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this 1st, can you see through their illusions, going underground again. the homeschooling prior to the pandemic was seen as eccentric, but now has become a competitive option for parents in regards to the education of their children on sky. now he was in, on this edition of 360 view, we're going to look at the growing numbers around the world where choosing high school versus the traditional classroom and what this means for the future of education. so let's get started. the
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over the last 3 years, forms reports that more than 300000000 children worldwide part took in some form of homeschooling. now, the concept of homeschooling is nothing new as it has been practice since the 17th century. with north america became settled and colonized at that time, educational infrastructure was not the priority. therefore, if parents wanted their children to be literate, the responsibility fell on those within the home. since then, however, homeschooling has grown to not just be an american phenomenon. with technological developments, like the internet, the parts of at home teaching have really caught fire. countries like australia, new celia, and the canada and u. k. now, both numbers as high as those found in the united states. so what is it about homeschooling, which is gaining popularity? and could this be seen as a rebellion from government indoctrination as well. let's, as the expert stephen run, those bar calls
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a degree in history from the university of california, santa barbara, a school teacher. he's also a writer and speaker on matters as a faith culture and education that mr. ramos burger is a member of a teacher advisory board and a home schooling analysts. thank you so much for joining us, steven. thank you, scott. it's going to be here. so how has the perception of homeschooling changed in the last 5 years? i think it's changed quite a bit in the last 5 years, but particularly the last couple years as a result of the pandemic. originally, i think for the last several generations, homeschooling had been sort of propagandized against in the sense that the, the teachers, unions and schools and government officials want the children in the school for the very purposes of indoctrination. and so there was a lot of talk of homeschooling kids being weird or being not socialized. and so there was a pretty heavy stigma. and then as we'll talk about dependent comes along. everyone
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has to stay at home. and the agenda in the public school is exposed to parents through online teaching. so in a real sense, the agenda backfire, and i think over expose itself. and now homeschooling is perceived as a much more viable opportunity, not just because of technology, but it's even less stigmatized now. which is amazing. so can you give all this credit to think, to the pandemic? and why didn't take something so drastic to make parents aware of what is going on in the classroom? a that's a really good question. i don't give all the credit to the pandemic, but the pandemic, we saw a huge boom. for example, in 1999 there were about 850 home 1000 homeschoolers. that's a lot by 2016. that number more than double to 1600000 homeschoolers. and so as you see, that increase in homeschooling is obviously our reaction of concerned parents not
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wanting their children indoctrinated by the public schools. and we're going to talk about more about that in a minute. but now we see it 2023. and as a direct result of the pandemic, this huge jump to 3700000. that's almost 67 percent of the entire student population is now being home schooled. that's incredible. so, speaking of that, you know, and some of the writings, as i was looking for and researching the shows and some of the things in your work, you actually said, do you believe that model and education is intellectually and morally bankrupt? how so? and what is the say about the current education options, both public and private for primary students? yeah, that's quite a complicated question, but very, very much worth worth asking and answering. we may not have enough time there to fully go into it. but what we've got plenty of time, don't worry about that just just to me, we got all the time in the world. oh, okay, good. well, this is really a big question. i'm going to try to make it simple though we should think of it
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this way. there are really only 2 possible ways to look at an education. either we get it right or we get it wrong. and in fact there's 2 k. 2 so we can look at to discover the right wrong kind of education. the confusing thing though is that the camp that gets it wrong has millions of variations. so it looks like there's millions of options, but they're really large. so i want to put it this way. if we think of it love the highest virtue, the things that we truly loved. i'm not talking about the passion love or the last or a trash or anything like that. i'm not truly love. there's a, there's a great saint st augustan, who explains that there are 2 loves and out of these loves come to cities. and i'm going to adapt this to the school because there are those that low the truth so much that they even might have contempt for their own opinions. conversely, there are let those who loved their own opinions so much that they have contempt
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for the truth. if we're talking about education, we can call these 2 camps, the cab of the philosophers to get education, right. and then the camp of the soft best to get education wrong because they loved their own opinions so much that they ignore the truth. and so that's the way that works. if we've ask a philosopher what an education is, it will be mutually exclusive from and diametrically opposed to what this office would tell us about an education. so i'm trying to make this simple, a philosopher would say this. a man is a composite of body and soul and that soul is the substantial form of the human person that has this playing field or potential activities. we call powers, man has appetites. irascible can keep us all appetites, he has material knowing senses. he has an intellect and a free will,
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and we called a free will and intellectual appetite. this office, on the other hand, define man in a very, very different way. and they actually best refer to man as a trouser, a born involved animal. and the mind give him credit for all the knowing senses and the appetites and the passions. but the don't give man credit for the intellect and even for free will. so the modern, softest and the image of the school since, at least even before john dewey, a 100 years ago, has been a man, doesn't have an intellect. he doesn't have a freewill, in fact, man doesn't even have a soul. this entire endeavors grounded in material determinism, genetic and environmental. so that's diameter, they oppose from the philosopher and in fact, the modern school run by this office doesn't even deal with the intellect, air free will. they exclude notions of virtue and vice, so they reject objective truth which is intellectual. and they were just the moral
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good, which is moral. so i make the claim properly that this office form of education is immoral, its anti human experience. i intellectual is very interesting. i really do appreciate you going into such a great length of explaining that because lot of times people just think it's just as simple thing as like teacher student. and they get their curriculum. and it's just simple like that. but there's actually a lot more complexity that goes to behind the scenes of that, which brings me to my next question for you. because you talk about the outcome based education. and let me just say outcome based education, especially the public schools presently can be very debatable because there's a wide range of what we're getting is not always what you see in the grades. what is the result of this being the center of education? it's all in currently, but for generations. a yeah, outcomes based education is an artifact of what started with john dooley, who's the father of american education, who was formed by depression schools,
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even before the 20th century to begin. so it's an artifact of materialism and scientism. and you see it's from the school of this office where they believe there's nothing outside or beyond the material realities. they assume that students in schools are meant to be ages of social change and to be used to solve social problems. they have good intentions, but this is terribly misguided if you discover what an authentic education is. so outcomes based education. suppose it looks at society and determine what they think people need to know to be good citizens in terms of working and, and producing and contributing to the really big ican nomic wellbeing of the state . and they make that list of things and then they plan backwards and teach to those specific skills or things so. so the opposite is done by the philosophers. they
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begin with principles of truth. and they don't aim with the kinds of outcomes. in fact, all the outcomes in modern education are actually just means to, to the true and in an authentic education, which is the cultivation of the human soul. aiming at wisdom by bill through the liberal arts philosophy and theology to cultivate the virtues, the intellectual, moral virtues. those are um, considered good outcomes based education. so i hope that makes sense. it absolutely does. but where does sort of, in talked about obviously about the philosophy and everything goes behind the actual education. but where he is actually go into life application of skills. what, what about the things is just as simple as teaching them how to balance checkbooks . those seem to be obsolete right now. other he's had even cooking or just general things that it takes to function as a human being in today's society doesn't actually exist. you know, quite right. 1 well then we have to get back and ask the questions of what is in education, and education is not about balancing check books or cooking or doing things like
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that. even though those are very important things to do. but in fact, if you look at the liberal arts, which is, are, are the true components of physical education. you'll discover their language component, which is the trivial. and there's quite a 54 components called the quadrillion, which includes arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy. to be cultivated in these arts of language and of qualification for pairs of sol. beautifully to balance a checkbook, cook a meal, interact in society, appear to be an excellent citizen. those things that the schools make big become very small in it. authentic education. so it's enough ethic education is not about skills, it's actually about acquiring the arts and sciences such that the interior light can be cultivated and the human soul can be perfected as they were made according to nature. well, we can't get into whether that's an unrealistic expectation to do across the board
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for all students. because i do wanna talk about homeschooling, which is something that i think does give that opportunity to have a balance of both where you can learn both life skills and the education that is needed. so let's 1st look at this globally to other countries homeschool. i've mentioned a few if so wherever you really seen this taken off and how do other countries look at this trend to homeschooling as what's happening in the united states. yeah there's, there is a trend all over the world because of, as you mentioned technology, you can, you can, you can do all kinds of things with schooling through technology, through zoom and through, through these things. and that's really, really important to understand. but there's a danger and that the authentic homeschooling is in the home under the tutelage of the 1st teachers which are parents when we give them external. when we get with parents, when we give external authority to other entities, that's where we have to be really careful. i think the governments that do not like
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homeschooling, don't mind the technology that extends their reach into the home. so i want to be really careful here about how we calibrate or qualify or understand what homeschooling is. if you are piping the government education in your health resume and you're having your schooling at home, that's not what we would call homeschooling. that's a government education in the location of the home. so we gotta be really careful about, but it is booming, it's growing. and it's also even a place like china where it's illegal. you see this growing moving of homeschooling because parents want to protect their children from the indoctrination of the state . so you're right, there are 2 different ways of looking at homeschooling versus the one that the parents or letter. one of the government still continues to just happens at the home. the american, what is your, what do you think is the majority of americans choose, is their lifestyle right now when they're looking at homeschooling. and is that what will serve as a model for other countries to follow to? that's a great question, because i think in america, what we see is that we are in
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a real sense, the freest we are the freest to do homeschooling. and i think it's a great model because we're taking the idea of homeschooling is to protect children from the agenda of the government led by this office. and that's nearly every school in america unfortunately. so what you see is parents protecting their children can take cell reforms in america. we can send our kids to classical charter schools. i work at the school called john allen's academy in northern california. and it's fantastic. the great alternative, there's a school, there's a. 1 a hybrid homeschooling group called regina chilly academy, and that's where you go 2 days a week with faithful good people. and then you spent 3 days a week at home. and then there's too much stuff corner to doing retrograde academy, which is a way of helping parents home school or children properly. and then there's something like colby academy. we have many options. and i think this idea of authentic homeschooling, protecting our children from the innocence destroying agenda of the state really is
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what has is a beacon of hope for the world if we don't get crushed because the government, as we speak, is trying to get into this here thank you, stephen. okay, i want them to stick around because there's a great opportunity to take a break because when we come back, i want to ask stephen how the government is responding to those. choosing not to be educated in the classroom will be right back the the
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i need to use it says that you train school, so that's good news. i used to move on when they finished over or where and you know, to buy these folks clicked the button. so i'm saying yes, i see the nestle to take a picture of, i'll go dump it to please the straight face of the we are back in continuing our conversation with steven ramos bird who has a degree in history from the university of california, santa barbara, a school teacher who is also a writer and a speaker on matters of faith, culture and education. now mister almost burger is a member of each advisory board and a homeschooling and analysis. thank you so much for joining us. a. thank you. okay, so back to our conversation, do you see this in growing popularity as
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a rebellion from the lack of substance which is being taught students are the curriculum which is being taught students. yes, it is a rebellion for sure. and a rightful one from the, from the pandemic when things were piped into the home, i remember there was a movement from teachers to ask parents not to look at what was going on. is it? this was a private conversation between teachers and their children. and the reason they did that is because the agenda is actually diabolical. so, so what happened is, i think parents from the beginning even back, 2030 years ago, took their kids out of the schools because they saw the agenda. but society is made it so difficult for, for one parent to stay home. that it seems like going to school is one of our only options for our children. and even so that's breaking down as a direct rebellion to the lack of substance. the parents are seeing and worse than that to the agenda that they're seeing brought home in terms of ideology. our
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children are no longer being educated, they're being made into political activists. what's interesting, really bring that up because governments definitely do not have rebellions. so how are governments around the world fully accepting of parents picking a curriculum for their children's education? i don't think they're accepting at all, but there was this movement in the public schools with leadership to bring teachers, 3 or 4 different options of textbooks. and then they would get the teacher to choose one of them. and then if there are any complaints, they could say, well, you chose it. so i believe that the government is trying to have a hand in influencing the certain curricula so that people choose something that mimics in the home what's happening in the government school. and that would be the biggest mistake you could make in homeschooling. so no, i don't think the governments are happy about it at all. i know that the n e a, the teachers associations and schools in general don't like it because they feel like the home school and are taking money from them. such as part of the part of the equation. absolutely. even though those students are not taking either actually
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giving back the tax dollars, do you still have to pay for childs a tax fair here in united states? but i think it also speaks to a larger picture because the growth of homeschooling. how do you feel that it, what does it say about the current education options? not only public, but private for primary age students? and where do you think these charter schools fit into this picture? yeah, there is there. is there a lot of options now? and unfortunately most of the public or most of the private schools of limit the public schools. and also unfortunately many of the charter schools. 5 because they're connected to a government money, they have to mimic with the, with the, the national agenda is so that becomes problematic and tricky. but i still think there's a group of schools, classical charter schools that have something in their chart that says do the sex ed program. there are these, if we will. why are they federal and they're calling what's very normal and humane . weird. so it gets complicated. what time is more crucial? do you think right now?
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where are we saying when the kids in the younger age, the elementary school age, the middle school age or the high school? what is more, the priority of parents had to pick off of time to make this a priority. where should they be? and your priority should be never let your kids near the schools, especially when they're young and then hold on to them to high school and then don't let them go to a state college. that would be my priority. okay, i get that as a, as a mother myself of both my kids having to be in the public school and we're looking at state schools for, for college and a side of it. a lot of parents will look and say, this would be wonderful and a great world when i didn't have to worry about paying for inflation and the inflated cost of everything right now. yes, i would love to stay home with my children, how you respond to those parents to go. i don't have time to be able to do that. if i'm going to be able to keep my, my a roof over their head and food on the table, where did they find the do this? let me give a little more serious answer to the last question is, if there's a priority, the priority is when they're young and,
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and i know that's the contrary to what we want to hear, but it's super important to protect your children from when they're young at least up and through, i would say high school and you send them to a public high school and you've done your due diligence to form them. well, i can understand that because here's the thing. they're only 2 mitigating factors to the damage the school can do. and one is a good family, and the 2nd is virtually the acquisition of the to virtue. so staying at home and educating them when they're young is much more value then when they're older. but i know it looks like the opposite. i've heard parents say, well, it's safe when you're young because what can they do? well, they're starting in t k 234 and 5. and they are indoctrinating them with, with every bad audiology that exist, including sex ed, you know, and you just put a wealth of information. so thank you so much for joining us. i think he's got a okay, that was how this going advocate an expert steven ramos. but very interesting on that. you know, when parents feel their local public education option is lacking in areas,
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they want to be important. they seek viable options. now private education might be too expensive, a charter school might not be available and teaching at home might be the only option which satisfies the parents needs. as public schools become more indoctrinated by the woke agenda, the hallways continued to become less safe and religious concerns. the 3 justifiable reasons for parents to look to homeschooling. now, part of the parent they make the argument against homeschooling, was it was a reduced curriculum and missing socialization produced 8 was prepared. stewart for college or beyond. however, the way it is to, to actually show those home educated in america, typically score 15 to 30 percent off points above public school standard on standardized test. and that's also globally tracking to be the same levels. so with these overwhelming successful results, there is no wonder why the popularity of homeschooling is increasing. however,
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a mass exodus from the public education system is not a welcome move for the government. present multiple cases invoke the legislation to try and limit and restrict the curriculum which can be used by home scores. that's invoking the one institution which homeschoolers are trying to escape from all into their perimeters. sadly, with the infrastructure already in place to support homeschooling with in the government system, thanks to the pandemic. it would only take a small legislative tweet to make certain rules for the homeschooling program to be compulsory. a move which would give the government a 4 seat at everyone's kitchen table on sky. now he's missed when your 360 view. thanks for watching the
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