tv Interview RT April 18, 2023 9:30am-10:00am EDT
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new g i. g of with regard to joe by imposing the sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang, ah ah, the experience itself i, i mean the nuts and bolts of the training, et cetera, that, that wasn't too difficult. so in that sense it was underwhelming and i bought up the experience. so he got there and looking at the planet that was quite out of the ordinary air. and i, it did doesn't leave, you was very impactful. and then now when you return back that way, when you look at the colonel for a response,
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you get because it before it i compared to today, space flight was still a bit of a novelty or so. and especially in india, in india because we never had any activity like that so, so that was difficult to have. so people generally reacted so much to the image which was built up there. and there was only one tv channel at that time so. so in effect, her space came into the drawing rooms off for our indians and that he made quite an impact with them. so as a result of that, the adulation and all was something one was when he unprepared for so bad. so that was the difficult part, but then again, if you look at it as a, as, as a professional and like i sent, ah, the flight itself, the professional part of it somehow was not challenging enough. i would say.
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primarily because a lot of control was autonomous. done by the computers and there we were bigger test file it. we were an a fighter pilot before that, but we are used to more hands on control. so it affected was like waiting to see what happens. so you are just curious on rocha well during the transit. yeah, it did take us something to adapt to 0 gravity that took some doing because you can't replicate ah, let the exact conditions on ground, therefore you're not trained for that. so you fail of learning on the job. so that was i would say the segment that was a bit challenger, but otherwise, back a day you chose to participate in the program. how difficult was the competition
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and why do you think that you were chosen? her? i tell you of anybody anybody and i think we were probably about a 1000000000 of that time. if you'd us, anybody, anybody would of wanted to go because it was, it was such an wellness, call it and out of the world experience. ah. so who would want a piece of that action? ah, but to be quite frank. oh, i never ever dreamed. it wasn't one of my dreams. of course i dreamt of being a fighter pilot and i became one luckily her but never, never thought of going into space because our country never had a man space program. so it would have been short dial to just even think about. so i never thought about her, but oh, it was ours. was a different i think our flight was before it's time. or even now,
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we're just prepared, a babbs next year. we'll be sending our own no indian astronauts a border e bay indian launchers using indian technology. so we're talking about what happened 40 years earlier. so, so really speaking from, from my a planning standpoint of israel was really not ready to get into this part or for expiration is so was just busy with the satellite program. so, but because that then soviet russia, well wondered if i was, i have beneficiary of the cold war, i would say, because there was competition going on between america and russia. and russia wanted to, wanted the world to know that india is with them. and there can, so they offered that flight to india and are the so like i said,
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was not keen. and then mrs. gandy offered the flight to the the air force and ready gladly and in the air force grabbed. and then of the so he had said that it would be better if he could a get a test pilot because there wasn't any time left elections around the corner. so so, so i happened to be a young at that time, relatively happened to be fit because i was always an outdoorsy kind of a person in. and i had been to re lucky her to be the right guy at the right place of the right time. so could you tell us a bit about your ras, soviet colleagues, your interactions with them? the crews were, i mean, they were like, like a via does anywhere in the world. we have a special bond. so in that sense that done,
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i was the only guy doing the 1st flight. there were 3 of us, the other 2 yury militia than good. now, this circle of a bullets were, had already flown into space. so there was that sense of comfort with them. and um, and i think all in all, it was a, it was already a truthful interaction. they did the mentoring and there was no problem whatsoever. where was the so you steam beast and wherever you will train we did our training in o outside moscow at star city. does the unit ga gonna lead space sir facility the training facility and our that's where we trend l l. we moved to buy conner from where the launch took miss. so the final part of the training, just prior to the launch a practiced, ah,
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the last minute things like docking, if it won't go well them how to we are still managed to retrieve her the space way to sell. because if you can dockwood the laboratory, then you can do any experiments. so, so that's, but all the training was in moscow out of moscow. joseph got out of the star city. do you remember your fears if any, in the process or preparing for your 1st flight? i wasn't experienced just by that. by the time i was cynic. and i would say that her, all. i won't even sail military aviators, olivia, to us, have a reconciled with the prospect off it bigger riskier profession than what everybody thinks door today, i would say that crossing a road where this traffic is equally risky, but are being a riskier profession. some are we,
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all of us professionals of come to town means by then. so there was no fear at that level, anna, and the way i processed the fact that i would not be in control. and that my destiny is going to be shaped by a computer. ah, it'll shoot, i have to worry. and so therefore i just took it on my straight. okay. if it works, it works if it doesn't work, but then i was not the 1st guy growing up so many had been there before me and, and then they returned to. so, i mean, i really wasn't worried that on i was an observer. what are your 1st taught when you realized that you were actually in faith? it was absolutely stunning. no. of course, by that time, i would say gotten,
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went up in the c early sixty's. and the americans followed that after. so there was a lot of material already in the media in terms of photographs and things. so why really knew what, what to expect? and there were color photographs, but when you actually go up there, and the expediency or i would say the environment to your floor do all the time. some the, you're not used to that and, and the visuals are absolutely stunning. and it's, you know, in a very impactful way, at the scale on which things are and i, i would say that that gives you a wider perspective of your own existence. no. then therefore, you start, you will return as somebody who was a lot more mindful about the fact that there is no other place now, which is as comfortable as planet earth. and therefore, oh,
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we really needs to look after that and not to we need to take care of that, the sources and use them frugally and not do what we are doing because we are systematically, i think you do agreed a due to our so quarter development ah, we are exhausting the limited resources which planet authors god and bob. therefore, you come back with a, with a changed perspective in that sense, how long will you in faith for, we went up in the saw your sweet docked with the saw you were transferred to the side. you saw a tunnel which was formed due to the coupling of her so use and the solute and we lived in the solute which essentially is a steel cylinder, much smaller, smaller than this. oh, and then that's it. me work there. so it was in that confined space where we
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stayed for 8 or days hub, but that's no great shakes because the world record us $400.00 plus days. so. so sir, it's a wonderful place to wizard, but a difficult place to work in. i would say everything keeps flying because there's no gravity. so all your tasks you have to do it sequentially. so you can't let things keep it on the table. i mean, everything would be flying off the table. so one by one, do you go to do those stocks and it takes a lot longer. we need a lot more patience. julie de, not more diligence, but that's, this is something which you pick up and you learn on the job to really curious to know what you eat in space to watch for good faith. we had to choose between empty dishes now and her. of course it, it could be laid out like a,
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like a buffet on, so you had to go to the larder and select whatever you wanted. and it is a whole new way of eating. there we go. it. and in fact, even the way the food was prepared, ah, like rice was prepared and in a manner such that the greens would stick to each other so that they don't fly about and 0 gravity. so you had to gov, piece out with your spoon and put it in their mouth. so they were non registered and dishes. they were you know, while we were under training, we were introduced or different kinds of foods. and that's when they found out who was fond of worked and they used to make sure that when that crew goes up, those dishes are available. those thing in the tins and bread zen with honey and stuff and where it was lovely. and yet at least my appetite increases. i,
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i over it, i the, i felt the need for more mustard. you know, because we got the taste buds gonna come alive. i saw it was, it was nice. there's no problem at all. so did you do any sort of special exercises to stay fit out there? now you do because i'm, when i believe that when you're not using muscles and remember the hot is also muscle, it tends to get d conditioned when you are in 0 gravity. so because nothing weighs so exercises you don't do. so you have to find ways to lord your body either from a cardiovascular standpoint, all from her, from the, from the room for the muscle tone to return. so you, you do a good of dynamic tension. you do a bit of runny or cycling her over there just so that you get, give yourself
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a cardiovascular massage. and so there are techniques and that's how you would skin . so i have for the, for more than former days. now let's see how, what solutions that come up with when you actually walk to the more known and other planets you spoke to with a den, prime minister off india, indira gandhi from back. what did she say to you? well, but she got off her lead the questions richer, i would say the arrest of the observers in our country were keen to know the answers off so. so naturally the question, one of the questions was, she congratulated all of us for having completed our training and her having a successful launch. and they love, of course, the inevitable question as to how india looks from space. so. so one have to
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describe that. in fact, i would say that though, i did try my best to share that experience because one of the programs from orbit was when i was given a video camera and i took it around the spur salute 7 and through the windows showed them how the earth looks it was my attempt to share the lovely visuals with my countrymen. would you likes to return to space? i would yes. ah, i would. what i would like to return as a tourist. reason being that her space is such a inexpensive activity that when i was there last, each minute of the space flight was one, had to do something or the other to make the flight productive. so there was no time really to pressure nose against the window. and look at the world go by. so i don't mind going back again. but as a tourist,
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back in the deep did you have any astronaut for all models? of like i said, this fell out of the blue into my lap. and all of us, of course you do, i govern was a, was a, the one who started it on. and then he was entered in there and that was created quite a splash. so these were household names. you to go to an alan shepard and all these guys, but it was only later that when one was actually in this game, one cells that one realised the degree of difficulty. that is there, for example, we're in star city or met icons like valentin not that her school or like leon of. and then you found out that the kind of stuff they did, they did it for the world 1st time. love went out into open space for an extra curricular activity. now the association of space explorers. we went guys,
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lake roost mccandless. you'd heard about john young. i mean, these other real heroes your own, the because mccandless was untethered, he was, he was flaying floating next to the shuttle without any dinner and her and he was trying out the man maneuvering unit so, so there were a lot of role models. but before i actually went these household names, but you didn't really know what exactly they did. do you believe in existence off life, outside of faith in aliens? perhaps the happy doors have to look out here that i think we've got a little living on this planet. but because there are guys and where you know, people who are really greedy, who don't bother about her about either the environment for,
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for personal gain. people who don't her share. oh, where do you want to take all of this year at all? so we're revising, misunderstood the concept off, off of the living and exclusive lifestyle. this business off, oh, rallying under a flag, and they're protecting your borders. and when, when all of us have a common destiny, actually better than we are interdependent on each other. so. so conflict for profit. oh, i mean, this is a brilliant concept except when it comes to the way india looks at, you know, the inclusiveness. now our, our culture is, is different. it as we look at the world as one family. so should doctors the difference talking about aliens, other intelligences?
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i think it's typically add elegant of us. he ones to think that we are the only intelligent life in this was universe. is just that are sense of distance is limited to oh, whatever we are used to. oh. and science hasn't dreamy yet opened all the doors. we really don't know how we can change dimensions. we don't know what lays on the other side of a black old maybe there are other universes that are the civilizations just that we haven't made contact. but to think that the only one me guys, if really the read that special would we behave the ravia behaving, is my question and my dog. and therefore i think that has to be alien life more reward than us. and in fact, i look forward to that kind of her contact her i've been a,
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i believe font of science fiction. and her, this topic has been covered wildly or by signs fiction, movies my books. and it resonates with me. do you believe in the next 50 years? the thor, we'll be able to open a settlement outside of art on another planet. maybe? yeah, we from a techno logical standpoint, we will be able to open. but whether we are willing to deride anything from it on, on a, on a, on a happiness scale, i have my doubt of primarily because of your, your leaving buttered eyes and going into a desolated air, trying to reboot of another butter does. whenever it actual fact that you have not been able to sustain the battery as you are in so, so i would say technologically,
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it will be you will be capable of doing that. but i would rather that i some kind of regulation comes in me because our track record hasn't been very good at all. so does not weren't building a far off hill when you have better as right here. so let's practice sustainability on planet earth 1st. before we move out, otherwise we are going to after us or de loser, wherever we go in our solar system. i move, we go to get our act right. we go to see what we've done. we must realize what is the end use off of technology. we've never bothered about that new script. the ottoman we have made nuclear bombs. jo. oh, it's time to get off this belt of fur, shall we say development technology, local development, and ask ourselves some hard questions and get our act rate. before we move out. if
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you were offered to colonize on the planets without the possibility of coming back to, right, would you take up that offer? yeah, i would, i would do that with the, with a different set of woods. i would do that. i mean, here we already have the united nation office or for outer space affairs, which has got oh, was in 2020 document which stalks off the a fall to space being for the greater good of human kind by we don't see any results on the ground so, so, you know, you got all there has to be alignment, awful, vision. before we start achieving that, risen if we're gonna continue all in the same way. then all we are doing is exporting conflict from planner to us into our, to space. so therefore i need, we need to be, i believe the need to be a lot more circumspect. and i think, oh,
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countries like india, countries like russia really who we have a different world view. we have a different l o, clock to space we, we talk of cooperation though we talk or sharing of data or whereas sir, the western hemisphere, the because of the economic model they're following, it's all about profit and profit is all about exclusion, not inclusion. so, so there are a lot of complex things to be taken care of. so yes, sir, i would encourage, because ultimately, the factors, the human race is at risk if some asteroid comes and hits us. and we do not have a copy of her gentleman anywhere else. so so yes, we do need a backup plan, but not as chaotic as, as we have now. and we need people to invest more
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in, in the future of human kind and which has to be inclusive and nordic schools. ah, i think in that moment so there is a much clearer understanding of the causes meeting up to this crisis. even though the best in position is that it is an unprovoked i think that wilma, so understand that this is part of the u. s. lead to best strategy for the content men afresh out on the pathway to the containment of china. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even
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foundation, let it be an arms race is on a very dramatic development only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time. time to sit down and talk with somebody. do i need to come with key at the washington? keep the pros. do monica cranes give us a new i spoke with you. i need meeting with a professional lithium to walk the prevalence
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i did that with a a buzz back. i guess neo colonial it policies that control greenhouse gas emission standard, pull in the current credit ranking system bias and a failure. he not only blackmail me, but also my guys. and we told him what he wanted to hear. we did not any women and children. we said what he wanted has dictated to us as he
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