of the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered on people about it, bringing the tires inside russia has stepped up a recent months. the recent drone to tack on the kremlin is the most notable. is this part of the long awaited ukrainian counter offensive? if so, what is the objective of this calendar events that isn't to promote a wider conflict the to discuss these issues and more enjoyed by my guess, george, send me while we in budapest, he is a podcast or at the gabble of which can be bought on youtube and locals, and here in moscow we prosecute, meet republic. he's a political analyst and editor. it is me, internet and media projects are a gentleman, prospect rules and a back. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's start out with george in budapest, you know, george w and i looked very carefully at the coverage of the drone attack on the trembling,

but not surprising the universe. so across the board wall, the wall rush, it did a to itself. okay. it's really quite interesting is that all slides are committed by adversaries of the west, in a, in a other than that. it's a conspiracy theory. just think otherwise. i think there's something much more in play here town or offensive on woodside when it's gonna start may 9, you know, it, does this add up to anything to you at this point? go ahead george want. it's very hard to know, but you're absolutely right. the, it's a full swag, a tags. oh boy is what the us adversaries are engaged in the, you know, syria in and the russians whenever you know, whether it's north street. oh yeah. yeah. they destroyed their own gas pipelines. uh, you know, the yeah, yeah, this was obviously a, a russian operation and so that's inside it took a 2nd. why is if, if you say this about the united states and, you know,

just the crazy conspiracy is, is up. but in terms of the counter offensive, i mean, i think that will be a ukrainian down to offensive. i think it will start very shortly. i think this is a preliminary toe it um, now in terms of what it so objectives are, i mean i think it's in just in order to keep the will go and he, i mean i, i don't think it's hands on whether it succeeds or succeeds slightly or doesn't succeed as well, but the money is going to keep flowing in. i mean, that's the, the us government is. so that's a bipartisan thing. they're just gonna keep giving everything to ukraine. ah, so if it's, if it's the succeeds that hey, we must give them more of look our way would be the baby bells we have to give them more specific in the model because otherwise in wins. so either way they get more. so, i mean, i think that's the, that's the, the end game behind this, a comprehensive, you know, team a, you know, all of this, particularly you,

we can cover media very, very closely. you do all the hard work for the rest of us. it rushes always talked about topped up well, give us your thoughts as a russian about this drone attack on the kremlin because from my standpoint, being president of moscow is quite humiliating. to be honest, let's say the truth. go ahead. what would you say the meeting was? it's a sure where the west and put edition say the price would be the so, i mean my favorite is to do treat t and you know, a green but a decent from germany, a full weiss johnson. or if you know a full molly stuff was in the late sixties, early seventies. you know, he said that the cold peace wouldn't be the resolve all way to find inside the power at the right us. so i can just imagine, you know, i bother russian to the, these low into the roll in order to distort is that all the above the rest of the,

the police suddenly, you know, see that straight down the road. so i don't think, i don't think was it was a full swag at that because you great. and that suggest uh it was a publication by russians. so there are options that we saw. we would have agreed that something terrible that the couple next door and that's to straight a response to that against the criminal. i'm not going to have that. and the official announcement about that, becky, i think it's 6. so 8 i was way to, it was, was the despair. thank you. and how do you present the, the people and the so if, if it could be in the publication near all the media would be all enough. you know, in the next few hours say we must do something, don't what it would make a speech or nothing happened. so he did, it, wasn't it there in russia really we don't know well, because revenge is that is so cool. just the fresh say what about

the new idea or full swag at that, you know that you see that all the media in government to do that to states in the, in the okay. i mean, we have, you know, this is also up. so these people should sense of themselves, they were more or less the same age on this program. and there was something called a parental analogy. remember in the day, okay? and it got most things wrong. it just, it is weird, it's head. why would people talking about russia basically have no idea anything about the country because funding ups of soviet studies ended the day the soviet union came to an end. so you basically have a group of blind mice talking about something. they have no idea what they're talking about. yeah. that, but as i said, they right, they the fact the people to whom they go in order to get expertise on russia have no expertise. so as people like a julia, you all 6 the, the,

the such that people who are just simply paid to be the problem. oh yeah. they have a problem exec, i mean they are, but somebody like judy. okay. who was blown and last year, i mean per job is to be always uh, filled with hatred for rush or whatever the rest of those shoes on hand to tell them what a horrible evil terrible country is. and i know that's it's music to the is of, of the, the american, the media, if you break it is a very interesting, i mean, exactly as deem a said, if it were a full supply, i got 5 of the russians that had themselves a boom. you know, they would, they would be immediately on the launch, the, you know, whatever it was that they were planning to do in the 1st place. and the fact that they didn't, should have been evidence of this evidence that he was or the full. so i get that and yep, a story is, continue to move a magazine then, you know, there's a numeral, don't kind of interchangeable magazines, a website still around. but the days of the day is that this is

a full swag. it's. i was busy the very basis of it was on the a tool and so that's, that's, that's the way they what they, they, they present rusher, you know, team i think. and again, looking at the mainstream coverage of what you just put that in the say, the least, you know, ukraine wouldn't do so just like, oh wait, we have, we've had assess the nations of the ongoing. we have had bombings, we've had drone attacks here. this is have been a very consistent of policy and big because of the, i think it is, it's obvious that the, the west, particularly 9 states just giving all the logistical intelligence helped to the ukrainians to commit these acts on russian soil here. so, i mean, again, speaking is a russian here, what is the reaction of because it is the tempo is coming up. they were getting it more and more often here and having particularly di duty now, which is a non combatant. ok. see it, and, you know, i mean, that dreadful is that as

a nation, we have that military blogger in, in st. petersburg. and what is, what is the level of frustration here in dealing with this? well, i uninstalled the thoughts, you know, the famous rush morris on the cool is i think the best to cover these carnival be to go and also the filter did syria may may not because she says that basically these complain of the steps on the 3rd floor is above the counter offensive and i agree, told a story, you know, these price the least price, the re rules, they strike people you know, uh, also well hold people sit ever just like the famous right. those are live in. uh, you know, dfcs as far exploded as bravo died. she, me, a renter was the stay the wife but was bad the just of the it's interesting to quote what the western media wrote about the lincoln. when she was created, go, you know, the need to solve the media wasn't this think about,

just like about. he is a big assessing deeper chair and one of the more and are you going to be or she has always be sure to do what she does all was the way she was, that they didn't span in any way. you know, they just, even though she was a newport person, issue was a very nice young never, never tested flores for wife. and then she was absolutely not the rest of the, they acute is the most just weights. and now they said 30 days later, a low, you know, the, my social brain at the last time you just more stories. the colder, faster is started on the side. they want to cause premier from russia from the rest of russia. and they think they will fail simply because they set themselves realistic goals that idea to reach uh earlier in pick your brain is simply not previous to the wants to be tough to create the,

the 1st place. and also prime use very easy to defend geographically and also the public opinion in russia is absolutely, i mean that there are different views on the rest, the central, the range of what needs to be great, but there is a rush for me to be. it is, and the ball grey needs to be, the photographs are so the sense of the mattress. but let me throw that to george and it's a very good point to mean. it's in fact with pregnant both it's russian. so out of the population there doesn't want to be returned to the control of the care of here . and so it's, it is a very full list, dangerous error and on the part of the ukrainian regime. but that's just to keep the war going. as he said, right, i mean it's an impossible goal. so the way glitches with will make some kind of attempt and it will just please our western backers. well without question, it will please the west and back us. um we have now this uh, congressional resolution. that's working its way through congress that the minds

that the us support ukraine. it, everything that he can do in order to restore the ukraine to is 1991 borders. so now the us government will effectively be committed to ukraine being and it's 1991 board has an effect. you know, the view ross, the u. s. government is providing a blank check to ukraine to go full time is, you know, and his name is ad. i mean, that's an absolutely insane military event ship, but that's not what the us government is committed to. so in a way is the once it has to do this because that, that's now the official us position. i was it, but this is if you know, you have to get probably mailbox and basically the americans are determined to keep us. we'll go and then not interested in any of these thoughts, any piece of the go see ations about george sold out. so we'll talk about these

docs and the 2nd half of the program general, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. so we only stay with our to the the

ultimate across software. all things are considered. i'm peter, although this is the home addition to remind you, we're discussing some real minutes. the okay is go back to the me here in moscow, george brought up the 1st part of the program. it's very end about this congressional or resolution basically of a codified it's bound binding. but i mean if it is rhetorically very powerful and

it does influence policy to guarantee the sovereignty of ukrainian borders of 1990 . 1, is this a back door to, to, to nato. i mean, basically, it sounds like, you know, that's what you would give a nato ally under the article. bide. so they're just doing an extra on the side and going around nato because they know members of, of the european members of nature would never do that. they would be at least be divisions within the alliance. so this has got to blanket in and sullivan and, and between new and doing a runaround. go ahead. well, i think lisa graham is also also, so these are the, that the instagram kind of that would be based molar 80 go up jobs. right? so the problem with the west is that really confused, which just recently went to see the almost calculating ditch. oh, the main street i in the official a full day increase called or offensive is we will listen to people why progressive?

that usually is that you bring to speak at the locations proper positional force, right? so that's exactly what i told you. more speed. what is? so that's exactly where that comes from point a semester. this seems like it's you know, that you've got the right spot for a few months to serve yourself, get them off, i give them a bunch and then you talk to them and then they will be registered. and these $47.00 to be cited. you use the process of kind of a back was east of a shady, coffee ac, the builder wall in the sense of the flow of the sports. she was wrong in the 17th century. always. i mean, you live at the stacy, the west in general. it's not the fashionable book of all the east, the way boyland talks about, right. but somehow the west adult that the bush position, they know that the exactly the point is, but the position of the point is negative. so gotcha, so the roma,

situational stats, i would, i would broaden it out. i would say a lot of the eastern european emigrate community after the 2nd world war. this is. yeah, i think that it's kind of a combination, georgia. know you're living in in hungry, right. now, i mean there's no good reason not to like russians, but the home gary in government is taking much more nuanced positions. it kind of bucks, history. go ahead george. right above the high given position of basis. um, i'll take a look at that by victor or obama. it does papa starting work or home gears think, but oregon understands that this is not 1956. i mean, there are many young areas as the winner wrapped themselves up in 1956 much are poland, always wrapping itself in 1939. but some of these people live or by and say, look, soviet union is not russia. this isn't about the russia c and to exert itself on the non russian people. this is it for him. this is a, a,

a conflict between bravo slavic people is, i mean that, that's it. and it has nothing to do with us. and that's the, that's of a get of the, uh, sophisticated possession. but i wanted to just go back to what i'm a demon said about food, you know, the understands the language, of course is the words west chai, of cliches. of uh, weston, uh, thinking, particularly as it is going all this that it is wrong. i mean, is like a, you know, when you, when you, when you look at, say, just look at the soviet union. i say in the 1950s, you have the united states threatening to roll back communism, liberate eastern europe as best a tough. so then the soviet union, you know, it goes to the hungry, 1956 and the united states doesn't do anything so, so much of the idea of the russians only understand language of what you can threaten them. but when the vital national interests are at stake, they will do whatever needs and they done all the interested in. somebody is threatening the you know, the email that i suppose, i mean,

they just listening to what i hear in the media in the russian media in western media, the global self media, then it is widely expected to be counter offensive. maybe the russians in the ukraine and so have their own color offensive video, obviously in different ways here. um, what, what would be the reaction when we would there be the procession to let the ukrainian spend themselves their forces, their work, you know, their treasury, their lives, and then rush it would counter or because this is always we asked and this is a long going debate the george and i have had on our our podcast, the gag. well, you know, rush is always reacting. it is been reacting since the start of the conflict. is that something that's a pretty been argued be being made now in russia? because again, going back to this drone attack that, you know, getting ready for the big 3 day parade, you know, have the, you know, the,

i can guy i saw and cnn, or something like that. you know, the camera was just miraculously, you there, know those camera was there for the parade. okay. they're getting ready for the rates. so, i mean, the thing is, what is the thrust of public opinion here is that people getting tired of reacting or, you know, just believing in the plan, go ahead. the executive right of all the camera. i mean the, they see and that they're the little bit states, the red square is always fuse. you know, because it's a, it's a huge, varying for this class. and boy, all kinds of weird things. step of that. oh, i got the, the ask you the oddest, you know, you know, they exist this take or stand around the end of the french psychiatric resolve that the freedom for a lot of the rest of this. and now he's in 1st grade as far as adults. i'm anyways, so what i want to say is, yes uh there will be a problem there. that's all right. so we have, i don't think even though it was,

it will depend on the situation in general when people say, oh, what is, what is, what is blasphemed. i mean, things changed when you have a kid to come play a age and you know, the, even so the was the change depending on the situation. right. and what i can say is that i withdrawal, it should always just says that basically in this bonus you put the pencil in there, the language will spread. i mean, by all his actions for him to show that she never, never lost the pressure she that's showing it with the there is in the, in the sauce has shown in many times, you know, she can wait. what little justice and in general, what i'm sorry, but this is typical crash report is that, you know, there were 2 approaches you the west, you know, really broad will want to, uh, you know, due to close out through the points and there was the position about an hour of the

all the best employees are just like just stay where we are and let us, you know, wait until the boat out. and when it prompts for to see what i mean, a lot of people on the risk complete the other, the influence over the, you know, german, a russian unable, you know, that getting closer to each other. it was much more than one of the reg as fresh. you know, it was the biggest, the, for the job at the concerts that see the end of the day, just the same sensitivities. you had to try and use approach, which was from me that you'll have japanese approach, which was just, you know, no history did. we don't move on. do you return us the q ro i, let's try that. what is very do, you know, we have based relations based on developing japan is what are these so and what it says beam 50 is about 60 years ago. it's the same little rascal because it's one of those is because of the pressure well doing phase because we would solve this. so indeed, the, i think this, this product, if it shows anything,

it show us that the bank to this, to someone who says on these, to a box and some of the things that doesn't pull out the pressure the that side. but so, you know, they did that you can talk to russian from a position of strength. and the don't, it simply is not what can, i mean, give me an example in she's when he was so no such exact it's, you know, george, the, the problem is the way the west is framed is conflict and ukraine. is it, it's a purity test. it's a moral, a civilization, all choice and all that. then, then that is a complete and dead and you spell. the reason is that damage just the numerated. i mean, you can see if you can't talk, you can edit ok and only force will end it. and that's a part that's a dreadful position to be in for, particularly the soldiers and the conflict in the civilian population in ukraine. and then the secondary elements of all of these sanctions that are impact in the global economy. that's exactly right. i mean,

the west has framed is as good versus evil. it's always hit, but it's always a style. and it's always the matter. you know, if we don't prevail, then evil prevails. i mean that's, that's the way they are. we have to fight them over here exact ways over the fulton is that kind of a combination of hibler style and it'd be in a depends. it's an amazing how are they big frame that. but the interesting thing is that when you have somebody move my chrome, my chronos spencer, they fix the, takes the view that, well, if we have an offensive the bi ukraine, margaret was successful, then we can have based thoughts. and i think he probably doesn't want to have a piece or, but it's going to be swept aside because by the americas, the americans, you know, in public say, yes, yes we, what we read a we, we one piece. but they have no interest of the old in peace. so they, they have them use this as a we have a comprehensive and then we move on. so then i saw that they did, they want, they offer nothing to rush. i mean, it's like, you know, what, you know, what,

what your offer, it's like in the father to know they, they, they, they simply want this to go on and on. and essentially, you know, those like my chrome or even sergeant shows so who. so how think that, well, maybe we do go get, get some way down the road and then we can have a big baseball prints or whatever to they are delusional. there's, there is no way that there's going to be anything like that. this happens every several of by false is the only way it can be settled in. but more importantly, george, the mccomb and sergeant shields, they're not decision makers anymore. they're not seen as decision makers. they're actually laughed at now. they're cutting their, their tragic comic figures. the 2 most important countries in europe of neutered themselves and handed over the baton to the loonies in warsaw and, and to deem a jump in is that true? unfortunately, the situation is very dangerous. i mean,

the way that you are being you again and the last based loop towards the rush i, it's your center in the was says, the overboard the view. so let's see what diseases and sometimes is binary based people. so by the police change the box, they will need to know the world is due, at least you know, in the what size of the game. it's a bad, we have the baby and they any was cool uh, suggest it came from eyes. he is on the side of evil. you know, this is the guy, the ticket that they had bought. and i, i don't know what can say the bus was gonna be bad. a huge baltic may be just the total, the total say, well that's great and comprehensive, which is very important. because right now the i've said from the beginning of this conflict that the people send assistance, the must be the one else calls question about this,

even though we will then in the european union, the print media mission, the state on the russians routing and split the supposed back, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services, what she did you say is even close to the words that are very, very precarious moments in human history for try c plus or flesh. so using expect is the way me p 2 links is up, is just as serious. was it still you could stay at the new filter for you and reduce the custodial cream of love,

story union wasn't mentioning correct. not show me. it's got save you. it's going up with cheese, so it's done. yeah. easy references. religion towards the sea chest face with no credit, the work you give is so dry idea of what she has written this time and you cry, genocide of civilians, militarization of society and an ultra nationalist state. policy decades may say history is repeating itself on let's not forget to a 2 years ago, the soviet union defeated not to some of the cost of an enormous number of casualties. there's a reason why the so be as well as 27000000 and the u. s was 310000 and come back. the brits about the same number. the soviets were doing most of the friday. and most of the time, if you k in france,

had decided that agreement with soviet union, they could have stopped the, the, the western side of the city. that in to print it out to the rebuttal. the miniature base on the west side of the city. you came here to retrieve it from here under attack, the russian, the private ministry company, wagner claims it's made of bonds in of trouble, also known as black boots, with just a little over 2 square kilometers of the city. still left to take here at all to remain on the front line. pro ukrainian activists try to disrupt events in europe honoring soviets liberators. with the 2nd world war, a police were forced to move in to try and keep the sides apart. meanwhile,

ukraine swaps out made the 9th of victory dates that operations of a nazi germany with the e. u.