for resources and using the low, the 1st genocide of the 20th century and not without reason are compared to the holocaust just 2 decades later after the massacre in nam may be a hitler's the solve unit boat on the same brown colonial uniform which force the world into the chasm of the 2nd world war, the power of body. i'm rick sanchez. i've been doing news now for 30 years and 2 languages all over the world. and here in the united states, and i've interviewed for presidents and found in a 1000000000 dollar business and you know what? i think i think new should be honest and direct and impactful, which is why we call this direct impact the

it may be unintended consequences. it may be a fire, maybe as it's infamously referred to by the c i a, you've heard this term, right? blow back, call it whatever you want. but there's something happening right now with china, which is no doubt directly related to our government's actions. that's right. and the patent goes something like this, the more that the united states, this is china, the more the china wants to assert itself, globally. it began with she hammering out a truce, or tries to between 2 countries that have publicly hate each other, despised each other. now for more than 7 years this year and between the a rod and saudi arabia is rooted in doctrine, in history, in the religious differentiation proxy wars that have dominated the middle east headlights, but suddenly in steps of president, she who seemed to shock the global community by getting to ron and re odd

to sign an agreement, we establishing diplomatic relations between the 2 ron's foreign minister had described the meeting with the solve the counterpart as positive and emphasize that stability and sustainable security. and the common agenda were among the issues of lead upon the 2 sides will also study the prospect of resuming flights between the nations while facilitating the visa process for the citizens. and no sooner than that, the deal was inc, it was onto another meeting. this is the president of china, another meeting, another attempt, a piece of making this time looking for a solution to the conflict between ukraine and russia. the

. 2 and so after establishing what appears to be an amicable relationship mister, she presents present and putting with china's 12 point plan to end the conflict which calls for dialogue, respect for both countries, territorial sovereignty, an end to a beacon nomic sanctions. he also urges both parties to avoid nuclear escalation, and that by the way, did not seem like a major point or a relevant point when the plan was 1st presented. but then this up, did you hear about this? the u. k announces that it would send pegs to ukraine containing depleted uranium,

which seemed to enrage russia who are saying the shells contain enough radiation to make dirty bombs. so as for the sheen plan, a clean and of itself, here's our mr. boat and responded. isn't going to the suspension that people usually need me for you to when you close to agree to. so can i can teach you when kids at the tone, when you and your son was booth, wasn't, was a subsidy. anything here. one that the ticket to you my comment this issue because now i'm stories where it is being specifically reduced to somebody junior. it's no longer need you need this system from goodman. so there's a course here. so it looks like the the product was joining us now. is journalist marco fernandez. marco, thanks so much for joining. i guess we have to start with your rod and saudi arabia

agreement. this is historic. i mean, this seem to come out of nowhere, all countries, china stepping in and, and, and, and, and settling this thing, the evil communist hell bent on world domination as they've often been referred to . what's your reaction had this happened them? yeah. china. okay. reach. that's, that was mind blowing agreement combine is expecting, and i just, i went excuse you tell a little story one minute. so few, a few weeks ago i was i didn't b, g. so i had to go to show high to shoot a tv show there. so i went to the airport in the morning and i got to plan everything to shy. so i see by the window and look at my side and the runway and i saw a airplane official airplane of the islamic republic of your end. i saw a swamp,

but what's going on? i, i didn't hear about any delegation running delegation in china. i mean, fall the news every day and present, right? you see just had been in the gene like a couple weeks ago. so why is, is that things like okay, i don't know, i have no idea. so i will show hi, shoot the show and of the day go to, i'll go to have some drink and a bar and listen to, i mean i would my cellphone, sell it as a braking is started the agreement between saudi arabia and he ran after 7 years of broken relationship, i was like sure that was why the airplane was there. my god. i mean this, they will you be for 4 days, 5 days nobody knew about it. why i'm telling this? first of all, because i think distorted sounds a little bit about how trying these diploma supports, why, why countries more and more countries can trust china because they are really

reliable. buckner. i mean, imagine if like too high status delegation of sorted raven, you run in the country, another country for 5 days and nobody knew about, it's very hard to happen. but in china they have, they have a way to say, ok, this is top secret. let's discuss behind the scenes and then we come out publicly. so this is a 1st thing. but i would say also this, this, there is a way of chinese diplomacy that is being like, i think it more, more appearing appealing to the whole world, which is a different way of doing traditional relations. first of all is dialogue consultation consensus. you know that chinese culture is very much based in process is the, is a culture, is like daily life. so i think this, this express in chinese diplomacy but also of course is a comic interest. of course, i mean china is the largest buyer of almost everything,

almost every commodity in the world right now. started, arabia is a 2nd um, 2nd largest exporter to avoid the china. you ran, i mean, china has a huge agreement with the run a couple of years ago. they say like, maybe $400000000000.00 in 25 years. it was providing oil and gas. the china, china is providing technology for structure, 5, g sub ways, trains, etc. so of course, i mean the 3 of them together have and of course china is in the middle. they had huge economic interest. so what it, what is, what is the best for them? is to okay, let's keep fighting wars. let's get paid each other and we don't talk to each other and we fund other. i don't know, melisha is against each other. i mean guys, let's sit and talk like 8 or it's and that's kind of let's make business. of course

it's about business, but it's about like a different, a best for development for the countries. so i think more and more countries, especially the global solves look at to china, say, okay, we get to deal with these guys. they're not coming here. evade hill country julie, thousands of hundreds of thousands of people, devastating countries in and, and few years or after that they just read it. i mean, i don't know, they just got a sanction us 12 our economies. this is not the way to china, things that should behave with other countries. so i think this is, i mean it's, it's almost common sense, right? but i think this is a kind of common sense that the west mist long time ago. why do you think by the way, marcos, that uh, that they did it now or is, are they trying to send a message to the united states to the west? i think it turns into a message, of course, but i don't think this is the chinese a like see here, then you'll get a legs that send messages to us. oh, i mean let's,

let's propose something different from the wolf to the world. which is not wars that's not destroyed. countries let's, let's respect coaches. i respect other cultures. so in this says, it is a message. but as i said, again, this is, this is also in comic andrews. this is america interest. and at the end of the day, i think also the countries of the global south and more and more realizing that if we are divided among ourselves, we're going to be weaker to deal with with the western box. so guys, let's see, to talk because that's at the end of the day we, we global. so we give them color, we are 80 percent of population the world and, and, and actually we were present in the last years 70 percent of the growth of the global d, b growth. so the, the, the dynamics of the economy is shifting from,

from the global knowledge of the global saw. so why should we be divided fighting each other? why should we not unite and go to do 20. i am as a united nation, this windows from the voice to do with this guys our former go magics. the china says that the united states antagonism towards them is the reason that they're, you know, establishing themselves as we spoke about a little while ago, globally. do you think that's true? do you think it, this is causing china's emergence or desire to assert itself globally? that's a good question. re i think i'd say, 1st of all, i think take the example of china and brush both china and russia in domestic case . many sectors of society develop deep relations with united states

cannot make lee even like culturally. so this set to the side of talking about media is a, be from business people to read a glass disclosure on what to go to us studying and diversity, etc. so more and more with this increasing aggressiveness of us against both russia and china. what is happening to this sectors aside? some of them just have to shut up because, i mean you, you can support a country who is like, bashing your country every single day. then when i've seen your nationalities demonizing your culture. so that's the 1st thing. and i think this is clearly happening, and in both, i mean this, this, this both china and russia, i mean, internally, they are getting more united in the same as the global software shut about the countries. this also happening truly in china and richard right now. in the

nationally sectors. they drive a sectors. uh they try to think would be the best word of english they was guys. look, this is, this is what the us is about united loved us, but i'm sorry they don't log you. so i think this is happening. and finally, i think i a big mistake of nice days in nature right now. and this is not market say, this is henry kissinger saying, guys, you guys are crazy. you guys are unify united states and china. i'm sorry, i'm a kissinger. i worked hard guys 50 years ago to put a match between russia and china to divide them. that's why i went to debate and that's why we brought china together and we divided china in rush. so they doing that at the time. you guys crazy now you guys are you, you united the, i'm sorry, this is so side. but the problem again, that was a mean is,

this is our guess common sense, right? just like strategic concepts. but again, guys like blinking victoria nolan. i mean, i think they are very behind common sense right now. and this, what do they think? because what they're doing now in 5 years from now, i mean, you saw what she told 14. so this is a shift in history that we haven't seen a 100 years, and we're driving this transformation. and i mean, this is the imagine move to happen 3 years ago, 4 years ago. but this is what you asked, has been producing marco, do me a favor, stay there, cuz we're gonna come back in just a little bit. i want, there's a couple of things i want. i want you to go over with us. okay. by the way, i should mention to you, i have a pod cast where as a journalist, as a latino, as an entrepreneur, i tell my story and share with you what i've learned about how to succeed at a grow and some of the things we talked about here on this particular show called

the rick sanchez podcast. check it out, and i'll see you there. okay. when we come back more on the growing tension between china and the united states, and specifically, what china has to stay right there. the, the, the words set a very, very precarious moment in human history for try see, for us or flesh. so using cause the way we need to lease is up, let's just use serious. suppose it still you cause some states and if you have to fly and reduce the custodial korean a deluxe, the union above the national tax, let's show a new me it's got said it's going up when we changed since then. yeah.

usually when i from the says religion towards the sea chest base with no credit, the work you get is the dry idea of what she has written this time. and you cry, genocide of civilians, militarization of society and an ultra nationalist state policy. decades may say history is repeating itself on let's not forget that. 80 years ago the soviet union defeated not system at the cost of an enormous number of casualties. there's a reason why the so be as low as 27000000, and the u. s. was 310000 and combat the grids about the same number. the soviets are doing most of the fighting. and most of the time, if you k in france had a size that agreement with soviet union, they could have stopped the,

the accused trump of being engaged various torn corrupting scams. and now it's coming out that the bite and family was taking money from almost anybody around the world to lined abroad, to buy them. you know, the by the democratic use prop of various, the sexual misconduct. there's all kinds of allegations circulating 5 in concerning that and concerning far worse misconduct. so i think what you see is a lot of construction through project and what they accuse trump of is what they themselves are. give you the the hey, welcome back. i'm rick sanchez, there's a new target in the war of words and deeds between china and the united states.

beyond the military exercises along the taiwan straits, the rest of the daughter of the founder of while away the spy balloon episode. and the dicey heated rhetoric between these 2 countries enter the tick tock war. but us congress wants to band tick tock, calling the social media sites where follow or share videos. a danger to america and president barton seems to agree take talk, see a show has come out fighting. he's the 1st thing he did, even before meeting with congress, was he put out this video to all his tick tock, followers in the united states. a. hi, everyone is joe. here, i'm the ceo of take talk. i'm here in washington dc today, and i have some using updates to share with everyone here today. i'm super excited to announce that more than a 150000000 americans on take time. that's almost half of the us coming to take

talk to connect, to create, to share, to learn. but just to have some fun. this includes 5000000 businesses they use take talk to reach the customers and the majority of these a small and medium businesses. now these numbers are amazing, and i'm so thankful to all of you. and the $7200.00 employees in the us helping us build this incredible community in america and around the world. now this comes at a pivotal moment for us. some politicians has started talking about banding to talk now this could take take tucked away from all 150000000 of you all be testifying before congress later this week. to share all that we are doing to protect americans using the app and deliver on a mission to inspire creativity and to bring joy. let me know in the comments what you one your elected representatives to know about what you love about. take talk. joining this once again, is marco fernandez to talk about this situation is tick tock, thing this new thing congress is considering

a bad on tech doc. it's one of the largest social media platforms in the world is you know, they think in fact they said repeatedly that it is a chinese bi tool. is it? what do you make of that? well 1st of all, i think it's, it's important to, to remind that the child is accomplished by dance. they already agreed with a us government to be um, to have like a strong us uh, supervision overview about about the data they. they agree, okay. we can store our data in the cloud. you guys tell us to do you guys have access, you guys can control that. and they say no, you have to sell the company. so, i mean, it's clear what's, what's going on. they just want to steal the company to grab the company from the chinese because a very successful company. i mean this, i'm sorry, i'm

a big godfather fan for me. i just just remember, i mean we were gonna make an offer. you can't refuse. and this is marsha, this is positive behavior, right? say no, this is all conditions is i wait or i wait. so this is for me is clear, but i think of course the, the, the issues of data it's, it's a very complex thing and get you the words because i think you have more question about it. by the way, what do you, what do you think really is bringing this on and being antique china proper again and the china paranoia. but this is again, i think is it's a, it's a commercial issue. they, they just want to take advantage and grab the very successful company. and we find a way it's funny because you know, that they talk doesn't make money and us and all actually lose a lot of money in us where they really make money, isn't china. and why, because the way to talk makes money is that because i mean you and me like spend,

i don't know like 20 minutes a day. just look into like buy stands for years and know that's not how we make money. they make money because we try to be sell stuff. this is a huge platform. already competing with alibaba. we, j. d, people just sell stuff to live streams as we're doing right now, but we're just selling ideas or we're just exchanging ideas. they sell potatoes to mean peasants, chinese beds and selling potatoes and getting potatoes to people in the big city close by. so does not make money and wise is possibly trying to in, not in us because china has a huge logistical infrastructure right now. it's great. sometimes i get scared like a friend of mine was like just moved and then he said, oh i wanna tv is like saturday one and they go to like online. but for him, he buys a television in one hour, like 2 am in the morning and sat saturday and he got the tv. this is a crazy logistics. if a ship to china has us doesn't have they don't,

they don't know how to do it. this is going to be a problem for them, even if they grab to the dock. let's see how they would make money because deduct is losing a lot of money in us right now. one of the problems i think with these accusations is that i detect a bit of hypocrisy here on the part of our government. given that, you know, we often or at least are politicians on our media, often condemns countries for blocking social media for not giving free access to media for not allowing citizens to express themselves for reclaiming. as we often do, these countries aren't like us, they don't respect free speech. is that kind of hypocritical, a good week? i mean, there's a lot of hype walkers, e, f, a one side, because we know that the fact that you, me, and our audience, all of us are twitter, instagram, facebook class, that means state department has all of our data. they know us better than now. so

you know, our desires, know what we like. we don't like what we buy, we don't buy. and this is data is huge issue data. there's lot of people say the data is the view wild because this is what mean? this is what makes money. now this companies sell the data that they have about us . so and us has access to everybody in the world, but china. so this is, i think is the 1st thing. the 2nd thing is that i would also wouldn't be naive in this issues of data because it's not that are we should just have a free mark and everybody know this is, this is also a national security. i think china was at a very clever or a smart way, like few years ago where they come to us that's on this. okay guys, you wouldn't be in china. this is chinese data. we need to have control. the same

thing that i mean by day is proposing us. oh, okay. you guys have control. yeah. trying this. okay. we need to talk, we need to have access to. we just had no way. google said no way. so. okay, i, so a lease, you cannot stay in the country. of course people here in china, everybody accessed this, this, that phones with vpn, but there is this issue. so you cannot just say that data should be free. everybody should access. no, that's actually this is a, uh, this is a trip. uh, this is a kind of narrative, is a trap for us because it didn't, they all the data goes to the state department. so i think there's a very complex issue. at the end of the day, what we should discuss is how the states, how the nations out should deal with data. because it's all data is my data, is your data is actually capture by private companies. without any, i mean there's a, they have no limits. so this kind of restrictions is kind of, i mean, this kind of,

the base of all this is that we should, we should, we should have been doing in, in, in, in the countries trying to is doing this right now. there's a big debate in the country about what is the act of the data who should control should not control. but unfortunately, most of our countries, we just accept it. okay to your is amazing. i have to and of course, but i mean, it is dangerous because this is a way also of us to have access to all of us. how does china respond? if they do, how do you think china will respond? maybe better put to the blocking of this app. will they respond? they, they say so they say, so again, this is hard to predict and, but i think of course china is being more and more tact now is to talk. but there's a whole issue about the chips to send somebody from doctor's of the hughes of war.

and that right now us is kirby axis. uh china. we had a huawei issue, so i mean, i suspect they're gonna do something. they have been saying that, but we don't know yet what they're going to do back out. thanks so much. i really appreciate your time and look forward to talking to you once again. all right, before we go, i want to remind you of our mission here. simple, really, it's the silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little boxes, you know, because troops don't live in boxes. true, sir. the truth is everywhere. how much the interest i'll be looking for you again, right here, where i hope to provide some direct impact the the,

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a reason why the so be as low as 27000000 and the u. s. was 310000 and combat and the grids about the same number because so we have to be doing most of the fighting