church translates roughly to something like cold out from the world, forgot it. controversial debates occurring across the globe today regarding gay marriage transgender rights. reparations, and abortion are causing a major divisions within the church. faithful. these debates are not only occurring within the pews, but the leadership also cannot find the unified stance on these issues. his putting the future of the church all in jeopardy. however, religion is a major influence on the culture of the country as well as its absence. and why some say the split could have more than just the spiritual ramifications. now one member of the clergy who has not been afraid to voice his concerns as to where the church is going is begin at calvin robinson. now calvin is the deacon and the anglican church, and a g, b, and presenter for a show called common sense crusade. welcome calvin talbot, do you think christianity is the religion of the west anymore? and if not, what is materialism?

woke isn't uh, that's if there is a religion of the west of christianity, especially shapes the west and the west is built on christian, princeton. ready is less than civilization is the result of christendom. but we all host christianity. now, where do we live in a pros post of truth? well, if there is a religion of the west, it probably as low to this, but i'm say work, this is more of a 9 to religion. it's a set of value. ready that are ever shifting, ever changing is not something you can subscribe to. because if you join today with the same tomorrow, so i actually, i'm not, not too sure. and i want to be honest with you. now at the same time, we're seeing this disappearance of christianity from the public space. so i can a, would we also see a rise in the number of mazda migrants to places like england or europe. is this going to lead to a clash within those societies or fundamental change and the way they operate? very good question. yes, of course. it is. uh, nature abhors a vacuum. right?

but as christianity has stepped aside from the public square, as the predominant religion in england in particular, christianity is now a minority. faith is law, me stepping up to fill the gap. so it is not just because of my some regression, but of course that contributes most of you to it. but as long as going, because of both rates of christians just hold on having children, the words people don't have any children because in the average and well, the answer religion is bad to have children because back to the environments, partly the so christians on the work lot on having kids, but most times all. so is a simple case of that out reading us, which means the some point in the future, probably the near future is law more because of the predominant face of england. and i suspect that would be a similar situation in many other countries around the west, which will lead to the question of what does that mean? which sets of values all the values that the country that has to buy, for example,

which values have. ready been christian values been all that richard is no longer a christian country of u. k. as in the christian country, people don't know what british values arguable as, as long grows and grows. and yeah, sure, yeah, pools pop up left, right, of the center move. i mean that pretty strong. ready to come islamic values all the other way around. how go happen state the christian values, all rooted industries. and we think it doesn't. you see, i don't think as long as the same because it's is obviously a christian heresy. there's probably quite dangerous to rich countries values around as long, and if you look around, well, this is predominantly as i'm a country. so we can see that actually they're not the best places to live. so i wouldn't want my country to take on both those values, but it's not to me, it's up to the majority of. ready majority of people no longer want to be christian and the majority of people and their loved ones have children, then we're left with whatever's left over now and the okay. we've seen that people

jailed for things like praying silently outside of abortion facilities or for public preaching against homosexuality. are the u. k. and parts of the west became a anti christian. and alongside of that is the debate on a gender neutral god and possible reparations for slavery. these are also issues being debated outside of the church. will there be this ripple effect in society by the charges decision? and does this reveal the level of power of the modern church? absolutely. we'll see that must have increase and christopher, it'd be a people and tolerance of christians and to the christian faith in a way that then look for other people in other sites. you know, any other face is to be set up right. that i think it comes from actually quite a racist place that this 1st is a patronized thing. assumption that i think for him is exotic to be held on a pedestal. whereas anything, all road is to be generated and it looks down upon and that's what we're saying with christianity. and it's getting to the point where. ready is and told her that stuff is not quite persecution, but we're reaching that point,

as you quite rightly pointed out. the questions of being arrested in this country for praying silently either wrote heads that something i would expect to see in the middle east. i would not expect to see it in a. ready so called liberal, progressive west and democracy and then all we even level where we were certainly progressive. but emotional, that's a good thing. yes. a christians all being a pest usage, starting to be persecuted to the point to be arrested, but also just mentioning anything to do with christ in the public square. we'll get you off to size and we'll get you cost aside. and we have to also question why, why did they didn't want? no christians pray, why didn't and it won't crushes speaking about price is because i would say is because they know the truth. they know that there is power and not what in the name of christ. they know that he's the truth the way the life and they are afraid of that. and they won't take know that they want to deny that because they want to chase their own personal selfish ambitions and,

and their involve views which are talented to thoughts. but. ready no deep in the hawks that they're on the wrong path. recently the anglican church had come to a fork in the road like so many other protestant denominations. what is this main reason and is this divisiveness with in the church allowing the persecution from the outside? yeah, the churches split between christians and non christians. of so many, many people in the church, especially the higher up you go. this becomes the case of who all establishments essentially, especially the church from them. they all liberal progressive will work. but you know, metric lives in liberal elite to types who have a such a wealthy. ready isn't actually in line with the christian well to you, but that okay, because they want to be seen as nice people on the fence a life of address because to be good means following the bible. and that's difficult, especially in, in the muslim context. so they want to be seen as nice by the people around them in

the world. so that being that living in the world and also all the world. and as we know the bible tells us was supposed to be in the world, but not comfortable. so what's happening here is that people. ready in the actual loans are chasing societal norms and trying to drug the church along with them to be progressive. and i struggle with that because that's not the way cool to do. we call to decide for the nations i called to live a life in christ a as he demonstrates to us. and if we're not doing that, how can we called ourselves christians really know the same time as christianity is diminishing the west. we see a massive rise in the christian population and conversations and places like africa . what is behind this disparity between the 2 regions? was quite simple. the disparity between the african continent and western europe is the in, in western europe. well might have just left here in west the charges. so think

that in scotland where. ready in the usa, canada, australia, numbers of people, the guys charge are plummeting, and that's directly correlated with the charges approach to christian teaching, as in the church is no longer teaching wants and the violence teaching, watson society is teaching the culture and, and we look to places like africa and in southeast asia where they are preaching the gospel and the charge is good. it's a direct correlation. all you have to do is teach the truth as christ gave it to us as a revealed it to us. and the church read this as a result and the many stop doing that and stop teaching the culture instead. this josh dies and shrivels. why? it seems obvious of i suppose because it is. i don't know why the west in charge is of looking towards africa or these the well i think what we need to see is going to of the british empire, for example,

set missionaries around the world since the christian faith around the wills, in the tradition of i only say i can recognize them, right? so what we need to see now is within this form or i'll come back to the united kingdom. i define july's when you've missionaries from africa, from india has come over to england. i did re evangelize us now are you saying the church i'm quoting and what does this mean for the future? yeah. ready all of these issues of a massive issues. so also tell them briefly, but reparations, for example, which has been set aside 100000000 was a 100000000000. i remember now seems to be the new address number to give away a 100000000 to give her out as reparations for the one court, reparations, and some of these people, but happy and effective by the transatlantic slate right now. the live today owned slaves and the trends atlantics. i tried to know a live today. it was a flight in the trans atlantic frederick. so i'm not sure what i mean by

a giving this money to communities, the i being affected by the transatlantic matrix. but what it is, it's more virtuous signaling is. ready appearing nice walden during good, if the judge has that kind of money to be throwing around, it should be throw partials, we have 70 parishes, orthodontist country and we live in a parochial system. but cannot afford to live cut off what suffice. churches are closing an increase, so looking off to $1450.00 injections, which isn't completely on sustainable, entirely unrealistic of what was saying is that the, another read, that's another reason the churches diving in the country. so if the judge has money, it should be getting the likewise, all of these other issues. if i'm trying to stand, which isn't the thing in the christian faith, he didn't go with me, does male and female he made those in his image is quite simple as in genesis right at the beginning so that the church was take no doctrine again, then it's gonna solve the consequences that like why it's a gay marriage, the business thing as gay marriage,

that some of the more marriage is heterosexual and middle class. i mean in a liberal progress society, people can do whatever they. ready want sure, because march, at least on a christian context, it just doesn't exist, not to say that you know, in the secular world you can get married and in this country there is such a thing. i've said since march and 2nd of all, but he confident that into the church and what the church is, the lowest set that will actually come. and now the church of england is there to bless. same sex couples within the secular marriages, which is almost like saying it contends them or adults as them. and they're often caught to bless something that he has identified as soon it's a god called bless, think up doesn't bless him. go tells us to move away from sense of the charges directly heading towards su, which is even worse than dragging us into a costa scene with the risk of teaching is driving people to how you're digging robinson to stick around. because after the break,

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taste and look, i do most schools do. if you look on the initial, do 1 o'clock, significantly post on zillow, while it be almost getting used to the new ones who do origin buddy office, the was done. the news for a government belief systems to good. who do what i see these the buses, the little cute little dyson says, do some uh, tutorials on both of the welcome back. today we're talking about the struggles and the modern christian church. we are joined by our guests. begin at calvin robinson. welcome back. deacon robinson, you know, calvin, why are we not seeing the same debate happening in other major religions like is um, buddhism and hinduism. yeah, this. i mean, the mohammedans,

stick to the face as it is pretty much most of the time. same as most other face, you know, they say this is all sight, this won't believe and west is good. okay. then when they criticize all or attempt to change the oil space because it's the if as well, the offensive and it's not going to be offensive to for it has to be offensive to your own people, thus thus far, which again is why christianity isn't easy, taught it because it's seen is all religion. therefore they can look at it as a well. ready as we use are also the date. now we're going to court as to what we carter believe as a secular society. therefore, you need to change that he would never and a 1000000 is say, that's a to a 100. and because that will be seen as well. i suppose racist, obviously as long as it writes, but you get where i'm coming from is this is in the mentality. this is how they see things. we should be having this conversation. we should be saying that eva, all of these regions have to take on both ways. ok, marge, all religions get to stick to their own values and their own beliefs and their own teachings called say that christianity has to change to it up to the times that

everything else can say the same. that's not right. so that's not just, you know, christianity once again is the most persecuted religion in the world. and this has been a trend for many years. what has the church done to stop the genocide of their own? and why not anything less the $1000000.00 question? christianity is the best past due to religion the world, and we look around the world, the places where it is past due to ends. again, it comes back to predominantly islamic countries past due christians horribly. but also, you know, hostile states like china and pretty much everywhere around the world. it isn't a christian country. cushions of the church has become weak ties and the show as well. why is there almost a media and political silence in regards to the global targeting of christians? when you often see this outraged violence targeted at other religions? yeah, we have a to to mentality of. everyone else is to be held up in esteem. and christians

ought to be done a great ends us. it seems to be acceptable. now, even even the pub himself has not really made a strong effort to fix the situation in china and his having to commit to china. ready all thirties, we need i'm going to get a big, it's called virtual call, but i'm not trying to get into it. but we need just need us to, to, to stand up for the face at home and abroad when he is the companions. and i'm going to say, viruses pretty well met of a woman. we need the catholic church to start off. as a consequence around the world of investigative, this is not okay. you must stop this or you can do something about it. that's most of your career sites. are gonna say, come you, that's not gonna happen, but, you know, maybe we need to do something. so what has been a, your response from your colleagues for outspoken comments regarding the church, and there are controversial stances. some appears have been wonderful,

very support. ready lots of people reaching out say thank you saying what else they . ready and all of that sort of stuff, which is great. it really is as nice as much more people stand up and speak out. i get the debates of the union recently. i guess 3 bishops, a funeral to try to drive the charge into a policy i guess just myself and talk to you and pull his great deal. ready but neither of us or, you know, in any foldable stars in the church, as it had turned out to be of a debate, that was 6 people against us too because the 2 people are outside of the fighting for organ. ready or the proposition instead of the opposition because people are so tell me i thought it often people have become comfortable, especially when christians have become comfortable in the church. christians expect to be lots of we expected to die for our face. and today we have a so comfortable just look at what happened and demick,

how quick people watch close the church, those because that's what the authorities with him to do. the government still thirty's in the church, at least over here in the u. k. you know that the government says a lot of central services have to close and the church that will close to install it, archie or whatever. whether that's ridiculous reason, but price just that. no, they should have it. i know that my charge is open to the faithful masses. we have, we have fear of god's affairs because it will all rituals, all the sacraments of, of holy communion. the eucharist is how we demonstrate all faith, not mosques, not vaccines, more tests, all these new rituals that they go to. the face sort of said, i'm going to go around looking on those. if someone sick, i'm going to take them groceries all the pretty sure said, i'm going to hold mass as i normally do. if people start off from us,

they can and should, because that's when the closest christ and the lot people did it up to the federal prison due to that. but that shouldn't be uniform. not one priest should have close the church. those of the list to the faithful must as well as themselves. the judgment of, i'll be honest, as you can go as a patient guarantee of judge mason's thoughts as to check for a pass, be called pray, feel. ready and this was a bad time because evil, that's all that is so many policemen called price for the river. ready is what we have to cure souls in a hurricane system, but something different all going on there. the priest sort of sit up and said no arrest me killing me to what you need to me. but i am not going to stop doing one whole to do for god. what is the status of a religious freedom around the globe? i'm not sure what people believe in religious freedom as they used to just look at america, it was set up as a christian country, no heat. well, it wasn't a country to state, so the states was set up as christian states explicitly. so this was an estimate

statements as they founded each states. and now it will just look that american fixed. yeah, i think of separation of church and state as a secular country. is that okay? so already they've, they've lost that christian element a to some degree. but not necessarily the people, but the infrastructure itself. and we're seeing the other here to where we all the christian country in the well headed stages, the head of the church. and we have bishops in a house of laws. but even here, christianity is no longer in a majority and we'll see you must have shift away from it. so what, what mean? well, in the u. k, i have no idea that around the rest of the world, it tells it tends to mean that's without a predominant face. a, we're gonna, we're going to see a mess. we're going to see a lot of values, a like a religion like a belief. and the whole purpose of america being set up as christian country was

that this is what. ready built in the country on and being a christian country means that you have that religious freedom to be a christian, all not a christian. and the same in england. the whole purpose of us being a christian country with bishops and a house of laws with the queen. while the king, as the head of the church, means that because we are christian country, people have the freedom to wash it or not to worship the freedom to be christians or not to the questions. and the moment you, you lose the default option a be the christian we get into that mess of. so what all. ready and who always a who's going to defend registration? because the, the work model, the little progressive, the metric listening to the core of what you want. because they don't have that faith to go see the importance of faithful. they're not defending faith. this is why support of the christians to run these countries because we recognize the importance of faith. so we defend what will defend a muslim him to a seat in the faith, much stronger than someone who is against faith,

because they see faith those backwards. so what is the best way to destroy the christian church? pressure from the outside or internally with divisive social issues? yeah, there's, there's 2 sides to that. so this is the marxist, which is what we're actually talking about in using lots of was what the progressive metropolitan liberal lead them boxes. so that's what we're talking about really trigger and your best. but i've talked about this decades ago that the, the front 1st school sets up with decided geology of multis them and says, how do we destroy the west a way of live so we can rebuild it in all right, mh, how to be introduced socialism and communism to the west, we break down the west of way of life by destroying the family and destroying the christian faith. the west is built all christianity. christianity is built on the family and both of them make up the west. they make up all logs and i've always in a culture get rid of the size to get rid of somebody so, so they've done that. the faith is almost died in the west,

and the families almost died in the west. no, somebody is a mother and father both children, whether it's boys. ready girls need a strong male role or. ready to the cop to if you a boy is shows you how to become a mind and how to, how to treat a woman. if you're, if you're a girl, it shows you how soon, what you should look for in a future husband. unlike was for a mother, i'm a 10, no nurturing, natural motherly instincts isn't the same as the father. and if one does this, and we can rely and pretend to both men and women at the same, but we know that different nothing and equally and equally valued under it and go sized. but i think that different. so the better women are full of mother and mothers and faults are important. and now we've reached the point to society and why we're actually saves this much, the hetcher. no, but timothy as if that's a good thing as having a mother and father is somehow back now and we need to promote the idea of having to foster the 2 mothers of each one of each. 0, one of the, the brother and

a small part of it, the cultural side, the secular side of breaking down a way of life from oxygen. but the other side is of course the dental and the. busy so you get to, to price the higher up, he gets into charge all the more of the clean. ready or the bigger your platform or the broader you'll reach, the more the devil's going to come to you. so of course the devil's been infiltration the church since day one, of course he has because he wants to undermine it. and of course everything we do, he's the trying to undermine what we're doing every time to try to preach the gospel he's, you know, tried to twist the truth and that's what he does. he uses hoff truths to promote the lie. and we're seeing that while again, with the transmission yeah, mind can become a one another one of these things, all rooted in health truths. and that's that, that's the easiest way to show the light on people stripes. and of course, so that's why the devil has been tried to destroy the chest. the devil can never destroyed adjust the charges, christ body,

and the church big see will always survive and cry. so make sure, but it doesn't mean the churches compet destroyed a churches comp time, whether away and i think that's what was said right now with the western church. thank you so much, dick and cabinet robinson for being on our program today. well, i'm sky now. here's, and this has been your 360 view. thanks for watching the the,

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