nazi, this is a war between russia and the united states. and nato escalates even more indiscretion, military operations becoming more bills of sounds like the social is much to see if that i see failure to us custody is that's what i mean. we've so easily issue and we can the east of the media almost then from let's hearing, let's finish the end. you see where there's no secret, the hello, i'm in. know a chan. you are tuned into modus operandi. it's no secret that the us is the number one manufacturer and supplier of arms all around the world. hasn't gone contracts spring and billions of dollars annually to continue brutal wars by allied nations. nobody that's an eye at these facts. but when the proliferation of these arms seep

into the black market, the us call that a problem. this we will examine the lords of war and black market arms. all right, let's get into the m o the what's the difference between the pentagon and a black market arms traffic or some lights say nothing really, given the end result is the same death and destruction. but they'll tell you that the former is done legally. and on the books that they are accounted for, and those arms are for noble wars or causes maybe just protection or deterrence. in fact, a more accurate comparison might be the c i a versus arms dealers. like say convicted and now freed dealer or victor boat. because when you really think about it,

given the c, i as long as sorted, ugly history of farming and surgeons within the countries. the us deans anatomy, america's top spike agency, is responsible for the proliferation of more off the books transfers of arms around the world than any one traffic or. let's be clear about something. i am not promoting illegal arms trafficking in any way, shape or form. but we can't pretend the black market arms dealers or mafia is or crime syndicates are the source of these arms. that dubious title belongs to the u . s. military industrial complex. who break in hundreds of billions of dollars, year after year, and a foreign policy of aggression, the benefits from continuing to r any and all conflicts around the world. now to discuss this complex web of arms trafficking will bring in someone who has seen just how all this stuff works. first hand dr. field dra raleigh is a retired c,

a case officer and executive director of the council for the national interest field. thank you for joining us. so 1st, according to a 2017 report by rand europe concerning how small arms proliferate into the u, it says the us appears to be the most common source country for arms that are for sale on the dark web. they say 60 percent of fire arms listings are associated with products that originated out of the us. are we to assume that the sales are by individual sellers or is there perhaps a criminal enterprise associated with some of these, such as like the mob or mafia is organized crime, things like that? well, i would say it's probably a combination of both. it's very easy to buy weapons in the united states in most states here in virginia, for example, if i wanted to go by

a military style. so called assault rifle, i could walk into town right now, and within 30 minutes have it. um yeah, these weapons of course can be to our military views. they can be taken and modified to fire or full automatic or by any goldsmith and they are readily available. there are more weapons of this type in the united states alone. then there are americans. so you can see we're talking about $300.00 plus 1000000 of these weapons floating around. and there are certainly organizations that are both criminal and that serve other purposes, political purposes, perhaps in some cases that have easy access to these weapons. and if you're talking about getting that men to your there are a lot of ways to get it takes us directly. most of the eastern european borders are somewhat porous. and also europe is surrounded by a lot of water. if you can get

a 1000000 and a half immigrants in smuggle into europe, you can certainly get us a webpage and into europe too. and that's what we're shape. and for obvious reasons, it's difficult to get concrete numbers on just how much money is brought through black market arm sales or the dark web. the latter is estimated to generate around a $100000.00 a month and just fire arms sales. but compared to the d o d sales numbers that are reported by the state department, those numbers are peanuts according to the state department, for military sales or approximately $55000000000.00 annually. along with the direct commercial sales under the bureau of political, military affairs, the directorate of defense trade controls, they approve approximately a $115000000000.00 a year in direct sales to for an allies and partners. we're talking heavy military

hardware like patriot missile batteries, javelin r, p g 's and so forth. now is the net result is the same. death and destruction. what's the difference between conflicts around the world being armed by traffickers or the d o d? well actually they're, they're a lot of subtle differences show we say the deal with the weapons. once interestingly enough, those numbers that you just provided. these are the known sales. these are sales that are approved by the us government and basically uh or done by the us government. and once these weapons are in the hands of the ukrainian, or the junction, uh, or any combination of, of the people these weapons could go anywhere. and this is the real danger that i think that what we're missing here is that there are

a lot of criminal sales or non ethical sales. how ethical i would describe as sales that are sold and sold to a foreign country sort of thing, or at least that's the justification. i don't know if you remember that, but it would rock and this was illegal to sell the weapons to doing this with the cartridge. but it was a c, r c, a officer on the ground, arranging for the flights that were going back and forth with the weapons in the money. and they are ready and leaders. and this was all done under orders for the national security council. at that time, so a lot of the stuff that uh, is, is credited to the see how you insure the c i it has the resources to do these things . but they do these things under orders of the national security council, which is indeed the right arm of the president. alright, build your all the is staying with us more of

a spill in just the 2nd coming up next finders keepers. what happens when the us a band and a war effort and leaves behind billions of dollars in military hardware and weapons? we'll discuss it when we return. sit tight, the m o will be right back. 2 the only way not to be around to see what it was around there. so sounds good. just so basically of course with me, your last name was easy to understand when we used to

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is of the me i've yet to meet chic, those pictures as a country. yes. please. and you'll depend on this clarity of some of the most the most out of special use of the things we took the little something please give the the welcome back to the m. o i, manila chan filled urology, a retired c i a case officer has gracious list of graciously stuck around to talk more about the proliferation of us arms around the world. so felt let's examine that hasty departure by the us military from afghanistan. we had an entire base, their complete with chin, not telecom afters, m raps transport vehicles, another very expensive, valuable military hardware. those are all now in the hands of the taliban,

who the us state department labels a tara group. now in similar instances when the us leaves a conflict, so in, or they say ends a war or military equipment, just sort of the spoils of war. and it's finders keepers mean what happens with all of that stuff. well, uh precisely is in the case of, of can understand if there is no kind of uh, withdrawal that we surely and save the equipment. it's just been a bad and the case worker, i understand they knew this was coming and they still didn't take steps to remove a lot of the equipment because they felt, hey, it was more expensive to remove it that believe it. and that is a kind of stupid judgment. but you know, that's what the decision restriction was into. they were confused about what was happening and where i would go. and so now the taliban have the weapons and the weapons probably all over the place that are going to,

well we will regard as terrorist or some of verse of groups and the sources of discharge with a weapon that could be accurate. because a lot of the weapons were in the hands of the half dan army, which was believed to be under control and monitored and so on and so forth. but that was a bit of affection. and so a lot of these uh, soldiers. uh, when do you united states less, they just kind of dropped their weapons where they were, they went home. so i would assume a lot of these weapons have already gotten into the hands of people who we would prefer not to have the switch. so it's a, it's, it's kind of a, a problem with us foreign policy in general that they can't, the, can't seem to figure out what's coming up next week. and this is a manifestation of, or, indeed war lords, proliferate. now presently, the us has been army ukraine to continue what many call a proxy war with russia to

a to well, north of a $100000000000.00 artillery shells, guns, mid range, missiles, air defense systems, and so on. this is all in the 1st year of conflict. now to contrast the u. s. spent around $83000000000.00 to train an arm. the now failed asked here and forces between the year 2001 till the fall of cobble in 2021. we had an inner poll your oregon stock said this to the guardian regarding the massive amount of arms now going into ukraine. he said, quote, we can expect an influx of weapons in europe and beyond. we should be alarmed, and we have to expect these weapons to be traffic not only to neighboring countries, but to other continents. what do you make of his remarks? well, it's an interesting comment, and i would refer you to the recent development center in ukraine where we had

the resignation of a senior spokesman of the landscape government. and we also had that uh, unfortunate helicopter crash. uh, there are sources that are saying right now that these people involved in this were all connected with stealing the weapons coming in and proliferating them. so this is going on already turning this into cache. and the suspicion is that one of them, or some of the went too far, and there is a bit of a tit for tat, going on in terms of the people who are involved with this process. so i think that's an interesting theory. and there is some evidence for it. and um, also, you know, we're talking about a ton of money either in, in the credits in cash and that sort of thing. and also with the weapons which are

fully functionable, you could sell them anywhere. you could get a good price for them anywhere. and, you know, this is the kind of thing that i, i believe the comment that you're quoting bear with saying, look, these weapons are going to, a lot of that, we're going to just cut loose. and once they're loose, the borders in eastern europe are permeable, and uh, once you get them out of your up, there are all kinds of people in asia, africa, latin america, quite willing to meet you halfway to do well. take them off your hatch. the problem is that once you sell a weapon or give a weapon or give it to a government or you give it to a group or you give it to an organization. so many different, this is, this is a used to joke about how oil and stuff like that are, are fungible commodities, well weapons refundable quantities to they have serial numbers and it's pretty obvious where they're made. but that doesn't mean that you know where that weapon

isn't any point, or who's using it. once it's out of your hands, it's a, it's free to go. weapons are fungible commodities, absolutely. now, according to slippery be stock home international peace research institute in 2020, they say the official global arms sales were valued at least at a $112000000000.00 in that year alone. date for many places like this, including official us numbers, it would appear. the us is responsible for arming much of the world. some uh, 40 percent of global arms sales comes from the d. o. d and distance 2nd place for russia coming in at about 27 percent of all the sales. is it then fair to say that the us is responsible for much of the bloodshed around the world, but the official sales also and up in black market traffic in the yeah, absolutely. i don't think there's a question about it. as i say, you can sell the,

you can sell a 1000 machine guns to a very reputable buyer, representing a government or something like that. but next week you don't know where those weapons are going to be. and, and, and the fact is, the united states has, by far the biggest military equipment industry or military industrial complex is generally referred to, which produces all this stuff. so it's no surprise that most of the weapons that are floating around in the world are american made. and i would, i would also add to the stock whole, a suggestion of, of, of the amount of money that is involved in this. i would say you should double that if you were to take it to the account, the black market, you might even want to triple and last fil. is there anything else you think our international viewers should know about the proliferation of arms, perhaps in their own country? well, i think the, the issue becomes one of the, uh,

let's not let the people know what we're doing. and i think that's a general rule of what goes on every every major western european country has an honest industry. and the purpose of an ours industry is to sell weapons. and in those countries, if you're a citizen of, of italy or france or germany or britain, you cannot bioweapon. and so all of this stuff is basically made to supply your own military and your own military. but on the other hand, the rest of this stuff is got to be sold to make this a commercially viable. so you have a new built hypocrisy. and in book contradiction right here, which is the fact that you know, the citizens, i'm sure if we're not allowed to have weapons, but these weapons are being produced by other countries to be sold to other people

elsewhere, who campbell hasn't been used. so this is a bit ridiculous. dr. phil geraldo retired c r, a case officer and executive director of the council for the national interest. thank you so much for sharing your insights. so as you can see, whether it's officials from government selling the arms or individual traffickers, there's a very fine line that separates the 2. but when your number one export is weapons of mass destruction, you become the raining lords of war that's going to do it for this weeks episode of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy. i'm your host manila. chad. thank you for tuning and we'll see you again next week to figure out the m o the

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