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is all over the world, and certainly here in the united states, i've interviewed for us. presidents side founded a $1000000000.00 business. and through all that, i believe news should be honest and direct and impactful. in fact, the show is direct impact. ah, i want to start this conversation between you and i with what may be the most counter intuitive news that i can share with you. because it's a bit of a head shake or really you see while everybody is focusing on the south china sea and the taiwan strait and the conflict in ukraine between nato and russia and the ongoing chaos. busy in the middle east, there's this long standing tension with real clashes that are taking place. i mean
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real clashes that are taking place between 2 world powers. this is a battle that could be potentially anyway, potentially catastrophic. why? why? because, well, because both india and china have nuclear weapons capabilities and they share a border that is both disputed and fought over. and there have been many clashes between chinese and indian troops. recently in 2020 to 2021. 2020 or her i think we're good. and as you could see, as you watch these videos, the battles seem my word here. meander polish, the chinese and the indians are seen actually clubbing, each other,
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beating each other, pushing each other, trying to drown each other. and some of the video that i've seen this is all the way up in the himalayas, where the land belongs to india, but appears to be a part of china. and in some cases you can reverse what i just said and make it vice versa, right? so well, most people in the west barely even know that these clashes are in suing. they most certainly are. and it displays an apparent sense of almost a hatred between these combatants. and i should say this too, because i think this is important. let's not forget, india and china are the most populous countries on earth. so as part of the asian continent, they are part of a group of countries that make up 60 percent 60 percent of the world's population. and for decades now,
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india and china have been locked in this bitter battle. this bitter dispute along 2000 mile corridor of actual control indian defense officials say that the chinese military forces i've been increasingly laying claim to these territories that don't belong to them. and now china is coming out and saying that they are ready to protect, not only what they consider to be their territorial integrity, but also that it will battle to protect the territorial integrity of india's biggest rival. pakistan. by the way, this is important. there are also clashing along that disputed border leading to the area around pakistan, which then leads one to wonder where, where is this all going to lead? when you have an india involved pakistan involved in china involved in all 3 of them. have nuclear warheads. the latest skirmish occurred in the indian
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state of r and charl pradesh. it's near a $17000.00 foot mountain peak where india and china both maintain military posts. china says it was just conducting routine patrols while emma says no, you weren't. they say they were encroaching into their territory. meanwhile, some indian politicians are now saying, look enough is enough. this is indian politicians, right. example, indian members of parliament, one case in particular, raoul gandhi, he's blasting his own government, the moti government for not taking the chinese threat seriously. he accuses china of preparing for war and he says, the indian government needs to wake up his own government. in fact here, these are the words that he uses. i'm going to read it to you. he says, i have been saying this now for the past 2 to 3 years. it is very clear. he says that china is preparing for war. the government he says,
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is trying to hide and ignore the obvious threat he's referring to his government, right? his parliament and the prime minister. so who's right here and what is the us take, right? what is the west's take on all of this? could india b, the key to the u. s. his seeming need to go after china? k j? no, thank you so much for joining us. this is an interesting discussion. keisha, europe. you're a political analyst, you understand this region i'm. i'm not sure why the world is not paying enough attention to this, but every time i hear about these up skirmishes, these battles really, between them, indian troops and chinese troops. i begin to wonder baby, why we're not paying more attention to it. first of all, what happens during these battles? what's going on?
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well, i think they, it varies on the specific issue. but if you recall, last year there were some skirmishes in may. and then they built up a little bit into really kind of a man may lay type of fighting. that's the one on then right. the, the me a big one was the one of the rock. right? yes, exactly. and then in september, it, you know, shots were actually fired. so, you know, there's a being different levels of escalating and de escalating tension. nothing that is being so serious as to involve, you know, major armaments, but people have been injured. people have been killed, we don't know the exact numbers, but yes, this is serious stuff. and at the same time, i think the lack of attention to it in the current moment has to do with her and big you a status of india visa v or the west and visa v the united states. well, what are your, what do you mean? what do you mean by ambiguous?
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well, india traditionally has been an ally of russia and before that, the u. s. sr. pakistan traditionally has been an ally of china and they, the 4 of them have created this. ah, you know, a set of players that have sometimes related, sometimes not related to each other and it's created a varying set of relationships. but remember, india was supposed to get on board for the united states. indo pacific strategy. yeah, that's why it's called the indo pacific strategy before we used to call it the asia pacific. then it became the indo pacific strategy because you had the quad. this was india, australia, japan, and the united states. and india was supposed to blockade china along the left quadrant, or along the western front as a sit supp plan of encirclement around china. now,
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when russia and ukraine became, when this became a hot conflict, who india because of its alliance with russia, refused to go along with american entreaties to get in line with its agenda. yet therefore, since then the quad formation has weakened and india occurrences in india have been downplayed in the media, especially this kind of friction. why? because india essentially is playing more of an independent role in many of these battle royals, if you will, between nato and russia, and turkey and russia in the united states and china and russia. and i mean, this whole thing goes back and forth between some of these countries, by the way, that this one area, a rock, know that we talk about it, it's, i think we're going to be able to put it on a map and you're going to see that it almost looks like a peninsula that come out of china with
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a very small next he down there on the south side is a very little neck that's actually part of india. and then it opens up and it becomes almost like a, like an island or peninsula in india. i'm pardon me, in china. the geographical formation of it makes it look like it's really part of china. is that, or is that part of the problem here for india in china, reserve that and who doesn't really belong to? well, you know, i think it's, i think these borders are disputed and they go back to british colonialism. but the british used to various differing borders at different times. they had 11 different borders that they would use really mean by that because i think you're being very polite. i think what you're really a great britain, a crayon or a pencil and a piece of paper and a map. and he starts drawing lines separating though to
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countries part of china and part of india without any cultural knowledge or understanding of either probably. and the consequences for what he did on that day sitting there with that bottle of june foot are the ones that were seeing play out . no. did i overstate that? no, i don't think you're wrong. i think it's i think that in essence is what happened. just as what happened, for example, in south korea and north korea, what happened along the burmese border? it cetera. it song, oh, white guy ah, you know, with a man and a ruler, deciding where the board is go, what do you make of this comment by this member of parliament in india? his name is raul gandhi, and mr. gon be says in his opinion, and he said this for the whole world here it. i think he saying 2 things a, that china is preparing to invade india and in his mind it's about to happen any
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day. and, and to he seems to think that mowdy and perhaps other indian leaders are asleep and they're not paying as much attention to it as they should be paying. and i'm not quite sure what he means by that. but what do you, what do you make of those comments by mr. whole? gandhi? my think they're over the top. i think they're very extreme. china did have a border war with india in 1962, but then it withdrew back to the original line of ah, you know, line of conflict. so there had been conflicts the last time there was actual shooting. war was in 1962, but i don't think china has an expansionist or imperialist designs in that area. remember, china's 14 borders 14 land borders, and most of the time it has negotiated those orders peacefully to the satisfaction of both parties, usually with china, giving up quite
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a bit of territory. how concerned should the world b, when you take into consideration that we are talking about not just 2, but 3 countries in that area, all of which have nuclear warheads? i think it's, it's very, very concerning. and the piece that concerns me the most is that the united states would like nothing better than for there to be some kind of a border war that bleeds out china. we already see that there's considerable disturbance in pakistan. emma, where the chinese are building their belt and road the see peck corridor going down to quadra or it has been besieged with attacks in bulk is done. and so i think there is potential for further disturbance for further kinetic conflict. and i think the same thing applies all along the border. you're certainly not saying the
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united states would want to see some kind of nuclear engagement between these countries. are you i'm not saying that, but i'm saying that um, if you look at where china has the belt and road and where china has borders that are conflict true, you will see larger or smaller degrees of conflict that may or may not be supported by the united states and i think that is a very, very dangerous situation. essentially, what we're looking at is a conflict between the u. s. desire for continued una polarity versus the chinese movement towards plural polarity or multi polarity. the u. s. wants to resist this and i, it's not beyond, ah, you know, initiating kinetic war to achieve it, same's we're going to be right back with k j. now, by the way, i have
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and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the colonists, known as p a. no, ours took the best land from day one, the local population was put into an unequal position and was brutally exploited. this gauze, mazda is content. the people of algeria began their long term fight for independence . in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress the rebellion using cruel measures. full villages were wiped out packs of georgia and executions of civil people, including pregnant women children and old people took place more than 2000000 people were put into concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help the algerian patriots managed to induce france
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the start fees, negotiation. in 1962, evian records were signed, voting algeria in the past towards independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the deaths of one and a half 1000000 algerians with welcome back, i'm. i'm just sitting here thinking, and i'm thinking about what it would be like to only get your news from one place or one type of place. so i'm thinking if you only been listening to western media,
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right? china is a pariah. the u. s. is number one enemy, our government is trying to find ways to put china in it's quote, unquote, proper place. we ship weapons to taiwan, we ship weapons to guam and the japanese islands and australia and malaysia, et cetera, etc. we send battle ships to the straits of taiwan. we conduct military maneuvers and we even arrest the daughter of a chinese magnate, but still china's economy keeps expanding. then there's of course, the belt and road initiative. china as use this differentiated strategy now to be able to expand its reach globally, and it's countering the u. s. is more military based approach to those types of things. so what's the key? what's the key to the west? a desire to counter even defeat china. many around the world who study this
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g, a political battle would say, the answer is in a word india, india. if the us could get india to really join forces with it. and as it's taking sides against china, against russia, and against all the other us proposals, it could change the global dynamic altogether. and that may be why that border clash is more worthy of attention than what it's actually getting. which is why we are focusing on it. we're backed out with k j no to continue this part of the conversation in k j. you mention that previously that the united states would probably like to see nothing more than some kind of
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um dispute. ah, in that border that involves countries like pakistan and india and china. and while that's unsettling to anybody listening to you thinking, oh my god, these countries are very powerful. they have nuclear warheads. we wouldn't want to see that happen. you suggest there's several reasons why the united states would, would, would, would almost take some pleasure out of it. you mentioned belton road, which obviously as an economic play. but then we've been watching what's been going on between russia and ukraine and seeing how the united states is just played into that full bore with the help of the u. s. media. and it seems like every week we send. busy another $11000000000.00 and armaments to ukraine. i'm thinking this sounds to me like a money making venture. would that offer another money making venture, whether to be that skirmish for the u. s. and might that be another reason for them to want to go along with? well, this certainly the aspect of a military boon dog involved. i mean,
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no war is good business if you are an honest manufacturer or if you're think tank related to an honest manufacturer, or if you're a politician who's funded by a think tank or an honest manufacturer. so definitely there's the aspect to, to put it kindly, military canes, units and where you're stoking up economy by pouring funding into the military industrial complex. but on the other hand, geopolitically it's serves the u. s. is design in the fact that the u. s. is looking for unipolar, a gemini, it wants to control the world. it said this since 1992, and it has been working its plan and planning. it's work since that period. we're talking about project for a new mc american century, which became the bush doctrine, which became the obama doctrine, which became the trump doctrine, which is now the bide and doctrine,
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otherwise known as the end of pacific strategy. so there's a strong continuity, and there are a lot of invest at players that want to see this escalation. not simply because it's so stem from the economic standpoint. but from a geopolitical standpoint, anything that bleeds out the 2 center countries that they see as the greatest challenges are greatest enemies than, namely russia or china. they see as being to their advantage should have been doing a lot of reading lately about the vietnam war and coming out of the korean war. and it seems like at the time our fathers, i guess when our moms were told that this had to be done, because you know, my goodness there's, there's domino fury and these folks are about to take over the world and their communists. and if we don't stop them, they'll eventually be in your backyard. and we bought into that theory until the media wised up. and you know. busy great journalism institutions like cbs news and
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the new york times and started writing that this was all bullshit. and that it wasn't true and that we were being lied to by l. b. j, and by president nixon. and ah, eventually the truth caught up with us and we stopped on to a certain extent. we did the same thing after 911 and we used instead of the domino theory, the fact that although the hottest were coming and soon they would be in our back yard, ripping our daughters, et cetera, et cetera. and now that's kind of waning, and it looks like we need a new argument, but there's a sameness to the story, isn't there? yes, it's exactly, you know, it's a template. they keep on repeating the same formula, the same tropes and the same strategies. so this time brown, china is the great enemy, the great satan. and they are using the same kind of information warfare in order to deal legitimize and to attack it. and then having done that, then what you do is you create as of you know, her, you know,
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the leadership has said you create, quote unquote, a binding strategy of other countries against china. and currently the thinking is that what you do is you provoke a conflict over taiwan under the pretext of preventing conflict, anti one missile, highly for havoc, a tory, and then once having done that, then you're going to rally other countries against china. primarily, japan will be on the front lines. it will tie one island itself will serve the role of ukraine. a japan will be the kind of big attack dog and south korea because it has the largest conscription capacity will also be involved in units. i got the south korean prison as already, you know, i hinted that he's on board for this. she, she has also said that he is out for this. so really, you know, this goes back to what you were talking about earlier. and i think this kind of puts this whole conversation together now,
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which is fascinating thinking about how we started this conversation. we've got chinese troops fighting on the border with in these disputed areas with india. we've got pakistan looking along and saying which side am i going to take? most likely, i'm going to go along with china because i hate the indians. ah, and what's the cause and what's the root cause of all this? and as you're explaining the rest of the end, the mind, the rest of the story and putting all the jess pieces together, oh, i think we lost you for their 2nd, but you're good, you're good. as we put, so as we put this chess pieces together, the missing piece, the missing link, if you will, in all of this for the u. s. if we're going to talk a gemini, if we're going to consider the end, the mind that you're making now for what the u. s needs, it's india is india doesn't go along with this. the u. s. is in a bad place to try and job on meet its goal? no, i think it's very important. india's in very,
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very important part of this. once again, as i said, this is why we're using the 19th century terminology of the indo pacific before. here it was always the asia pacific. this, the bismarck enter, that the us is brought back because they want india to be the left flank of this encirclement. so they need so they need india ah, to be in a conflict with china. so therefore, that situation, speaking of the west, they would like to see more bodily royals, as we said earlier, conflicts that they would like to not see india take russia side and the situation with ukraine. they're disappointed with india for buying rushes oil when they sanctioned it. and now they're probably disappointed that india is not coming out. ah, perhaps so more fervently against us sending trips or partnerships along that dog, taiwan straits. correct?
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yes, and you're absolutely correct. and remember, india traditionally has been non align. it's tried to steer a path between the soviet union and the united states. but it has a long and close history with russia. and remember that russia, what you ssr. and remember, russia has close relations with china. now they are in, you know, they say they're, you know, they're closer than an alliance. my faxed to you, thanks for sharing your wisdom with us. we very much appreciate it. thank you. pleasure to be with you. before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. it's simple, really. we kind of want to de silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little boxes, right, where we never look outside of those boxes to see what else there may be truths don't live in boxes. truth is everywhere. how much interest. and i'm going to be
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looking for you again, right here. or i hope to provide a direction ah ah, ah, during the 2nd world war, the nazi occupied poland valinda was a farming region. today is part of ukraine. between 19431945 members of the ukrainian insurgent army led by step on bendara. nasa could thousands of poles and valeria in a diabolical ethnic cleansing process. the murderers were particularly horrific and brutal villages were burned and property. looted the bellini. a massacre is without doubt, one of the bloodiest episodes in polish ukrainian history. why are ukrainian politicians still reluctant to talk about these events?
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how to modern day ukraine and poland view this tragedy of the past? and why does the memory of albania still divide people? ah, so the real problem is the fact that nobody knows which is the easy. is it just an audience of countries and zahn? ah, you had to lead this county's side of a position before i think an easy position or is it is a kind of for did risha we school to count trees being like state in the united states? ah ah, needs to come to russia state. oh never. i mean those landscape
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