and, and they weren't even allowed julian hassan just being on the show. be able to watch our interviews with them on rumble to the funeral of his friend, vivian, westwood, the famous fashion designer. why given reports of his deteriorating health? are they so intense the british and the americans on keeping him incarcerated? no. julia's message emitted degrees crime. he exposed crimes of state uh which state power wants to be suppressed. that cannot be tolerated to the attack on the power and dignity of the state authorities. so has been treated very poorly for years. he was actually locked into what's called an embassy, but it's actually a small apartment not allowed to do. it's rented by police,

then he was put in a prison that designated for serious defenders. there's 3 to again, extremely horse treatment. the u. n. reports are unter plausibly in my view describes it is a torture rubber door and torture on the tonight after designation. oh, he's being sure in the united states, a lindsey espionage act. so that's a goes back to 1917 quarter of the harshest repression in american history. the wilson administration bitter attacks on anyone who questioned the nobility of the participation in the 1st world war

a major tax on labor. and this is shown intellectual opinion. it is part of the repression that has an enormous impact on the american society, listed to prison. legacy is true. it's been used for essentially the purpose for over and over the most extreme was actually a rock obama. the, the current case is saying, just being charged on to the espionage, it could not be on the books in any democratic society, but to main crunchy, a propaganda from se style in a soviet times your music sports press in the, in the native nation landscape. whereas before, it was done in a slightly more well as you describe the most structured and more complex way

i think actually in many ways better now than it was before. one reason is that many journalists have simply live through the liberator. in effect of the activism of the 19 sixty's which share many barriers this after math, which continues, this is part of their formation, tends to make them more free and open. you look back to the say, 196, these are the ideas, questioning authority, barely a roach, take the vietnam or the worst crime since the 2nd world war 2 years to try to organize in a position to it. i happened to live in boston,

which is the most liberal city in the country. we couldn't have totally demonstrations against the war because they would be violently broken off. a tried to have meetings in churches of churches where it was years before you could finally get some kind of protest against this or in this atrocity which by the time protest, right, really develop to almost destroyed 3 countries up to that there's been a change shown in the war, currently raging in europe. of the, you know, you look at bernie sanders advise them at the us diplomatic summit settlement would mean ukraine surrender every single person in the bite. and the d. n. c, the democrats voted to supply weapons to ukraine. the senate approved the resolution to support defendant in sweden, in nato,

and the rand pool and john holly to who the g o. p 's. and that just voted against a you have a, the entire i mean, all 6 of the so called score, the democrats all intent and they're all know, demonstrate the show it of state power and official doctrine that it exist. you go back to the 19th sixty's, it barely even exist. it was no up in the case of the vietnam or for example, that was essentially mean you're called an apologist for her g mail. ok, that's just standard technique available. vacation, you know, order answer arguments. you through murder, people, that's normal expected. but to today, if you look at the main stream establishment gerald foreign affairs major journal, you actually find the range of critical commentary. actually,

not all the different from things i say will go back years. you didn't as it just marching in a period. furshly? no, it isn't. but of course, in say britain, they band c g t and the dry news channel from broadcasting r t. a famously. why is it that you think russia thinks it's fine? i think it's like a level of this week giving a press conference allowing west and reporters accreditation, whereas in the united states, they obviously don't ban media in the us because of the 1st amendment. certainly in europe, obviously there's mass binding of journalists and journalism. and what's behind that, and that truly does depart from what from manufacturing consent, where they didn't want to ban anything. they just knew that the low selling outlets

would fail to engage the populace in, in decisions opinion is the 1st of all, let's go to uh, you look through the see the take a more recent event, the erac or not that far back. anyone who dares to say that the record was the major crime of the century, which it certainly was, is bitterly denounced and condemned. if you look at the discussion in the main stream, you'll be hard put to find anyone who disagrees, couldn't reach the main street and who will say the elementary truth in this indisputable truth. the theoretical was an example of what the nuremberg tribunal called the supreme international crime,

a new direction which differs from other war crimes only in the it includes all of the evil that follows. so find somebody who says, president bush, donald rumsfeld, dick cheney were guilty of the crimes for which people were, i don't know, remember, and said what you have is celebration of george bush, the great criminal who is a to do rec, enough scanners to destroy the celebration of him as a lovely person to school, the goofy graham placement and his grandchildren paints pictures just a delightful person. well, that's the radical it's for, it's quite striking that anyone who dares to compare your rank or was the

russian is ation of ukraine is viciously denounced. harvard university even had a debate in which the debate was whether the rank or can be considered a humanitarian intervention. a debate, suppose is moscow university. the debate whether the russian invasion can be called a humanitarian intervention. can you imagine the reaction in the west, the what's the reaction to the where stood up and it, or the close look at the open as an american society. they're even willing to question whether this military intervention was a humanitarian intervention. well, that's manufacturer of consent. let me give any explicit example. recently, there were couple articles in the mainstream press saying there's no,

some skepticism arising about whether rusher was really responsible for the sabotage of the north stream. pray play, plunge promises drunk scouts, stop you. the more from one of the world's greatest and most sites in public intellectuals after this break, the

crushed up a high quality life to my definition is having the necessary conditions. the most part of you can start motion in terms of the number of hours available in a week or contact can being pretty sure which in which is why i would say to be conscious of your existence. what about take is of transcend device or existence or it would pretty shows you all the adults and it means one thing, but it was not going to cut them. we've you purchased. it means to know that some waste with the if your storage or near puts on this into something else. just as though without safety, you are essentially a mundane person and shy. pronounce that as well, some the the welcome back to going on the ground. i'm still here with professor know i'm trying to escape american dissident and co author of the

pioneering book, manufacturing consent, the political economy of the mass media. maybe they call you a put in a biologist because you expressed doubts about a terror attack. that was one of the worst is if climate to destroying gera tax given the amount of fossil fuels released. that alone is what the sabotage means for energy resources for germany. you think that the mainstream media that said this must be the russians, could have got it wrong. that means the least likely to the the per a for state responsible for this other. this is russia, it's the pipeline. numbers of those and destroyed is largely owned by does grow russian company would possible purpose with russian is had in destroying its in sabotaging its own major capital investment,

which it counts on for supplying your refresh it. one of the support, the stuff, the supply of grass, guess all i could do is turn off the sales, didn't have to destroy its main. it's main, the investment. so the least likely state of it can be a charge is russian. so of course, the western media immediately rushed on race to say, will russians responsible? know they're raising some skepticism. that's called manufacturer of consent said to framework and debate within it. but it's the framework version saying, who's the likely culprit in the north stream service. those who had the motive and the capability, well, just one state, united states obviously had the motive, in fact, was quite frank and open about saying that those were put not only opposing the

pipelines but saying that they'll be destroyed. the motive was not secret, was perfectly public, obviously had the capability factor interested, large naval movers in the region of right before the show that the difference, a major shift position equipment. so the capability in the mode is clearly nobody else said anything like that. the russians in the least likely cobra . so manufacturing consensus, let's have a lively debate to show open for you your but within the framework that excludes the assumption. but the possibility that the united states might have been involved with literally discuss to be with is a least likely cobra version 12. well, that's effective propaganda. your own g as in boy,

that's refutable. what do you do is set up the framework of discussion, which excludes totally excludes the of this most likely answer, the debate or other things. during the case of the rec, you have a debate that harvard over whether the or i can vision was a humanitarian invasion. you don't have a debate over whether it was the a crime kind of crime for which not. so your current levels right now. remember, you don't want to open the question for discussion to discuss something ridiculous . was it a humanitarian intervention? when you carry out or shocking or attack against the rug, smash up the country, kill hundreds of thousands of people, of all kinds of torture and other trusts and age. if i just add one of the worst crimes in the iraq war, was the battle lose you?

especially the 2nd battle us lose you. devastating destructive immersion tech was a marine issue began was taking over the general hospital war crime in itself. then destroying much in the city doing no, you know the gentleman the people because we don't investigate around crimes. how is that? remember the united states? well, i'll tell you the u. s. navy, there's no commissioning a new there. so in honor of the marines who forwarded flew to school de luca. that's the way we deal with one of the worst crimes doesn't get reported. of course, i should say, the bible administration officially denies involvement in the tara tack on the north stream, as does the british administration of allegations the royal navy was involved in it . i mentioned that you were a critic of uh, that'd be a persian,

given that angela michael says that the mintz process was actually a delaying tactic to, um, ukraine. what would you have done differently? knowing that the politically within russia, vladimir putin was under pressure, given the thousands of people of the done bass being killed with nato, a weapons in, in eastern new grain. given that the men's process was when john for a number of years, it was adopted by the security council. what do you suppose to do after being told repeatedly that the, the americans was going to grow into your grand ukraine, wasn't going to join nato and actually it was and that obviously we have the, the details of the crew. you, if you had one further negotiations you would have called for intermediaries with the french. that's not quite the story on the american

bill now says that it was a delay for the original part of the evidence in the red or this report to claim the nothing. this is the time german and french took it very seriously, were pressing for a modem of, of cream, actually up and to couple of days before the invasion, federal loan interchange with coding. you can read the transcript published as the french chris offering various ways to reinstitute something like the minsk agreement and prevent the invasion of purging rejected it at the end. the last conversation 4 days before the invasion. hey, simply reject the discussions with contempt. so i'm sorry i have to go ice skating or something like that. well, there were opportunities. there was plenty of for

a vacation. you're quite right. lots of publication, publication doesn't justify aggression. aggression is a major crime. here, if you provoke me to attack you and then i attack you, i'm guilty even if i was approved. and for the people to defend their opinions decision as a, a mock of a new world order to avenge iraq. just one of the was in reason is that your government has been involved in has the global south come together. you currency is being talked about, new ways of talking about energy, perhaps even helping the climate better than any comp, somebody's under the aegis of the united states. you don't buy that. you can believe in a global south with the china or india, lula,

your friend. and i'm brazilian rusher altogether, and the depth depth of your up in effect, as well as a 0 or major shift in the world or in the invasion of ukraine as a reaction to it is accelerated. this one effect of the invasion of ukraine was the, gives the united states that extraordinary gift put in case in the united states and gifted it greatly real issues. it drove europe into the pocket of the united states. there's been a debate. so through the cold war, back to the 1940s as to whether you were should move in an independent direction, be what was sometimes called the 3rd 3rd force in international affairs was

pressed most vigorously by charles to go. deliberate are supposed to take gestures of calm and others, united states and stood and demanded would scroll the latest version based on negro, which the united states rose, of course, which europe would be subordinate, the united states. this became a major issue with the collections of the union. is the garbage of proposed to common european home from lisbon to start the military alliances. victors defeated common efforts to move forward towards a more or less social democratic erasure. united states was strongly opposed, says that on the atlanta she should have put in just as inside

of the united states, its highest wish provided europe at least temporarily, is within, has abandoned search for independence. that is joining subordinating itself to the states to it's the same to which some would say they were already base is a gram stain in britain and that craft gary over the united states for so so long. we're running a little bit $200.00 time professor chomsky i want to get to something really disturbing. and what you've been writing recently. i thought you said and coming from this pioneer of generative grammar, i'm saying that's like lose be connected. you said that humanity kind of a dedication to self destruction. what i mean, given that megan mock level people have now claimed, says she, she reads your work. and i know you send a message to through the va ways,

as it was saying that you would please to prince harry's wife. read your what. what do you mean by a pathological, perhaps dedication to self destruction given? we are talking obviously about them at things that involve them again and then i know the bulletin, if that's all mac scientists will be resetting the the clock next tuesday about how close, how long we have to live. it will also be said the doomsday clock in 1947, shortly after the bombing, the hands are set certain distance from midnight. midnight binge termination is the human species. uh the 1st city was 7 minutes to midnight. its also later over the years during the trump administration, they abandon minutes move to seconds. so center, 100 seconds to midnight,

january 24th, it'll be said again, i presume. the 2nd it will be said closer to midnight. certainly should be the main concerns or increasing threat of nuclear war. the very severe and growing threats of the destruction of the climate which is rapidly increasing. states are not doing what they know they must do to solve this car issues. the 3rd is the deterioration of the arena of rational, serious debate and delivery issues with the collapse of democratic forces around the world. sounds at 1st is that doesn't belong with the 1st 2, but it does because it's only hope for dealing with the 1st 2 or 3 has

gotten considerably worse during the past year. and unless there is a sharp reversal, we'll simply be heading for a pressure push, pulling over a reversible another little distant future present on chomsky. thank you. and that's it for the show. we'll be back next week with another brand new episode, but until then you can still keep in touch with all social media or if it's not sensitive in your country, but you can always head to a tunnel, going underground tv on rumble to come to watch new and old episodes going on the ground. so you guys have the inside rush. it stepped out to be some most recent roll it coming from one is the most notable is this part of the long awaited ukrainian counter offensive?

if so, what is the objective of this culture events? it isn't to promote a wider miss . charlotte brown, the soldier monument was erected in 1947 in the estonian capital by the soviets authorities. originally bells above the burial site of troops remains. it's the memorials of the soldiers who gave their lives in world war 2 will say it's good that i need to go to the department service can waiting for the transition in 2007, the estonian and government decided to relocate the monument from the city center for one year on the front of me to a to where in the frustrating to move divided the population. the stony is large of russian speaking community strongly opposed it. an intense rising,

broke out in town in these have since become the, as the problems and night drives me to bring people across the username. and it covers the of the, the western side of the city. that is a credit of tennessee, by the way, that is in the miniature base on the west side of the city. you said you're trying to retrieve it from here, under attack of the russian, a private administered company. wagner. plains is made of bonds in our from office, also known as bach move, with just a little over to square kilometers of the cities. still like to take off the remaining on the front of the pro ukrainian, an activist. try to disrupt the events in europe honoring associate liberators from

the 2nd world war a police before the move in.