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tv   Interview  RT  April 13, 2023 5:30pm-6:00pm EDT

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french president mcgraw's visit, the china has the atlantis as world and neo cons of all stripes in an uproar. instead of being a mere cutaway in service of washington, the french president actually stood up for his own country. and europe put his micron above short in a day late ah ah, ah ah ah, ah, a ah
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a for many ukrainians and for many also docs christians. this east to week has been quite a road to calvary. the ukrainian authorities are openly attacking the orthodox church, but in church services shut down orthodox places of worship, and engaging in the kind of persecution the ukraine has not seen for a very long time. why is it happening? where does this lead to make sense of it all? i am joined today by metropolitan lay on need of clean patriarchal exile of africa . jo, grace, thank you very much for joining us. let me start by asking you, how did we even get to this point? why are we regressing back to the times of religion persecution? good afternoon, and thank you for inviting me. the subject you brought up is as poignant as it is tragic. we're having this conversation on holy week. the final week of great lent, it's tuesday and with every passing day, the developments in ukraine produce more and more misery. he pains us as these are our brothers and sisters the other day. i posted a video on my telegram channel,
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showing 2 elderly women, one of them very old and using a walking stick, making their way towards the church, through a crowd of nazis. young people chanting down with mosque vite priests, the frenzy states. these people were in there wasn't just unnatural. it was outright satanic, demonic. yes. the demonic fervor and a vitriolic hate that everything russian, everything, orthodox, to understand the cause of all of this. i believe we have to look deeper into the past or before the developments of these recent years. in my mind, we are dealing with the aftermath of certain ideas that have not been completely stamped out in the 19 forties fifties and 19 sixty's. it is the ukrainian a band to write ideology which managed to survive in a latent form, slowly, poisoning the minds and memories of gen rations in its now sprouting and bearing
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fruit. i do not think that one or 2 or even 3 years would have been enough time to rewrite the minds of young men and women of thousands of people. yes, that's the unfortunate reality. we are saying, priests physically assaulted temples is seized. and as we all know, this persecution is directed against the ukrainian orthodox church. what a tragic period. this is truly. and yet here we are witnessing the acute phase of this tragedy unfold on holy week. we will continue to monitor the situation as it develops. but my wish is that it's stopped, as i say, it's the west is also adding fuel to the fire. all these terrible things are happening with their tacit consent. they are outright ignoring this genocide and i do believe the word is warranted. here. we can trace it all back to the, to thousands, even with the axis phase happening since 2014, when
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a genocide was unleashed against the russian speaking population of ukraine. and now it's got so bad that people a willingly destroying everything that used to bind dot to peoples together. i for one, don't think they will succeed. as if trying to prove your points. a representative of the state department stated yesterday that the u. s. is not aware of any persecution of the ukrainian orthodox church that they know nothing about it and that they see nothing wrong with it. rushes foreign ministry has already issued a response. so my question is, why on earth are they turned in blind eye to the soul? after all, the west is always so vocal about religious freedoms. every year they issued reports of freedom of religion worldwide denouncing russia for allegedly refuse an old faiths and denominations that the right to practice their religion. how then can they ignore such violations in ukraine? it is like they say might makes right, the u. s. and its satellites,
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the so called collective west have long since lost touch with reality. even now they refuse to let go of their perceived victory in the cold war. for russia, the legal success of the soviet union, things were tough in the 1990s. and in the years that followed, but we managed to get our act together and now we stand firm a stronger, more much sure. nation. we now have a clear sense of dignity and self worth. and i feel we should continue to instill these ideas in our people and defend thus far our own sake above all. because the things happening in ukraine, the trends we see across western nations, that something which clearly must not be allowed into russia. we russians have already had a fair share of turmoil in godlessness. and let me tell you, it was an ugly experience. and one more thing,
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no country on earth has unleashed more was and conflicts killing millions of people than the united states and its vassals in their 280 plus year history. what can we say about yugoslavia then? what can we say about a rock? libya, syria, i can keep this, this going. vietnam, afghanistan, i can go on forever listing countries that the usa and the nato block invaded uninvited, wreaking havoc and killing peaceful people. just recently, there was an anniversary of the invasion in iraq where the civilian population was exterminated. and no one was held accountable in you as for what was happening in soviet times when the baby c, c, n. and voice of america was saying that that when no religious freedoms in the u. s . s. are indeed those freedom were absent. there were threats from crucial to show
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the loss priest on t v. we remember those threats very well. the church had to survive and it did survive after the renee sons' of the 19 ninety's. it lives now and has a voice of its own. what voice america's now we can see very well you as there is a real battle going on. while we call it a special military operation, where our brothers and sisters are fighting now in the historical sense. while friends do as you wish, it's up to you to be leading entire nations into the fires of hell. poverty wishing them extinction, he talk about gender issues, lack of maternity, parent one and parent to miss the holy patriarch, said in his recent sermon and a completely unacceptable for a normal person understanding of social life and so on. no, we don't need values like these. we live by our own principles and our own values.
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it is over these civilizational values that a war is being waged now. a war for people, souls and their right for sovereign existence and living. at the same time, ukraine claims to be restoring the key of an ruth to be the direct descendant of the key of and bruce. they say that one day they will restore it. yet at the same time, we hear from ukraine, authorities, officials, and clergy that russians are 2nd great people. there is no, as they say, how does it all relate? on the one hand, we see russian people being killed and the pressed. on the other hand, it's covered up with ideas of imperial grandeur and restoration of historical memory. what is wrong with this historical memory that a ukraine is now peddling? i think instead, it's a simple case of double standards. when you take something from people and give them something in return, you have to justify somehow what you're giving them these days. we had nazi
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fascists. slogans like ukraine above all. and there's no other way that similar to how things were developing in the late 19th thirty's, in germany and austria. we remember only 2. well, how that played out and how many millions of casualties it cost the entire civilized world. but it's a very convenient strategy. and that it can be very quickly restored like this is a reason why i remember the 19 fifties and 1960 s, when been derek gorillas were hunted down in ukrainian forests and swamps. some of them successfully pretended later to be common soviet citizens. unfortunately, 19 nineties were a terrible time when we lost several generations in a spiritual sense of the word. something that nobody wants to repeat to day it might subject to view the west is pumping up ukraine with ideology. this falling on
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a very fertile ground. they know very well what buttons to push to turn ukraine and the ukrainians into an anti russian platform and to make 2 paypals kill each other . we know very well that many believers of the ukrainian orthodox church, not the pseudo orthodox hell. ho created at the instigation of the us through thy great vassal patriarch, agape, the ukrainian orthodox church, his worthless thomas a piece of paper that means absolutely nothing. and when the time comes, the counsel of the orthodox church is all a meeting, a convention, whatever you call it will take place when the patriarch will have to answer some very inconvenient questions. if he fails to answer them, he'll have to be tried. he'll have to go on trial citing to bring peace to every one every way. and ukraine, as he claimed, was his mission. instead, he only deepened the division and discord that his led to bloodshed,
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priests being killed. parishioners had denied their constitutional right to practice the faith of that choice, such as the orthodox faith. and it is with regret that we must acknowledge, that it will only get worse as off to day. this situation has no solution and its escalating to a catastrophe. and i believe that the current ukrainian state with its nazi colored ideology and its zealousness has no future. he, at the same time as far as i know, ukraine has claimed that his departure from the canonical orthodox faith is dictated by his desire to join the european community. even back in the 90s, ukraine admitted that orthodox faith was the only really strong link between ukraine and russia and other brotherly nations. and those who sought to join europe were also seeking to destroy the connection. given everything were now seen in ukraine and with such valleys, how real is it for it to actually join the european community?
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does europe need ukraine was what it has to offer. well, right now, half of ukraine's population is living in europe. i know a lot of people including some friends who live in different countries of europe, and we're getting different accounts here ukrainians, a treated in europe, a 2nd rate, and even 3rd rate citizens. a negative attitude towards them will only increase with time. there's nothing that can fix this because it's about a huge difference in mentality, education and life values. it's totally impossible to comprehend what kind of future the present ukrainian government is trying to build for its nation. the authorities guided and funded by the western coalition, whose ideas they channel, throw millions of people into a furnace as horrible events. we have to think about the future people who say that they value the ukrainian genetic pull must be aware of what is actually happening.
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you can't feed the people with propaganda all the time, but using russia as an excuse, russia defined as stance a long time ago. if russia had followed the example set by the u. s. and nato, with that so called interventions in other countries. they would have been millions of casualties, but we consider ukrainians. i'll brothers and sisters know. that's why there is no carpet bombing, no strikes against central locations. russian soldiers sacrificed their lives for the lives of ukrainian citizens. no was a fault that way. i'm not a military expert, but i've spoken to many officers and commanders. they've explained to me how this should have been done in accordance with regular combat principles. if we wanted a quick victory, russia would have achieved that. but at what cost? h d roots, if occasion campaign has been launched in ukraine as society for example, services in orthodox churches are now to be conducted only in ukrainian. the
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russian language should never be used. the ukrainian orthodox church, his band, and many regions. how logical are they staffs, do they make any sense of such a society? you can't find logic in ukrainian society right now. it's not that there is hatred towards everything russian. but let me remind you that the main liturgical language in the russian orthodox church is church lavonne egg. and it will be spoken in cathedrals, no matter what that is. just a matter of time and prayers for the patriarch of moscow will be lifted again and not the way they doing it. now mentioning all other priests of local churches, they will follow the proper traditional guidelines. but again, it is just a matter of time. nobody will forgive anything in this respect. this is being written in blood. many people are giving their life for that right now, but we must appreciate that and be serious about it because the religious conflicts,
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the ukrainian leadership, is stoking now, ah, inadmissible. the fact that the international community is silent is a very bad sign for the future. but the good news is that it's revealing the true nature of the west, the bloody west, which throughout its history, has been profiteering at the expense of other people's suffering and misery at the expense of other nations, peoples, and countries. the west has been conquering, in other countries, not for the sake of restoring order, although what has the us to do with order in europe. i've mentioned the yugoslavia example already what has the u. s. sitting across the ocean to do with restoring order and imposing its vision in the middle east. in asia, america has no been this being in all these countries. the u. s. however, has a very clear idea about business interest. its own, primarily,
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this country with nato in tow, comes for the resources they realize very well that soon enough there will be a global shortage of resources. a food of clean water. all the things that russia has in abundance that naturally makes russia price asset for the west and to that are vast lans. we know the score at the same time our western bought and so to speak, or trying to propose a so called ether ceasefire. we have heard something to this effect from france and the vatican keeps trying to insert itself as a piece broke or trying to reach some sort of settlement, how hypocritical are such overseas, given the fact that we know how biased they are, they can hardly be described as disinterested how absurd other calls for peace. let's leave the vatican aside for now. i'll say a few things about it later. you've mentioned france. how do you think france can
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propose peace initiatives if it's a direct participant in the conflict of supplying the ukrainians with powerful, heavy weaponry? that's right. what, what piece are they bringing? i've been following political developments and we've recently witnessed president mac ron's laughable visit to china. what did he accomplish? china did confirm that it was prepared to contribute to a settlement, but only provided that all countries interests were taken into account. we need to know what exactly you're proposing to us. are you suggesting we should stop again and leave dozens or hundreds of thousands of civilians to be devoured by another nazi regime so that residential districts can be shelled again. look at what's going on in dynette school. it's been more than a year since the launch of the special military operation. and we still can't stop
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this carnage, but civilians are dying. they are deliberately targeting residential blocks, markets, hospitals, schools fed them. video proof is available online. all of this is being ignored, so, so you're absolutely right. this position is hypocritical and pathetic. whether we're talking about the french president or spokespeople from other european countries, they're trying to say something. they have to say something for their voters. so they're saying it, but mister micron had better look at what's going on in his own country, france, how brutally protests over raising the retirement age of being quashed. people a being beaten up, hundreds and thousands of facing a legal charges protest is being injured. while i've recently seen a video of a poll woman being thrown by a special forces officer over his thigh,
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she landed on the ashfield. and i don't know if she even survived the injury she received. now let's go back to the vatican fest off the vatican has not sent any thing official regarding this east at cease 5. he mr. pest cough confirmed that nothing official has been achieved. the vatican implies that it has a certain point of contact in russia, which allegedly is always in touch and ready for a friendly chat over the phone. i personally may have friendly chats with whom ever i want, but that's not the official position or an addition. if we look at the vatican objectively, and the vatican would like us to see it as objective, will say that it has been receiving the so called victims of russian aggression and the wives insistence of the as of fighters. this ultra nationalist battalion is famous for its killings and sadistic violence and deserves to face an international
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tribunal together with other units of the same nature. the pope receives them, gives them a very warm welcome drinks tea with them. it gives them a pat on the shoulder, pledges his support for ukrainians and so on. again, what i'm saying here is my personal position. some of my colleagues may disagree with me, but i don't see the pope as a peacemaker. not in the least bit peacemakers. don't act like that. why doesn't the pope talk to the italian prime minister, for example? why won't he try to get her to stop arming ukraine? he doesn't do that. why is he maniacally trying to push his advice or suggestions on to us that do not really have substance? that's my take going back to the issue of ukraine and believers and right now around easter time, there have been denied access to many holy places. we've seen outrages developing
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us around for the key features clara with monist repossession been confiscated for the needs of the orthodox church of ukraine. the same fate has befallen all the places of worship and keith, which has been handed over to the key of back church authorities. what do you think they were trying to accomplish by those crude methods? what's the long term objective? and is there hope that these holy places will be returned to the rightful owners and will be accessible for churchgoers at some point, i don't doubt for a 2nd that it will go back to where it should be. the lord will say to it that justice may triumph. we've already talked about the persecution of the followers of the ukrainian orthodox church. what corridors of shame they've been forced to go through, like some ukranian officials before them, when they were being subjected to the so called lustration, or vetting sooner or later, this will end. it will end with the defeat of the satanist regime. it will ends
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with the return of the key of picturesque glover and other places of worship which have been illegally seized. and people will once again be able to pray that unfortunately, many of them have been destroyed. i wrote about that in my telegram channel. when it comes to a show down, there's no guarantee that we won't see something like what nazi germany did. when it blew up in, ty, historic districts. as its troops retreated in europe, towns were destroyed with thousands upon thousands of people were killed. god save us from this massive loss of civilian life. but everything was saying now is pointing in this direction. crowds mostly young people and minus a bang, fred nazi ideology, and these people the age. notwithstanding that you just go ahead and demolish
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everything in their way. however, sooner or later they will be stopped, for god cannot be mocked as people of faith, we believe in the power of the passion and resurrection of christ. that's why we started our conversation by mentioning that it's wholly choose day to day. and we can project this story onto ukraine. as i always say, darkness will always be followed by light, the light of jesus resurrection as we are getting closer to the holy easter day, which is the main holiday for millions of believers in russia, ukraine, and around the world. what would you say to them in these, trying and challenging times for the orthodox church? what's your word of advice for your flock? i'd like to wish our brothers and sisters patience, wherever they are, whatever corner of the world they might be in. we all will celebrate the resurrection of jesus christ. we all in one way or another. be one with god. we're
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going through hard times right now. so each one of us should share this east a joy as best he can with those who can't experience it fully. according to the news i read yesterday, all churches will be closed for worshippers in ukraine. one way or another, our lord will rise one way or another. he will bring joy to this world for another year. this joy of east to celebration should help us preserve peace. and most importantly, hope in our souls. in these turbulent times. thank you for these warm wishes and a very interesting conversation. thank you. oh, look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a
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