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you have to shape out the application and engagement equals betrayals. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground the the us hello, come to our 2 exclusive interview. i'm a so so again, today joined by about so there are now 2 because who's a member of parliament from c, h, b, and chief foreign policy advisor to one of the prominent presidents candidates of to kid who's there to market a shuttle important on the line that and then b a k b government for, and that is what i mean a when i say that before impulse institutionalization of foreign policy means the mutual fund. it says to be the, again, become a very important the dynamic and elements for the, for them policy formulation and making. and certainly as far as the for them for

this implementation is concerned. when it would that are problems, say you upgrade to levels starting from the ministry and then going to the other levels a but to get into a can be government unfortunately. and the other level was always the domain in one and to the president and his office and tried to maintain a phone relations with other countries. this is what they mean when we say that a institutionalization of foreign policy there will be made certain in that aspect is of course the different policy of turkey after the elections under the new governments. they will be based on peaceful resolution of the conflicts and also the use of diplomatic language. if there will be a change in a way you explained to us right now, will the new approach be radical or different from to, to use current policy towards russia towards the should, there won't be any serious change because it, i shall enter key whether they're long history and they haven't really a stablish state experience,

and that's the reason why i don't think that there will be any change as far as the took expression relations that close at the state to state your nations will certainly continue, but the ministries are for and it says you will become a perhaps more communicative and then of course uh i understand that it has been put in and present the other one has very good to buy that the really since an immediate now. so the elections, i'm sure that the new president is the tim, i publish that all of your also establish very with and cordial relations with as inputs in a. but of course, this does not mean that they're going to resolve all the problems at the presidential level. and we simply expect that's a, the state experience of both countries. we have have us to institutionalize our bilateral relations. and presidents function from both sides will be of course, the detach the very last moment and it will be the company most the case. talking

about the foreign policy. of course, syria is at the top of the agenda of both what you hear in russia. so if can montclair, start all the winds? how much can to countries policy towards syria and this military operation and i'm not in syria change. is it possible that the turkish troops could be completely withdrawn? you know that according to the official figures, we have around $4000000.00 syrians who are under temporary protection step is in turkey, and legion that's referred to them as effigies. because according to the geneva convention of 1951, you know that turkey has a geographical reservation. and that's the reason why it's very difficult for us to refer to the syrians in our country as they are coming from the east of hours eh, eh, geography, and they cannot be referred to as a refugee. but those syrians, of course, uh i, and one of the main reasons why

a we have to establish immediately after the directions direct dialogue with them asks this dialogue is important between on could and damascus. because uh, can i push that over his time? and again, several times mentioned that a v will allow the syrians to go back to their country and this will happen on each state. is it that are between on to the end the month? because of course, there are certain steps which have to be covered at 1st the data across the stats. and then in the thirty's business, people are expected to make a serious investments in syria. and because of a request section and rehabilitation in the city instead of 30 is necessary, the country has been devastated because of the civil war. and then of course of these investments, we also create the sustainability conditions for the city as we chose to return to the countries as far as education eh, possibilities for the children that concerned job opportunities that concerns health facilities, atlas. and so from this point of view,

this sustainability is very important. there's also another aspect, the turkey cannot afford this all by itself. that's the reason why, expecting a very serious international sort of diet and that burden shank, particularly a expectedly to come from a european union and united nations, the united nations development program u. n. d p. and all these will help us to allow the syrians to go back to the country and they choose to do so. i find out the issue that i want to mention here is, is certainly, and during the dialogue 50 a damascus. we also have to be assured that the o c as will go back to the country, we will not be prosecutes. then this is only about some of if we haven't dialed between on put in damascus. i think it is also important on the line here that there are certain mechanisms which allow the 2 countries to develop fluid joined to

combat against that or is and i'm referring to the identify typical of 1998, which has been revised in 2011 and i think president clinton has the, as several, okay, on several occasions. mentioned the importance of the protocol between turkey and syria. eh, if a turkey and syria, a can come to an understand going to establish border security. and even the 3rd key does not receive anymore, terrorist fits from the syrian territory. and then of course it. so it'd be perhaps possible to talk about the, a role of the 30. she forces on the cd and 30, but this may only become often dv assurance that the key would get from the city and government that there wouldn't be any danger emanating from syria against turkeys interests. there is no a political discourse in to see, especially in the position syrians do to earn home. and i'm sick and watch crushed

at all. it has a different speeches. he said we will send them back maximum within 2 years. so what is your uh, for portion of, uh, moving this, i mean, will the syrians moving into k at have their own genesis if they want to go or stay into care? or you will have a strict policy of sending them because this is what the president can to discover state all the states. if his grade quite clear that the, the leader to 5 items that chemically settled his nation, that they will be going back in, you know, that's of 2 years. and now of course, there are certain, uh, syrians who have a quiet talk of citizenship. and that as a round, so, so 100000 children who are born in turkey and a those who, who are having to take your citizenship and they who have been integrated into the turkish, let's see, going to make

a living key. and so i see when i mix structures and may choose to remain in turkey because they had acquired that the citizenship and referring to those who have not required to add to your citizenship. but those who haven't glad to. okay. citizenship, i've a only about so if you 100000 something like that, that's what you hear from the official as sources or cities and why i am returning to that is e, as in general. so kim michael shuttle has issued numerous calls for to k. you around or rec, and syria actually to come together. how can this be achieved, provided that those countries interest, diverge greatly on serial number of issues. thank you for asking this question because it will give me a fortune to, to, to explain what the mean it this project it is a congenital defect to as the me the least, the punishment corporation, the organization which has insure the 3rd to as medical orientation is it or to

do, but it should be, it should be lead basically that they, which is, will be in the acronyms. now a, all these 4 countries actually being seriously affected because of 2 important phenomena. which i prevailing key now, geography. and the 1st is international terrorism, and the 2nd one is migration. so these 2 phenomena are very much it intelligent, is a destination country, a particularly for my the ones that are coming from i finished on the rock and syria is source countries because so many serious have left their country. rockies also do you do, can see, but that also can be also considered as that transition country and turkey is a destination country. so all these 4 countries being effective because of 2 feet, not 2 important phenomena in the geography. what perhaps need to get together and to find it come on the platform where they can talk these issues. and that's the

reason why a vi proposing this project, the project today just to as medical. and if these 4 countries get together and establish a kind of an coming understanding about how to address these issues, i think it will be a basis for it. so the corporation in the middle east, in general, certainly this project does not fix the other partners or other countries in the regions, whether it is not excluding. there's not even need to know that there's either a, i know that there is so many international raptors or international organizations who have also an important role to play in that kind of project. so this is a project that the probably going to put into action immediately after the elections. and the view will certainly reach out to eat on the rock and syria and explaining how we can and develop this project that i referred to as the me, the lease. but there's been corporation organization and need to question how,

what uh, picture of mr. jim mind custodial effect if he wins the relations between the 2 key and the rest on nato is on current expected to ease its position. that own sweetens potential accession to nato may as a simply to, to your if a question that or you don't have any if you know mind. so the believe that on the 14th of may, can my police though is going to win the elections. a heading said, does i think a, of course turkey does not make any distinction between the east and west and turkeys fully a bond of and to is in compliance with the commitments that he has taken sofa. one of those commitments is, of course, uh, the membership in native turkey has been a member of nato. uh since 1952 and so it is more than 70 is already. and this is a very important identity of techie. but the, let me also remind you that a, during the cold water, for example,

in spite of the fact that turkey a was a member of nato to he had very goods, the nation service for most of the junior. so turkey's, for them policy a, in a balanced approach, does not make any distinction between a, it's a western allies and its eastern neighbors. in fact, both screw geography is complimentary, a with one another. and 2 key from this point of view has a very important the so these are a geography and this location used to keep the advantage at the vehicle a distance to all these actors around itself. but there's not going to be any change in our relations to be trasha after the elections. and there's not going to be change here in relations with nato, and i'm sure, or the new government at present because that will be a very keen to maintain this balance for them. policy a con, that's it. ok,

an engineer right in front of us as part of the swedish member shifting a to is consent. you know that last year there was a lot to remember and then we 1st signed in methods and it took us complaining because of the behavioral finland as reason. and, and it's a reaction to it gives you action was used to attitudes of these 2 countries to peek a terrorism at some progress has been made and the few months has become a member of nato. and it took a sugar and nationalism get approved that. and i think sweden also made some progress at the beginning of this year. they changed their constitution. and this, i think with the 1st of june, this year in new lo fi would be put into implementation and on combat against terrorism. so all these actually showed that the sweden is also willing to make some progress and to ease it the difficulties between sweden and turkey and to

respect to the sensitivities of turkey. so he to be a, up to the new parliament after the elections. and if the new find the ones that need to new the few that to so we didn't, has made enough progress and said we need to have a look at it from a more positive plane. so if you can start all also calls for a roommate before the informations with a restaurant comes. she's canter care, combine, refresh month with the rest while of this thing for him on his core principles. the coping symbols of the case put in policy is peace and a good neighbor relations with our neighbors and the non intervention into the domestic affairs of other countries. and it became a very important, honest broker or the facilitators in resolving conflicts. now all these a basic, but i mean there's and main principles, so they will remain and that they will become the main part, i mean, because of the pitch for them policy. so there is no contradiction to the end to it

is possible, of course, to expend a, the, for them policy implementation of turkey based on these principles. and i think a, this is going to be probably the main change because the current government unfortunately has neglected some of these principles. what do i mean like that? and for example, the money into the nation into domestic affairs of neighboring countries is not being applied during the, during the, a, b, a k people in the last 20 years. that has been a deviation from this principle of the eh, to just for i'm policy and other deviation has also occurred in as far as impartiality is concerned. because it's the case that to, to take sides in the regional conflicts. and because it is something that he has inherited from what that does, it is always said that we should nothing to lean into the domestic affairs of our neighbors in the middle east and say whenever there's

a conflict issues and take sides and hang on to a conflicting that those, these 2 principles have been neglected, and serious to violate, to the, under the people. this is going to change and it's going to put into practice again . and to that they'll be the main basic approach of the 30 for them 1st after the elections. can you refer to the specific examples of what yours, you know, like, don't enter intervention to domestic affairs. do you mean syria and taking sides issue? do you mean those are vision and i mean, you know, as, i mean, i mean is nothing. the question here. i think the most to 2nd example of course could be syria. and because, uh, it is obvious that the, i from the outset a, b, a k, if you go on a 2 sides and the, you know, a position itself against a damascus and against the us at the administration. i think that it appeared and it was perceived as a very serious innovation to be the mystic effects. would egypt be one of your

examples? also? i don't think so because jackie has not interviewed into the domestic phase, but often what has happened in 2013 and then f isn't more c a was, you know, a and dismissed from his position by a meter to be a cool a. then there was a reaction of the acute be government eh, that was not an innovation into domestic affairs, but it was a position which in a way, a interrupted the diplomatic relations between 30 in egypt for so many years. and i'm sure many people, and many political scientists admit that this intended option and to downgrading off the relations between egypt and the key from an investor dirty level to ensure that if any of them has cost, it took a lot particularly in the eastern mediterranean and what's done so tricky, hold regarding the cranium crisis during his administration and you as

a foreign policy advisor. do think that a real on could be able to make a break breakthrough in the mediation process? i think at the new government after the elections, we have continued to become an honest broker and to the extent that it is possible at all or mediation. and it'll officially occasionally certainly continue because this is a very important that vantage of therapy foreign policy. turkey has been a a using that kind of federal in many joe ref. he's a 2nd from my spanish down for example. or in the balkans became was the answer the in the past. then again into african hold on, for example, between is somebody a and that a cube each of you and $83.00 x it's a. so this is a practice that the book is deeply unless he has a class in so many years. and this certainly has to continue in the example of ukraine a, i think it is important for our own security because

a turkey sit around that fits so many hot conflicts and media in atlanta has and others, the escalation in the black sea basin because black sea basin is a very peculiar geography and table if you clean and russia are our neighbors. and certainly in the next couple of months after the elections, we will continue all the deliberate ations we should be in conduct the sofa in terms of perhaps a t shooting the sustainability of the green deal. uh, certainly a to facilitate the contacts between key of and moscow. so that the, you know, that we have also issued some kind, it's a prisoner's exchange in the past between the 2 countries. and these efforts will certainly continue. and of course, so a less than piece has to be brought to the black sea basin and to northern neighbors. at all. these of course will be our for premier tivitz after the election. is there any of course of our tool during the foreign ministry?

no, i didn't say anything key about that said, but all these issues going to be suddenly decided after the elections. are you one of the candidates to be in the foreign jeep? i have not heard this a domestic policy question. if you want to turn back to fund them into a system from the presidential one, if you can do it, what would that theme for this domestic public politics? i mean, what would be the benefits change in 2017, after the, if at random from the parliamentary system into the presidential system has a created a very serious are set back in terms of separation of powers in terms of the flaw. because under the system is that the current, the implementing a, the executive authority is dominating and it has an on newport power over the legislative and the judiciary. and this is contradictory to

a democratic understanding of separation of powers. this has to change and that is the reason why the 6 parties and nation and lions have come forward with the idea of the sinks and find them into the democracy. it's thanks and in the sense that it is not going to be as that's a school on it. so in that the turn to the back, a of the, a deal to put them into the system. it will be simply a new kind of an understanding reach for and hence the functioning of the separation of powers and be true, and hence the role of the parliament a but there will be of colors. and ben is the approach between the a 3 important authorities, the executive, legislative and distribution. now certainly a ones, distance formation face to face rule of what we're premier in the country, a all kinds of fundamental and basic rights and freedoms will, of course be enjoyed. and they will not be and only important domination over the legislative body and over did you additionally,

this is very important that i think it is important for the democracy and democratization of the country. people are very much, it is binding to achieve that kind of a democratic took. excellent parts of government refers to the class of the prime minister and the president's interest us history, which caused a very big economy prices for 2 to you at the beginning of in the beginning of the 2, thousands the do you have any hesitation that the same unfortunate experience for to care can be repeated. i don't think so because there will be certain employment safety mechanisms which will be interviews with this thing from the parliamentary system. and for example, one second example is as far as the annual budget to the control and the budget or accounting is concerned, it will be a special committee. it is truly established and it is the intention of the nation

at lines to assign a someone from the position a to the c h a person position of that committee. so this is actually a create and get a democratic understanding and the many new mechanisms will be introduced to ensure the a small functioning of the legislative. and if that is the approach between the legislative and executive as some past examples of course, are the in history. but the, the, and that's a going to happen. and they can only be understood as individual examples, which cannot be considered as a kind of a, a permanent they repeat stripping, repeating possibilities. yeah, that was my final question about southern non chevy coast. thank you very much for your participation. i thank you very much. and the form i diplomat to i started my career is in moscow more than 40 years ago in the soviet union. and the, i have very good feelings about russia,

the russian culture and the russian literatures. so may i also take this opportunity to send my best greetings to the restroom? people thank you very much and bye for now. the one thing on the page to collaboration classic, what is the best thing move on to the identify them? this is on the pacific to offset this wonderfully complicated. i like the lady's name for the police know what actually school for carbonate for backwards by son. same as somebody must give me ports to me and cut off the stuff that isn't most interested in logical really gardner's ok, thanks dear to what you just said. you suggest. so i'm using menu. remember, you don't can be come loose until you come to somebody and you come to the thief,

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