like there's nothing in serbia, we've never had a mass shooting school shooting of this or so. uh, you know, lots of things are happening uh, just couple of days ago. we had a big right up in your time as you know, directly attacking the president of serbia and of course immense pressure on the syrian government and both sanctions on russia to distance itself. from russia and china and to recognize its own province of coastal, which is under and made to occupation and to turn toward the west. while public opinion is vastly in favor of russia was strong, especially american mass media, how rich they were social media. and they have a very negative influence, especially in young people. and it's like a cancer is metastasize, him all over the world of bad people in serbia. so imagining for the past 2 days,

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here, the to learn more about the philosophy of the circus and the roles that they live by. we're going to speak to maxine the coolant. these are the director of the machine and thanks for taking the time to meet with us today. it's been impressive of seeing what you do here at the circus. so i have to ask, is the circus more entertainment, or is it an art form in of itself? uh, give me their permission to disclose to me i see it as an art form for sure. so the same holds true for everyone who works or is involved in the circus, or will know if it's a mystery to me why people consider the circus a form of entertainment and go. so i don't think that's fair. what historically, that's been the attitude towards this age. this was, it was, there's no doubt in my mind however, that it's an art form one which can easily compare with the performances at the

bolshoi over in ski theaters, furthest, scala, opera house in milan is where the beijing circuit is. these things are considered. this was how long this film existed as an art form spoken. and what about the circus school? i think that answers your question. what does it personally? so you just mentioned film a 2nd though, which is a type of technology. um, which makes me ask, has technology changed how the circus operates and if so, how so? oh yeah, according go off. as with any card form, there has to be a balance of what we use. we want new technologies and new tools and new techniques to enhance with circuits experience and we have to like not replacing this. are you sometimes behind all the sets and props are scenes and equipment, soft lights and sounds so you can lose sight of the surface itself and all of the performers and their arch it and see if the performers are at the heart and soul of any circus let me slip so that's why i'm not a big fan of say the circus. so they like to me,

it feels like they're impersonating a real circus. and the a lot you could argue that it's a circus like show. it's not the real deal. remember not in the classical sense, it was and you said to me, which the circus. so it's one of the oldest in russia, and it's also now named after using the cooling your father, which makes you part of the dynasty. talk to me more about what that means and why are there so many circus dynasties in the business? so this is very so it's, so that depends that arguments. if you compare modern circuits with the 19 sixty's, who used to be a whole lot of different facts that are available to people who are born into the circus, for, as we like to say, born and sought, does brother this work? do they hardly ever had a chance to make anything else of their lives was against you? if you would see a boy or a girl learn to walk on their hands before actually walking, you know before and you know, immediately what their life was going to look like. what's on the family's was moved from place to place, always on the road just to go to

a meeting. there was no proper school education or warner. so these young men and women would stay in the circus, i think, and that was their whole life. and he's just no trouble nowadays are a lot more opportunities in my young performers are already gearing themselves up for their future life outside the circus. what they prepare themselves for the reality that the professional life of an acrobat, a gymnast, or an harry list, which is rather short in the work for 35 years or so. and then you retire. i wish to not only that, but you often retire with a disability remo, associated to our meniscus only for ruptures. achilles tendon, it gives you a lot of damage to find the show. that's the price you pay what you want to sleep. she want to do this, i still don't get why people choose that sort of like the, i'm not a performer myself, so upset. so it's all very confusing to me personally. well, so i can understand what drives the person to read. matter of the pay was afraid, you need to risk their lives several times a day every day because the they climb, they fall, they break their bodies and he doesn't play your things and doctors put them back

together. but just as soon as they've recovered, they go back, but that's how circus performers are. so one thing about the circus, this is often associated with force or before me. i don't want to say negative connotation, but there is an idea about the surface. is there any truth behind that or is there more to it? it may have to may have those of this notion bothers me a lot due to it and you're calling someone a clown used to be an insult. that's a start. okay. so when my mother told her parents, she didn't, i did for a former and wanted to introduce him to the family. they said to her forehead, which theater does he perform? work was? she said he was a circus clown just but despite her mother was so shocked she fainted. hello! turned out for the last time sheets. either clown was before the revolution at a circus showing serrato and the clown was drunk with red hair as well, and kept taller. and yeah, so it was time to change you because everything changes in life varies. and with

some of these outdated perceptions and obsolete attitudes, unfortunately persistence, though it's just like it's still part of the language to stop clowning around, that cetera. so there's a new scenario. it really is a problem for us as showing there. because when you start explaining this to people who, because of their busy lives, haven't been to the circus in a long time. they go to started, we had no idea what the surfaces actually like today, or they thought it was the same as when they were kids. but it really has changed to all things change. so we're living in a different world now was this is the surface of the other planet for you. and what i mean by that is i've heard you say that children have to grow up fast here. people take care of each other, um, talk to me a little bit more about that culture for you. uh, what is your point. there was an amazing friend circus promoter. you know, the friend of mine pharaoh be done so that we can proceed with the any, said fleming. i wanted to make people understand that we live on 2 planets. a sort

of one is the normal planet for people. you know, i don't, and the other is our own little circus search, the traditional and the big planet. there's all kinds of crazy stuff happening all the time. the wars went, murders, cheating, floods, well, earthquakes, and armies. people die there. you know, the, the head on the small surface planet use. there's none of that right now. this is not romanticize. the circus is the scene. that's just how it is doing the circus. you can have conflicts based on the city, your nationality. there's only one nationality here. still some of the performers. so all that matters is what you're worth as a performer, which you won't be judge by the color of your skin or your religion. the only god. here's the read us here with us and you read is the god you pray to progress through the new reading your left or in a circus. you will hardly ever see a drug addict or, and alcohol or towards that lifestyle is simply incompatible with the profession. whether you know, cuz you won't be able to work with you and that's it. just one of the relationships

between people are different here. when you grow up in the circus environment, the circus becomes part of your life. and you have to follow certain unwritten rules. so those rules that have emerge spontaneously naturally, and one of those left which to me and then there's honesty. there's no lips thinking, no special effects, and no 3 d graphically assistance you can't say tightrope, walking or doing somersaults in the air. if everything is real, real world, everything is in plain sight, but the reality of it all is palpable. suggesting certainly you can feel the performer giving is all in front of you to doing it for you that's giving up everything go to the way we lacked that sense of honesty in everyday life, which is very little of is lo. she is just like with love loyalty and other things that are always in short supply. you can see perfect. thank you for the taking the time. it's been incredible a pleasure talking to you an interesting conversation. you're welcome. no problem

for me. the i thank you very much for taking the time to show us what you do. it's incredibly interesting. every single show, every single practice. you're putting your life on the line. it's dangerous. um, what's in it for you as the artist? put something last night and what we do is more like a life style is something we do all the time. say it's not a hobby. so if it's both a job and a lifestyle, what i've been doing this since my early childhood, which i was born into a circus family. my dad was involved when i was still a child and i knew what i wanted to do when i grew up of the most. and so it was

more than worth it though because it was a way of life and, and not show. so there's a sense of danger and what you do, we know that you put your life on the line. what is, what's in it for the audience? what does the audience get? is it a sense of adrenalin that keeps them coming to watch a show? and the way it was me, typically people come to the circus to see danger and tricks. our job is to give them emotions as a transition, feel satisfied, and emotional level adrenalin comes into it. well, there's what our main goal is to blend athletic routines and wrapped them into the statics of the performance is we need to pull this, make sure it's not just an adrenalin bodies, but also a way to discover something in this genre that matters. and if it's covered, now, no one else can do it. you do a triple wide trap is act on how do you face the fear in doing this in the world? we mean everyone is afraid. there's less, no fear is impossible. but we managed by focusing on our work, what's the date? there's a trick, he must perform dukes and a little bit of

a general and helps keep fear down in each way as during rehearsal. so if there's more time to think about these things and maybe fear begins to bubble on it. if you do something so many times you get used to where to come this up, the fear. so science actually it's still there because accidents can happen more so if it's because it's impossible for each performance to be identical, it's me in terms of how we link hands. sometimes you do it with too much force or not enough. you mean, dash by or you can break something if you're positioning this wrong. well that's, that's not so you feel something's id every day before work because they didn't fit it every day. bring something new. no, it's not like you just keep doing the same thing over and over again. enough every day before we go on stage is what we focus and prepare ourselves to mentally for something new. this thing you never know how it's going to end this time or if it's us, when we go to work, we don't know if we'll be able to link our hands name up. i guess the catch will go right. see any, but this is our everyday goose id or stress with you, but you get used to it someone know for the stress and pleasure at the same time. stress pleasure with the results. look good. that's almost a bullshit. so you mentioned this just briefly right now about

you have to really work together to make sure that um you get rid of that fear element, but there's a lot of trust that is needed in what you do. how long do you, how, how do you build that trust with the people you're working with now or what your trust is really key. such a person in the air has to have absolute confidence in the culture, which is, or can you trust them with your life as the person who's safety depends on the person who catches you have to move it. and if they catch you and they like go, you can break some things. the catcher must be a professional by what you will if you see that they're professional and just trust them more. it's a cause you've worked with them for a long time, but still you trust not only with the with but it takes time after a new person joins our team. wish you get used to them. we'll say we get used to how they grip your hands before they catch you. so it's a process the longer you've worked together, the better those mistakes happen. it doesn't matter how careful you are. it doesn't matter how much practice you've done. what goes to your mind when you've missed

a catch or you? you start to fall. so that how, how do you deal with that as an artist? are you some good in virginia or different kinds of falls summer extreme work. but do you know when you're spinning but not knowing which way you're going to model name, but in this case, all you're thinking about is landing safely in that. so conversely, ideally you want to land in your back and if it is very dangerous to land on your head with us below so, so you're thinking about how to avoid landing on your neck to show our feet. i really wish you don't know where you are and you're focused on turning in time for a safe landing. in other words, it's not really thinking it's more of an instinct with a link or it can be a simpler case equipment, say, if you weren't caught during the show, then you dropped into the net. can you do in this case, you're a little frustrated because you're spectators would like to see an immaculate performance successful. so it does happen that you fall during the show, the 6 always a little frustrating. that's perfect. i mean, i know that in the theater there a lot of superstitions are there any superstitions in the circus about good luck or

bad luck? things that you have to do to have a good show and do you believe any of them or follow any of them? a little bit of that cool. i can't say our team has any specific superstitions, either more general circus superstitions looking, for instance, you to, you can't sit with your back to the arena. but what, what that's common for everyone is they say it's a bad luck if someone crosses your path when you're going on stage. if i deal with these things are mostly remnants of earlier errors. so that's to keep them in the modern worlds. no, cuz we don't think about these things so much, but we do observe those older rituals. could you feel like you don't whistle in the circus or something that don't sit with your back to the arena, etc. music. but it's not because we think too deeply about these things with them. it's just like a unwritten rules stuck. but i love wish that's good. do you love what you do? i mean, what isn't it? what is it about the circus? what is it about flying through the air? the drives you to come and do this every day? no, no, no. because of the deal with 1st and foremost, this is my job and it gets to the, for the people who've been part of the circus for

a long time. and so this is more than just wearing category. it's a way of life. and as i said, when we have an unusually long break, when we're eager to get back to training and you might, if you've been away for too long, do you feel the physical urge to go back to your routine? said if you want to do this all the time that are worth it, even after an injury that you people want to recover and get back even though they realize the danger is equal to. so this is more than just work. and if it's up the stairs love for what you do of so they say the surface pulls you in and doesn't let you go. it's hard to leave. there's a lot of stress, it's not always pleasant when we do some sort of still the people keep coming back with you to a performance is of course are rewarding and people are clapping and they see the reactions and they have the slips to up and makes all the work you've put in, worthwhile, the stick a threat, and i thought, but i think it's very interesting what you do flying through the air. thank you for sharing this time for me. appreciate the

the, the 1st law. thank you for bringing us here to be reunited. this is pretty intense. so have you become an animal trainer? it's not something you go to school for learning. is this something passed down from generation to generation? no, no, right. there are no schools for animal train is anywhere in the world. the most mold, usually it's something that's passed down from the father to son support. after a fitness days. the nice to me feel current. many, such as tennessee is where a 2nd croft is passed down through generations, a continuous look. i didn't. yeah. and i was less all about 6 years old. it will be a failure to trace me. my travel with my dad will stop by. it was already a tiger trainer with design. going to be i decided i wanted to become an animal train of you put to work with big hats. so slowly i began to learn the ropes. well

. so for the animals they don't come from the wilds. do they come to you at a very young age? um, how do you train the circus animal? are they also part of the circus legacy? shown up fellow play the i don't know. it was showing you are absolutely right off . while inquiry, you'll see a baby, tiny game, usa, mamma, she's only 3 months old. those are both her mother and father are here to see stuff to there's a dentist do you have because time goes on, let's take it up there in a wild tag as happy as left off. now i can now i have to ask, there's a lot of controversy surrounding animals in the circus. um, what kind of a job is this for a tiger? what do they feel when they come out? they are, they to go against their instincts, your firm standing, you put the last thing is they've done suppressed their instincts that with some get that off. you notice for example, that need to hear you to is always rolling nobody else for instincts. as mentioned, nissan north, while dunham knows their 3rd or 4th generation circus animals or what my father

used to be pretty. we should have a hustle, like the one we had right now. the maybe if it's a work out for them. so we really like going to the gym level, what my cousin ymca fitness group, they run the jump here, good through exercises, and so on a little past noon. yeah, well it didn't, but the, during the show thing, play that part. got yeah. like into santa what, the total not. he's match of all i want is the tough guy. yeah. phenomenon. this lady, there was a sleepy head. it's obvious that they say if we tiger has a unique pop to play or full telling each one has their own skills that they show off and it on a slip, it shows them the book of i'd store and you know, with your mm hm. did you feel attachment to these animals? do they feel attachment to you? do they recognize you as a trainer or the has the pack or something along those lines? if a boy should got them all like cats like a cat, they don't feel the kind of attachment dogs don't go. somebody can to get the keys, knew that pray that the city that on. so i that not attached a human to tool. and you probably will,

they're not going to rush to protect anyone like, and i've talked to and when jasmine had a, have you try go to go to protected house. i think, you know, this is a present to old and we need to be kept at a certain distance cross the with up with those give me that. i'm gonna look you can just look up to a competitor in even though you've said well with them. um an animal is a predator. um do you ever feel afraid? is there fear at all in your work? no. okay, yes and sure. yeah, it's fine to have by showing the huge date that it's in the 5 liter capacity. now what i'm going to put that on and head to work schedule is that i sure am said yes, of course. and you smart develop even though this circus animals they still have coolest you, they have long shelf tc. they're massive, but i never know how your show is going to in which that the show. if you recall the story of siegfried and roy, they were working in las vegas with those nice white, i guess the, i guess i never seem to come animals. but then something happened between these are

what it's like a busy me in the neck. you'll know the same here, so obviously have to be a lot of people stay on the floor by standing here. karina's inside the arena. you sound like you're just nice. you know, if she leaves, they'll be, may have been like, oh, i can never turn your back on or tell you. i wish it though. i've never shown on what the slip i did. if i turn my back on him now, did you see that? did you see how he looked at me? yeah, it's interesting. there's didn't even a baby tiger know that his mom and dad never lived in the world knows from the earliest age of mashed on that it should jump to you from behind to gives you in your neck. interesting. so it doesn't matter how safe you are. accidents happen um 1st of all, how do you deal with that? and has anything ever happened to you? the slowing in the soul, and i mean you unable to go. there was a kelly's. he attacked me during the show and it all could suggest, no, no it was caesar ha, he was lying down there with that. but it says it just happened during the show. so

we'll switch you is the guys that you'll never fully protected. and the thanks to mind, it's a dangerous job. we never know how the next performance is now. it will good how it will end. when they come out here right now, there's no one out here in the audience, but for a show, this place is packed with kids and all sorts of distractions. how does an animal fight its natural instincts to go against these distractions? total summer, a human child is no different to a ton of good cub lincoln chalet, excuse me, know these tigers from a very young age. and so from that to the age, they get used to the life of style noises and you are the special effects to be applause and so on. who came to feed at some point during rehearsal uh, quite the invite kids to sit in the front rows and clearly we see that our animals can get used to that as well. so now as you can see, the sleeping color when an animal sleeping mask like this one here, okay, do it. that means it's completely reassuring about what's going on in the room.

the apprentice, thank you for taking the time to speak with us. this is fantastic, and so i have to ask, how are you perceived by the animals when you come out as a trainer, are you the boss, are you the, how does the pack, how does they look at you? got a minute and yeah, posts, as you've noticed, they've receive us differently. so i knew they see me as a calmer and foster kind of person. yeah. when i'm in the re with them there realize that you have them out of pointe, ours are approaches. is that because they turn more aggressive and more actively, ma'am? so we have different roles that create isley. roland. so when an animal obeys at your command, it's not about the strength because clearly the tiger is stronger than you are. is

it about psychology? is it about trust? how do you get them to do what they do, what you want, and they build, there's a long and important process of getting used to each other allows you to be building a relationship. what are some building trusted over to? and of course, there's love that knows no bounds within, you know, if you don't love this job, but if you don't love the animals or feel never succeed, which, when i ask of what we do is the 1st one of us these cops play. i mean, we observe them playing, assist and see what qualities they have and we need. some are better jumpers used cars. i'm can do a beautiful turn. good others. so we just look splendid. one sitting or lying down i see was supposed send. this continues until we are 2 years old in 2 years, so think about it. okay, that's how long it takes for a tiger. to turn into an artist, your assess the reading adults would be much quicker, so on. but it's different for the type varies to sit out and when they reach in hubert, he went around 3 years of age. he may refuse to do what they have been doing before what the most use. we have a tigris ledger to betty elizabeth. look,

she's lying over there on all the other tigers are in the arena clear, but she won't go let's step through because she could perform anything until she was 3 blends. and then all of a sudden she went to pre madonna on us me and said, i'm done. she won't, i don't want to, that's it. i can warn you that you can't do anything about her. you can't force her . it's only when she feels like it isn't what i have used to me. it is great if an animal likes a good meal that such animals are a breeze to trade, that some animals don't care about the food that much i need. so i use different tactics and what i have this long brush and i use that liquid cat going to be today, kitty kitty kitty joys good to edit tops along following the brush. if i can make this routine sick, like constantly trading the animal when it and i also of course, this is in their head. so ended their muscle memory on you. and that's what makes them professional artist news. then there's a book sent out and that's just kind of weird question, but do you speak tiger, how do you communicate with them?

uh, do you have your own language with them, or was they, you know, there's, this is a special kind of snort arthur showed you and you what that when they're snorting like this and which means they're happy to see you do that. so they are really fond of us. pleasure. sometimes you see them flattening their ears. they've come jerking their tails and raising their hackles let you know that's a sure sign to leave them alone or send you. but they're angry right now and don't want to do what you want them to do. the, there might and power are reflected in these names. yes. and i think we have hector, you know, the great warrior and that's used to have accurately. sonya said that, but we also have boots, i have no idea why he is called that way and this is the only silly name we have got. we have the car, so it's a very the tigris action course. if you wouldn't call them fluffy or total, would you more became a side um do you love what you do that which for yes, very much so. yeah, i love it very much if the 1000 and let me tell you that. oh so name is sandra. when i'm in there with the tigers,

i feel more at ease than with people. that's true for subjects even when i'm not feeling well. we're in a bad mood. i walk into their enclosures and i'm in good spirits again. you know me, i feel restored. i am fine again. there are moving source of positive energy, unlike people, and she knew tigers don't have and be or hatred yet. they don't feel, hilton, i literally don't have the negative qualities. we have got that as a result. neither energy is pure, so it's, i mean you, when you're close to them, you absorb this energy loss and you fuel grace that there's one that gives you the current. i thank you very much for taking the time to speak with us the, the, the,

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