to west virginia to achieve the defense of ukraine and events of the conflicts or constant escalation through increased arm supplies and support of war hawks. in order to weaken russia, whatever their real motive it sees their course will remain unchanged, no matter how many die on both sides in the process from on call for. i've already done that through public. we spoke to former us army officer, scott bennett, who says that the west has always portrayed transactions as peaceful and defensive . despite evidence to the contrary, there's no defensive characteristic to these weapons whatsoever. again, these are allegedly fired from air to ground positions their tech, to go weapons for offensive purposes. they're not defensive. and this fits the constant narrative that the west and the european union and the british are constantly trying to redefine the context and the words behind this conflict to

fit their own political narrative to make it digestible to their own people. so they're always claiming that ukraine is a democratic nation, that zelinski is a freedom fighter. and that each missile and the weapon system that the west is giving it somehow difference. and it's for that reason that of, of women and in the us open wide data give comment, use articles where a allegedly gather, stand, a, again, is one of the prime sources of power on the face of the earth right now. and no arrest, no prosecution, no highly wanted extra additions from afghanistan of drug transportation. you have to ask yourself, wait, how is that? how can that be? now people who hear the names of 3 letter agencies, you know, the f, b i, c a, d, e, a ice and so forth. and they assume law enforcement as law enforcement. and that they

are common goal is, you know, busting the bad guys. but you've asserted that the c a is different in that they've often initiated a lot of crimes engaging in and even orchestrating crime rings like drug trafficking. can you tell us more about that? let me see. first of all, very clear. central intelligence is not a police agency as they can, they have no power in the united states in the any police action whatsoever, or actually any way they are not policeman this their own supposedly spy is supposedly, well, i don't know. do you have to ask them, what do you guys do? because what we see in tom clancy movies is to a b s. u. we know that the guy who's sitting in these meetings that you see in central intelligence and the next thing you see is the same guy. now under cover, deep cover that never, never happened. central intelligence, us spice,

nothing more, nothing less. yeah, they're also paid by us by of taxpayers to go out and screw up final, which a slip far enough variations in any way, whether the job that they're doing is good or bad in my opinion. and the end of the last d, e, a, people we call them the criminal inept agency. they're very in depth at what they do. but when they show up, because they're a spite agency, everything is hidden behind national security. you have no right to to look for if you go now and try to find out, for example, what, whatever happened to mark make fall in the c, i a officer who was running the operation running the drug smuggling operation out of his way law. you will be able to find this thing to classify. so what does that

prove? what pools is the. busy law in this country is not a police agency. they are spying agency, and they're above the law. now it's also said that the us played an outsized role in the early days of the opium trade, which is used in heroin, in fentanyl. in the old days, it was afghanistan, the golden triangle, which was louse vermont, now known as myanmar and thailand. we know that open ways are a problem all around the world. now, what. ringback tell us about the us role in the opium trade and what was the purpose of proliferating such drugs around the world. the early days it was the, the is of the vietnam war. during those years i happened to be on an under cover deep cover assignment. in thailand, in cambodia, during that time, i was later assigned to follow something called the shan united army. so these,

these will be an army in that that particular zone of tribesmen who move through the jungles carrying rough opium from the production place to where we're starting to heroin and bank up around bank to this. this organization was funded, run projected by central intelligence. then you have all you have to do is google ever america, c i a drug smuggling. and you, what you learn is that every america was a proxy l line run by the central intelligence for nothing more than traffic in drugs. first of these asia, now what, what was that for, for support in the war in vietnam? that was it kind of a said stop paying for that. what? see, i wanted to keep going. they funded it through the traffic in drugs into the range

range of americans and people. ringback over the world, it was their choice, and there is no one that can argue against that choice. no one is in the position of know what i'm talking to is going to be able to do a damn thing about this. and i know that. so i guess i'm doing, i'm doing this for posterity because it's almost no, it's not funny. i'm going to say it's almost your point. it's not a joke. but i think that that agency really has gotten us in terrible trouble. and then those we're real estate going because there's nothing to stop to run this country. all right, more with michael levine when we return coming up next. if you thought americas pentagon budget was huge, the illegal drug trade is a very close 2nd. next, find out if drug trafficking is actually a tool of the c a and we'll discuss it when we return. so type m o will be right

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so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy on foundation. let it be an arms race based on all sides. very dramatic. the only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very unclear to get a time time to sit down and talk i the the welcome back to the m. o. i, manila chan retired under cover d e a agent mike levine is staying with us. now mike, today the former golden triangle is a major producer of math. the mexican drug. cartels are a major producer of other types, synthetic drugs like fentanyl. while it's true that you know the u. s. has plenty of homegrown labs for synthetics, a lot of drugs make it into the us from abroad. the us is only 5 percent of the

world's population, but it has over 20 percent of the world attics. the last several years, the u. s. is hovering at about a $100000.00 overdose deaths per year. why are americans seemingly more addicted than other populations around the world? it's a complicated answer, but it's, it's one i can answer. i wrote a book called fight back, and if i back, i researched the nations and societies and coaches that effectively one of the drug was huge, huge population of aeronautics, for instance, in china before mount se so took over it. most people who really have no knowledge and say, oh, well yeah, he told everybody what everybody was dealing at drugs. that wasn't the case at all . what he did was he recognized that this was an a problem of supply of drugs. as we tell our children, this is a supply of peer pressure. they believe what it was,

it got you into using when at the a well 40000000000 aeronautics when small states on took over now not com. i'm not a political guy in any way. so, and they're selling communist to some of the areas may say he is just a fact where he may be a, the policy of the government for each neighborhood, for each community to be responsible for the addicts in that community. each community was responsible for keeping them, getting them off drugs and keeping them off drugs. there were very few executions, but what they did was they recognized that by telling people that you are a victim of drugs that the, the availability of drugs makes you a drug addict, which is what we tell our children. you are assuring that they will go into they

will, it's not my fault. they all feel like companies put it on the street. i had to take it because it's on the street. what's the worst thing you can do every re, all the research i did said the very worst thing you can do is tell children that they can't resist. the availability of drugs is the reason they take drugs. that's just not so, you know, the reason they take drugs is pressure. the reason they take drugs is julia, the reason they say drugs is something you'd have to find for from each case, but has nothing to do with the availability of drugs. and the worst thing you can do is say the availability of drugs makes you an ad. now, my boat 5 back was, was ruled up was a judge by the swedish quantity institute as the only anti drug book ever to come out of america. it made any sense at all. so those of you with

people with drug problems in your family, i urge you to get to book this for fight back, but by mike live in my researches in there. and i think you should at least find it very interesting. but what you stop listening to is that the over like companies that somehow made your children victims opiates, by making them available. and again, that's the worst thing you can tell children. is it a bug in the system that these overseas drug operations boomerang home to the us? or is that a feature of the system for americans here at home was invited to speak at a uh, an international drug symposium in paris by the french drum. and one of the other speakers there was a michelle just as asking, he was it at an advisor to the international monetary fund. he was a professor of economics at university of what we became friends. when do we become

friends? when he, on the stage, this audience for $5600.00 experts and agents from all over the well, he said if america stop buying drugs, because it could conceivably cost cause and international banking price. that's how the drug economy, as well as way into world economy. so your guess is as good as mine, what is the, the, the implication that some of you guys listening who may be economic expert way because and not an economic expert. but those words with showing i think, the very accurate, i think they're still accurate to this day. and what role do elicit and drugs play in the world of geo politics? and would you go as far as to say that drug trafficking is actually a tool of the c i a to achieve certain geo political goals?

that's what i've been talking about to the list. if our that's exactly what it is. you political goal during vietnam was killed economies. yeah. how do you do that? support the drug trafficking opposition to that cut to south america during iran contra. so let's go with the c. i a is get the left this out. if you read my book, the big white light, it's all about that. we were under cover deep cover. we had penetrated the biggest drug carto on earth at that time. and this was secret. send it secret testimony before the senate and the 1st people to come out. but yes, the central intelligence try to destroy the case. they wanted to get the video galer government. what was a left his government in bolivia, which was the chief supplier of rock cocaine and well, then what did he get out of power because she was a less yes. well,

she was helping d. e a. bring down the cartels. so they, for mentees to the agents a, the most the bloodiest revolution in bolivia, history, cocoa, they call it the cocoa revolution. and they, they show they, they had to re learned all the, all of the lady again with government. they were destroyed. they were out who took over that government under the ca is protection. what they call the coaching. we saw say, gomez. e then took it over and it was the minnesota. ok. see i yes. now go back to afghanistan. in the 1980s, russia spent a decade there at war. the us only recently wrapped up it's 20 year campaign. they're both countries point 2 asked in opium as the cause for rise and white

addiction. specifically right now on the rise in russia, turkey and iran, according to a 2009 statement from tim jones, the da's ashtray at the us embassy in moscow at the time. mister jones said this quote to unless we work together and attack this problem as a joint effort, we're not going to be able to make the difference that we need to make. now that the us is in effect, locked in a new proxy war with russia, some even say a cold war. what does that mean for the world of drug trafficking? opium, since afghanistan does produce over 90 percent of the world. opium is just words that they have to produce to fulfill the bureaucratic jobs. means that the operation burns a 1st in olivia was exactly that you, when you, when it burned out the, the coco lease just burned it out. well, it was

a success in the living and people site, sorry, we had it back out. that's a, that's a fact. it was such a sham this the we had, i wrote about it and so i think we, we won, we won. why didn't we keep doing it now? because the fact the fact of the matter is to many people make a living, living port, crown scraping people, make a living off of this. so what do you want to do? what's the point? some political purpose of making them stop, you know, it is, this is tough question. but the questions about reality is what it is. fact is we can't do that stuff. when we did uh, back in 1971, i think it was 72. we put the turkish opium farm is out of this we, we got them in to the president nick president nixon. it's time i had

a deal with them that stopped them from glowing the the poppy leaves and the conception of there was a prime source arrow. and that immediately there was a panic and he with immediately what happens is when started coming in from other countries, mexico became a prime of 5 supplier heroines brought down who it was so few, it's kind of like stink seeking. you figure that i just stopped the ocean, you know it's a, it's bizarre. yeah. we spend billions going just that sticking fingers and bikes just so we could say, look what we do a look. you know, this is what we're spending billions of dollars. of course, a lot of it going to us your address in salaries, but i'll give you all the words you want to know. and that's what tim and these are actually doing that this the job. there's no credit. you know, i was, i was a country attache. i had to make statements. no,

i don't know tim is d e a and i, i believe he's a, a country either shade or a official signed to the country. so i know the job. i know. i know what it is to bureau credit your yeah. michael levine, retired d e a. an author check out his books at michael levine. books dot com. thank you so much, sir. to say thank you. it's really been my pleasure. that is good. i do it for this week's episode. i'm modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy. i'm your host manila chance. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next week to figure out the m. o. the

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