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the hello and welcome across document. all things are considered on people about it, bringing the tires inside brush. it stepped up, it will be sent months. the recent drone attack on the trembling is the most notable, is this part of the long awaited ukrainian counter offensive? if so, what is the objective of this calendar? events that isn't to promote a wider conflict the to discuss these issues and more enjoyed by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he is a pod cast, read the gabble of which can be bought on youtube and locals. and here in moscow across the give me 35, the cheese, a political analyst and editor. it is me, internet and media projects are a gentleman, prospect rules and

a back. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. i would start out with george in budapest, you know, georgia when you and i looked very carefully at the coverage of the drone attack on the kremlin. but not surprising. universal across the board wall to wall rush. it did it to itself. okay. it's really quite interesting is that all false lives are committed by adversaries of the west, in a, in a other than that. it's a conspiracy theory. just think otherwise. i think there's something much more in play here. toner, offensive on woodside, when it's gonna start may 9, you know, it, does this add up to anything to you at this point? go ahead george want. it's very hard to know, but you're absolutely right. be to false flag tags. oh, boy is what the us laboratories are engaged in the, you know, syria in and the russians whenever you know, whether it's north street. oh yeah. yeah. they destroyed their own gas pipelines. uh, you know, the yeah. do you know?

yeah, yeah, this was obviously a, a russian operation and so that's inside it to be 2nd wise if, if you say this about the united states, then you just, the crazy conspiracy is up. but in terms of the counter offensive, i mean, i think that will be a ukrainian down for offensive. i think it will start very shortly. i think this is a preliminary. so it's um, now in terms of what it's, the objectives are. i mean, i think it's in just in order to keep the will go it. yeah, i mean i, i don't think it's hands on whether it succeeds or succeed slightly or doesn't succeed as well. the money is going to keep flowing in. i mean, that's the, the us government is. so that's a bipartisan thing. they're just going to keep giving everything to ukraine. so if it's, if it's the succeeds that hey, we must give them all the bells we have to give them more,

forgive them all because otherwise don't saying wins. so either way they get more. so, i mean, i think that's the, that's the, the end game behind this, a comprehensive, you know, team a, you know, all of this, particularly you cover media very, very closely. you do all the hard work for the rest of us because it rushes always talked about topped up well. give us your thoughts as a russian about this drone attack on the kremlin because from my standpoint being president of moscow is quite humiliating. to be honest, let's say the truth, go ahead, team would use the meeting, adam though of course it's a so while the west and, but it is some say the pressure. so, i mean my favorite is to do 3 d and you know, a green but a decent from germany, a full weiss, johnson, or if you know a full knowledge stuff was through the late sixties early in the seventy's. and only she said that the cold peace wouldn't be the resolve all way to find inside

the power at the right us. so i can just imagine, you know, a bottle rushing to the is launching the rolled in order to destroy the all the above the rest of the, the, the police suddenly, you know, see the straight down the road. so i don't think, i don't think it was, it was a full swear that that because you've been great and that suggest uh it wasn't for the case by reference. so there are options that we saw. we would have agreed that something terrible that the criminal next door and that's dollars, right? a response that you're going to be present as and the official announcement about the $36.00. so 8 hours later because what's the square think and how to present that to the people and the if, if it had been the publication, even the old, the media would be ominous. you know, in the next few hours say we must do something, know what it would make

a speech or nothing type. and so he did, it, wasn't it there? and russia really, we don't know well, because revenge is that it is so cool. that's the fresh said much, but the new idea will face flag at that. you know, that you see that and all the media in government to do that to states in the, in the u. k. i mean, is based, very need to say that falsely. i got, that's very typical. people can say a conspiracy theorist, you know, didn't they shut down the, you know, to some deans. and that said that they spread, you know, the conspiracy theorist of all the photo slide it back. and i'm all the, he the, you know, so, i mean, he sees the hunter by the laptop. okay. is it perfect? uh well, it was amazed. the media is the wes folks talking about russia. it's solely descends to the level of free media conspiracy theorists. you know, whether i see going,

forgot the cables, you busy, or i said to destroy the soul 51. but i said that the gravity of, you know, this is also up. so these people should sense of themselves. you know, in a judge, you know, if you, you and i have come across this phrase, it is part of putting the playbook, the rest and placement stuff. but must be really big. it covers all reality. does a lot more seriously, george. um, you know, i think we can all say we're more or less the same age on this program. and there was something called rambling all the g. remember in the day, okay. got it got most things wrong. it just, it is weird. it's head. why would people talking about russia basically have no idea anything about the country because funding ups of soviet studies ended the day the soviet union came to an end. so you basically have a group of blind mice talking about something they have no idea what they're talking about. yeah, that, that's,

that's the right. they the fact that the people to whom they go in order to get the expertise on russia have no expertise. so if people like a julia, you all fit or you know, the, the, such as the people who are just simply are paid to be the wrong. yeah. they have a problem exec, i mean they are, but somebody like judy, okay. who was blown in last year, i mean po, job is to be boys, uh, filled with hatred for rush or whatever russell does. she's on have to tell them what a horrible b will terrible country is. and i know that's, it's music to the, is of, of the, the american, the immediate big it is very interesting. i mean, exactly as deem a said, if it were a full, so flag attack, the russians that in themselves the bone, you know, they would, they would be immediately on and to launch the, uh, you know, whatever it was that they were planning to do in the 1st place and the fact that they didn't, should have been evidence of this evidence that he was or the whole. so i get that

. and yep, a story is continued a little more magazines than, you know, they're in numerous or their own kind of interchangeable magazines. a website still around. but the days of the day is that this is a full swag. it's, i was, you know, the very basis of it was on the a tool. and so that's, that's, that's the way they, what they, they, they present russia, you know, d movie. and again, looking at the mainstream coverage of what you just put that in the say, the least, you know, ukraine wouldn't do such as like, oh wait, we have, we've had assess the nations of the ongoing. we have had bombings, we've had drone attacks here. this is have been a very consistent of policy and big because of the, i think it is, it's obvious that the of the west, particularly 9 states is giving all the logistical intelligence helped to the ukrainians to commit these acts on russian soil here. so, i mean, again, speaking is a russian here, what is the reaction of because it is the tempo is coming up and we're getting it

more and more often here and having particularly jury duty now, which is a non combatant. okay? so you can it, and you know, i mean, that dreadful assassination, we have that military blog or in, in st. petersburg. so what is, what is the level of frustration here in dealing with this? well, i think some of the thoughts, you know, the famous rush morris on. oh, cool is i think the best because these carnival people who call and also the filter did syria may, may not. she says that basically these campaign of the steps on the 3rd floor is above the counter offensive and i agree to the strike. you know, these tribes the books, the stripes, the railroads, they strike people, you know, uh, also well known people said ever just like the famous right. those are live in. uh you know, dfcs as far exploded. he is 5, a died she, me, a renter was the stay the wife but was bandages and the,

it's interesting to quote what the western media wrote about the lincoln, when she was great to go for just you know, the need to solve the medium. what did you just think about it just like about? he's a bridge assessing depot chair and when the mall and the going to be, or she has always be a joy to do what she does all was the way she was, that they didn't span in any way. you know, they just, even though she was a newport personally, she was a very nice young never, never touched it's lauren for wife. and then she was absolutely not aggressive. uh, they acute, either more just wait. and now they said 30 days later, a low, you know, the, my, so i was just seeing your brain at the right time. you just more stories. because the answer is starting on the equations side. they want to cause premiere from russia, from the rest of russia. and they think they will fail simply because they set

themselves realistic goals that idea to reach the front of me or in pick your brain is simply not previous to people that don't want to be taught to create the 1st place and all so crime use very easy defense geographically and also the body could be human rights is absolute. that means that there are different views on the right . the central range of all these to be great, but there is a rush for me to be. it is the air, the ball, grey, me, it'd be the pressure so the same as a matter of fact. let me throw that to george and it's a very good point to minutes and type of pregnant both. it's russian. so i held the population there doesn't want to be returned to the control of k of here. and so it's, it is a very full list, dangerous error and on the part of the creating machine. but that's just to keep the war going. as he said, right, i mean it's an impossible goal. so the way glitches with will make some kind of

attempt and it will just please our western backers. well without question, it will please the west and back us. um, we have now this uh, congressional resolution. that's working its way through um congress that the minds that the us support ukraine, everything that he can do in order to restore the ukraine to is 1991 voters. so now the us government will effectively be committed to uh, ukraine being and it's like in like a one borders in effect. you know, the, the ross, the u. s. government is providing a blank check to ukraine to go full time is, you know, and his name is ad. i mean, that's an absolutely insane military bank ship, but that's not what the us government is committed to. so in a way, so once it has to do this, because that, that's now the official us position. i was it, but this is, you know, you have to get probably mailbox. and basically,

the americans are determined to keep us logo and then not interested in any of these thoughts. any piece of the go see ation about george sold out. so we'll talk about these thoughts in the 2nd half of the program general. i'm going to jump in here. we go to a short break, and after that you break, we'll continue our discussion. and so we only stay with our team. the 1935 fast is easily led by dictator benito mussolini decided to expand its colonial empire in africa and take over the opium. by that time l. p. a was the only fully independent state on the continent. back in 1896. its inhabitants were able to

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world war 2. the a welcome across software. all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. this is the home addition to remind you, we're discussing some real minutes the to go back to the me here in most of the george brought up in the 1st part of the program. it's very end about this congressional or resolution basically of a codified it's non binding. but i mean if it is rhetorically very powerful and it does influence policy to guarantee the sovereignty of ukrainian borders of 1991. is this a, a back door to, to, to nato. i mean, basically, it sounds like, you know, that's what you would give a nato ally under the article. bide. so they're just doing an extra on the side

and going around nato because they know members of the european members of nature would never do that. they would be at least be divisions within the line. so this has got to blanket in and sullivan and, and, and between new and doing a runaround. go ahead. well, i think lisa graham is also also, so these are the, that the instagram kind of that would be based molar 80. go up to. right. so the problem with the west is that really confused, which just recently went to see the almost all glean dish. oh, the main street. i mean the, the official a, all the premium called or offensive is we will listen to people why progressive? that usually is that you bring to speak at the locations for our professional course. right? well that's exactly what i told you, nor speak porter. so that's exactly where that goes from point a semester. this seems like it's, you know, the to the right spot for the mazda service,

so i give them a bunch and then you talk to them, and then they will be registered this and these photos here to the site. you use the process of kind of a back was east of a shade coffee ac the feel the wall in the sense of the blow of the sports. what's wrong you the 17th century always. i mean, you live at the stacy, the west in general. it's not the fashionable book of all the east, the way poland talks about, right. but somehow the west adult that the bush position, they know that the exactly the point is, but the position of the point is negative. so by the realize situational stance, i would, i would broaden it out. i would say a lot of the eastern european emigrate community after the 2nd world war. this is, yeah, i think that it's kind of a combination, george, you know, you living in, in hungry right. now, i mean, you know, good reason not to like russians,

but the hum gary in government has taken much more nuanced positions. it kind of bucks, history. go ahead george. right above the 100 position of basis. um, i'll take a look at that by victor or bonded bubba certainly work or home gears. think but orbital understands that this is not 1956. i mean, there are many young areas of stolen or wrap themselves up in uh, 1956 much are poland, always wrapping itself in 1939. but some of these people live or by and say, look, soviet union is not russia. this isn't about the russia seeking to exert itself on the non russian people. this is it for him. this is a, a, a conflict between bravo slavic people's. i mean that, that's it, but it has nothing to do with us. and that's a, that's of a get of the, uh, sophisticated possession. but it's wanted to just go back to what i'm a demon said about food, you know, the understands the language. of course it says the world was trying of cliches of,

uh, weston, uh, thinking, particularly as it is going all this that it is wrong. i mean, is like a, you know, when you, when you, when you look at, say, just look at the soviet union. i say in the 1950s, you have the united states threatening to roll back communism, liberate eastern europe as best a tough. so then the soviet union, you know, it goes to the hungry and 1956 and the united states doesn't do anything so, so much the idea of the russians only understand language report, you can threaten them. but when the vital national interests are at stake, they will do whatever needs and they done all the interested in. somebody is threatening the, the, you know, the game of the dates. i suppose. i mean, they just listening to what i hear in the media in the russian media, in western media and the global self media, then there is widely expected to be counter offensive, maybe the russians and the ukrainian. so they have their own color offensive video

. obviously in different ways here. what, what would be the reaction? what would we, would there be the procession to let the ukranian spend themselves their forces, their work, you know, their treasury, their lives, and then rush it would counter? or because this is always we asked and this is a long going debate. the george and i have had our, our podcast, the gag. well, you know, rush is always reacting. it is been reacting since the start of the conflict. is that something that's a pretty been argued be being made now in russia? because again, going back to this drone attack that, you know, getting ready for the big 3 day parade, you know, have the, you know, the, i can guy i saw and cnn, or something like that. you know, the camera was just miraculously, you there, know those camera was there for the parade. okay. they're getting ready for the rates. so, i mean, the thing is, what is the thrust of public opinion here is that people getting tired of reacting or, you know, just believing in the plan,

go ahead. the executive right of all the camera. i mean the, they see and that they're the little bit states, the red square is always feel, you know, because it is a huge, very important square as in boy, all kinds of width instead of that, oh, i got beat up all the ask you the oddest you know, you know, they exist this take worse than the engine off in a french, psychiatric, there's all that to say to freedom fire a lot of the rush on this. and now he's in 1st present as far as adults. i'm anyways, so what i want to say is, yes uh there will be a problem that are fits. it's how rice will be if i don't think even though it was, it will all depend on the situation. in general, when people say, oh, what is, what is, what is blasphemed. i mean, things changed when you have a kid to come flat, the age of, you know, the age. so the was change depending on the situation. right?

and what i can say is that i withdrawal, it should always just says that basically this point is to put the spencer wanted the language of strand. i mean, by all his actions for him to show that she never did never was to pressure either showing it with the service in the sauce has shown in many times, you know, she can wait. what little justice and in general, what i'm sorry, but this is typical crash report is that, you know, there were 2 approaches. you're the west, you know, really broad will want to, uh, you know, get you to close out through the points and there was the position about an hour of the, of the best. but you just like to just stay where we are and better, you know, wait until the boat down. and when it prompts for to see what i mean, a lot of people on the risk complete the other, the influence over the, you know, german, a russian unable, you know, that get closer to each other. it was much more than one of the reg as pressure.

you know, it was a big push the job at the concerts that see the in the need a just the same thing. east. you have chinese approach, which was from me that you have japanese approach, which was just, you know, no peace street game, but we don't know when do you return us the q ro i, that's kind of what it's very do. you know, we have nice relations based on developing japan is what are these so and what it says beam 50 is about 60 years ago. it's the same little rush. i didn't move because it's one of those is because of the pressure while i'm doing these because you would solve this. so in this product, if it shows anything, it show us that the bank to this, to solve my process on these, the aims once and some of the things that are from the bull on the pressure the, that's the side. so they did that. you can talk the roster from a position of strength of the don't. it simply is not what can i mean,

give me an example in history when for their own little search accept just, you know, judge the, the problem is the way the west is framed is conflict and ukraine. is it, it's a purity test. it's a moral, a civilizational choice and all that then, then that is a complete debt, and just for the reasons they deem it just the numerated, i mean, you can't see it. if you can't talk, you can edit ok. it only force will end that. that's a part that's a dreadful position to be in for, particularly the soldiers and the conflict in the civilian population in ukraine and then the secondary elements of all of these sanctions that are impact in the global economy. yeah, that's exactly right. i mean, the west has framed is as good versus evil. it's always hit, but it's always the style. and it's always the matter. you know, if we don't prevail, then evil prevails. i mean that's, that's the way they are. we have to fight them over here exact ways over the fulton is that kind of a combination of hibler style and it'd be in

a depends. it's an amazing how are they big frame that. but the interesting thing is that when you have somebody move my chrome, my chronos expensive, they fix the fix, the view that, well, if we have an offensive the bi ukraine, margaret was successful, then we can have peace thoughts. and i think he probably doesn't want to have a piece or, but it's going to be swept aside because by the americas, the americans, you know, in public say, yes, yes we, what we, we, you know, we, we, one piece, but they have no interest at all in peace, so they, they have them use this as a, we have a comprehensive and then we move on. so the further they, they want, they offer nothing to rush. i mean, it's like, you know what, you know, what, what your offer is like in the father to nothing they, they, they simply want this to go on and on. and essentially, you know, those like my chrome or even sergeant shows so who. so how think that, well, maybe we can help go get, get some way down the road and then we can have a big baseball prints or whatever they are delusional. this,

there is no way that there's going to be anything like that this, this level of by force is the only way it can be settled in. but more importantly, george, the mccomb and sergeant shields, they're not decision makers anymore. they're not seen as decision makers. they're actually laughed at now their company or their tragic comic figures. these 2 most important countries in europe of neutered themselves and handed over the baton to the loonies in warsaw and, and to deem a jump in is that true? unfortunately, the situation is very dangerous. i mean, the way that you are being you and yet, and the rest is 2 door dresser. it's your center is the what says the overboard the viewer. so let's see what diseases and sometimes is binary based people. so by the police change the above the, you know, the world is do, at least, you know,

in the what size of the game. it's a bad we have to be. and then any was cool, suggests corporal mise, he is on the side of evil. you know, this is the guy related to that, the, and i, i don't know what can say the bus was gonna be bad. a huge baltic may be just the total, the total say, well that's great and comprehensive, which is very possible. because right now is i raise the rapidly running out of time here, but i've said from the beginning of this complex, i don't know what you brain people, what you can brain will. what will look like will be lost. the, [000:00:00;00]

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