to focus on the planet to toward against the begins in the minds of men. and i mean, this is one of the most prominent lack of this in the world sees a lot of years to the system that destroys funding. that was one of the pioneers you start is the global see movement. phoning, intellectual property rights of speech is a book that didn't come to him at the gym. and you can watch the seeds of on the machine now and run the she the movie to come. but now the legendary veteran of w t. o. seattle. 1999 in calculus battle since dr. founder that she joins me from there. i don't in india. thank you so much. i found that i for coming back on the show before i even get to the amazing documentary,

i really think everyone should want you to understand more about you rather than just talking to different conferences, a gives a different type of perspective. i have to really begin because this here is the 38 that of a 3 of the bo paula that does us to build is one of the largest. so maybe the largest industrial disaster in history. why do you think it so emblematic of all your fights? and struggles and work on uh on how capitalism manifest itself. and it's war in the book will be in the loop on disaster. because the goal is by abi the coupon genocide. that brings together the fact that development in the code was this is the introduction of talk 6 and boys of this. they should be posted in the seventy's from union call by call by the hand and in the future, forwarding a biko of a red liquid over a farmer,

applying his speed. and it literally became then, you know, the face of the houses died because of pesticides conflict. and till that time they used to say the idea that the other alternatives to best the site is totally false. name a beautiful tree was bushes gold. as on the left, which is what it scientific name is already that like that. and because i found it on the date of the budget after know mobile bonds left on to me because we have saved phones. and this is, it would say g, then 10 years later, let me is back into then 5 to 11 years. i felt that case against the u. s. government and a lot of race, a company that is joined. she has the patent on pesticides. properties of me, so we have a color, superstitious rerecord event, and our knowledge was taken and boulevard was totally avoidable if the non line and

fonts and frankly gotcha. this was all thoughts, but thousands of years had not been interrupted by the green revolution by toxics and chemicals. introducing the name of development as we want to get on joel is that seems to an extent, but it was, as you know, union carbide as was in a bay, there was an advocate settlement. i know the 600000 are the effected some campaign is say that the 120000 continued to suffer to this day. maybe 50. no one really knows how many died, but they were very clear. i know its been taken over by dow chemical, dow jones, the 90 days, the full gas leaking bobo was a terrible tragedy, which understandably continues to evoke strong emotions even 20 years later. but up in the wake of the gas for lease union carbide corporation, and then german warrant, edison was diligently to provide aid to the victims and set up a pro se, as all the claims arising out of the release was settled years ago at the expense

of direction and approval of the supreme court of india. why do you keep going on about it? if, if it's still so important, i suppose lauren anderson ran away and there's enough for records about his escaping from india. second, that settlement brought about a $100.00 to each person, which was nothing. to cover the costs. definitely nothing to cover the supply. you talked about union call by having the most by dollars. but doubts has been, has most with do font and you fund and i'll have a beautiful name today quote, to buy. so you and miller recognize and connected to do an income by new research showing how union carbide which pretends to have existed. india actually keeps existing to shuttle companies, so the amazing investigative journalist following up the policies and side b every

a 2nd and 3rd of december in go above the marches against the continued crime, a guest moved on and the continued injustice there was no justice delivered by call by to date, but we invite the chief executive of court, a variety representative from these newly changed named companies with relationships to the bobo disaster, which they denied. and of course, they denied any connex. it's the past they might, they might say. but um, what about, well a geo political realignment, because i did mentioned the indian supreme court and i know that a b as in the film in a very emotional moment in the film razor got to personally. but on the supreme court level, they agreed to the settlement back then about bobo could things change again? could india know to act so much as a vassal state the washington, which was a long suspected when it came to that settlement and start to exert some kind of

sovereign power against us multi nationals given realignments between china and russia and all the rest of it to the what's been going on this year, as you know, even of the time when the supreme court is really it was on the basis of a totally big fiasco, slain by the state. they represented all the victims as barrens. betcha. the ben was a veteran and they could represent all the victims, the victim said, you're not allowed people to die of those cases. some of them still continue. so i do hope that a new jurisprudence of courage of compassion will emerge once again because often log into the land of dom handbook. yo, a line of non violence in some fashion. and we should use every level of justice to bring compassion to the full. but is there any change can that'd be a change given the supreme court made that judgement years ago. it's already done

isn't oh well, you know, they all of these new situations which data for example, all you know, i'm a big, ashton does well, maybe legal. that's a straight 16 today. the supreme court is here in that case, and asking the government show us the reason why you didn't give us the pool. that there was reason behind it. so, you know, it takes one judge or conscience. it takes one new trigger that connects to another tragedy to papa. and of course, these cases can come back. well, as i said, all subject and companies denial liability and relate to what you 1st said to me. in this interview, the soils of india may have been destroyed by a union carbide back then. but according to you, this oil is being destroyed every single day across the global south. how exactly do you tie up? this incredible network of u. n. agencies will be going to make for, and the i f,

e u, multinational corporations, all these different interconnected elements. a somehow connected to that. so it's under basic thing on life. one of the soil as well, you know, i was my head was all in quantum theory, atomic physics. that's what i was studying. and it was into the 1984 the year of the hope of disaster, but also the bureau of the punjab disaster. when pauses of people died in new widens that i was compelled to work to the united nations university to study what was the green revolution? where did it begin? why are we using chemicals? why are we destroying the song? so i did the book while as the green revolution for the united nations university. and a, i found it all, every kind of goes up to the, the ancestors, all the chemicals of it does gemini, i, g 5 and the american partners. you know, while i was living forth between the nazis and the allies,

the companies were working together to use fossil fuel and finance to make chemical stand. it always broke the road, the financial, the fossil fuels, germany brought the chemical expertise and that expertise to go into the chemical industry recycle the boys in contact because the names change so frequently it's impossible to keep up with their names. but one thing that has stayed to out from the cookies to now is the manufacture boys. and they claim that it is necessary to good food. why? of the soul as across the time? because the process of making nitrogen personalizes to bloody fossil fuels at high temperature to fix that mistake, nitrogen is the same process that made explosives, or when you apply on your nitrate to the solely uria to the solid or living organisms. assorted di, sewing is living. it's fungi back to the age of 12 is what creates

a facility and create light in the side. this talk substance stops to feel like the saw it. so increase this up on the one hand, but it's so inefficient. 2010 percent is used by plans. 90 percent runs off as pollution want to dead zones in the ocean, but even more seriously during the climate discussions, the silence on life is offsite hides the issue of not should personalizes and contribution to the climate disaster. one kilogram of nitrogen personalized so use this to me. does a diesel, it emits carbon dioxide plus nitrous oxide, which a $300.00 times more damaging to the time and then carbon dioxide and they have time to change that makes it close at the side. those the vicious cycle all deserved vacation of this interesting reminder, such a bedtime showed that the same crop, calculated chemically use this 10 times more water than the crops contribution.

don't panicky. so now i'm just not the scare settlement on the, on the kind of want to race was it is well, just trying, i've been job has been absolutely designated. and the read rate industrialized countries, the licks i disappear in jim, is that disappearing. so all the multiple types of this, the face today, the green revolution, industrial, agriculture based on fossil fuels and fossil fuel chemicals is, are the root of the shaver. i'll stop you there. more from the world renowned environmental this after this break, the hi, i'm receptive and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show

. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please, or do you have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you in the midst of the shower and the bone, the soldier monument was erected in 1947 in the estonian capital by the soviets authorities originally built above a burial site of troops remains its memorials of the soldiers who gave their lives in world war 2 will say it's good. the reforming service, the william forgive for really transitional in,

in 2007. the associated government decided to relocate the monument from the city center for one year on the caps printed by me to attend the sooner frustrating to move divided. the population is stony, is large of russian speaking communities, strongly opposed to an intense rising pro, college and talent. these have since become known as the problems and night drives me to bring people across the username and the government, which is the the other group of counselors to call the, the european agenda. i used to about the, to the changes that the, of course section of the security in europe, but now they can see the or the security on the basis of confrontation. that was

not, there'd be that old ford, for instance, you know, during the, these links the endurable that we should ignore them at these are the company's sponsored angle, the climate conferences. they us one spring, the green revolution, this one spring, everything. and in fact, when it comes to what you said about fertilizer, of course the, the greatest uh, uh, freelance ro, capitalist, uh, bill gates, uh, the founder of the pentagon contract, microsoft. he said in stark contrast to what you're saying. i, i've never been shy about my passion for fertilizer. it's a magical innovation that is responsible for saving millions of lives from hunger and lifting millions more at the poverty by boosting agricultural productivity. you're not saying he has something to do with the silence on nitrous oxide i. he has a lot to do with the science and microsoft saying, because in his book, dealing with atlantic catastrophe is standing in front of the fertilizer factory

saying i love fertilizer. and i'm happy of that. i know someone who can be made copy of my uria boss and for july's obviously doesn't know the life of the song. he doesn't know how promise code to the living. so i to grow more for the small for to sort of facility the moyer for production and the more the new fields you know, food. so the science on the approach license is quite clearly driven by, on the one hand, the fertilize the industry itself. and during this period where the price is happening, we personalize the prices are chopped up. what is the 4 or 5 companies that make money? those companies then is the be in the funds, the asset management funds, the backdrops, the bank that mr. gate directly. as a boss, now brookside, the, you know, the alliance of the green revolution in africa was a join to lines,

a broken villa and, and mr. gates. so it just the visa started links on the past, 2nd, in my books on the edit history of didn't take reductionism, you know, it was real casela which find that all the research on eugenics on finding the molecule was of determinism. in life, that is what shape the reduction as biology that they gave us. the deduction is genetic engineering. they haven't bought out of this issue. most important. boeing just before the glass full of summit rock the fellow with new york stock exchange. you know, so they will now go creating assets. not you ask the companies, but they will not own nature as a financial, as this is going on in the cost of climate is going on. and the pomp of identity is going on in every full and social security call. we are witnessing the find

naturalization of nature and to the financial aid station, a new extractive, which creates magic. i've seen the really economy the most of the time the saw is dying, the climate just and the kind of collapse we created in 2008 will be nothing. we will now manufacture a full housing, trillion dollar economy, which we will control in a big this week. so let's stop the game. continuing it just the spills chain, the 5 legitimacy, but the logic of totality in control of a line is what guides every aspect. overall fellow dates and the billing club. well, you being saying that they have a malign influence. of course, there is an entire class and entirely clause involving the alliance for the green revolution. and so many others who disagree. i have to say that given their leisurely so obviously they can afford organic in wisdom countries, organic food,

or it's any labeled organic food. um to get away from the for devices and pesticides. the very which is can, how does the, how does it affect us inside as if we don't veto garrick food because there's one mention of it in the film very briefly. what, what is the micro biome and what all these different companies will these agencies, what it, what do they, what do they mean for actually what's going on inside us? they obviously deny any wrongdoing and saying all that they are doing is basically part of that green revolution which started decades ago in fed, uh, 1000000000 people that would otherwise have stuff to death as well. it is also effective. there wouldn't be a 1000000000 people hungry to date. and the funny a honda was sporadic, it was needing, for example, to the british colonialism. extracting super suppressors party by trinity and from india. and in the process, you create a 105,

and then this is all on because the structure of this planet, including the 5, but how the was our agriculture produces who cannot eat the food they grow because the great commodities at high cost, there's lots of boy, so they're just selling everything the group just to be back. yes to these that the issue of how this this falls from of how we have meet to think of food begins with treating agriculture as an external input system just to what's left dealing with chemicals in it is treated as production separate from totally separate from us and then our hope is the only the big problem using on diseases when you manufacture. so did the fact that the buyer, which knowledge bought would tend to says bly proceeds. yes,

cancer and the w h o has said black procedures look, i've seen much that's bad. that has been your up now. have to many coal cases up for certain periods. the band is really this to be taking it and they have been having banded 40. but the same company then brings you a bunch of discounts that drug, that's a 5 by as high in india to try and strive down the lowest that prevent this time to for not be a list what size is showing. and what people knew, you know, people could use hold for design, mention i am a though i'm not sure about the food is that maybe some food, as i mentioned. now, new science and new research showing us that the biodiversity of the sewing micro biome, the freaks the launch, the vital chemicals and richness that feeds uh good to micro biome which is a 100 premium fellow beings with the only 10 percent of us. the live streaming

basel pass is the gotcha micro biome. and the good to micro biome is so sensitive. all those microbes, new unit, different food. so we have to each diversity. they have sensors that can test the top 6. they can test uniformity, which is another issue this new faithful based on gm will. so yeah, which has moved with a spread into everything. but by the time that monitoring hips, i've got it's an attack and you guys have the gees vehicle, all kinds of that's problems. so they've got to micro mind as opposed to that, then we must tend to the take care of it. and we can only take care of it by taking care of the photos outside in the sun, and then the hops again and again in the film. as you progress in your journey to where you are now, you question uh a things and connections and into connections. but why do you think that the doctors are routine, the a nature of countries treating at every more allergies?

so they say on the clustering, these links necessarily know, actually the mall, dispensable doctors, the more informed doctors are actually making these things. i know what these 3 kinds of specialists were given the clinics in cities and started organic funds to say i would treat my patients by growing good food and nurturing but not to my provider. of course, most of the, the people in the, in, i don't call it the health sector because they're not providing health. if they will provide, you know, they be thinking of food. they're basically part of the industrial medical complex . they're just running the 10000000 up with the medical representatives come. they look at these drugs and it's a machine to set of medicines and drugs. look for the she was real for low did to bring the you should, he also did to our body and basically he drives kinda like every system of testing

that has existed for eva. india's, i believe it is more than 5000 years old. and every attempt is made to rubbish it but to which they would say to which they would say, life expectancy is increased up to the green revolution. the fact that counts isn't more prevalent, it's mainly because people are living longer and that allergies are somehow diseases of affluence, you know, you know what's written about in the press. and i know in the film you talk about lobbied journalism to an extent what what, how the case of punjab it's so yeah. when job the, what the hell these people really hard working to different job is a focus of suicides because of debt and kansas because of pesticides is a cancer clean. that leaves but job and it's not because okay, but like any pregnancy is high, then it was under the british. no, no, it's no that's a bigger on people. young children of boeing and discounts are trained children not getting cancer. it's not just the old people. i mean, you know,

why do i pick up the film shows many steps, which i took on the challenge and addressed it to things create um free to me, the necessary home to the up. and on this reminders to human beings, bobo was the wireless to be both my job was about viruses to people. and boy, this for the up. and they, i ask the question, why do we do it this way? why the slides? and i've went through the structures and then of course i can live with the wireless and, and then i just as a kid, i must find the non bonded font. so my journey has just been a deeper and deeper and deeper journey along. bottoms deeper and deeper journey to project by diversity on every step, i was looking for the points and the different things, but being much behind every disaster the much. so the dimensions of the muslims res, facing the islands, against cline, advisors skins by this. these species extension, you know,

of course in 6 will disappear if insecticides unleashed by the most you clause will disappear. if you on the slide was a meant to feel everything green as long sandra used to say in the convention eating. so everything green green is the solution to life one up, up kind of go design to just build the green is already go cycle. as i know the film shows how your assistant change your life. and albert einstein changed and changed your life. as i said, private capitalist inevitably control the main sources of information. it's almost impossible for individual citizens to, to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of political rights. do you think that they may be very different from country to country, from continent to come to the information the war is being lost? the amount of lobby journalism i was surprised to hear you. i suppose maybe maybe

your fans would not be surprised to hear that you were under personal attack. i know in the, in the film it shows your life was threatened any way, but you're on the bus to attack from magazines like to new york or, or whatever. do you think what you're saying can be transmitted in media publications, in massively profitable markets in western europe, in the united states? well, you know, for me, what matt does is that it's transmitted. and you know, i can say this much, you just yesterday a young does from news and then release the book. and then she was off. what inspired you to this book? and she says, funding that she was writing on the green evolution book. sure. a young people over the place, they didn't get it from social media, didn't actually read books and they could do that. so there's a king group of concerns group of citizens who are very a week and are looking every way they can to find the answers to the multiple

prices because the name of the heavy machinery and it's so repetition utilize, can even predict what will be said because of the food they're discussing is premium was in germany, and now buyers in germany should see all these they on the beach to attack and attack and attacks. so they don't come down. and for me, you know, but i did signs because science means to know the to just to you like to know it's knowledge. that's my fashion. knowledge is my fashion. and just because 5 men page, the money michael specters and the month eliasis writes treasury pieces, you know, i'm going to give up my passion for seeking on says on how to protect life on the stuff i would go to that book of another chiva. thank you. and that's it for the show. remember, you can watch the seeds of on the left, even though in front of us, even movie, don't come movie back next week with another brand new episode. but until then you can still keep in touch by all social media,

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