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wanted to get thrown economic interests. and on the other hand, bureaucrats like burrell here, who seemed to be placing the need to virtue, signal, european unity at all costs above everything else. but that cold does have this long standing fantasy of building a collective european defense. and any european navy patrol would depend heavily on france, so it remains to be seen as mac home was ultimately tempted. seduced by arouse offer to use the china taiwan issue as a showcase for those european defense fantasies which could end up being a big display window. that risk getting a huge rock tossed right through it goes to child university chair, professor big to go says it's such a dangerous step by european countries could home peace prospects in the region. i was street as of now and for many years in the past has been a peaceful. ready street, it is a very important street for international commerce,
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and china has more vested interest in protecting, maintaining the peace and stability of the taiwan strait probably than any other country. for european catches to patrol the taiwan strait. first of all, it doesn't make any sense. it doesn't serve any constructive purpose and it will be destructive of the prevailing peace and stability in the taiwan street itself. so i hope those countries and talk about military patrol of the taiwan straits will have 2nd thoughts. they are not thinking carefully about the consequences of that and they may not know what they will eventually get if they take such dangerous steps involving the taiwan strait itself. and finally, china is celebrating its 7th space day to day monday. more than $200.00 a science events will be held as part of a series of ceremonies. now, john has been celebrating cosmo 6 days since 2016 on this day 52 years ago. the 1st
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chinese artificial earth, satellite sites dong fun. hong one was sent into orbit banks. the launch china became the 2nd country in asia to have a space program. the history of money cosmetics in china, begun in 2003 when hi cannot young leeway completed china's 1st flights into orbits on the sions you 5 spacecraft since then, china has come down to 10 missions with 16 representatives of the country space program blasting off into space. now he gets the footage of mass with china releasing its 1st map of the entire surface of the red planets. the data was collected by the tie on when one spacecraft and the pitches you can see small craters, ridges, june's and other features on one of earth closest neighbors. in 2021, china under the spacecraft on mars for its 1st time cdn correspondence we lay visited an exhibition dedicated to space day and gave us the details. as you can
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see behind me, these are the motto i'm trying to long, much carry a rocky. have you can see from the very last the trying to the law much why the currently most powerful kevin iraqis. and here is a law much 3 b. and this one is a lot of stuff and camera rocket. it's mainly used for long the general cargo ship . and this is, the vision is only part of me. here is activity for the space day of china. actually this morning after the opening ceremony, we also met some our colleagues from our customers and a lot of international organizations panda. space agencies have also come us to celebrate to the face of china with chinese colleagues. 5 minutes either sounds good. yeah. and from the national space put in the region has that china, as since from lunar sam posed to russia as well as from this year for
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the benefit of human cons. so yeah, there are a lot of activities including high level discussion. and also forums will be field hungry problems. we problems to celebrate the space day of china and the to promote the people use the outer space with mankind. a number of international slogger scholars and also experience let's talk about your space through one with their counterparts. well, that's all from me for this hour, but up to a very short break it will bring you an interview with a victim of us torture, the infamous abu ghraib prison. so do stay tuned, that will nazi oh
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to my arrest. they took me in for recording things on camera. when the americans 1st arrived to baghdad fell, what we saw it 1st was very different from the reality i experienced in prison. the americans arrived with promises of security, democracy, peace and freedom. and we welcomed all that. under the dam, there were belly, any freedoms left in iraq, so we said good that see what we could make of it. maybe we can start our lives in you. but then we saw the americans do things in the streets of baghdad, things that were very different from what they promised. we had people, we trusted our religious leaders, but the americans were invaded with whom you never knew if they were lying or telling the truth. we lived like that for a while. then came the arrests. people were taken at random and nobody knew why we watched this and we couldn't wrap our minds around it. where did the promised freedom and democracy go? what fall i was a period of jihad resistance against the invaders initiated by
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a religious latest. now what's important about my row? i was seeing the people who filmed the invaders getting clobbered there, but crashes on high 5th street in the our wiley neighbourhood and a few other neighborhoods of baghdad. and there, i was filming the evidence yet. they came for my brother 1st. the rest 1st started in the provinces, we never saw any freedom or democracy, only indiscriminate killing. they broke into our homes, assaulted and dishonored, our wives and sisters murdered people openly in the streets. we saw air raids against anti townsend communities and the suburbs of baghdad. so re rebelled against the invaders. what else could we do? there was not a single shred of freedom of democracy in the actions are religious, laid is openly called them. invaders are politicians at the time cited with the americans turning against their own people. that's what our country looked like for a while. oh, so like i said, my brother was one of the 1st to be arrested at the time i was filming the developments in various neighborhoods in baghdad on apple street. and on high for
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straight my, we filmed our people being arrested and murdered. we had footy showing snipers push on the roofs of hives, st gunning people down like cattle. how is that freedom and democracy and the rocky government wouldn't lift a finger? many of us were killed, murdered in cold blood, some were kidnapped. yes, they kidnapped people. there were people in civilian clothes, we didn't know who they were or whether they weren't for the americans. when the arrest started, we could no longer sleep safely in our homes. so we left for the provinces. they chased us like we were criminals. like we were terrorists, we didn't even know what tara was before they arrived. they got my older brother 1st, then they started looking for me. i filmed them and the horrible things they did on add port street and high for street. i watch with my own eyes, my fellow rockies fighting back. my people would never put up with the invite us. i fought them to because i won't allow anyone to invite my landon, humiliate my wife, mother and sister. so we fought, father, danny,
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they rested my older brother than my younger brother. at the time i was aim one of a rocks provinces. we had organized resistance move their, a strong one. unlike what the american say, it was the iraqi people who opposed them not some dissident factions. i filmed and sent footage to al jazeera al mana and 2 other arab tv networks to show how the invaders were treating the iraqi people. as for the rocky government, it assisted the americans in killing all people. the americans came to destroy us, not bring us freedom and democracy. the as to the rest itself started with me arriving in bagdad. i didn't tell any one when i'd be arriving all that i was coming back. it's all i was sleeping out on the terrace when they sent troops to my location. that night i remember wearing a dished ashy. we were having dinner. my brother cook make a bab, we love cabin a rocky cuisine. we also had 3 and some other dishes. i wanted to visit my brother who had been arrested a while before. he couldn't tell me they wanted to arrest me also. he wasn't
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allowed to keep in touch with us from prison, so we had no idea what was coming. like i said i was sleeping when they came out of nowhere, a helicopter came right above me. troop is descended from it grabbed me and clamped my mouth. shut one of the moss. are you to right? i said yes i am. they had an interpreter with them. who said i was under arrest. i was shock since i hadn't done anything wrong. they took me to the helicopter, put me in some kind of basket suspended on oaks of any same things like that in the movies than we took off. i had no idea where they were taking may or what crime had supposedly committed when they arrested my brother. they wrapped him up in duct tape, had to tow, like a mummy and threw him into a car. on the we arrived at the baghdad airport, so it was a short flight. they took me out of the basket and brought me to a place inside the boat. i didn't know where i was, and i was wrapped like a mummy and state like that for 3 hours. and then for women soldiers came,
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they asked you to rate a value. i didn't know what i've done wrong. i said, yes, i am to write and talk to them for a while yet then an interpreter came wearing goggles and masks. he said, you're a terrorist. and i said, what have i done to be called a terrace? i'm not a terrorist. he said, all right. and he turned on a water hose and told me to undress right in front of the women when they hit me with a stick on the head and on the back and drenched me with water from the 00s. and it was a cold day, then they left me in one of the rooms where i stayed naked for about 4 days. it was hardly any food. they would bring some flat bread, say food, and throw it at us. it tasted like paper, we didn't really know what it was, bread or some other kind of bakery. i was very hungry all the time. they gave us one glass of water a day just enough to wet our lips just enough to keep us from dying of thirst and starvation. i am with the interpreter and the women soldiers laughed at me. they said we'd been looking for you for 2 or 3 months, you've been arrested for fighting the occupying forces. i said i didn't fight them . there were other people in the people rise um, declared jihad against you,
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because you came and said one thing, but did another. that's what you're doing now is the best example that they tied my hands and took me to another room to beat me oxygen. then they took me to my older brother and asked him, is this your brother durham? he said, yes, they gave him some kind of injection and his leg went limp than they asked. my 2nd brother is this your brother durham? he said yes. and they took him away in italy, then they took me to another place where i was with 30 or 40 other prisoners. helicopters came and took away important people, those who were opposing the invaders and sent them to guantanamo where they sent about 20 people that i remember that very well they just came in a helicopter and took people away or sharing sin shall them investigation star. i thought it would take a month or 2, but it took 7 months. there was no real investigation. they just mistreated me all the time. they set police dogs on me and put my face against their muzzles with a face animal like that. you don't know what it will do,
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will they made me talk to the dogs? i asked, what should i say? these are animals. and they said say whatever you want. in general, i was talking to the dogs, they took notes and then checked. if i'd gotten anything wrong, then they took me to a different room and pulled water on me. i couldn't see where i was in another room . they beat me with a stick and broke my ribs. there was also room with like snakes. on one occasion, they wanted me to stretch out my arms to stand like a cross. remember when some western and arabic channels showed that picture of a person with his arms stretched out like a crossway, they wanted me to do the same about some a religious ladies by shit and sunny, but also put in that prison. i didn't know all of them. the americans tortured them too, but they said they would enjoy it and did not give out any information pima con. like i said, they would take us to different rooms in one room. you would be beaten in another room. they were snakes in a 3rd room, they were animals, then they would give a cup of coffee. but after you finish the coffee, everything would start again. that's what their investigation was like. they made up charges, they had nothing to do with reality. at 1st i thought i was the only person in this
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situation, but they with thousands of people who were accused of terrorism like that. and then the u. s. troops, who had god in the area began to clash with our brothers americans couldn't leave us there. but they didn't want to release to say that, so they moved us to another prison. that's not what a man would do. they would just acting like cowboys. chinook helicopter came and took us to camp boca. but that's where it all started a long have you becca alba. daddy had been in that prison. i'll kind of was also founded that dummies and they separated the prisoners and put them in different wings. one wing was for radicals. another was for people like the mattie ami, and the 3rd was for the sunny's up to the had he helped his brought the people to camp booker. that's why they arranged into several columns. my cousin assoni was with me, my brother ali, who had a long bed was also there. he's my older brother from a different father who had died by that time. my younger brother was also with me. we stood in a column. what i'm saying is that it was they who started the religious
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strife and all the problems in iraq started because of them. and because of them, iraq was destroyed as we was standing there, the interpreter came to us in austin, a u. s. sunny or she i to, why would they off that was the difference only. i decided to have a little laugh and said, i'm a christian. even though i'm a she, isaac, he asked me my name. i said my name is to read nail camille. he softened a bit because american sympathize with christians. in fact, nail is an old christine name that i got from my father. so my full name has bite shiite and christine brutes. the interpreter us, and are you, christine? i said yes, i did all that. i was sent to another wing, so she ice was sent to one wing sunni's to another and so on. those who had problems while at the site was sent to the radical wing, while radicals were recruited from al qaeda. so they use camp boca as a recruiting ground for militants that they use to destroy society. i know that for a fact i was kept in one part of the prison while my brothers were elsewhere. my
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brother was in a sheer wing of my cousin in the sunny wink. so if you or she, i to you went to one wing. if you're a sunni to another. and if you had problems there, you would be transferred to the floor where radicals were kept in all wings. they were people who tortured the inmates for information and brainwashed them. they talked about fat wasn't factions, but it was hard to tell who they really were. that was the 1st step towards organizing religious schools in the prison. and in the evening, chaos broke out. for example, there were full watch towers that turned in district clubs at night. when the soldiers went up, they put down their weapons and took off their clothes. we said, oh god, what is all this? we're not used to this. we honor our religious tradition. we pray, read the koran and keep the false. we ended up in that prison for having stood up against the invaders. because all that was of freedom and democracy were as far from reality as can be. i went out, relatives came to visit americans watched us closely paying attention to everything we were saying. making sure we didn't disclose what was going on in the prison.
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where is freedom and democracy in that? what we did get was torch up slow, death and poison food refrigerator trucks came in carrying crates of poison food, many of the inmates were poisoned. some of them even died. there were no medications. they just gave you any pellet and he sent those for treatment. who were on that death bed already? yes. so they waged a psychological war against us. sometimes they would set a tent on fire. oh, let place dogs loose on us. i remember one time when they set 10 dogs on us while we were praying, why did they do that? because they would unleash a blood bath and then climb watchtower to watch and love. we knew that something bad was going to happen when we saw one of the seniors go up, the watch tower. when we were surrounded by prison officers, we already knew we were in for another performance and we had to resign. otherwise, they would have killed all mutilated us. many tried to flee, but no one succeeded. some of the fail escapees were locked up in cells full of snakes to be eaten by the reptiles. we saw things that can't be described by words,
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so much suffering amity. they wouldn't let us smoke for entertainment sake. when we suffered without cigarettes, can we? they told us we'd get cigarettes if we brought him scorpions and made us take holes in the soil of spoons. in search of scorpions. we got 2 cigarettes a day for one swooping also they wouldn't let us drink tea. what is psychological wool? if not this, as i said, just now, the watch towers along the prison perimeter were transformed in strip clubs at night, where women soldiers would strip is beyond comprehension for the religious leaders that were, that were thus kept saying that we would stay firm and avoid watching or taken part in that could all but americans would force us if we put up resistance they burned down on tense, threatened docile took us to the extremist wing in what they apparently had an arrangement with them. once that we would be such in a humiliating manner, the wings inmates would beat us out or west, attempt to poke our eyes out with a spoon. when i got there, i tried to stay silent and low profile to get out in one piece with
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blue. o march 20th 2003, the u. s. army and its allies invaded iraq by noah. shaheen. the say to day let me know kind of was it anybody else 7? 07 out of, oh, i'm lim, dash in the hobby may the 1st 2003 us president george bush declared victory in the iraq war id there. fidelity owed up that would put up for a job with rental hydrogen to december. the 30th 2000 is still in
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iraq, a ah, how did you get? what was a ritual vanilla? i spent there about 14 months and then i was released as a rule when they were attacks and fighting a rupture, they used to say they would release half of the inmates to take it new prisoners who would then see to the difference between american promises and the prison reality i spent over year in that facility because of the trumped up charges against me and the deliberate foot dragging with a trial. when you get arrested and investigated, comes to see you at once. he's full of lies telling you the investigation has been prolonged for full months and we have to wait for 4 months wandering. what on earth they're investigating all this time? i know that in some cases it makes was so tired of waiting. when the investigation was repeatedly prolonged, they would admit any charges. the investigator brought against them and were ready
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to sign any papers. however, once the papers was signed, they were transferred elsewhere. and those they couldn't crack even by torture, was sent to one ton of might. i'm positive that many of the inmates were transferred to one santa mo. and we've lost track of them and know nothing of their whereabouts. a lot of people ended up like that. i left when someone was released, it always happened after 2 a. m. for some reason. they released those who'd been there for 4019, or 20 months. they set free. the inmates had been kept there for a while to replace them with new ones aiming to torture and break them as well. they usually came at 2 a. m, o may be 233, a m. as for me, i know they had a list of inmates who had been imprisoned for 14 months. there were 8 people on that list, including me. they lined us up and told us we were about to be released. i hadn't expect that the thought they were going to kill us or something like that. often after the prison and camp booker, i had stopped expecting anything good. a toll of was generally surprised when they
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told me i was free. in these to be added though, that they made us sign papers expressly stating that we can't fall complaints or make public any information pertaining to the prison's inner workings. they made a sign those papers saying they would bring us freedom and democracy. we kept silent, of course, wishing for all this end as soon as possible. there were 4 offices there. the 1st one was smiling at us as he explained about complaints and information sharing. then a woman came with the papers we were told to sign. a 3rd person was one of their seniors. he sat looking at us and then said, we're sorry. ok, let's consider your apology accepted, i replied, but you broke into my house and took away my equipment, forty's, jewelry and money. and he said to me that god, help you the hello. can you imagine that? he said that to me, they told me to call had quarters about the latter. but there were thousands of people like me that 3 quarters of all a rockies pass through that prisons. some of them were killed or died an incarceration. others was stripped of all their rights within me to cut
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a long story short. they dress, you in a dished ashy. give you a koran, then drop you off at one of baghdad streets to do whatever you want. i remember them giving us 50 us dollars to cover the public transport fe and they give you a one size fits old dish dasha of an unidentified color. it's like a uniform. the only inmates released at the same day were dressed in similar dish dashes. it was terrible to find yourself on a street dress like that because people start giving you suspicious looks wondering what had happened to you and not knowing if they were safe around you. and you remember that they were st. clashes at the time, but they released us. thank god and i continue fighting for my own rights and the rights of my brothers. one of whom is dead and the other crippled. and those of my cousin who is at home now and completely at a loss to know what to do with his life, i have nothing to add to that. why did the americans are such for others? what do they want? like i said, they did it to all the rocky people because they behave like cowboys, not men. they came here for money. they came here to destroy
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a rock. i have nothing to add. how do you reflect, you said yes, this is still affecting me as i think about what happened. it feels like i'm going back and reliving it. i try to forget, of course, but i can't. i think about it every day looking at my handicap brother. i can't forget my cousin who just sits around of home doing nothing. can forget my brother who was killed and i lost everything we had together. the americans still won't admit that he died because of them. but i will keep fighting because they've occupied our land. the message they proclaimed when they came here had nothing to do with what they actually brought. how do you my, who, the fact that only junior officials and soldiers wherever char, wow, wow. those who all right. such shaggy, so escape justice. we should talk about the top level leadership, not military commanders. we need to talk about those who came to our country and private jets. like i said, they came to destroy and oppress us. that is all. who do you whoa responsible?
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what happened is that the americans and american troops, i remember a special unit. they called scorpion. there were others as well. they reported to scorpion and they murdered, arrested, and tortured people. they are responsible. i'm not talking just about myself and my rights. i'm talking about hundreds of thousands of iraqis who ended up in prisons, people from all over a rock, baghdad, basrah, et cetera. the american stripped them of their rights and did not letting them fight for them even now. they destroyed the country, killed so many people. so many women and children ruined their homes. they stormed houses with only women and children side and killed them. and what are we to do? stay silent and only talk to god. this is not a solution. many people that we have spoken to in iraq, indeed across the world, said george bush, tony blair, should be charges warm. what do you make of those claims?
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yes, they need to be executed. of course i agree that it is their fault. what do you want to hear from me? you want me to go down memory lane again. i can't recount everything they've done. thought. what will it change? so you think they will fail? remorse, no. will they be prosecuted? no. those who are behind all this must be prosecuted because they responsible for the destruction of a rock. i have a lot of information about everything that happened. i can tell you about the hospitals. they brought diseases that still can't be cured. i want to talk through you and ask for the rights of the innocent who were murdered to be restored. they stripped all people of their rights. ah, ah,
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