a. 2 2 1 of the weapons that private companies use against whistle blowers is the court's knowing that whistle blowers can't possibly pay attorneys to defend them over the long term companies will file lawsuit after lawsuit motion after motion to where the whistle blower down and in many cases cause bankruptcy, the whistleblower often times will then just give up. there just isn't any more money. but sometimes the courts see through that strategy. sometimes the good guys really do when i'm john kerry ok. welcome to the whistle blowers the . 2 jonathan taylor spent 9 years as an attorney for s b m. off shore, a dutch multi national oil company, s b m off shore, also had a us subsidiary called s b m, off shore usa. during the course of his employment with s b. m off shore taylor

became aware of evidence of bribes being offered to government officials in return for lucrative contracts. this is a crime pretty much everywhere in the world. in the united states. it's a violation of something called before and corrupt practices act. that's a serious crime. in the end s b m offshore agreed to pay a $240000000.00 settlement induction authorities for violating the bribery laws. and in addition, s b m offshore usa, paid an additional $238000000.00 for the same crime as b m offshore. usa also pleaded guilty as a company to criminal charges associated with the bribery. that's a story with a happy ending, right. not so fast. in july 2020 taylor and his family were on holiday in croatia when he was arrested by croatian authorities on what's called an interpol read notice. although the warrant was withdrawn, taylor was not allowed to leave croatia. his family returned home, but he ended up stranded in crow ation for

a year just in case the government of monaco, which had filed the charges in the 1st place, changed its mind and decided to seek his extradition. in the end again after a year. he was finally allowed to return to the u. k. and the pro ration judge close the case against him. as happens with many whistle blowers, taylor rather than being lauded and honored, has had his life turned upside down. his career is in ruins. his personal life is in tatters and he was forcibly separated from his family despite the fact that he was never charged with a crime. and still, 2 years later, he's being pursued by the government of monica. we're very happy to be joined by jonathan taylor. jonathan, thank you so much for joining us. we're happy to have you, jonathan. it's unusual that a case of whistleblower retaliation is so clear. cut usually wasn't blowing as complicated and messy, not so with this case. you saw your legality, and you reported it, your company and its subsidiary admitted their guilt and paid

a huge penalty. the story should have ended right there. what happened next? and how did monaco get involved? so it's, it's about what happens upon discovering the cost, right? correct. positive invest in and it's out reporting it was help and it's um, covering up as much as possible because and i'd be disclosing to the also to use as little as possible. this became evidence of a quite 7 young and i started feeding your thirty's with the full story. i'm starting with the us securities and exchange commission like graduating into about 56 of the prosecutors. this is asked for was and i started these spins, obasi fell attempts to minimize the level of disclosure out formats i became

every member. well, if you will. um. oh, no days for companies being fined. about $847000000.00 us dollars spent over 6 different prosecute since the game had it had this way. and the fine would have been considerably less that obviously being presents of a 2 pharmacy who's and counseling. but it was my involvement in blowing the whistle, which was if you will quite successful as far as a winter blade is concerned, but certainly not in terms of why private life. um, uh the uh, the full unfolded. um, espn um was a uh, a golden a suite for monica. it was

a blue chip company. but monica, once it opens the head closer in monica, the relationship between the company and monica was close. monica is on the sized spams or related products. then the on extracts and business functioning platforms on it stands and they go on fractions to get the space and espn representatives click tablets even open the price at the parentheses. and so full espn 2, i'm sofa. um, i also have being the product biggest private sector in troyer in monica. monica was not happy with me. i'm curious to know to who came to your defense, what was the reaction of the british government, for example, the british government over the past 20 years. certainly has been on the wrong side of national security was the blowing. but on these financial matters, we've actually been pretty good where they helpful to you. so the,

the british government got involved relatively lights on light sites, information to the series for office in mountain. and they do use that to that benefits in various prosecutions. when i saw supporting i was on the, the next edition proceedings stuck in croatia, their initial response, public response was what connection was said between taylor being a whistle blower. and his being arrested on the inside of co written notice in the prospect in july 2020. what was the relationship? ultimately there was an emergency question in the house of parliament and the house of commons on the following day. the house of lords. and that's the defense was constantly repeated. however, um, such as the trust parties support for my case and the fact of the government needed

. so into the, within the week the governance line had changed to monitor kevin price and need to treat to tell you that as a result of that, it's really difficult to ascertain what help they want to me. they probably said they wouldn't get involved in legal proceedings in a 3rd party country, which of course, it does what it wants to. i don't know what went on behind prize tools when various governmental officials came to christ. i don't know to what extent my case was discussed. i got nothing to demonstrate. it was so mild, so it would be on the face of it. the support from the government was was opposing additional. how are you able to deal psychologically with that year of uncertainty? in croatia, you were separated from your family, you were unable to earn any money. you had the prospect of arresting deportation hanging over your head. how did you get through it?

so very sure what you need them. i have a really good support, right? but don't need of them. we're supplying n g a is john list and some politicians it was led by i'm off from bright to you probably have heard of. i'm from the movie official secrets on the test. don't say he was um, i'd like to have some jobs so i was over in contact with him before my interest and he was introduced. it's in, he was an interesting story on from my experience before christ. and he put together some t people. so it was very helpful and getting by in price that i had this support network that we were in regular common sense to start with on a daily basis they, they made the wills of difference and gone. it supports especially that through the press and, and call themselves with a. so it was,

it was seeing people do the best for me and really trying which is still confidence and hoping to be the best. the best offices i question were speaking with the attorney and oil whistleblower jonathan taylor. we're going to take a short break and hear more about his experience state to. 2 2 2 2 2 2 the, [000:00:00;00]

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the work you get is the 3rd write you an idea of what she has written this time and you cry, genocide of civilians, militarization in search. see, it's a decided this suggested i go to the f b i o switch a and that was use gaps in time because well, 9 was the language in the meantime was speaking with the investigation judge in mama to about my voluntarily coming out to see if it was all fixed, i was now choose to go out towards the end of december 2020. however, the multitude of public prosecute say, how to withdraw all the request for my expedition in christian otherwise price it will pounds. so keep hold of me. unfortunately, the prosecution didn't do that and i, i was so i had to stay out same price if it was still another 7 months i have to prosecute said allows me to travel so long. okay. to see the investigating judge

um, i was almost certain things i'm still be married, so i went to investigative my nice and i'd still be working in the law. so it's pretty much the science of and that's a revenge. you know, i repeat, spirit was the biggest part of set to employ it in one of the ties between states and the company a very long and is very tight. and i was on the wrong hands of a persecution by the states of monica. what role do you think s p m offshore had with all of this? i can't believe that a prosecutor would just decide on his own volition to target a whistleblower who had come forward to report on an illegality. any legalities that was successfully prosecuted, the prosecutor in monaco must have been put up to it. can you speculate on that? was the company behind it? perhaps the government might have been behind it. i was one of the,

the 1st people to make your thoughts. he's aware in brazil, the prosecution, brazil, as to the corruption aspects of process, the national gods company of opposite over espn funding bribes to some executives. and as a result of my information, um, what was that as of racing calls again. and it turns out that the espn is bribes events as they what that would save you aspect. and then a whole lot of um, a visit in firms and comp tells paying bribes. and it was an mention of the international companies. ultimately, this led to shoes protests at one point, they were a 50 protest and 50 visit in cities east protests, of at least 1000000 people, and ultimately sold to the doubtful of the of the presidents juma roost. she was in the pos, administer for energy,

and therefore the chairperson of pension for us. um as a c. c looks i the tot incompetence for the oh, this guy on the watch. oh, see, my son has perhaps nothing about what was going on with with nothing really nothing else to that. in addition, i see that the espn russo found to be paying the work is spotty. that was of the presence potty, the, the $1300.00. for the 2010 presidential campaign. i'm in support of children who systems the 1st campaign. so what we're looking at bear is, if the corruption is now on the mining democracy and what is the 4th largest democracy in the world. so you know, the price and that goes to the tv people below the poverty line where types of traps. so am i seeing millions where that money should really be invested in the infrastructure of schools, roads and hospitals. but also i sent you the expense of,

of the fix of corruption. so perhaps i have to do at least the beginning of the end of june, the recess, he was ultimately of costing pete's a time was as presence of brazil, a further information i found out since i last s p. m is the, the towns and see who did. i mean, just come on board about about a month before these revelations surface. he was found to have him sign off on a privacy is being well reports. it was just the $35000000.00 to go to encrypt the traps, including the van has a song go, let's see, and go to my. so let me guess company, some improvement. well, just didn't say he went on to be vice president of the country. so the soonest $35000000.00. so i've managed to mess information,

something which i didn't even realize i had that's i was able to divulge a 2021. the folks of h is mind is off to the espn. but the overall message is, you know, i had the kitchen sink, so i wouldn't be, yes, i was very successful with so buying, but i have to suffer in obviously it says, hey, simply play somebody in the world who puts the supplies the wells since the notes ready for us, there is no way of it as i should have suffered. once i've had to suffer for bringing chief to the faces of them, of corruption, absent justice, and i have paid and a nose, pesto penalty and my life has been changed. well, katy forever. i was on a very happy family holiday. on the 6th of july. i'm now as i say, i'm divorced. i'm jobless. i'm

a last year. my last that should never have happened. i'm hoping the low make is the well, uh listen to my town and it's not something i looked today. it was something that came upon a realize that's robust laws need to be passed for the protection of mass. i'd like to thank our guest whistle blower, jonathan taylor, and thanks to our viewers for joining us today, i'd like to leave you with the words of psychologist dr. jennifer frasier, who said, quote, speaking up is one of the most difficult that's a person can carry out. it requires immense courage and sacrifice and quote, she's right. it does be courageous. be like jonathan taylor. i'm john kerry aku. and you've been watching the whistle blowers, we'll see you next time. 2 2 2 2 2

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