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worse, and of course, this is the origin of recent history, is not the erosion of history that happened centuries ago. i would say that the frame of mind of these atlantis is deletes now is represented by what they're trying to impose to the whole west. the cheats of the ca, yes. nations 7 of them, fives of central asian spans philip bruce and armenia. the poles in their flowers in front of the term of the unknown soldier side by side with booking. this is the image of victory the year, and this across the global south that is not submitted to council culture. people will notice. all right, thanks for joining us to best buy pro a customer this our from us going off the international always so good to have your company back in about half an hour's time with a live footage of victory day of fireworks above the russian capital of you can return and join us at the top of the, the,
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[000:00:00;00] the hello wealth as well as a part in this new foreign policy concept signed into law. the spring. russia for the 1st time officially defined itself as a distinct country civilization with its own set of values and its own articulated vision of the world and the relation of different nations. what does it mean for the waiting, most co positions itself on the international stage,
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and perhaps even more important to me, how it goes about building its own life here at home. i'll discuss it. i'm now and join bar on the pretty bulk one of russia's most, to renounce colors of the east and as senior searcher with the people's friendship, university of russia. busing. by thank you so much for your time. i'm more than happy to talk and answer your questions. and let's start with the concepts i mentioned pick up our which has given rise to many discussions and russia about what the civilization is and how it is different from a country at that section. and then we'll talk to, so we're working primarily with english speaking audiences. some of i had a lot of trouble coming up with a good english word for some of with me if i don't, because it can mean unique, unique, distinct, and exceptional. and what have you, so sufficient? what does that you go in other option? what's your understanding of this idea from up with the civilization self sufficiency?
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no is rooted within that particular characteristics. who are totally into next to the cultural and intellectual leads of the country that i thought certainly was which then and it kind of ripple effect of propagation across the rest of the book relation. when the city new media pollution is less than volts and higher cultural endeavors include education management, etc, that with them with us in this regard rusher would like to be self sufficient, the chance of achieving this goal. so you have this top down idea of association civilization. however, russian lives have changed dramatically over the past few centuries. will the countries interesting craddick self sufficiency? how's the theory remains the same? you might to use just see if something goes established and to cold, say at the end of the must go roost area to cuba. and as soon as 10 such a major top down revolution the roll, the whole, i'm pretty little to see of who go what was the dates of a great tried to accomplish, let up, you know, as old habits comebacks toward those patterns just called disappear. the new or put in
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a style. let me explain one aspect of this concept. you can even with the if you model patient needs go to the opposite types of deletes and with a court corporate and sold a diary below to move the could i and these cheap of cut. but you need best example of a corporate to lead is the british or they charge shipping the products you nearly take a lead company at these people, united by a shared educational background while i am strong, but somewhat psycho by so logical in houston. she don't think the generalized version of eating college, and you still couldn't care less about the countries people that they were to benefit each other to protect their own privilege, to be able to guess all those white masters. let's just look at how those what masters treated for english sailors. i was going forward. a best example of a society was sold into relates, which is the opposite type. is china because it a couple things to consider. it is most slow back in the times of pizza, the great work adults could solar,
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the relief was beginning to form and our country. so let's make these clear. for all viewers, we're talking about officials who genuinely care about the people's interest. yes, however, in the heat, it may sounds just that these officials present light and states most did not season shows as much different from the rest. and so there is the ritual, as well as a bureaucratic aspect of course, move before piece of the great we see rush as a lead included top clergy, but you definitely so between yourself and most definitely it was an example of a solid area that is a little unclear as the anglo saxons and especially that americans. yes. have been raised in the spirit of calvinism or puritanism, which essentially broken the christian tradition lecture by the way, divides people into the chosen ones. and the rest were not chosen. and yet it's not just that they're not chosen to turn to use as rep probate 1st, which means forever allen, a godforsaken, those who have new hope and whose only purpose in life is to serve the elect,
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couldn't certainly, but that's not what we have here. what circling back to some, a business to a self sufficiency, american concept of exceptionalism also includes this idea of being unique. so how was russian some, a business different from american exceptionalism? yeah, doing what you guys think russia and iran you said something in common in those regards. these at least partially structures. this tree includes a successful attempt at creating an expanding spiritual, continue using via video to city, as opposed to the empire as built by the anglo saxons, the french, and so on. she's on what, which meant, colonizing overseas territories, fox, all through the contiguous, empire, e, which means communication. but then it's bold as easy a border did not inside a desire to subjugate and crush conference people's nicole as to meaning you did each of those. sadly, such instances also took place, but it was nowhere near the scale evidence in the envelope sites. some of the
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spanish, portuguese, and pause and so that was that well, but not much for moving you to response. if you put 2 guys of what even though it was that the results of byzantine influence. because the eastern roman empire operated on the same principles, thinking that repression was counter productive, that it was easier to assume in like new subjects on negotiate compromise with them to go to an extent yes most let's go though. one might argue that with the follow up with these on time in par, to here is emerged. but most of the 2nd there was the altima named bar. she has to do is go to the oldest bureaucratic systems of governments from the greeks. where else could they get them getting send the sultan's greek subject 7 cold in by the last? what the many observers have remarked upon russia's uniqueness over this century's score from the carpet. it seems to me that many russians used as a sign of inferiority. a deficiency floodlights issued ships,
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famous lines to russia, cannot be known by the mines, no measured by the common measure. you know, how you can only believe in russia are often quoted the beat of his smoke. well with a beat of condescension or self deprecation lashing and fox i. and so why do you think is that down with us as are your do? i think it has to do with the negative side of the russian traditions of government . really new people who make russia in all seriousness. and this may have and you can be serious about milk or you can be sincere, are most likely, but still without the concept. yes, small create a concept that 2 different things. most likely. there are people who would like to contribute to the development of the lens to explain what feel that they're not allowed to, but that if given a chance that would stop motion, i could use to send it to prison unit. i was able to be doing productive and inspiring work. you kind of it. so i think this is a clash between passions of old solidarity solutions. are they in error to trump,
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they design to and then par initially. and even from china, i chose to present to you it's just the kind of corporate to play a superimposed impulse by piece of the crate. the, the ending pods, like catherine, the 2nd just use the when the empress grants are those freedoms to the nobility. she created a corporate elite for funding products, even though there was also the post solve your period to. and we were happy to embrace that mentality in the last lives that was the latest stage. those are the ones that are in price types, but the majority of people who are simply confused if you have listed many different incidences under russia. there's a fundamental principle in psychology which says that you cannot be fully mature and grow as a person. if you don't accept yourself as a whole without judging yourself too much, or you can sing clear the stage, know where we can begin to accept our sales and pause to bring. yeah, i was still just responding to the west reaction, so they're turning away from us now. well then we'll turn away from them through
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a certain extent. we are responding to the west reaction. you know, at the same time, we haven't yet decided which puts about history to choose as a point of reference to put in which the sun prefer the soviet union to others prefer the russian empire of summer than thinking about russia before each of the great new me, even though the book is all schools, these things need to be harmonized, they should be an understanding of the common thread where store can you buy new and i believe that's what fluctuations in the approaches to building the leads and the methods of the leads education and upbringing is there with all the main sectors, shields, and should be looked into what you've written. that's what defines it. civilization as opposed to country is not just formulating, but leaving its values in the flesh and uses them to stay. police, the civilizations unique way of life and broad a world view. based on these approach, what's legislation says in the world we didn't. oaks used to 3 or 4 main
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civilizations at unfortunately follows from my theory. the far eastern civilization has trying that it's cool, but also includes korea vietnam, especially most vietnam in japan, and maybe something else that you use. and we have the south asian satellite station centered around india currently includes in the ball. and so a lanka ship and used to include most of indo china, it's the cheapest option because you're still sell to a certain extent and indonesia. what do you want me to spend? we have the middle eastern civilization of which there are 2 versions of the big pulse includes the arabic world and jewish culture, which is quite similar to the let the consists of just one. that's nice website is human. they're organized in similar ways though in the wrong e. okay. and lastly, we have the western civilization if i could, if it was, but which also includes us as at least 3 different versions used by me and what, what did anybody on top? there's the mainland european version globally, even a piece key will tend the insular anglo saxon version. we go set goals for more than
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a century. they have not consider themselves europeans to be able to peace and their right, even though they do only when it's huge. that goes yes. on the but the americans comp really consider themselves to be your opinions. and then there is cause you, can you originally even our version these the also adults version, of course they entertain them, publish loan already on to chris jones from each to at the same time. if you look at our resources for so we're similar to china because the chinese once huge country, even though surrounded by country is influenced by its culture. she said, i think what we thought it was, we are a huge country surrounded by people that used to until recently or still share our faith was in the for example, georgians, the bulgarians, romanians, the greeks serves etc. no. then it's noticeable. see that this patterns of how these people sees themselves. so what's the value is they have keep perpetuate being in spite of frequent betrayals by the lead switch happens both here and there
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. there's still this feeling of kinship. so am i get out of this, right? so it's really kind of a hybrid civilization that can boost adaptable, ended coming tides, and also creates something unique. it's difficult more i'd say not really hybrid like europeans. we are a version of it's hard time. we sped up our development to sort of the website, but mostly because the most of the time we have been the referral version. sonya, it's not hard to see why in the pressure is cold, that we left mean she doesn't have a large population. also plus product is lower mutual more so we don't have that much to offer to the leads so that they can develop various forms of culture and with this but still when we decided to how to go it, it's in earnest. good. just look at the results, we can easily consider mathematics and music to be the highest achievements of european culture, although many will disagree with me here. 16 o scope, the russian mathematical school in russian music are truly extraordinary. where a 2nd to none, here, waiting some over here, but we have to take
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a very short break right now, but we'll be back in just a few moments fits you and the question i mean you love seeing those little muscles do. if you look on the visual do, while i pull up significantly post on zillow already be almost getting used to put value when you do oil change. but you also still, this is done the newest frame on the belief system. so good lou, do what i see on these the buses. the little cute little dyson says this done both of
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the both and back to was a part with on the day putting bulk one of prussia supposed to be announced. colors of the east of the senior research or when the people's friendship, university of russia village. mr. perry bulk, in the 1st part of the program, will discuss the diversity of civilization. so you read that almost all of them emerge during the so called act c o age, where very easy to use a term coined by called jasper's whom you heard maya. if the premiums were talking about the period and as of 2500 years ago, you would take 2 full centuries. i'm curious to know what's in your opinion, makes
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a me run an axial age. and could we be currently living through one foot bureau? it's no more what i think makes it an actual age, is the crisis of what i would call by battery and is, should by trip to the side, this is my usage of the term. or you could mean something different from a child that also is called up by right and is specifically see by them. there were too many different professions to many people. and some of the greater wealth due to natural growth will stop in the old forms of social organization or so. but it's sort of which has to be mostly based on family ties were no longer effective. postpone them really cool and the people no longer perceived each other naturally as legitimate human beings. what do you mind doing? get pulled up so maybe what do you do is nonsense, much of your own dot. i'm not going to allow my daughter to marry your son if i think that your work is nonsensical, eat the rest from different cultures, or rather, to pre civilizational, but quite advanced societies. this plus the options to came up with different
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solutions for cementing the cultural integrity. cheated with quinn, totally easy in store, but it's mostly talking about the acknowledgment of the value of each of those mines scales and so on. because without that, to cut even share it religions plug into it. and so it came to pass that in the worst, what cemented society was thinking together to mean to, we shouldn't push up to something that the greeks called logos. and then it's a little ratio. reason to uh, what i was getting to it was helps evaluation 1st homes through a very complex and symbolic rituals, really about the widow. but the website is that it's been a while, but so you choose, we certainly leaned into a very acute powers of observation. much in the e, you've got a piece, an important your opinion, and then there are of the european elite is the thinking man in the middle east is still getting together is also important to us. what you buy from the mess is more then the content of your thinking is the role of the person who expresses the
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judgment through it. the more store which goes away to the source with us, all law who the me least and gold company, not all the gold of the jews as someone who's judgment you for you. and then the form of revelations is absolute authority and cannot be challenged. the purely european structure manages without such a golden that'll go to thinking like and the restore those works. this brings me a right to my next question, was that you claim that an advantage or a unique feature of russia is subordinates with, by his sense of spiritual community for the state of inactive thinking together to this isn't even hard a concept to express in english really, maybe i could explain it in more acceptable terms. and most importantly, what does it give us? the bill i recently read a colleagues article where it is argues that the word subordinate was coined in the russian translation of his level file out of scope pieces. originally written in french textbooks, split up, i don't know what the original french word was. i'm just not maybe coming young.
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you're definitely not community. i don't know for sure. i forget to see the civilizational solution worked out in russia, which we can call subordinates, but the faith is, in my opinion as follows. the admin noise, the couple of thoughts on those thinking, cool, we see leads for it understands you develops and supports the ideas of a civilization. right. but usually it's mostly done. the civil is i'd say other people are involved as well. knew the actually a logically and emotionally completed so many of whom are incapable of independence . thoughts move, you coupling your special but who can relate to the values reflects invest, thinking, coupled as i'd say that mostly in you. what 3. so in the traditional version, the russian civilization, the, for the modem era, there that kind of this phenomenon was represented by the liturgy who died in the position. i am a sudden yesterday that is regular joint practice, encouraged and motivated people to perceive each other as kindred beings. school
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next subley. but am very interested in young's dep psychology which in essence studies the collective unconscious. what religion calls god the source of enjoyment and just concerns that i had to bring them to a. i mean, i think that in this respect, i assume that russia means more towards the collective, unconscious photo connectivity. the way in this, i like to know in the soon, every individual so was invested in the big collective psyche of the west. on the other hand, is more individualistic in use a butterflies to paraphrase nature, god is constantly being illuminated. so the collective aspect is removed, well, can only agreeing parts from the belief. if we talk about the essence of god's cock it is definitely not. i'm conscious of box weighs. what is super conscious and that can use the 3 of those. and like i said, i was pretty so i might have to write or trans personal for something that's bigger
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than human nature was bigger than the individual postpone. or if i'd like to share my personal opinion and see what you think. yep. and it goes to what i believes it, any ideology, any civilization that changes in humans or the consciousness is due to the process because the human mind simply comp handle this massive burden in uh, got it. so i skipped the human mind is incapable of existing in complete disregard of that on a watch, a minute from this name is access. i was not able to access the, but this was an attribute of the soviet project. well, my question is about the western civilization, but it was kaiser you see the rejects these aspects of it. yeah. so i'd like to know i wouldn't be able to do through transformation without crashing and with the soviet union scenario you had to move in yet. no, i don't think so difficult. i would even say definitely not to start. it says
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customer does crash, but these amended symbol even from the demographic standpoint, he's a child pre philosophy as well as other tents. adults are natural, biology and impede essential rep production will lead to elimination, the love shape more. generally, these trend dualism towards individual isn't that what's the will as go into turn? what used to be a society given sheets into groups of like charges that repel each other just when you moved, you know that there will be no societies but and i guess these benefits some malicious center, malicious corporate delete that wants to control everyone else that's, that's what i think it basically, it's about consciously turning people into some unconsciousness, which can be easily controlled. yes. those who want to do so, and there are definitely such people around are consistently story consciously built in the system. once he says human, it's made this very interesting point. put another western civilizations definition
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of progress. it differs greatly from the way all the civilizations understand it. could you elaborate more than that, please? what was happening? well, the western civilization is diverse, which did we spend almost 2 centuries ago. hazelton made fun of the idea of incident progress, both quantitative and qualitative. for some reason, especially in the american way of thinking, there must be more of everything or everything should be must produced. when asked why the advocates of such values usually find themselves nonplussed, goes on. who would have thought of that other very until the progress of sales represented by the us a saw perform a good variance if not a complete one, which was not helping out nourishing the upper parts of the population. the most developed the most talented, the most persistent one, mcgruther in pulling up the lower parts or no speech and the use a solid sheets colossal results in that. so either way, that the best way would be to combine the 2 approaches progress the way it is seen by the indian civilization or chinese or
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a pro agents are less ation is not expressed as vividly. and it's doubtful that it can be directly translated. sorry for jump in in the timing of those cultures and civilizations. you mentioned also have this very explicit idea of balance and understanding the too much of an a thing is it has a burden too much of edison is not good because it's kind of a distraction from things that are more important and valuable. yeah, of course. so any over development is dangerous. there's an old chinese story story about a man who invented something that you know, colon aircraft to what the fluid showed his invention to the emperor and the emperor assigned to the man in order these execution. because you and pro realized you wouldn't be able to manage this invention. um you wrote recently that, that suggesting of russia become a normal country. as the 1st post soviet administer for relations. one state is as ridiculous a suggestion of bribes. the talented person become, become an average. joe, who eats, sleeps, and water is little about any of the rays of creation are new. so if we take
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a look at china, which also define as a worldly historical civilization, it is upset. but one thing it has made great efforts is to help its people to me and people in other countries which have a decent quality of life and what the best for us 3 desktops. and of course, i don't think the chinese culture piece, dignity against, well, for these 2 things, are all the seen is complimentary move in it. it doesn't rusher really need to see . well, that's something that contradicts its unique identity list. you know, i think this opposition is very harmful way that i can also close mom a lot of from dusta yesterday. me a lot of us bullets these notes advice, cancer, but bigger is a look at that. still. also, we must draw up on the soviet experience and raise the lower classes to a decent level of existence with task you, which usually a slight decent material level of existence, new material,
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and the best. if i look further, if it doesn't help to spend their money, i maybe have some issues, but it's all kinds of nonsense for sure. you don't do. not in those jolts you travel to put your fist if there's a trivial people. that of course, they should not be happening, it will condition those, they should be no deficit. of course, those thoughts are what was on which was for the other things that you maybe i am an a person in the initial just the think that people should be educated in such a way that they can at least ask themselves. i have all the necessary things you choose, so i can send my child to kindergarten. i have the money to hire a babysitter, but with my wife and i can go on vacation here and there. so i'm getting shift. so do i really, really need anything else with those that are deal should distinguish between standard of living and quality of life? even the standard of living is obviously determined by how much money you have with them. cuz choosing us for quality of life, it depends on how much time do you have to spend at your own discretions. we will
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please where the in, you go to a certain level of an increase in the standard of living for you. the leads to an increase in the quality of life from another student, even less time to provide that for everyone more or less sense of couple except maybe 10 percent who are genetically and capable of productive work. who will always have that level because people are different now the so then the must explain to everyone that they can increase the standard of living. so does it cost? no gosh, the quality of life will either freeze or pour go down the richest people, spend huge money on ties your old send to like the key, the old in russia. but almost where you can expect to find remnants of the new will reach mentality over the ninety's, but everywhere and it's absurd. yeah, we're almost out of time ventures are, which i'd like to ask one last question along here. many cultures, or if it's how they claim to be civilized, ation doesn't make a distinction between doing and be in the tip and being is not the same as having
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a high quality of life. the reward is something else, but maybe i find that fascinating thought, i think it's one of those things like subordinate me suction audit can be hard to explain to west in person. that was, what do you think is the difference between having a high quality of life and being or dusted in the high quality of life? the reason for my definitions is evans, a necessary conditions on those emotions in terms of the number of hours available in the week. that the list of all taken being who is it, which is because i, for the, for, i would say to be conscious of your existence and paul take in the transcendent, and it's just those things you incentive if you're also dogs. that means one thing . if you're boldest, that means another. uh, if you're a stoic meeting or a no flaps most, it's something else. but without it, you're essentially so monday in person, we should start on some bound to this world to start on. yes, it's just the $180.00. have some brain, you will feel,
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however vaguely when we start such a mundane, existence is absolutely meaningless, absolutely distinguish. okay, so this reminds me of some of the culture. both it's kind of makes sense that we have so many is only movies today. for zombies, a people or human like creatures that woke and each they're not really touch with life or stuff like that. anyway, this has been very interesting, but it's time to wrap it up. so thank you so much for coming. thank you for the conversation. well, that's all we have time for. thank you for watching. i hope to hear again. and it was
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