i wish i could say yes, but i am not holding my blood people in positions of power in yo, including legislators. and again, they don't have to worry about it being deployed against used against, against low level government officials at evidence is illegality or things that are embarrassing to the govern. those are the kinds of leaks that got prosecuted around in u. s. modern history. one of the most in something called an affirmative defense whistleblowers are not legal court and say that what they did, they did in the public interest. them the judge didn't care. at snowden told us that the u. s. governor, the heroic whistleblower daniel hale told us that the u. s. military people including children. he is now in a maximum security put of an affirmative defense, the ill hon. omar bill would have allowed for loves a strict liability law that renders any even try to make the case. all they have to show is that and unlike every other law in the criminal system, you know,

the government fed, we, you know, we'd never tortured anyone. i mean, that's why they don't want there to be any kind of intent. and because you would actually understand why people are at, you know, and it having a strict liability large, virtually impossible to defend one of these cases because you don't have any kind of meaningful defense. you can raise an irrelevant at sentencing. meaning after you've pawn rate act about classified documents and the espionage act, we're going to take. 2 2 a look forward to talking to a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we should be very careful about personal intelligence. the point, obviously, lighting on various jobs with

ah, oh, never uncommon, the nurse lensky. meek. within the 55 with we will van the state on russia today, and split ortiz sport that keep it simple with pulse was to be titled me. i was out of mitchell was i your a bus driver, sales person, anyone to negotiate his 1st appeared with a rumble ramos my move just as if the invalid isn't going to be feasible. mentioned on from me. confident,

venus. yeah. this is him one single. this was to stick with the term strategic autonomy sounds good, defense, a sense of independence. but when you consider the french president using, after all, europe is no longer strategic or autonomy with attorney activist and whistleblower jeslane redock. she's the executive in washington. d. c. great to have you back, jess. much of this intimately involved in supporting assange and the work that he's done with wiki leaks, as well as lots and lots of diplomatic cables that argue government has pursued him . now for well over a decade of julian assange, many of us maintained that if his sanchez prosecuted execution, i think it's even broader than that. to the extent the journalists who were doing it practicing to terry and secrecy rules, subject secrecy. one of our journalists because we violated one of their secrecy

rules. it's frightening it at it's a dangerous precedent that actually including foreign correspondents for violating other countries. decrease a very chilling precedent because people are already information on the national security beat. is the journal aside in the source side, to, to talk about in their boots and hearing on the side of not reporting something that it's illegal conduct. just one of the things that disturb most of the major news outlets here in the united states, there was a, an open police and the lamond, and a couple of other papers. but at post and the wall street journal and cnn wise on his defense when, if julian is targeted, you know, i think the statement that came out you late and i did it is disappointing me the media in even the alternative media. but i think that's auth number of years that

it's hard for people, you know, whatever you think or care concerning him and, and, basing their lives at this decision will have, in terms of affecting all journalists and them in every possible way. and inquire, by the way, all the stuff in the indictment dates back to 2000 wish. i think these people like to say, oh, he's not a publishing that kind of litmus death. he's. he is a publisher, prosecuted under the espionage act. any josma can in classified is technically in violation of this law as not a real journalist and a renegade. and oh, he didn't and, and everything that has to do with and it's really slimy. i think people are sophisticated, but even this, oh, he's not a real journalist. that's neither here nor so i, you know, i, i wish more people would see create that really is gonna imperil all into

just do you believe that julian assange can get a fair trial in the who work for, or people who have relatives or friends who work for the pentagon, the department of homeland security or intel to get a fair trial no matter where he is, because he's being charged has been indicted in the most conservative court incident. the center of the c. i a, a, the, an essay be a hardly be a friendly jury pool. and again, it's known as a rock. it is a known as a brewed old, the most conservative court. so i eat the fact that they strategically decided and how much it's about politics. and now about any per station every single day, every time we pick up the washington post the new york times the day, but clearly the u. s. has had it sites i think has been very short sighted in terms of the deleterious conf. you work closely with myriad national security whistle blowers continue also to come forward. whistleblowers know the costs of waste,

fraud abuse, illegality, and threats to the public health and public out in the face of potentially life changing retaliation and tiffy retaliated against because in their minds there she told me, made a truthful too much trying to interfere in the elections people think they're not going to be punished, or which is illegal, unconstitutional, an unethical. that courage is contagious, and most people do have a conference in this country who are self starving and don't really care about the applicant sleep at night. they want to believe their country will do the right. how drone whistleblower daniel hale is doing. you're one of his attorneys. uh ge gave him a sentence that was significantly shorter than what the justice department lo, security prison, where he could also receive treatment for a medical care mom, security penitentiary. and even then, they put him department policy. how was he doing despite all very resilient ground? thought paul, ah, the judge actually yes,

was very sensitive. he anxiety and depression and wanted him on the medical. and unfortunately, that doesn't happen. i mean they're only to see. and so again it's he has a lot of restrictions that even death row inmates don't have, i don't have, they can communicate, they can write letters letter that comes in, is, is iraq. and he only gets a copy even as his lawyer. so it has been very frustrate, had made a recommendation that he be placed on a presence took advantage of that and put him in this young he in a c, m u. and he said, because his crime involved and i said his crime with communicate that that's the reason, the communications not with a hostile foreign agency. nothing like that tourney activist and whistleblower jazlyn radar for joining us. and that quote,

patriotism means to stand by the country. it doesn't save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands, but whether about the president or about anyone else on quote let. i'm john curiosity and you've been watching the whistle blowers until that. 2 2 ah, i'm retention that i'm here to plead with you, whatever you move at something, but so different opinions that you won't get anywhere, all the $1000000000.00 corporations, choose your fax for you. go ahead, i'll stay mainstream because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable because it might just change from the with the us cross lap last 2 bureau, you read different articles. different journals are clear, they don't want to lose. ah,

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