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job. i mean, with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody with theme and the robot most protect this phone. existence was on the us. welcome to our 2 exclusive interview. i'm a so, so again, today joined by about so there are now 2 because who's a member of parliament from c, h, b, and chief foreign policy advisor to one of the prominent presidents candidates of to kia who's there to market his federal hello and welcome to the show. thank you very much. let's get into the topic as one of the most senior former diplomats in the position alliance. i want to talk about what's tickets for and policy will look like. they're a coach general the administration in
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a recent interview you could decides to keeps current for a policy for being based on leadership diplomacy. and you said that this would be corrected with institution building. can you expand the statement? what did you mean? actually? thank you very much for this question. first of all, i think it is important to underline that. and then b a k, b government for the last 20 is institutionalization, has been serious and neglected not only in foreign policy, but in whole levels. and in all aspects, and for the ministry as far as the implementation of foreign policy is close and has been an unfortunate the sidelines. and that is what i mean a when i say that different policy, they will be institutionalized, institutionalization of foreign policy means the mutual for an f s p. the again become a very important the dynamic and elements for the, for them policy formulation and making. and certainly as far as the phone and
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policy implementation is consent, when it would that are problems, say you upgrade the levels that came from the ministry and then going to the other levels a but to get into a could be government. unfortunately, at the other level was always the domain implant and to the president and his office and tried to maintain it for relations with other countries. this is what they mean when we say that a institutionalization of for them policy that will be made. 70 and other aspect is of course the different policy of turkey after the elections under the new government to be based on peaceful resolution of the conflicts. and also the use of diplomatic language, if there will be a change in a way you explain to us right now, will the new approach be radically different from 2 tiers current policy towards russia towards the should that won't be any serious change because it, i shouldn't enter key heather they to long history and they haven't really
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established state experience. and that's the reason why i don't think that there will be any change as far as the took possession relations across that state to state your nations will certainly continue. but the ministries of foreign affairs will become perhaps more communicative. and then of course, i understand that it has been put in and present the other one has very good to my that the regulations immediately after the elections, i'm sure that the new president just came out of college that already also established very with and cordial relations. with president for 10 a, but of course this does not mean that they're going to resolve all the problems at the presidential level. and we simply expect that's a, the state experience of both countries. we have have us to institutionalize our bilateral relations and business function and from both sides. we'd be of course, the detach the very last moment and it will be the topping of the case. talking
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about the foreign policy. of course, syria is at the top of the agenda of both what you hear in russia. so it can montclair, start all the winds. how much can to countries policy towards syria and it's military operation and i'm not in syria change. is it possible that the trick is troops could be completely withdrawn? you know that according to the official figures, we have around 4000000 syrians, who on the temporary protection status into t. a legion that's referred to them as an ethic. jeez. because according to the geneva convention of 1951, you know that turkey has a geographical reservation. and that's the reason why it's very difficult for us to refer to the syrians in our country as they are coming from the east of our geography. and they can not be put through as images. but those syrians, of course, uh i, and one of the main reasons why
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a we have to establish immediately after the directions direct dialogue with them asks. this dialogue is important between on could and the mosque was because uh, can i push that over has time. and again, several times mentioned that a v will allow the syrians to go back to the country and this will happen on and if there is a battle between on to the end, the mosque was, of course there are certain steps we shift to be covered at 1st the data, okay, so the stats and then in the thirty's business, people expect it to make a serious investments in syria. and because of a request section and rehabilitation in the city and territory is necessary. the country has been devastated because of the civil war. and then of course, these investments, we also create the sustainability conditions for the city as we chose to return to their countries. as far as education, eh, possibilities for the children that concern, job opportunities that concerns health facilities that percent. so from this point
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of view, this sustainability is very important. there's also another aspect that so he cannot afford this all by itself. that's the reason why we are expecting a very serious international solidarity. and that birthday shifting, particularly a expectedly to come from a european union at the united nations, the united nations development program, u. n d p. and all these really help us to el, so this he has to go back to the country and they choose to do so and find out the issue that i want to mention here is, is certainly, and during the dialogue with a damascus, we also have to be assured that the syrians who go back to the country will not be persecutes, then this is only about some of you have a dialogue between and put in it that much. because i think it is also important to underline here that there are certain mechanisms which allow the 2 countries to
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develop fluid joined to combat against that or isn't i'm referring to the i've done it for a typical of 1998, which has been revised in 2011 and i think present booking has the as several, okay, on several occasions mentioned the importance of the protocol between turkey and syria. and if a turkey and syria a can come to an understanding to establish border security. and even though a key does not receive anymore, terrorist fits from the syrian territory. and then of course it's, it would be perhaps possible to talk about the, a role of the 30. she forces on to see the entire thing. but this may only become often degree assurance that the key would get from the city and government that there wouldn't be any danger emanating from syria against the keys interests. there is no a political discourse uh, interesting,
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especially in the position syrians due to and home. and i'm so you can watch published at all, it has a different speeches. he said we will send them back maximum within 2 years. so what is your portion of moving this? i mean, will the syrians moving into k have their own chances if they want to go or stay into care, or you will have a strict policy of sending dennis coast, this is what the president candidates, calisto, the size it is a quite clear that the, the leader will 5, but i can just that can michael, is that all the has nation that they will be going back in, you know, that's of 2 years. and now of course, there are certain, uh, syrians who have a quiet turkish citizenship. and that as a at around so, so a $100000.00 children who are born in turkey and a, those who, who have the, took your citizenship and they who have been integrated into the turkish,
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let's say you're going to make a living key. and so, so you're going to make structures and they choose to remain in turkey because they have a quiet that the citizenship and referring to those who have not required to it or just that the mission. but those who haven't collect, okay, citizenship, i the only about so if you 100000 something like that, that's what we hear from the official as sources. or that's the reason why i'm referring to that is c, as in general. so can michael the shuttle that has issued numerous calls for to create your own rock and syria, actually to come together. how can this be achieved, provided that those countries interest, diverge greatly on serial number of issues. thank you for asking this question because it will give me a fortune to, to, to explain what the mean it this project it is a, in generally referred to as the me, the least, the punishment corporation, a organization which is
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a short meeting for to as medical orientation as the or the do, but it should be, it should be lead fishkill out there, which is, will be in acronyms. now a, all these 4 countries are actually being seriously affected because of 2 important phenomena, which i prevailing key now, geography. and the 1st is international terrorism, and the 2nd one is migration. so these 2 phenomena are very much it intelligent. a, it is a destination country, a particularly for my goodness, the coming from spanish done rock and syria is source countries because so many serious have left their country. their axes also do you do can see, but that also can me also consider it as it turns asian country and turkey is a destination country. so all these 4 countries being effective because of to say not to important phenomena and geography with their helps need to get together and a find a come on the platform where they can talk these issues. and that's the reason why
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a vi proposing this project. the project today just to as medical and if these 4 countries get together and establish a kind of an coming understanding about how to address these issues. i think it will be a basis for it. so the cooperation in the middle east, in general, certainly this project does not exclude other partners or other countries in the region, but he does not excluding other non regional raptors either. i know that there are so many international raptors or international organizations who have also an important role to play in that kind of project. so this is a project that the probably going to put into action immediately after the elections. and the view will certainly reach out to eat on the rock and syria and explaining how we can and develop this project that i referred to as the me the lease. but there's been corporation organization and nature question. how would
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victor of mr. jim? i've custodial effect if he wins the relations between the 2 key and the rest on middle east, on credit, expected to ease its position. that own sweetens potential accession to nato mash is simply to, to your if a question that are you don't have any if you know mind. so the believe that on the 14th of may, can my police though he's going to win the elections. and having said this, i think a, of course, turkey does not make any distinction between the east and west and turkeys fully a bound. uh and the is in compliance with the commitments that because they can sofa. one of those commitments is of course, uh the membership in native therapy has been a member of nato. uh since 1952 and so it is more than 70 is already. and this is a really important identity of turkey. uh, but the,
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let me also remind you that a, during the cold water, for example, in spite of the fact that turkey a was a member of nato took, he had very good the nation. so does it for my son. he's a junior, so turkeys for them. policy a in a balanced approach, does not make any distinction between a, it's a western allies and it's eastern neighbors. in fact, for school geographies are complementary a with one in addition. and to keep from this point of view or has a very important, there's so basic, a geography and this location gives to keep the advantage and to be quite distant to all these actors around itself. but there's not going to be any change it, you know, relations to be trasha after the elections. and there's not going to be change here in relations with nato, and i'm sure, or the new government then present the colors that all of it will be a very keen to maintain this balance for them. policy a going back to an engineer right in front of us as part of the swedish member
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shift tonight to is consent to you know, that last year there was a lot to remember and which was signed in methods. and it took us complaining because of the behavior of finland as reason. and it's a reaction to it gives the action was used to attitudes of these 2 countries to peek into terrorism. at some progress has been made and the few months has become a member of nato. the end that took a sheer grand national assembly approved that the i think sweden also made some progress at the beginning of this year. they changed their constitution. and this i think with the 1st of june this year in new low feel would be put into implementation and on combat against terrorism. so all these actually showed that the sweden is also willing to make some progress and to ease it the difficulties
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between speed and the enter key and to respect to the sensitivities of turkey. so he to be a, up to the new parliament after the elections. and if the new find the ones that need to be the few that to so we can, has made enough progress as said, we need to have a look at it from a more positive points of view. will also calls for a room and the 4 digit relations with a restaurant. countries can trickier combine refreshment with the rest while a staying for on the score principles. the corporate symbols of done controlled and policy is peace and a good neighborhood relations with our neighbors. and the non intervention into the domestic affairs of other countries. and it became a very important, honest broker or to facilitate those in resolving conflicts. now, all these a basic parameters and main principles, so they will remain and that they will become the main part. i mean,
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because of the pitch for them policy. so there is no contradiction that and the it is possible, of course, to expend a, the, for them policy implementation of turkey based on these principles. and i think a, this is going to be probably the main change because the current government unfortunately has neglected some of these principles. what do i mean like that? a, for example, the money into invention into domestic affairs of neighboring countries is not being applied to doing made during the d a k people in the last 20 years. that has been a deviation from this principle of the a to just for him policy and other the nation has also killed in as far as impartiality is concerned, because the jerk is that to take sides in the regional conflicts. and because it is something that we have inherited from the to others, as has already said that we should not be intervening to the domestic affairs of our neighbors in the middle east. and so whenever there's a conflict,
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you shouldn't take sides and came on to a conflict in factors. these 2 principles have been neglected and serious to violate, to the under the people. this is going to change and it's going to put into practice again and said that they'll be the main basic approach of the focus for them 1st after the elections, january for to the specific examples of what you were saying. like, don't mean to intervention to domestic affairs. do you mean syria and taking sides issue? do you mean those are vision and i mean, you know, as, i mean, i mean is nothing. the question here. i think the most, the 2nd example of course could be syria. and because it is obvious that, that i from the outset be a, keep you go on a 2 sides and to, you know, a position itself against a damascus against the us at the administration. i think that appeared at the 1st
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perceived as a very serious innovation, typically a mystic effects. would egypt be one of your examples? also? i don't think so because turkey has nothing intervened into the domestic phase. but after what has happened in 2013, when f isn't more c a, it was in a way and dismissed from his position by a meter. to be a cool, eh, then there was a reaction of the government that was not an intervention to domestic, if as well, it was a position which in a way, a interrupted the diplomatic relations between turkey and egypt for so many years. and i am sure many people and many political scientists admit that this interruption and faith downgrading goes to relations between egypt and the key from an investor dirty level to ensure that if any of them has caustic, took a lot particularly in the eastern mediterranean. and what's dense, real tricky, holt, regarding the cranium crisis during his administration. and you as
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a for impulse advisor, do think that a real anchor be able to make a break break through in the mediation process? i think the, the new government, after the elections survey are continued to become an honest broker and to the extent that it is possible at all or mediation. and it'll officially occasionally certainly continue because this is a very important advantage of turkish foreign policy. turkey has been a, a, using that kind of a role in many, jo, or if he's a 2nd from afghanistan, for example, or into both kinds became was the answer the in the past. then again in the african horn, for example, would be being is somebody a and a cube. yeah. if you, if you and 83 exits. so this is a practice that the focused diplomacy has a class in so many years. and this certainly has to continue in the example of ukraine a, i think it is important for our own security because
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a turkey is around that fits so i mean, you have to conflicts and media in atlanta has and others, the escalation in the black sea bass and because black sea basin is a very peculiar geography, and they both ukraine and russia are our neighbors. and certainly in the next couple of months after the elections, we will continue all the deliberate ations we should be in conduct the sofa in terms of perhaps a t shooting the sustainability of degree on deals. uh secondly, its assessing the date, a contacts between kia of and moscow. so that the, you know, that we have also achieved some kind, it's a prisoner's exchange in the past between the 2 countries. and these efforts will certainly continue. and of course, so a lasting piece has to be brought to the black sea basin and to northern neighbors . at all. these of course will be a our for premier, tie this after the election. is there any question about tool during the foreign
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ministry? no, i didn't say anything key about that's a but all these issues going to be suddenly decided after the elections. are you one of the candidates to be in the foreign jeep? i have not heard this a domestic policy question. you want to turn back to parliamentary system from the presidential one if you can do it. what would that mean for this domestic public politics? i mean, what would be the benefits change in 2017, after the death around them from the parliamentary system into the possession system has a created a very serious or sit back in terms of separation of powers in terms of the floor. because under the system is that the current, the, a, implementing a, the executable authority is dominating and it has an on newport in power over the legislative and the judiciary. and this is contradictory to
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a democratic understanding of separation of powers. this has to change, and that is the reason why the 6 parties and the nation airlines have come forward with the idea of their strength and find them into the democracy strength. and in the sense that it is not going to be as such as, go on to it, to them that the turn to the back a, all of the a deal to put them into the system. it will be simply a new kind of an understanding reach for and hence to the functioning of the separation of powers and read through and hence the role of the parliament a. but there will be of close and balance the approach between the a 3 important the thirty's, the executive, legislative, and budget issue. now certainly a once this test formation takes place, approval for the approval in the country. a all kinds of full fundamental and basic rights and freedoms will of course be enjoyed and they will not be in, on new ports in the donation over the legislative body and over digit this should,
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this is very important that i think it is important for the democratic and democratization of the country, people are very much as binding to achieve that kind of a democratic took. actually, a part of government refers to the class of the prime minister and the president's interest us history, which caused a very big economy prices for 2 q at the beginning of in the beginning of the 2 thousands of do you have any hesitation that the same unfortunate experience for to kick in be repeated. i don't think so because there will be certain important safety mechanisms which will be into use to meet this think that the elementary system and for example, one second example is as far as the annual budget to the control and the budget or accounting is concerned. and it will be a special committee is truly established and it is the intention of the mission at
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lines to assign as someone from the position a to the chair person position of that committee. so this is actually a create and give a democratic understanding and the many new mechanisms feel being introduced to ensure the a small functioning of the they just sit there and a balanced approach between the legislative and executive as some a possibly examples. of course the in history, so let's say that and that's a going to happen and they can only be understood as individual examples, which cannot be considered as a kind of a, a permanent they repeat stripping, repeating possibilities. yeah, that was my final question on the southern non chevy coast. thank you very much for your participation. i thank you very much. and the as a former diplomat to i started my career in moscow more than 40 years ago in the soviet union. and the i had, they would,
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feelings allowed to rush at the russian culture and the rest of the teachers. so i may also take this opportunity to send my best greetings to the restroom. people, thank you very much and bye for now. the, the russian states never see as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best most i'll send send the send the 6595 and speed one else calls. question about this, even though we will bend in the european union, the kremlin media mission,
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united states and the ussr fabulous diet, in the defense that the main tribes crush, 13th stop us. because hitler was a week and know a week that he was bluffing. he was a major political figure. certainly one of the most prominent political leaders of the 20th century when they wish that of course, the germans had of the germans. when we support the russians in that way, let them destroy each that it was that kind of sentiment in the west at this time, the redrawing of european border britain and the united states. but then just to the plan to attack the ussr into survive. russia has to be sacrifice the like condition, service mesa, ford from us has the lot to sell my condo. this cattle and michel malice hold no. why not? the cold war? the guns
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