as in a bio diversity of movement and a journey from atomic sciences to feel as fights of and natural seeds is chronicled in the new film, the seeds of under the shiva, the food is of it. when you sell real weapons to control on when you control the food, you control the site. but when you control the seat, you control. it's like industrial foaming is the single biggest destructive force on the planet to the water against the begins in the minds of men. and i mean, this is one of the most prominent lack of this in the world

sees a lot of years to the system that destroys funding. that was one of the pioneers you start is the global see movement. phoning intellectual property. right? those seeds is an attempt at the gym and you can watch the seeds of on the machine now and bundle the she the movie to come. but now the legendary veteran of w t. o seattle 1999 in calculus battle since dr. founder that she joins me from there. i don't in india, thank you so much of the for coming back on the show before i even get to the amazing documentary, i really think everyone should want you to understand more about you rather than just talking to different conferences gives a different type of perspective i have to really begin because this here is the 38 that of us 3 of the bo paula, that disaster build is one of the largest. so maybe the largest industrial disaster in history. why do you think it so emblematic of all your fights and struggles and

work on uh on how capitalism manifest itself and it's war in the book. it will be in the loop on this also because the goal is by abi the coupon genocide that brings together the fact that development in the 3rd world is the introduction of talk 6 in boys is they should be opposed to in the seventy's from union call by carbide as a handling the future, forming a beaker of a red liquid over a farmer, applying his speed. and it literally became the, you know, the base of the houses die because the pesticides conflict. and till that time, they used to say the idea that the other alternatives to best the site is totally false. name a beautiful tree with bush and gold as on the left,

which is what it scientific name is either the director and because i found it on the date of the budget after know mobile bonds, less bond to me because we have saved phones. and this is what with century been 10 years, me to me is batch and to then 5 to 11 years, i felt that case against the us government and the large. ready company joins, he has the patent on pesticides, properties of me. so we have a couple of superstitious rerecord event and our knowledge was taken and boulevard was totally avoidable if the non violent fonts. in fact, we gotcha that was authorized for thousands of years had not been interrupted by the green revolution by talk 6 and chemicals introduced in the name of development as we want to get on. joel is that seems to an extent when it goes, as you know, union carbide as was in a bay,

there was an outer court settlement. i know the 600000 or effect in some campaign is say, the 120000 continue to suffer to this day may be 15. no one really knows how many died, but they were very clear. i know it's been taken over by dow chemical, dow jones, the 1980 full gas leak. and bobo was a terrible tragedy which understandably continues to have a strong emotions even 20 years later. but up in the wake of the gas released union carbide corporation. and then jim in warrant edison, what diligently to provide aid to the victims and set up a process. all the claims are rising out of the release was settled years ago at the expense of direction and approval of the supreme court of india. why do you keep going on about it? if, if it's still so important, i suppose the morning anderson ran away and there's enough for a cause about is escaping from india. second, that settlement brought about a $100.00 to each person which has nothing to cover the costs. definitely the

nothing to cover the supply. you talked about union call by having the most my job, but doubts has been has most of the do font and you fund and all have a beautiful name today call to buy. so you and miller recognize and connected to do an income by new research and showing how union carbide which pretends to have existed, india actually keeps existing to shuttle companies. so the amazing investigative journalist following up the policies and savvy every 2nd and 3rd of december in go above the marches against the continued crime, a guest moved on and the continued injustice. there was no justice delivered by call by to date. but we invite the chief executive of court, a variety representative from these newly changed named companies with relationships to the bobo dissolves, which they denied. and of course,

they denied any connex. it's the past they might, they might say. but um, what about, well, a geo political realignment, because i did mentioned the indian supreme court and i know that a b as in the film in a very emotional moment in the film razor gotten through personally. but on the supreme court level, they agreed to the settlement back then about bobo could things change again? could india know to act so much as a vassal state to washington, which was a long suspected when it came to that settlement and start to exert some kind of sovereign power against us multi nationals given realignments between china and russia and all the rest of it to the once been going on this here. as you know, even of the time when the supreme court is rudy, it was on the basis of a totally big fiasco, slain by the state. they represented all the victims as barrens. betcha. the being

was a veteran, and they could represent all the victims, the victim said, your top favorite people out of people to die, of those cases. some of them to continue. so i do hope that a new jurisprudence of courage of compassion will emerge once again because often log into the land of them being put your land of non violence in some fashion. and we should use every level of justice to bring compassion to the full. but is there any change can that'd be a change given the supreme court made that judgement years ago. it's already done isn't oh, but i'm do, you know, they all of these new situations which data, for example, you know, be dashed into as well. maybe legal. that's a straight 16 today. the supreme court is here in that case, and asking the government show us the reason why you didn't give us the pool. that

there was reason behind it. so, you know, it takes one judge of conscience. it takes one new trigger that connects another tragedy to papa. and of course, these cases can come back. well, as i said, all sorts of good companies, denial liability and relate to what you 1st said to be in this interview. the soils of india may have been destroyed by a union carbide back then. but according to you, this oil is being destroyed every single day across the global south. how exactly do you tie up? this incredible network of u. n. agencies will be going to make for them the i, f, e, u, multinational corporations. all these different interconnected elements are somehow connected to that. so such a basic thing on life. one of the soil but you know, i was my head was all in quantum theory, atomic physics. that's what i was study and it was of july and you need to pull the

year of the whole book by disaster. but also the year of the punjab disaster, when pauses of people died in new widens that i was compared to up to the united nations university to study what was the green revolution? where did it begin? why are we using chemicals? why are we destroying the song? so i did the book file is the green diffusion for the united nations university. and i found that all every chemicals of to be the ancestors, all the chemicals. oh, it does gemini, i g 5 and the american partners. you know, while i was living forth between the nazis and the allies, the companies were working together to use fossil fuel and finance to make chemical standard always broke the world. the finance and the pulse of deals, germany brought the chemical expertise and that expertise to vote into the chemical industry recycle the boys in contests because the names change so frequently it's

impossible to keep up with the names. but one thing that has stayed to out from the cookies to now is the manufacture poison. and the claim that it is necessary to good food. why? other sources across the world time? because the process of making nitrogen personalizes to blending fossil fuels at high temperature to fix that mistake. nitrogen is the same process that made explosives. when you apply on your nitrate to the solely, you already have to the saw it or living organisms. assorted di, sewing is living. it's fungi, back to the uh, 12 is what creates the facility and create light in the side. this toxic substance stops to life. so it, so increase this up on the one hand, but it's so inefficient. only 10 percent is used by plants. 90 percent runs off as pollution, water off dead zones in the ocean with even more seriously during the climate

discussions. the silence on life is upside, hides the issue of not should personalizes and contribution to the climate disaster . one kilogram of nitrogen personalized. so use this to me. does a diesel? it emits carbon dioxide plus nitrous oxide, which is $300.00 times more damaging to the time, and then carbon dioxide. and they have time to change that makes it worse and the side, those, the vicious cycle of desire to pick ation of the interesting the monitors such a bedtime showed that the same crop. it has to be to typically use this 10 times more water than the crops contribution. don't panicky. so now i'm just not the scare settlement on the, on the kind of want to these was that as well just trying, i've been job has been absolutely designated and new red wait industrialized countries, the licks i disappear in jim is that disappearing. so all the multiple concepts that the face to the, the green revolution, industrial,

agriculture based on fossil fuels. and for some people, some of those is, are the root of the shaver. i'll stop you there. more from the world renowned environmental this after this break, the, the other group of kansas to call the the european agenda is

dave about the, to the change of the, the 1st section of the security in europe. but now they can see the or the security on the status of the confrontation that was not to date, plastic fall. and the main idea about the western counselors to until the 20 ethical, the welcome back to going out the garden. i'm still here with that the globalization pioneer adoptive under the sheet. of course john list will cover what happened in bun job as me of the ethnic strife. and that's a conflict, a point, very well made in the field. obviously, the rockefellers, a foundation would say, yeah, that was long ago, the nazi links to these companies, historically, whether it be that or ford, for instance, you know, during the,

these links the endurable that we should ignore them at these are the companies sponsoring all the climate conferences, they us once during the green revolution, they sponsoring everything. and in fact, when it comes to what you said about fertilizer, of course, be the greatest uh, uh, freelance real capitalist uh, bill gates. uh, the founder of the pentagon contract to microsoft. he said in stark contrast to what you're saying, i, i've never been shy about my passion for satellite is a, it's a magical innovation that is responsible for saving millions of lives from hunger and lifting millions more at the poverty by boosting agricultural productivity. i'm not saying he has something to do with the silence on nitrous oxide i. he has a lot to do with the science and microsoft saying, because in his book, dealing with atlantic catastrophe is standing in front of the 1st like a factory saying i love to to lie. so and i'm happy of then i know someone

who can be made copy of my uria boss of for july's obviously doesn't know that like saw him. he doesn't know how promise card to be living. so i have to grow more for the small for to so i'd facility the moyer for production and the more the nutrients you know, food. so the size on the personalizes is quite clearly driven by on the one hand, the fertilizer industry itself. and during this period where the price is happening, we personalize the price is a charge up. what is the 4 or 5 companies that make money? those companies then is the billionaire funds, the asset management funds, the backdrops, the bank that mr. gate directly. as it was no fruits in the you know, the alliance of the green revolution in africa was a joined to lines of broken villa and, and mr. gates. so it just the visa started drinks on the past. second,

in my books on the edit history of june to reductionism, you know, it was real casela which find that all the research on eugenics on finding the molecule was of determinism. in life. and that is what shape the reduction as biology that they gave us. the deduction is genetic engineering. they haven't bought out of this issue. most impulse and boeing just before the glass full of summit rocks, the fellow with new york stock exchange now. so they will now go creating assets that you ask the companies that they will not own nature as a financial, as this is going on in the costs of climate is going on. and the pomp of identity is going on in every full and social security call. we are witnessing the find naturalization of nature and through the financial aid station, a new extractive us,

which creates magic. i've seen the really economy the most of the time the saw is dying because the stabilize. now we will, but on wall street and the kind of collapse we created in 2008 would be nothing. we will no manufacture a full housing, trillion dollar economy, which we will control in a big issue this week. so let's stop the game. continuing it just the spills chain, the fibers exchange with the logic of to 10 to 10 controllable life is what guides every aspect of growth fellow dates and the ballistics up. well you being saying that they have a malign influence. of course, there is an entire class in a dire lead class involving the alliance for the green revolution. and so many others who disagree. i have to say that given there, uh, these are lead. so obviously they can afford organic in wisdom countries, organic food, or it's any labeled organic food. i to get away from the,

for i to highs isn't pesticides. the very rich is can. so how does the, how does it affect us inside, as if we don't eat organic food? because there's one mention of it in the film very briefly. what, what is the micro biome, and what are all these different companies? will these agencies what it, what do they, what do they mean for actually what's going on inside us? they obviously deny any wrongdoing and saying all that they are doing is basically part of that green revolution which started decades ago in fed, uh, 1000000000 people that would otherwise have stuff to death. well, i think so, so effective. they wouldn't be a 1000000000 people hungry today. and the funny a honda was sporadic, it was leading for example, to the british colonialism, extracting super so plus was $45.00 trillion from india. and in the process you create a 105. and then this was all because the structure just boom including

the 5, but how the was our agriculture produces the people who the girl because the great commodities at high cost, there's lots of boy. so they're just selling everything the group just to be back. yes. to these that the issue of how this this was from, of how we a meet to think of food begins with treating agriculture as an external input system just to what's left doing what kind of goes in it is treated as production separate from totally separate from us and then i hope is the only the big problem using on diseases when you manufacture. so take the fact that buyer, which know they bought with central, says bly proceed. cancer and the w h o has said, like we'll see,

does it cost you much? that's bad, that is up for the 2nd periods. it is the, the band is slowly this to be taking it and they have been ottoman. they haven't banded 40, but the same company then brings you a bunch of discounts that drug, that's a fine bias has in india to try and strike down the laws that prevent this kind of for not be but what size is showing and what people knew. you know, people could use hold folders. i mention i am a though i'm shovels, the food is that medicine, food is limited. so now new science and new research showing us that the biodiversity of the sewing micro biome, the freaks the launch, the vital chemicals and richness. then these all got to micro biome which is a 100 trillion fellow beings with the only 10 percent of us. the live streaming pod, your boss is the got to micro biome, and the got to micro biome is so sensitive. all of those microbes, new unit,

different food. so we have to each diversity. they have sensors that can test the top 6. they can test uniformity, which is another issue this new faithfully based on gm will. so we'll just move with a spread into everything. but by the time that money to it so that it's an attack and we get tired of gees vehicle, all kinds of problems. so they've got to michael mind is a 1st with then we must tend to be take care of it and we can only take care of it by taking care of the photos outside in the sun. and then the hops again and again in the film as you progress in your journey to where you are now, you question uh a things and connections and into connections. but why do you think that adults are routinely a nature of countries treating at ever more allergies? so they say on clustering these links necessarily, this is,

you know, actually the mall, dispensable doctors, the more informed doctors are actually making these things. i know these 3 kinds of specialists were given the clinics in cities and started organic. want to say, i would treat my patients by growing good food and nurturing but that to my provider, of course, most of the people in the, in, i don't go to the health sector because they're not providing health. if they will provide, you know, they be thinking of food, they're basically part of the industrial medical complex. they're just running the 10000000 up with the medical representatives come. they look at these drugs and it's the machine to set of medicines and drugs broke the sheets withdrawal from the date to bring the you should. she also did to our body. and basically he drives kinda like every system of testing that has existed for eva. india's,

i believe it is more than $5000.00, every attempt is made to rubbish it, but to which they would say to which they would say, life expectancy is increased up to the green revolution. the fact that counts as a more prevalent is merely because people are living longer, and that allergies and somehow diseases of affluence, you know, you know what's written about in the press. and i know in the film you talk about lobbied justices them to an extent what what, how the case of punjab it's so yeah. my job the what the hell these people really hard working to different job is a focus of suicides because that and kansas because of pesticides is a dense a clean that can be spun job and it's not because okay, but likely like a fuse high then it was under the british? no, no, it's no that's a pick up on people. young children of boeing and discounts are trained children not getting cancer. it is not just the old people. i mean, you know, why do i pick up the film shows many steps, which i took on the challenge and addressed it to things create outreach and me

unnecessary home to the up and on this, remind them speak human beings. bobo was the wireless to be both been job was about viruses to people. and boy, this for the up and they, i ask the question, why do we do it this way? why the spots? and i'm going to the structures. and then of course icons live with the wireless and and then i, this is a big i must find been on bonded funk. so my journey has just been a deeper and deeper and deeper journey and on buttons, deeper and deeper. do i need to project my diversity on every step? i was in the okay for the, for the different things, but the much behind every disaster. the much. so the connections of the muslims re space and the violence against climate bonded skins by this, these species extension. you know, of course in 6 will disappear if insecticides unleashed by the most you clause

will disappear if you want these levels a bench to feel everything green as one center used to say in within mention meeting. so everything green green is the solution to live, putting up a chemical design to just build the green is already equal cycle. as i know the film shows how your assistant change your life. and albert einstein changed and changed your life. as i said, private capitalist inevitably control the main sources of information. it's almost impossible for individual citizens to, to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of political rights. do you think that it may be very different from country to country, from continent to come to the information the war is being lost? the amount of lobby journalism i was surprised to hear you. i suppose maybe maybe your friends would not be surprised to hear that you were on the personal attack. i know in the, in the film it shows your life was threatened any way, but you're on the bus to attack from magazines like to new york or whatever. do you

think what you're saying can be transmitted in media publications, in massively profitable markets in western europe, in the united states? well, you know, for me what matt does is that it's transmitted to and you know, i can say this much just yesterday. ready a young, just from newsletter released, the book, and when she was off, what inspired you through this book? and she says, funding that she was writing on the green evolution book. sure, a young people over the place. they didn't get it from social media. actually read books and they could do that. so there's a king group, it concerns a group of citizens who are very a week and are looking every way they can to find the answers for the month of the prices because the name of the heavy machinery, it's so reparative utilize it. even predict what will be said because of the food

they're discussing is premium was in germany, and now buyers in germany should see all these they on the beach to attack and attack and attacks. so they don't come down and just let me know. but i did signs because science means to know the to just to let you know it's knowledge. that's my fashion. knowledge is my passion. and just because by many page that money to michael specters and the month light is right, trash pieces, you know, i'm going to give up my passion for seeking on says on how to protect life on this back. i would come to that talk of another shaven, thank you. and that's it for the show. remember, you can watch the seeds of under this, even though in front of us, even movie, don't go movie back next week with another brand new episode. but until then, you can still keep in touch by all social media, or if it's of the sense that in your country, you can always heads of the channel going underground tv and rumbled up, come to watching you and old episodes are going undergrad supervisor.

the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show your mind, anticipation. we should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously is to, to makes a truck rather than fit the area. i mean, with the artificial intelligence we have so many with him in the a robot must protect his phone, existence was on the

market structure as well as for the american. so see when it was, are up at the moment. this is just simply stay of course with me. your last name was name is really 1st and when we used to be you know, you mentioned we have support for someone who is this, we would show new people to the, the the,

the main suspect and the comp opening, the wounded wash and white is the hopper laughing until he's fly the next to acting on instructions from you. 3 need intelligence. the left in has been successfully operated on. paste into a medically, angie's time the most good. what was the attempt on his life? a tire? it's also coming up the 100 thing to the streets of london in protest of the mona key, and that the combination of tang tone which were both of a cost which time passed over the course of a $1000000.00 pounds the .