and this is why the tool where been values has now less credibility. and why the global south here, any more about rules space or the? well, exactly, peter, if i go to you in washington, i mean, it is, it's just not international law. it's actually a civilizational difference to, i mean we, the western western countries are so out of touch with how the rest of the world actually thinks and act and their aspirations as well. and so as for exporting their so called values, which i'm from the west, and i don't adhere to those values, the global south them and the global majority, they find it very alienating. and why should they follow of the west, the west, or the former colonial b o rulers over them. and they know exactly what western dig tap can come of. go ahead, john. a. yeah, i think the west has been really surprised by the,

the close out for reluctance to target. right. so for the warranty crane um, you know, obviously it's different across the global south, which is a diverse group of dozens and dozens of the countries and within the global south as well. what i think the, the west has been very shocked by the global south reluctance to join them with sanctions and a lot of the other measures taken against russia. and i think that was a bit of a reality cool score of. ready of policy makers in the west? well, alexandra, in, in vienna, one of the things i find very curious is that it's, it's interesting how the global south, the global majority, i like global majority. not only do they disrespect is peter is pointed out here. they're not as afraid of the west as they used to be, because they have their own assets, their own international institutions, and their own. a foreign policies. i mean,

one of the best examples is how china in this calendar year is stepped up and dealt with issues between saudi radian, iran has proposed a platform for a peace process and ukraine called that's coming from the global south. it's not coming from the west. alexander a yeah, this is totally correct. and i guess the reason is of the global saw actually results from the new institutions congress like russia, china, but also referral in yet filled up during the last case. like for example, um the biggest one is all the shanghai corporation organization bar. we had this so called rebate international on up to west which was basically a uni paula dictate mission or want the global it was try to dictate everyone. what do you have to do? and to show just in a scan, this done in the rock and libya,

what happens if you don't follow his orders? and this will actually the result. the reason why, for example, russia's better had of the concept of multiple walls and gardens together with honor the congress of the global saw like china, brazil, india, to actually establish a different kind of world order, where all the different utilize the issues are respected. and where it's not like in the west to do any pull the order while you can only follow western civilization . and if you are not western, you are something below is human. and i guess this is the reason why and all the global solve is stronger than them. and if you look at the economic data, of course, the brakes are slowly but sadly optim actually the g 7 states. yep. and this means that the future will be multiple out that it will be much more

a split of global sauce, and to much less a degree, by the way, quote, well peter, you know, we hear this rules based order thing. i mean, i've made many programs about it because it's, it's so hypocritical and so nonsensical and actually very, very dangerous here. but really, this is a cover for cont, uh, maintaining had gemini, that's what it really is all about. i mean, you can throw all the cultural stuff in virtue signaling and you know, as long as it takes. so all of this, a babbling, but it's actually about maintaining had gemini. and this is what makes it very dangerous, because the hedge bond doesn't give up easily. peter, it is indeed a hedge on it. let's say we went for an economic expo. the rat was the fashion now. it weighed more more by economic means and the main method is sanctions. most the sanctions,

the operating in the world today do not have un approval. they all googly illegal, wrecking un approval and, and indeed have been condemned by um, personality that at the united nation, the sanctions on, on syria are a particular case in point the united states and its allies practicing sanctions against period could be taken to the international court of justice on charges of collective punishment because the sanctions country to the misleading claims of the with the fact is the growth population. and this is sanctions, wicker and uh, can sometimes back fire. this is happening in the gulf when you ran retaliated when in 2019,

on the pressure from the united states when united states navy, within that thing, uranium oil shipments and the name of the unilateral sanctions, italians were re retaliated by reportedly hinting on saudi or refinery yep, and this is a template tool, moments and very timely, at this particular juncture. now with these breaking out between these 2 important members of the global majority, you ran and saudi arabia of saudi arabia realized at that point in time, that being an hour i, the united states was not an advantage, but a disadvantage. yep. well, have a are and later look at what the saudis and what the saudis found out is all the expensive military trinkets that they bought from america doesn't protect them. okay. the patriot missiles don't work. okay. they're not working in ukraine either

. john, it's an interesting thing bringing up sanctions because it's really just that you can always divide the world in a lot of different ways. but there's one way that's really quite interesting. you can divide the world up countries that are under sanctioned by the united states or countries and by military hardware from the united states. that's a very interesting division right there. and the sanction museum says at all, because you have to be afraid more of the us treasury department than the defense department. go ahead, john or i. yeah, absolutely. and i think uh, what we've seen with these sections is that russia is not like north korea or on, or even around where i can try and sanction those countries. but russia is far too big for that. and i think you've seen the backlash toward the, with things like the dollar i zation initiatives, site and other things that i just reactions to the west in the imposition of sanctions and the kind of willingness of much of the world to go along with them.

so so you see these things like the dollar as ation and other things they got steam because one rush is just too big to sanction the same way that the west is used to with other countries. and that it's just a popular thing to do right now. because of russia's role in the global economy and it's, it's a connectedness with much of your asia. so, so i think, uh, the backlash is natural, and it will probably meet increase qual, alexander in vienna. i mean, it kind of bucks the trend here. i actually liked the sanctions because i want russia and the global south to move away from the west from there, toxic financial institutions there. coersion, it's time to move away from it. it may be painful, but i think it's a it's, it's the right direction. 30 seconds to my friend and we'll come back to you after the break. go ahead, alexander. it's not absolutely correct, and i guess it's the best, the global soften dresser. and there are toxic relationship with the with because

unfortunately, the current western global leadership is in so far on the same as they still believe, been wisdom supremacy over the rest of the world. they believe steps down, well use are superior to all the other. well, using all the other civilizations. okay, i got, i have to interrupt it. we have to go to a hard break. we're going to come back to here. i'm going to, we're going to go with a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the international order saved with our to the the most recent news. munoz curtis. imagine if you speak russian, keep your voice down while out and about. so we talked about the titles for that's supposed to talk about getting put your human symbols on display the decision space, reach the guide. so you guys don't talk to strangers,

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believing that the results would you 20. and then would you do me a solution for sure. and i'm comfortable to much what, which insidiously simpler process the . welcome back across the top where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the international order. the ok, let's go back to alexandria in van and before we, i'm, i'm sorry, i had to cut you up. we had to go to a hard break. but you said something in your to respond to so far is fascinated me . but you bring up civilization and this is something the west has since be within one size fits all. the world needs to be recreated in the, in the west, the image because god's data of course. and so basically they're the new gods. they

are the new deity, but it's very interesting when you say, when i look at, when we look at the relationship that china and russia have with the ran a, a, with a countries, an advocate, they're all different civilizations. and they're trying to find a harmony, a synchronization, but it is, it's built on more than western values, which report to me are completely fake alexander to yeah, i absolutely agree. the problem is that the west field tries to impose its well use on all the other civilizations around the globe, and that is still the lease that she's the only civilization. but of course, this is not true. you also have to rush in your ration civilization. got the training and civilization and media and civilization and many more. and i guess the most important aspect of the upcoming multiple order, which is now spare headed by russia in china, is that we come back to the agreement that they are wherever you are civilizations

around the globe. instead, they all need to be respected in the values and that you are not allowed on an international level through um, simply um, the schoolmaster um, all the other civilizations around and tell them what they have to do. i know it gets put away. this is wary um good thing um the car in the political costs of the west to simply insanity. and when you realized that to get some less besides by the other civilizations and has the wrong come to its own term and maybe also think about its own role in the walls. maybe the west can come back to its senses and become a normal civilization among all the other civilization. well, that's a, that's an interesting prospect. i think you have to have a reckoning before we even get close to that and, and it brings everybody else down in the process here. you know, peter, one of the, if you wanted it,

we'd be interested in characters that we have on the international sites as joseph burrell, which he is, you know, i, i've never come across a leading, quote, unquote politician. that self owns himself. every time he opens his mouth, because i'm sure you remember his cold comments about the garden, but the west is the garden and everybody else has the jungle again, you know, he, dyslexia is it said the quiet and park outside that is exactly how these are leads these new liberal leads few about the rest of the world. it's just a jungle and we have to reform them and you know what? the global south, they're making games here and they're listening to these before and talk like this . they are not serious people. i mean burrell, go ahead, peter. yes, the grill is language to give us the game away. now, this has been neo colonial mindset. speaking with the com, differentiation towards the rest of the well, the, the, the americans and europeans pride themselves on what day they come. ready with saw

how it, i know that cultural input and this time is also a give away. how is all about exercising power over others and that, and if it's not just the gap and universities and capitalism and the but they smuggle in all the values. so whole values within the 1st 2, which is subset of and to the west and power themselves. and they've had a lot of success. the years in recent decade we actually many of the russians who saw how that fled russia in the last 2 years. and good reading, so i would say to a film called of the but china needs also to be careful that it

is not corrupted by this element of west and our well i, i, you took the words out of my mouth. i mean i, i could make a separate program on, on how western so called values have infiltrated russian. how people struggle with it. it is a struggle and it is not a done deal. you have to mean there is a 5th column here. um, though their, their level of influence has gone wayne considerably since the conflict and you'd write down, let me, it looks like we can talk about ukraine here because again, this kind of western air, again, some one of the things that, i mean i can't even count the number of programs i've made about ukraine since the start of this special military operation. but the vocabulary of the west is always force and subjugation. they never talk about peace. and that's the problem john. yeah, i think uh, you know, over the last 2 years i think it is reflected about the internal political,

the areas of the us where you people go to win or lose. and there's no middle grounds, no of police initiative because it's sort of in that times more you have to win or you have to lose. and there has to be a clear winner and a clear lose. and so the idea that you have to suffice until that is clear, i think, is very slow and um and it has led to a big increase in violence. and so i don't think the, the desire for peace is in the west right now, because like i said, someone's going to win and someone has to lose. and they may, many people would like to see rush or lose a. so, you know, they're going to keep supporting you crying and giving weapons to ukraine to ensure that the war is, goes on until ukraine is in a position of the west. feels that they can win. but i don't think we'll ever get to that. so yeah, i think, i don't think they'll be much of

a ukraine last. okay. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary about nato. is it not? is not even involved in the conflict? well, yeah, i mean you did. ukraine is being it slowly, but surely being devastated and at what cost to the united states. well, just printing money. okay. alexander, one of the things, you know, i, i could remember months before the start of the complex on this program that has been deleted from youtube. i told everyone a complex is coming and there's an easy way out. it was something that was agreed upon in the 19 seventy's, the indivisibility of security. that's where you need to start, that will solve the conflict right away. every country has a right to security. the west denies russia security and since it will not talk about peace will not recognize security, the war will continue alexander it is um yeah,

absolutely correct. cuz the problem of the west is that it's um, still strongly known, forwarded to the document for the in boston, and the nature of the inbox from the european union. but what it doesn't realize that even western civilization as fathers. and unfortunately, the west doesn't want to realize that that's the reason why russia was actually forced to show that with its own bodies to show the west its place. and this is the reason why this conflict actually existence is not because um, roches one on the ring, but because the way itself unprovoked russian to a certain degree that it has. but it didn't have any other choice than just that being here. and the treachery just conflict in your brain is actually the result of western regression which did installed in 2022, but already in 2014 thing. and uh, i guess the best thing would be if the web, what's become finely reasonable. and um, listen to the wife as a piece,

which of course also exist inside with it. um the more passages the glass on the populace drive, which i want to make peace and um, and this was crazy conflict. and i guess it's about the way to answer is conflict and now the bald russia, just the aggression clearly thomas from the west side. yeah. well peter is because of the way the international order was designed, particularly after the, the end of the cold war. it had and the, the west had no checks and balances. and when a hedge yvonne has no checks and balances, it makes really out outrages decisions a rack of syria, a libya, there's no checks and now there is ukraine. is the crucible, it's a check. okay. and this is something the west cannot recognize because they, they, history is linear for them that and you know, they, they, they, they, they ultimate victory, b, b, the entire world will look like the west. well, that's not going to happen. that's a delusion. and ukraine is paying the price,

peter, or that, that, that's right. and the peoples of the west have 15 grain washed really nicely from the pool here a 60, which was most recently the, the, your edition home comcast, which was an all g o g of ukraine failure. it was growth task and shaming for the city. i live at pool, which i love, but this is symptomatic. there is only one narrative committee. and in most of the country is of the, of the, with the peoples of brain life. there is no policy in the past with well, issues like getting uh, a rack that were big mt will apply to. this does not exist anymore. we called also democracy. so the only choice is between

a pepsi and coke. yep. you know, a job be a, um, you look very useful, its a compliments you know, but i to, i obviously remember the origins of the iraq war and then afterwards say, oh, we know, we will never make that mistake again. you know, we, you know, we're, we'll be very careful. we won't be, we won't follow the, the powers, it'd be, this is a 100 a 1000 times worse, as peter just said, go ahead joe. a. uh yeah, and i think the rest of the was uh, very much vividly remembers, uh, the lead up to the iraq war, the whole global war on terror, which is still ongoing in many areas. i mean, we only just got out of afghanistan, not even 2 years ago. so to have this, there's no, you know, black slight that the west feels it has and they have all this moral rights or moral uh no. right to impose themselves on the rest of the world. so i think,

you know, it was the memory of the rock was still in very much the rest of the world's mind. i think just and all pushed back against the west of narratives. ukraine. yeah, well it, it, me, well, if you have control all the levers of power, social media and all of it is easy just to deep 6 down the rabbit hole history, even history, that wasn't that long ago. gentleman. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guest and watch it in liverpool and in vienna. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time and remember prospect pools the, the turkeys already and they told me their entry keys already doing its share as

a nate on ethics. but it's not going by some of the american ideas of kind of we cannot make them. our goal is a guess rush, i think directv will continue, and that's only because the relationship may be beneficial economically. it's also because russia has to be a partner in maintaining the international orange the, the, the the, the only slow for the low step in this concept. the concept that i q as when from the, from the, as always, from the end of the do it in bt dufrane, the a gift away. and the politicians gives us an edge the

shift store was deliver the same little ball communication. just meet the needs with the loading is a little bit of competing the store so they need to with up to usually to easy to fix. that would be a good always symptom of that kind of the just putting on gross issue, the assistance they need to know something like that. you will think about this, the opportunity to it is a better step in this. go see this material, but it looks fairly close, but even in this, okay, you me to locate the slide show me. i'm still open and it doesn't happen often the degrees of the me have yet to me seek those trends. okay. yes, please. and your opinion on this matter, you have some of the most the most out of special this is a things you need to, can you please get the,

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