biden administration to stop him. come what may we already know that there has been co operation with the abiding justice department and alvin brag in new york. now is the story in the new york times in georgia. i building some
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kind of a rico conspiracy case against trump. no doubt the biden administration is involved enough, so this is a total talk with them within the government to stop them from the democratic. well, bear you just took the words out of my mouth. martin, let me do election. explain this. apparently they don't play a role at all. okay, because if you're not going to allow your, your competitors to participate, you're not allowed debate. you're not allowing descent in democracy is worthless and community. it's actually an empty ritual markets. it's an empty ratio, and i completely agree, it's totally worthless, but it will come down to just this one parallel of this engagement between trump and biden on social media and trump will dominate this. and i think this is really where we're heading now. we're heading towards election, which is completely unprecedented on so many levels,
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but it will all be about trumps ability. incredible ability to add to dominate the media, gender interest, stop journalists, writing about the hum drum minutia of every day. boring, political stories about health, health care and environment, and economy, and just focus on the idiomatic tweets the puts out every 30 minutes. then what is going to come down to this is what the election is going to be a really do think the biden has played a bad movie. i really do thing is going to blow up in his face because, you know, even if we manage just to get trauma in jail, i think the reaction from american people from a lot of swing. but to me, what swing voters we have in america, say 20 percent, say something like the people who, who don't actually stick one particular policy, those swing voters are going to vote again for the republican side as approaches for it. because what the danger is. i see your line of thinking, but the danger is they might not boat at all. that is also
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a possibility. yeah. and that could be something historical if you have a massive boycott, you know. but traditionally, in western government and western politics, when you have a huge demographic of people who refuse to read, you have something what's called a hung parliament, and then people have to work out coalitions and plan b. i don't know how that works in america. don't know how that was designed not to allow that happen in, in design. not to happen that way. you're like, me go to church before we go to the break. george. i mean, in lisa leads. they are so anxious because of the economic downturn. a great deal of the because of the sanction war against russia and sanctions against countries all of the time. and we, we see the dollar dominance being challenge because of sanctions watching cable news. well we've, there is no domination of the dollar that we will be able to apply sanctions and they think that's a bad thing. they don't seem to understand, it's
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a people are leaving the dollar because sanctions are inherently bad for the us dollar. george. exactly. i mean, i talk about it own go, let me, you had the united states using the dollar as a reserve currency as a method of sanctions. so in other words, that countries are unable to trade with what they have because of the american control of the dollar walk our country's going to react, well, we're going to conduct now international trade with using national currency is, are you on or something else, but not the dollar when the where the united states can just simply out prevent us from doing business. and then of course, by seizing ah rushes of central bank assets, something unprecedented wasn't even dumped up to hitler. o, again, who's going to hold his assets in the, in dollars or euros anymore, because they know that they're going to seize them any time the, the americans v like it?
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emma martin l over the last new cycle or so to under secretaries of, of i treasury are visited europe. well, they're threatening sanctions against their low says that ballast for not keeping the sanctions against russia. i mean, this is what they do to their friends, not their foes. 20 seconds before we go to the break. yeah. and that was always the myth of boyd and coming in to power them supposedly trauma entries that biden's going to come in and repair that and fix that problem. but who fund button button is just as nationalistic and protection to stick as trump, if not more. so, so thing as a rule, crisis looming there between, i mean there was a here that the germany guys were going to go to a short break enough to latch operate. we'll continue our discussion on some real estate, the murphy, ah ah
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ah, ah, in 1834 france invaded algeria, and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the colonists, known as p a. no, ours took the best land from day one, the local population was put into an unequal position and was brutally exploited. this gauze, mazda is content. the people of algeria began their long term fight for independence . in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress the rebellion using cruel measures. all villages were wiped out acts of georgia and executions of civil people, including pregnant women,
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children and old people took place more than 2000000 people were put into concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help the algerian patriots managed to induce france the start fees, negotiation. in 1962, evian records were signed, voting algeria in the past towards independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the deaths of one and a half 1000000 algerians. ah
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ah. well, the magic crossed out were all things considered on peter bell? this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. i wanna go back to george in budapest. i want to go back to the, the ideological origins of this melees that the, the elite are experiencing. there's no reverse gear with these people. it's very total, it's thick in what we've gotten down to. it's not really even solid. takes in a way. it's more of a culture of it's a purity test. everyone has to pass
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a purity test, which means if you're not purer, then there's something wrong with you. your, your defective, maybe even evil and impurities need to be on, extinguished and demolished here. that's a very, very dangerous approach to social policy, to politics, to security church. i agree, it's a, it's a very divisive policy. it's about, it's a matter of somehow, you know, we, you know, the least we are. bless bye and an ideological purity of this sort of the sense that we are on the right side of history. you know, the end of history culminated in us and everybody else is on the other side where the domestic, lower international they. but it's also very curious phenomena. we're kind of western. so grandma say that, you know, we, we have a right to rule world one at the same time, despising everything that was vital and strong and
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a funny about western civilization. so they despise, obviously christianity they despise even. you know, much of this, all of the, all the thought that is our permeates in a western civilization. and i pretty much despise every leader. and every one who whip one led to regard that as a hero of western civilization. so it becomes a completely empty, vacuous kind of political correctness woken us, whatever you call, that is now the representative of western civilization. well, if you have nothing to offer the world, he can't go on expressing this'll do western geminus on because it just nothing. i mean, you and people are going to turn against it. i mean, there was a time in the, the great arrow in western imperialism when people kind of admire that may not have like the western imperialist. but they did admire what the west of achieve in the
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science industry, technology, military prowess, all that. and so, and for the people. and we need imitate that, we need to get to be like them in order to compete with who admires and all the so that with the western civilization of today, the on a lena bear boca style of civilization, you know, in a martin the thing is with this ideology, it's, it's, it, it, it projects a, i think, a fake morality a quasi morality because there's nothing there. there's no foundation to it. and, but it doesn't really even pretend to want to solve problems is if you think a right way and ask the right way, then miraculously, things will somehow get better. i'm befuddled by these people because they're not really policy driven in the sense that they're, it's problem solving. go here where we're living in a, an error of missouri governance. now when we talk about was, let's um, you know,
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the leaders don't lead, underscore parties don't governance. they just sort of tend to let everything fall into place and to carry on pumping out see of the fulls narratives. and as george pointed out, you know, there is this kind of a blended dogma. well, from western government, especially in america, but also we seen a little bit in europe where, you know, institut, representing the choosing, which we just take the podium talk. absolute nonsense. i mean, really, the most appalling lives which they've been trying to cultivate through a very server press fact which you know, has become worse and worse, the last 10 or 15 years. now, journalist now just don't ask difficult questions anymore. they don't prove they don't write any abrasive for a subject now and feel like they just write up what they're really been told to write and you know, you every now and again and again, this and sometimes are full of much laughing. i'm looking at my twitter timeline every day just last week. for example, showing these journalists asked
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a un spokesman about american troops and serial. and his reply amazingly. well, we're all know american troops and syria the chinese berlin ball. but american contractors were injured in think about that for a while. pizza. think about that for him to say that, you know, he has to have the confidence of enough journalists in that restroom. i'm going to follow up and repeat that narrative, that there are no american journalists, american soldiers in syria, you know, so we've gone, we've gone past this line now of decent, say, you know, now media is complicit in all these lies. and you said rightly that they seem to be less towards so many of these policies. you know, we are blinded, burnt, or we don't know what we're doing. and ukraine, we don't know what we're doing and around with their own economies. when you look at the train war now, so many experts are predicting a kind of tipping quite somewhere around the end of summer. because the admonition
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on the side is dwindling to such a point where it's getting quite desperate. and it's quite clear that western countries and america as well just can't keep up with production of this killer button department, and it's just a few days ago, notes 2200000000 dollars of new kit. one will arrive it talking about 2 the most, you know, and i think the pendulum now has swung away from the, from they say force is towards ukraine. i think, you know, now there's a certain count down. but going back to the original point, you know, how do people let binds? actually talk to people to humble people in the street when they all those questions that german should ask, which and the, the biggest one on the list for me is how are we doing in your grade? we, when it was doing anything, you know, with ukraine is going to win because it's on the right side of history and it has the right. i'm sorry that i just thought that depiction of reality on the ground with age. they seem to believe, you know, george, you know, i pod cast the guy go,
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we've talked a lot about this. but i think the reason for this anxiety is the complete mediocrity of western we speak. you can, you can take the prime minister for been live and replace it with the prime minister of belgium and they will get the same result. ok? they're all the same. ok. they all, they, they, they all repeat the same dribble, okay? that's why they're in the in power. okay, because you meet the media rallies around these figures and box them into power. ok . and then you have show rose foundations and r n g. oh it's, it's a racket. that's why we have such mediocre people charge. the question is, they are interchangeable. so we have the election in italy last september. well maybe there's a change with this. georgia malone who was said, you know immediately before the electra oh, miscellaneous,
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coming back. this is most lenient ideals. then given the 1st thing she says as soon as she's elect the very way i'm 100 percent behind the landscape and she me the telephone to landscape. same thing happen in been on the other day. the thing check you know, otherwise known as sun. i'm are in the finish by minutes. she's defeated in the election. the man replaces it. first thing, he says we are 100 percent the i'm finland of a behind ukraine. they're fighting for us. i think because george, they don't want to be urban environment. yeah. no question. i mean, but they know who they are. they must as i know, you do your stand, i doubt where the santa marion will be coming back to be prime minister. she's going to go on to bigger things in the it's just a stepping stone for a big some international career. and people with not is that was so very interesting about how journalists now are just simply co spokesman for the really the people in power and all of their hostility is directed toward ordinary
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people. the way they are treat ordinary people is, is with rage and feel re because they ask awkward questions. middle somebody you know, from the street with the say hey, why exactly? oh, away in ukraine. i mean what, what you brain down for us? what, what was to think pinnacle they can't, they don't have an answer to that because the politicians are used to answering any of the ridiculous questions like i'm, it would come with trust bruton to stick to his word. and when, when, when can we be sure that bruton has been defeated and removed from power? they ask questions that politicians love to just swath away. but older people don't, i'm thinking like that. and we need to be treated as a was a content you know, that just firm in on the street. oh, yeah. i saw a very interesting interview a few weeks ago. oh, of this whole trans activism and all that. and it was this of female swimmer that
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is in the news right now. and she said on tucker carlson, she said, what is the difference between these transgender activists in blackface genes, an ordinary person at night such a great question, what is the difference? i think they're probably the same, but no you, that's per bowden. you can talk like that. okay, cuz it's not in a cloud curriculum with many of these or is and there is this extra truth rather than the real truth of locus them, is that you start on black issues in the u. k. think about how can i know, how can i know have an opinion about racism or black people in the u. k. you know, you're just eliminated and living, the same thing is going on with the american press with the ukraine. you know, you're not allowed to write about the nazi groups operating there because that doesn't really fit into a narrative. and this, this, this information coming from america is so, oh, it's been around for ever since to see a was invented, you know, and, and that's not for credit. was the bridge to help the americans get off the ground
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. the 1st place were quite good at just information going back several hundreds of years. but, you know, it's, it's interesting, but it's still going on. there's still a lot of fake news out. the people are trump, you know, really a stress to the entire machinery. it could bring the whole thing talking about will be forced to talk about this for the next 18 months or so. but oh, i remember everyone, most of this, this information you hear that you read comes from the government. that's where it comes from. not from from conspiracy groups with government, and we have to react with gentlemen. that's all the time we have one of the think my guess in budapest, any medication i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are tc next time. remember, the rules the the operation, the aerodynamic began shortly after well war 2 and lasted almost 3 decades. it
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wasn't a major effort to try and split the ukraine off from the soviet union, us intelligence together. with hypnos execution, i was trained hundreds of savages to be deployed in the soviet union just focused on the east of bundle. so we'll have started with today. security service of ukraine use is not only the statistic message, but also the ideology of the nationalist. a b, a
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