well, it looks you, this has been a little things and we're not, i'm just wondering, funds theater, the stuff the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk. what are all things are considered on peter level? what truly motivates nato isn't strategic interested in geo political positioning, or is it id ology in a pathological hatred of russia? i will let the viewers decide, but one thing is, certain. the alliance has put its very existence on the line. you can take that to the bank, the

processing nato's war. i'm joined by my guess, daniel mcadams, in lake jackson. he is the executive director of the wrong poll institute for peace and prosperity in orange county. we have craig prospect do likes to use an election integrity expert and co hosts of am. wake up and the convo couch and in perth ontario, we crossed to randy hiller, he is a former elected representative of the ontario legislature of 15 years. hard. tell me costs how cool is that effect? that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, daniel, i, i'm sure you came across the, the visit of the nato secretary general salton brought to camp 1st time since the complex started um and just banging the drums, what ukraine will become a member of the alliance. but he seems to be oblivious what has happened in the last 14 months or so, or what brought this conflict about in the 1st place? because as i said in my introduction, i mean either you talk geo politics or you talked idea all g c. he prefers the always to fall to i the all a g,

and that's why this conflict cannot be easily resolved because one side just thinking about geo political interest and another is on a, for lack of a better word, a whole more daniel, you know, peter, i got a little bit worried about stultz and berg the other day when he was there i've been some i thought he might have been turned by put in because he was adopting pollutants, talking points. if you heard him on the 20th, he said this where did not start last february, this war started in 2014, and nato has been arming and equipment ukraine since then. and training them for this war. it's a, literally what the president puts in said, or has been saying for quite some time. so i don't know if he's been target what's going on, but more seriously. you know, he's funny, admitting the truth, this is a, this is a holy war. that ne tone for lack of better terms. i mean, it's members, the us, the neo cons. the obama administration has wanted for years and years. nathan, preparing it for years and years. we know from a former chancellor uncle in merkel that they had no intention of following mints. they use it as

a way to strength and ukraine's army insulted brooks. i've been in care of you now . they're stronger than they were in 2014. that was the intent, it was a war of choice by nature, not by russia. well, me kind of get a bit into the, you know, we have such diverse information coming out right now. i don't know how much stop you put into these pentagon leaks. i really don't punch it and put much engine because i can't read them. why said, i believe the media when they lie to you about despite everything here. but then you have a lot of reporting coming out of political, another outlet that is very dubious up here. but the, by the administration seems to be hesitating on what a victory or what, who prevail and how ukraine will prevail. it's, it's very, very murky. now this all could be part of the, the game plan of just confusing people here, but you have stolen bird, you know, we owe you credit will become a member of nato. and then, you know, well, well maybe the ukrainian offensive will not start for another few months. i, me, i, it's intentionally modeled, i don't know, craig,

i don't know if it's necessarily intentionally modeled. i think there are some signs that are, were really pointing towards the end to this conflict. those leaks to me told me one thing specifically that, that is really signaling and, and that's the fact that the west has no confidence in ukraine. mounting any type of push or effort moving forward. in fact, some of the money is been a little bit less that they're sending over there right now, insulting bird going over their signaling nato. but the biggest thing for me, peter was samantha powers in key have a signaling to corporations. hey, that it's time to start getting in line and getting on in here. i think we're going to see an end to this conflict. i gotta see, the west start pivoting towards taiwan. that's my personal opinion because i think they do want to usher in this kind of 4th industrial revolution and turnkey had been to one of those tech no credit states. so everything we're seeing and my personal opinion is a signal just for that. yeah, well it's, that's really interesting. and, you know, of course, we are having a fire sale in, in ukraine now, solving off all of their assets,

something the west old russia to do in the 19 ninety's. we all know what happened there. again, you know, just squeezing every, every possible value out of the country, 100, buying and get a good job in the early years after the cool, randy, me, i find these things, you know, line up and invested in in ukraine. i think going to be o ukraine. this is a, this is in question right in the factory. we're seeing that it installed 3 and there's a lot of theatre going on right now for the pre emptive, the damage control. ringback in the whole ukraine war, or especially military operation, there's a, you know, this is added fundamental. a war and economic war by the beatles fear rated by the states and with full support of needle a little there is they need to keep their optics up. they need to keep their cedar

up. they need to keep people motivated and mobilize a well, the, the proxy war falters. you know, we're not sure what, it's gonna look like nobody by that doesn't care of anybody loses money. i mean they, they, the brakes are not a outs, flipping the g 7. okay. because it's on the ground. okay. and we already have the crazy paula seem to be well and tearing for it. okay. i mean, i'm very worried about this escalation because that basically, if nato is going to get what he wants, so i don't know what part of ukraine will become natal eventually if ever, i mean, that's the next step up and that's what makes it very, very dangerous daniel yeah, i think history record the sort of pivotal turning point, strangely enough, is when are sort of underlined, went to china to election the chinese about what the rest of policy should be. absolutely. promptly. and they promptly put her in the civilian line at the airport and forced her to i don't know, go through a pat down or something. i mean, that is the real. that is the reality. and that is

a lesson for stilton berg and whoever follows him. now let's not forget, he's soon to be gone. so all of his fears, rhetoric really is trying to add to his resume for his next job. but i think that's, that's the world. that's the new world. saying to the old word, i the, on the elected bureaucrats who think they actually are in charge of something your time is over. and i think the other point aside from ursula will be when stilton berg was in key of and he said to ukraine, your places in nato and how gary and pride, mr victor or bon retreated. it saying what, in the point, the point being who would like to do stilton berg, this is an alliance of member countries. you're, you're an employee of us. and i think that's a pivot point. nothing's oldenburg, doesn't realize that or recognize that nature is splintering. the page want to go for it, then go forward if they have a fantasy about resurrecting some 16 since 15th 17th century. kingdom code for i think germany is splitting the east is turning away from the greens in

a big way. you're seeing a lot of changes that i think happening is going to be a real wake up call quote. you know, great, i'm glad that daniel mentioned this here because it's more and more obvious, you know, with, with facebook censoring, seymour hersh are partially so, mean, this is an elite the project this, this complex has always been in the lead project. you know, how many, how many demonstrations you say where people are marching for ukraine. i mean, they might march against russia, but you know, this isn't a lead agenda, but some there war and they're not feeling the consequences. the rest of us do, craig? yeah, i just, you know, peter, i get it and but i just so yes, i feel that everything has changed since the coven 19 pandemic. and so many things have been ushered in. i mean, we all have to remember that despite all the differences between nato and, and the russians, and the chinese and the bricks, countries that all of them of agreed to sign onto digital digital passports at the, at the g 20. so there is some type of tech no credit, bond absorption. i do honestly believe that you have is going to splinter off and

split off. i think the russians will accept some sort of ceasefire. they seem to be the most level headed here anyways, and they'll be fine taking on the don boss and cried me a and then cube will eventually become one of those months santo, nestle, digital countries. and i, that's why i think that so many things are change that this isn't just the regular conventional warfare. this is something new because for me personally, i don't think the, the americans could be that stupid and just constantly throwing money at a situation. and just just deal with any type of results that come up. i think there's an ultimate plan behind the scenes that a lot of us don't know about. we're waiting to see, and we're seeing a lot of signals of that. well, i don't know because they did it for over 20 years in afghanistan. okay. i mean, i looked at, i look into your, your point about this next stage, evolutionary stage. i technology i think is really important here. but randi, all these things are a gripped ok. i mean that with me there's even been, even reports that over $400000000.00 in diesel fuel that had been stolen by the zalinski became, you know, what's brandy?

they did that in the data and somebody figured this product out and they've just said smart of it to ukraine, go ahead. randy as well. this is the, the ukraine has been non functional for some time. it's been corrupt for a long time. there's, you know, going back to you earlier point to, you know, need hold in the americans. we don't have the stomach for to put boots on the ground. we prefer it out to do our more economically or the americans do. and they just don't have the stomach to put boots on the ground anymore. they're willing to the sacrifice you great, great insight. and if the pools want to jump in as well, that they're happy with that. but there is not going to be much left. i think at the end of the day, you cray, it for all intents and purposes will be back to is what it really is in

geographical area, something like value grain or that canadian for i had, i know also that i wouldn't point out the, it's fast we'd be coming if it hasn't already become a failed state it without western funding. it is a failed. say, gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here and we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on nato's war and ukraine. stay with our team,

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do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department, the c i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't mind. we're going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you the welcome, ect. across stock were all things are considered on peter roosevelt's remind you. we're discussing nato's war. the daniel, let me go back to you in late jackson. well, one of the most important things that have happened during the course of this conflict is that the us has been able to call completely the europeans. okay. and are you are p in union? obviously, nato here,

and it's really interesting if you look in germany, germany is probably change the most because, you know, we had new york or europe and old europe will. germany is joined the new europe. okay. under the auspices of the greens, it's really quite remarkable. and that is the fundamental change here is because it, even when this complex comes to an end, it'd be the, the nightmare that washington is always had about the special relationship between russia and germany. that's over because the energy relationship is over. daniel. a . yeah, it's completely been severed. i ever try to reconcile ably with a couple of, uh, with that. what was that boat called, you know, and a couple of, uh, sailors went out and blew up the uh, the pipes point. oh yeah, it was the as it was, the ss me know it was gilligan's island. yeah. thats but those guys that yeah, but yeah, i mean it's going to be a bad angle for germans and for germany when they wake up and realize, you know, they blew it all in a slot machine and vegas you know, the entire economy,

the powerhouse of europe is gone and it's interesting that use the word new europe . uh you know what, i think the new europe is being led by hungry to be quite honest because they all die and i love, i go yeah, i agree with you. but yeah, you're obviously citing and for very different reasons, but i think that is the new way of a new way that won't quotes but somehow prevail in your i'm sorry to interrupt, keep going down. you know, know, you're obviously right because it's a loaded term and i mean, it's just in the purest sense, the new europe is a europe that comes to terms with its relationship with russia now for who is historic reasons hungry is not pro russia. it's not as rabbits, the anti rush as poland has been, but they've had some problems in history with russia, but they've had to learn how to deal with both sides and other rushes, rebuilding the nuclear power plants and hungry. very important for energy agrees, buying oil, it's not signing on with russia. it's trying to find a way between the 2. i think that's the future, and i think the next domino default may be france, but i think more likely may be germany. you're going to see the green's fall,

the part you going to see the coalition fall apart. i'm not an expert on german politics, but just looking at the polls, there's going to be a shift and it has to come from there. think about, think about what a blow is going to be to germany when they wake up and realize that they're essentially a 3rd world country. okay. yeah, but you're absolutely right in craig, you've already brought it up, you know, and i, i tried not to force the issue, but i mean the coven, and i'm not talking about the, the, the virus i'm talking about, of state craft in, in controlling populations here. as i said in the 1st part of the program, this is an elite agenda and told me it was an elite agenda as well. okay. and i really worry about coersion censorship. all of these things that we knew was it was a, a, a dry run with coby is not, can be used for anything. it's being used for ukraine now. craig. yeah. and it's going to be used even more dramatically or drastically. we should say, when the cdc's kick in the central bank, digital currencies, and it seems to be

a big push for that. i mean, at the end of the day, that's what i thought this whole conflict was always about. i couldn't understand why, you know, the united states would, you know, push up a proxy war against the russians and then also try to sell this, the american public that ukraine could win. that's at the end of the day, me, it's about regime change in russia. was never about regime change in russia. i think we're starting to see what it was really about. and yes, these are things that are the, make us quite nervous because the control mechanism is there. and it seems that even though we've had this crazy proxy word, go on, a lot of these leads have been able to consolidate their power through major corporate corporations and technology grabbing ahold of everything. well, you know, there's that, i think is part of it here. but randy, i think when you look at the, the, the imbeciles that are running american foreign policies and their lackeys in, in, in brussels here. really the, in their approach is, you know, this is our last chance. you know, the brakes are coming up. time is coming up after because ignoring expenses are big . last chance,

we'll finish off the roof skis and then take on the chinese. i think that that's really embedded there. if you look at the crew that's running the shop now, they were in the obama administration. remember the cool of 2014 for them. this is just unfinished business. randy, i think do the reason unfinished business. i think it is connected with the, with coal with and c, b c's. and then there's a number of elements to what i would say, obviously uh, the check engine by taking google got more brain power than the people reading the show. we in washington. absolutely. a, anybody could of seeing how to avoid this if there was, had been any desire to avoid it, but you know, the american for the americans. this is an economic battles in my opinion, but i think for what i see here from the russians, this is also a 80 soulfully called full war. absolutely. yeah. yeah. so that's the way that it

is not. you know, their way in life they, they're still believed in the extracting resources in actually building producing products using the energy, which is all the ideas that go to, to what we are doing in the west. what we're promoting in the west and everything from family values raising richard contractions. this is a whole tool war for russia and, and the economic domination by this stage. and then there's all these other elements shown in there that are contributing factors such as coal with the authoritarian measures adopted by the west in the progression to the digital ideas and the c b, the scenes. it's randy, i am so glad you brought that up cuz i don't like to sound like a broken record, but i'm going to go to daniel, i'm going to sound like i'm pretty good factor that. um and this is a good, a cultural social conflict as well. because russia, it presents itself as

a unique model for its own people. it doesn't want to export it. it just, you know, this is what we do here, but it is. so it is alternative, you know, hum, gary. and so, you know, that's a conservative country. we have a lot in common with them. we have shared values with this is something that we have, you know, the walk stairs in the west. no, you can to, this is an operation. we must destroy it. see the way the west and phrases, everything, frames, everything is everything is x essential. it's be or not to be. what was the world got along for a long time? not thinking that way, daniel. and i think the russians very well recognize the moral implosion of the united states. you know, united states our values, at least those that are presented to us by the least seem to be our ability to castrate young boys into raising or the next generation of unix into also to create a female shooters who believes are meant to kill people or they see the moral implosion they see are media, they see a popular culture imploding in the us. i think they recognize in

a way it's for themselves. and this is a uh, in ideological world war for survival. but, you know, i do say that the, the empire, the us empire is failing and it will fail. but you know, this is when it's in its most dangerous phase. now there's a little peter, and i'm sure you've reported on this already, but the united states arrested for african americans who happen to be black, national, a socialist, because they simply said, they agree with russia and they don't like us policy on ukraine. they pick them because they're low hanging fruit, they don't have a lot of money or power, but it's to warn the rest of us. that means you peter and myself, that anything you say anywhere, if it doesn't go along with the bonded ministrations position, you can face 10 years in prison. it's a chilling chilling thought, especially for me sitting here in the united states. yeah. well, you know, you guys are heroes. okay. i don't have to worry about it physically, but every time i go on to on the twitter, i get death threats, you know. but you know, if you know, it's because of my views. oh, but that's okay. okay. it the, the double standards of hypocrisy is so calling and very, very disturbing. craig,

i mean, also, you know, with this is that you, you likely bring up the technological part of it and, and there's a financial part of it here. i have to, to. 2 you and this really surprises people, but i hope the sanction stay forever because i want russia to get away from the toxic west. if it's the finance it's culture get away from it. okay. because there's, there's nothing good coming from there. they learned a lot of less than $102008.00. and because of that they've been able to fair pretty well since then. go ahead in orange county. well, i mean i, i can see why you would want to say that, you know, but at the end of the day we keep on looking for the trap doors here. you know, at the, at the end of the day whether it be rush or whether it be china, whether it be the west, everybody seems to be moving towards that technocratic kind of change where they want more control, you know, see the caesar a thing that's coming into the you know, the digital you want has been yeah. introduce. so even though we can see this is a battle versus, you know, your raise your versus oceana. what is the trap door we're waiting on. we're

talking about you, i must go over here a lot, you know, on twitter, the way he seems to be trolling a lot of the fight in the ministration people and all the hall toward the warriors of swords. but where does he come from? you know, he was a defense contractor, you know, he had to customize the darpa. so i think a lot of us are so even though we can see this kind of moving in a certain direction, we're starting to wonder what is behind those trap doors. and even though we might like the separation between the east and the west, what is really waiting for us on the other side? that's the question. yeah. i but yeah, you know, it's a we, we talk about globalization that's, you know, but for our entire generation that was a big of a tag word for everyone. but i think that the globalization is, we've understood it is come to an end. you'll never going to be separate, go globalization, maybe with the same trap doors that you're saying night and i'm not going to disagree and you obviously know more about it than i do. but randy, there is a real separation going on. the there's, there's the attempt to isolate russia and at the end desires to late in the west.

that's what we've learned from this randy certainly, but we all know we've known cities the early times. the sanctions can only harm the one who plays in the safe. and that's uh, you know, now it was a to get away with that. when the american dollar was a question, really the only a common reserved china brooks house have put a nail in the coffin, pretty solidly and you know, but what we can see, you know, when i was a young man, we always knew who was the good guys and the bad guys or going not. and what i would say is that the, and we've seen this with the twitter file, how the american military has been infiltrating media. social media beat almost has done a great job of revealing this. we americans to west kind of,

we have continued to portray russia as the old ussr, but we have adopted the practices and policies of the former ussr and, and now still say that we are the good guys. we're, we're involved heavily in censorship. we're at region both economic and military, we're against others. we are the stabilizing countries around the world, and it's not going to end well for us. um and you know, so you might say, i think worship might want to allow this ages to continue and keep away from the west for until we figure out what we want to be. well that's, i think that in, in this case it will be new to all. it could be generations, gentleman generations, it's all the time we have a want to thank my guessing, like jackson,

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