blue and 2019, he was elected president of an eastern european country. most people could not find on a map, a comedic actor turned politician volunteer. zalinski went from only regional fame to household name across the globe in the span of just over 2 years or the year before in 2018 alone schoolgirl in sweden, protesting climate change in solitude greater to an bird than just 15 years old. at the time. was suddenly splashed across magazines around the world, invited to meet with heads of state, and speak at huge events like un meetings. and there are others, like alexey nev volley championed as the main opposition to vladimir putin or juan guido arbitrarily claiming his role as president of venezuela. there is

a laundry list of people who the western mainstream media have foisted across their headlines as some symbol of some cause or another. these so called independent individuals with a noble heart and victims of this or that actually in reality had throngs of p. r companies and government insiders and benefactors in the us, pushing them to the forefront to play the leading role on the world stage. to discuss these so called global idols and their role in the political theater, we are being joined by g met talk. he is a former swiss m p journalist and author, his newest book titled, ruthie occident. originally in french, translated to english is russia, west. d. thank you so much for joining the program. thank you for inviting me. you 40. she thought you were very, very proud,

very happy to be with you. a lot of years lensky has never waited into politics before his ascension to president of ukraine. how did an actor with only regional fame become president of a country and a household name in the span of like 2 years? this, i think a zalinski case is not unique in the story of what it is because you have other act also becoming president for instance, for now we got, he was the one you would act up before becoming president. and you have also, for instance, uniquely some comedian or you maurice like bit pick re lou who also created political party, very successful in italy. all other guys like values going in italy or even done a transfer was a tv star before becoming president. so zelinski case is not unique,

pretty specific. yes. in the sense it is a unique actor who is directly who came directly from the committee to the politics in very short time. in a few months we can see. and that's uni because we're not we got you was governor of california. you was in the board in politics before it became the president of. ready united states, so since he's case use or so, so, so, but partly very specific. how can we explain my view? and it's a huge advantage when you are in, you want to be elected to become a president to use your fame, your personal thing. so if you are, your name is known from to pub,

which was the case offers. lensky in quinn was very famous as a comedian, as a human resource at the t v. event in russia, but also quinn. so it's a big advantage if your name is already known, and it was also a crazy not a fake president, but he was playing his role before becoming the 2 president of the country. so maybe it has some influence about elections. but what also is important in the case of, of the lensky, is that you're, so you have a special look, you know, and you made a campaign that you made a campaign electoral campaign. 192019 saying, oh,

i am new on the scene. i am not corrupted as on our past president and i will bring you the piece so you made promises to. ready and then our citizens saying, i will bring peace, i will set the conflict and the crisis redress shadow price using the don't boss. so the made promises with which he betrayed as soon as he was elected. but before the election use this, let's say she's new with a pass talk, non politician as an advantage to be elect elected, and after you betrayed it after the election. that's why it was in my you success and sure. i know how

to talk argument. we can see you had the support of the main early docs of good country, so he had plenty of money to. so talk to him during he's an actor campaign, which is very important in politics without money. now in the democracy, we can, you cannot be elected. now the one is just one example. i have someone who seemed kind of plucked from that scary to become the face of a car or a symbol of sorts. when i turn birds, the young swedish climb at the best is another. can you think of others who sort of fit this description and sat in global idol? and why are these people used as you know, like a singular symbol? yes, for me. zelinski didn't came from nothing to do everything, you know, as i tried to explain because it was pretty noun in the russian speaking

countries such as ukraine, bill i was and rochelle before is his election as a, as a president. but the case of grant arkenberg is a little bit different because she was not now and, and she suddenly appeal on a scene in the not less than one year. we can explain that because she's also, she was also going to posture of victim. if you look at look person precisely right, that one, but she, she looks a little bit like you remember me b t b r a t v movie for the movie a made by stephen speed about this very

friendly sympathetic, n e t. and if you look at the face of dark space, she has something in common with short cuts, the sympathy of the people because of her special face. and i think to it as like as she is slightly, has been saying what to stick, but it gives to her some attraction to the people. because like e t, she is attracting, jetted something just as capacity and zalinski exactly has he's a good actor. he knows perfectly how to use all the tricks order order. ready yes, the capacities of to show he's was perfectly done for the job. because if you don't need the,

unlike not of politicians to learn how to use t, v to use the show show at the price, you know, artifacts and so on. because you already master everything for you know, for, for the shoe. so it could directly play the role of his existence, which was a big advantage at the beginning of this war in order to appear on a monday, well seen as, as a seen. you and i live in countries that are considered the west. does the use of such symbols, such idols have the same impact across the globe, say, i don't know across the global south, or is this a media invention for western consumption? for me, this kind of media publication is mainly for the west on public

because what is the goal of this publication? is to get to confess us to get the consent of the people to do arms expenses, to the publication of armaments, to the military budget. as we have seen, that the u. s. military budget has been increased in december to $858.00 billions of dollars. so for $100.00 billions. how can to previous one? so as you need to convince your public, to accept such expenses for weaponry or for giving money and to quit and so on. you need to fabricate these kind of, i goes this kind of concept, but mainly in the west, not,

not in the global. so maybe if it is, is if it is known in the global. so that's the 2nd advantage, but it's a site advantage, not the main, the main good. and in the global south, i think the public opinion does on does on to share you. if you look, the bus stop now is not accepted to take the sanctions against russia. that's not accepted to come see girls lensky as the unique superstar. and the unique global. i don't know if the good, you know, plan that. why? because in the south, they're not sensitive to the scandal book. we see both of these kind of double stand up. why? because they're accustomed,

they used to get the bombs on the heads. where now drug dot go with this plan that got bombs dropped in year. man, there were broken afghanistan in iraq then, sir, yeah, libya, you know, and these people, the people of africa, of muslim country, they cannot show up, is kind of publication. because that know they had experience how the west is using to scan of media publication to justify it until then, chance is bumping. it's killings in the global south mainly which is delayed the victim of this kind of by the population. so i think the thanks to god, thanks to 2 or wellness good populations of the global. so more

conscious of propaganda tend to we are us, we in the rest of the world than we are aware of game, aton is gonna stay with us coming up next. the human need to worship, are these political idols comparable to deities in religion, or might some call their worship call dish. we'll discuss it when we return, said type them out. we'll be right back. ah, ah, need to come to the russian state full narrative. i've stivers on the north landscape div. uh mm hm. the american house runs them out for a group in the $55.00 would be the keys on i need to bargain speedy. when else

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a conscience so. so me, me and if so would you pass for zappa? do my i just want to be sure that am yeah. still motion, i will beach rush you, but i see a boshoway a mug, which is suddenly in the early ninety's hungry was a country with a worst view of russia due to a storage disagreements left over from the soviet union in the white one and someone like yours, you know what i see if you must company in the come here to political mars and otherwise but, and i c k and i did it at the political move in the welcome back to the ammo. i'm manila chan, former swiss m p a journalist and author deem that one has decided to stay with us to talk some more. so when choosing or carefully curating people to

be idols like zelinski tune berg, navarro only. and others in this day and age of social media where the internet never forget. how did these idols managed to escape the darker parts of their past? it's very easy for them. it's, it's, it's not a problem for them. because as they have the support of the, all the western mass media from cnn to learn more in france from the phone book on your mind. it's i to, in germany, to washington post order way to west or wade your media. read you was academic circles. i mean, corporate, all the corporate, major of the weights of the west is mobilized to support them. so it's very easy to put aside the bad elements of biography and to

keep it under, under your cover, you know, and to exile, to try to, to, to, to make the focus only on the positive elements of the biography. look, for instance zelinski how the rest of the corporate media insisting about his big team award is. ready it is commitment for the good against the bad russian and so on. and forgetting completely home his scout, bella, luce investment is a real estate properties in florida in london. you can reach where with it by the palm drop papers,

but you have no mention of pandora papers and zalinski forts and how is using money laundering money and putting is money in florida. you are never kind of mentioned because it's, it has been put aside and by the you are connected, the drawing of course, the positive message message about them. forgetting all the bad sides. the darker sides of this kind of what people. ready the case of jan and ski, it's obvious for people who are knowing his biography. but if you are just a regular he called reading from time to time, a newspaper or listening to radio. you cannot know anything about his dark past because it says been completely concealed completely. he been and it's easy to do

when you had called to court boy. now it would be, you know, one thing if these people were merely cultural idols like a pop star, take madonna or the beatles. but these people have an impact on foreign policy. don't. i mean, how consequential are such idols on the world stage? yeah, we live in a world of stories ation of styles. you know, the movie styles are celebrated all the time and in good newspaper i to tv and so on. so i, there is, there is a big need for, for styles. and so there is a temptation to use the spouse to, to use that to defend, to cause any kind of cause it can be good, cause your money taken cause go,

no problem with that. but also for more or less less let's say walk through a case on. and so that's, that's the system off of mass media since one century ago. it's not yet beginning of the 20th century with the amount of the mass media did. this kind of star is ation use, so it can be used or the sense you have movie star or pop pop stars who. so of course like border with a way to say in gems of the far west you have, i'm just, i'm really naturally for your money tell you cause use for both the for instance, during the 19 ninety's they can have, they can be,

they can, they can be used in totally wellness of what they're doing thing, but also without being conscious of all we ask them to play and we can also, i wonder, we can also raise the question if the staff at the end, at the end of the day, if they are promoting a good course or if they are not using the good cause for promoting themselves to, to wait their biography. and to give you a name edge of to good the good to, to public, you know, and in may do it so. so question on because they can be used for good cause, but a good cause can also be used to promote the so called stung in several of your

articles. you have argued that the media is complicit in wars and conflict around the world, either by paying them too much attention such as ukraine or not at all like yemen and the worst part. the media now picking aside noam chomsky and edward as hermine wrote the book, manufacturing consent back in the 1980s. and by chance get home is definition of manufactured consent. are these global idols manufactured and what sort of consent are they trying to serve? yes, but i would the answer to this question because you know, for me, the manufacturer of consent needs or needs to be constant. you cannot see as you cannot in corrupt the fabrication of the concept, the manufacturing of constant. so you need to do it every day,

every week, every month, every year. because if you interrupt it, use it. you know, the attention of the public is collapsing is my mission. so you have to renew constantly, your narrow it to you. and that's why you need the old stars are coming from the movie, poke her music or any kind, you know, all. ready for the stars, why not? but you need also to create new stuff. for instance, as use now this does the landscape is a new star since this year, because before february 20 to 20022. you was only a new queen anne, president. not, not better, not worse than your door,

exactly corrupted or the pass code, the ukrainian president. exactly undemocratic because the we can sell or to last me job rep or post to read before. not only after february, but before you also present jane. it was on so before, so you want to exactly like a president. so it became a stop because we did request, especially united states that need new stars in order to promote the weakening of russia to promote the war against russia to promote the so called great against the bad russians. and so as

a nancy, you will last as long as this war will be supported by, by the west. because yes, as nice. explain the manufacturing of consent needs all the time to be, to be supported, to, to consume. you can see it, it's, it's consuming or so starts or start a new styles and probably a lens key one day will become a bus stop because we'll pick b l, like all consumer products or consumption in our society. it will be consumed in sense to gay, mental author of bruce, he occident, thank you so much for joining us on this very controversial topic. okay, thank you to you for, for following ursa happy to see you again soon. oh, now there is

a saying about social media like instagram or tick tock. never believe what you see, because as we know, these images are carefully and meticulously crafted, filtered to present whatever image the poster wishes to convey. the same rule can be applied to these. so called global idols. that's gonna do it for this weeks episode of modus operandi, the show that dig deep into foreign policy. i'm your host. mila chan. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next week to figure out the m. o. ah ah

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