the, the below and welcome to crossed out. were all things are considered non beautiful of elk. there are reports, the binding ministration may push to turn the ukraine conflict into a frozen conflict. this is on many levels. first of all, washington claims not to be part of the conflict. and most importantly, why in the world with moscow settled on terms set by the americans, the who discuss these issues and laura and joining by my guess, george, send me well we in budapest, he's a pod cast or the gospel which can be found on youtube and locals in worthy we have anthony webber, p. as an independent political commentator for

a gentleman across the roles. in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with george in budapest, george, i'm sure you're just as well as a where is the rest the best the there been this talk. i generally comes from politico. we can have a separate program on that. i think one day. but this talk of a, of a, a frozen conflict along the lines of the korean peninsula goodwill. obviously the conflict between 19151953. well, i guess we can entertain the thought. that's why we're doing the program. but with not signal just the for both sides. george, it definitely would be. it's hard to know how serious does it take these kinds of uh, stories. but it is understandable why the united states might be uh, inclined to was uh, something of that nature. because basically then no one admits the feed. admittedly, no one proclaims victory, but the means that the wall effectively continues. so, in this it is in effect,

be like the minutes agreements. you pretend that somehow, well, we bought an agreement, we got a piece, but you use the intervening time to just keep beefing up the arms. i don't really think that the united states is thinking in terms of um, uh, career because of the career that's been peace now for 70 years. and i don't think the americans are really, is thinking of a 70 is a piece. i think much more likely that they, they're thinking in terms of a breathing space and then stopped the whole thing up again in 56 years time. so, but korea sounds good, isn't it? what was 70 is a piece a, that's not, that's all about agreement. but um, as, as you said, be the, this is certainly not be a good deal for russia by any stretch of the imagination. no, i wouldn't be at the strategic defeat interest in my opinion. you're a anthony,

but there's nothing to this we've. we've been playing a word game with this because just as a judge has already alluded to this, there be nothing frozen about it. so today, i mean both sides, and particularly nato would be very busy, busy like bees. um, integrating your brain completely and fully into the military alliance and office 600 different toys, machine systems, they're sending their, which is really, i mean, i'm not even, i'm in a military. remember, that's just ridiculous. they don't talk to each other. the systems, you know it's, it's overly complicated. there's no training much involved. and so this is kind of par school is george has already told us here, i mean, so wait for another 5 years, so you can give it another crack at the, at the dumbass. i don't think any, what's in the kremlin thinks that way. this may be just kind of political cover, the kind you will look, you know, we can find a compromise. we compromise comes from us, which is nonsense, anthony. your thoughts? yes, of course a, but it wouldn't be a compromise way. they have to go by. so walks often i would say maybe disagreement

which was broken by the crime, but because it's not the, the sites and the cycle. but so the media i think is probably can by our key. 1 western countries, other goals since marco and maxwell and protect our values, the trying to have from united trees are just a mess it by actually use. i mean it's the grievance to um, did i print the position upside. 1 besides that, and uh sorry, sorry it was happened. i think is such a rush. i will have no trouble. so either in anything which is but it could buy something off for tom. sure is. i think this is why initiatives by countries such as this, oh, about the arabs, a by some african countries which have more jobs to vegas says say,

listen to you by russia. because the trust is the only thing is absolutely major thing because you got it back in 5 months ago, which offers. uh gosh, i think it was positive, right? you got a monitor fashion. so, um, uh, there was a reasonable, high amount of trust that no one called you about, you know, you dropped the price in terms of what happened. but uh, but the twins, the service i have a degree of trust, but that is going on uh, looking at it for the price points to be i think this is better, may zip longer with foreign policy because who's obviously going to trust the united kingdom now and who's the, who for that? so that my see lots of sites as well because if i can really say i say side, oh we go to sam's shoulder to shoulder with. are you crying way and prep that but yeah, i'd say sort of thing sponsor this. i saw you got so we have to have people when my

the balance of the tower, but i'm with no real human rights. and as i said, she's the, she's pausing for a new crime because i got married for the media and i'm afraid press cool. the system of the boss are low, so it says disaster set trays should be separate. um, i called say no, uh russia, 3rd grade and so they stayed in price and i'm from the point of did you try? we called her for. ready hospice to can said, do we need it to be completely finished? because our economy is suffered and truck for a free died. the people of the united kingdom, a software gigabyte, great as a dry. and it's a long tenable situation. unfortunately, the popular to be a big and large share about what's going on and they all policies are vol,

seasonal. i a public, they're based on the issues. but i mean there was more debate about cove and george the there your good. let's look at some of the characters here. i mean, why in the world with zalinski agreed to something like this? he went, okay. i mean, i get all the people around him. you know, we, you know, with the, the, there is some of the lunacy around him. we're going to get a liberated crimea by christmas. i mean, you know, he can, but the trend he is, he's all in or all out. george the you're exactly right these up and when you think about this, the g 7, the summit that's just taking place in iraq's, you lot of all places. um and uh with uh, use the landscape showing up and the g 7, you know, we're, we're all and you know, whatever it takes then you know, we're going to keep going. it's very hard or decline down from that position to say,

well, ok, what we said, the way we're all in and we want to liberate all of your brain is there or treat what will settle for. 5 an arm is this, uh, i'm on the lines of a 3 and it can be done. and i, that's why i don't really think that this is a serious option. that may well, the people within the us administration who's think uh, sensitively about these things. i don't think the board needs to come to an end, but they are over whelmed by the are the important voices in the administration. of course, in congress that we have to press on for you know, victory and think she's a identify is a little different from that of the landscape. i don't think they care that much about liberating this, the liberating that but just to bleed or actually just to keep this role going. the drain roster. and then to bring about political tales crisis in russia and then the disintegration of the russian federation. i think that's the objective now the

ukraine blaze on a very small part in this. i mean, however many ukrainians are killed. the united states couldn't care less. i mean the to them ukraine is just simply a count on father and for the europeans. that's just cheap labor day, so you have to bring them in. and the ukranian women and you know, there's just sex workers, but that's, that's the use for the ukraine. the goal is to the destruction of russia. it's one of the things george and i talked about in our pod cast may. heinz is um, i wonder how his student future historians will look at the behavior of the ukrainian or elite. i mean, you know, we'll give you everything to a, to fight with. all you have to do is give your own blood. i mean, i've never seen a, a national, a lead, so willing to do this to their own people. because at the end of the day, my friends, what exactly is ukraine gotten out of this except for a huge grant that the top anthony well, of course we have to have that in mind,

right? so a groups of people surrounding. so i'd sca 8 type go for a richard control and the, the normal people to be crazy. all things are larger voice. i more more people. why do you cry? who are the ones that items? so this will undergo sky and bucket and saw this will happen because of the american news 5 to to time 2014, which just followed by president savanski they elected on would you believe a platform a piece started? he's what later on that. but i see uh, looking at the position of landscaping probably on some level as well. i can't see once it gets out, but the congress or power since their capital case, but they know mainly the young either crime in back moment. what was the said becomes more my are also after talking to you as well as inside the country. i

don't see how he can continue, because it will be show maurice lloyd to designing people. so to wells fargo, i take a set so this key is not offered to started typing in the united kingdom because look at, look at your head. i can see about one of the all should, this is going to be a change of leadership of the crate. and so obviously we lost the also have a safe place to guys to buy longer for is supposed to populate the united states. but the reality is actually signed by utah, but if i try to print out the policy of the united states, uh it's, it's, it's interesting when you say begin chip a charge, it doesn't solve the dire strategic problem. that your grain has, it doesn't matter who's going to be running the shop. okay. so they got this guy who will go on the emmys in the boat magazine and all that. but yeah, i, i see the utility in that,

but it doesn't create results for ukraine of side as i'm going to repeat again, big risk that the top george. no, it doesn't the top and that's the is the tragedy of a you bring in your bought into the nonsense the west was peddling either you would have thought they love all the lessons from, from the pos, from the west though. so you live, i will, they will look out the will, will, will be guarantee of that freedom, democracy, prosperity and so on. and they bought into it and it was so far it doesn't look like they realized to what kind of a catastrophe victoria knew. and then, and the rest of them broke, they knew exactly what they were, the public a little that they wouldn't go to provide any kind of freedom, democracy, or prosperity. they just wanted them for their geo political. and so until there is some kind of realization among the ukrainian leaders that were, it's just, we're destroying our country by attaching ourselves to west the strategic

objectives of the just going to go down this box. i'll just losing them then by the 10s of thousands. not, no gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine state bar to the time of acceptance. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show it seriously. why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do i have the state department to see i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you

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the, the welcome back across stuff you are, all things are considered. i'm people about this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news the in my introduction, anthony, you know, one of the things that is very curious to me is that again, it's political being the, the outlet talking about this. apparently they're very close to everybody and they

tell them the administration maybe political works for them. again, maybe you're talking to the public brian the other day. but you know, the arrogance of it all. first of all, being done for over a year now pushing the task which was not unprovoked, it was one of the most finely planned and executed provocations of all time. okay. and so you have the americans now thinking, well, maybe we need to cease fire and why? again, you're your point to have trust. you know, why would the russians trust this? but the russian authorities have to look at what their own people have to say about this. and a ceasefire is the last thing after what has been, what is happen, all of the sanctions of loss of young men on the battlefield. there is no appetite for that at all. just to reverse the appetite is, let's finish it off. anthony. well, yeah, so i think cool along the dispatcher for, for washington minutes and the russian people ways is a dog. this goes down, say,

even the cache shoes because of the europe in preston, uh, with side bets. um the, the, the base, the guy stations shouldn't fail my mate, coo braces, which worksheet about it. but it shouldn't be cool for russia, which is actually just crazy because then, but uh, the, the, the officers say they weren't be cool for you crying because your claim is a fax of a year to pay and the presumption or having to come condition way, surrender because they come so far as i die without continuing supplies, a rapid rate, and i hate for them. so i rested in countries. i'm the old ready that asylum said in the united states and other countries who are citing the you guys that it's called slippery and i'm, i'm so this. so we come to it forever. yeah,

we have received should not be kind of convert this to the fax will be signing for i, but won't people forget about is none of these comp, j. c, k, u s. i or some other countries in the u advice? i know it's my fault of mine, right? but my people say, gets involved in this, this makes the question anthony, you know, you're ok. so give us a, you know, and up close and personal view of it here. so we have the current, the british prime minister, i mean is, is you claim a winning issue for him because that's what he looks like. he's, he's always people, you know, they're trained up to this issue and that is a lose lose issue for everybody, but touches it. explain to us. well, it's like it's almost a sort of desperation. uh, certainly with a b. i. 16. 05 to chat. so i'm gonna try next week because it's quite clear this has been done in preparation in pub process say,

but you guys are in defense. today's in fact the guy is actually reducing the size of a psalm forces. yeah, install. knowing this full, you'd find the site, it's almost like it was trying to die spite the kind of government. but i didn't care if you look about something brief, treat progresses, all of it, even if i brush she the same policy on the cried. so it does, but you are a who is the power behind the see who is like the racing, the government subsidy these up, these policies which were currently there's boss. and finally, i think we all know the answer just because i know it seems something, you know, george, it's something you know, talking about at great length and, and i am in the u. k. political establishment is a, is a case in point is a, you know, you have all of this big capture. i mean, we have, you know, you and i looked at the public and the public opinion polls. but go into the details. you know, the headline is, you know, support for your grade roommate,

but if you go in the read the details, it's not the case at all. okay. i mean, so and then, and then this is very much us and we capture um, which i take it with without any kind of a positive. and we can debate what that means, positive results, and why continue this this endeavor, because there is no goal outside of what you said in the 1st part of the program. and that is a certificate to feed progress it well, it's not in the cards. so if it doesn't, you don't succeed. why do you continue the same policy? george, the doors to explain how insane people think it's a tough question. go ahead. it is an animal. that's what happens when you have a kind of political media lead that lives in the bubble because of the, the politicians who make these decisions. the only time they ever have to off us are any questions comes from a lot of dishes, similar to themselves or the media in the media. oh,

really awesome the question as well. are you doing enough for ukraine? when are you going to deliver this? i'm is zalinski says he needs that when is that going to happen? is level or a do the kind of questions that the voters us which is how come yes, you have money for this. but you don't have any money for uh, social services or subsidies for storing food and energy prices. you know, that you never have any money bought. and that's that. and that's the case. you know, not just in the u. k, but you know, in germany and then when the bad bought was a characteristic german brutality said, i don't care what my boat to say. i'm just going to go ahead and do whatever i can for your brain. so it's already in grain within this lead that that highest priority is ukraine. and no matter how many times editor of the populace in the united states will say, well, how come your more concerned with the boulders of your brain then with your own borders, which you don't care about? well, i say they're above. that's exactly right. we don't care about the voters that's,

that's nothing. we only care about the ukraine as well. that's the primary we have in the lead. that is entirely the kind of a self referential that's why we georgia maloney was supposed to make this big change in it too. late and the because of those on the day before the election posted up on the line, i'm just have the tools and lo and behold, she is a tools and georgia maloney fellow the like in like the end of the also in the last newsletter. so we, there are reports with the upcoming nato summit. the nato is gonna draw a russell award plan, but the 1st time since the cold war. but that's interesting. okay, because it's a very different nato than it was when the cold war came to an end. and nato is presumably going to have a more plan on a, a subject where they have no definitive outcome. i mean, what,

how can you make more plans when you don't know if your brain is even going to exist? or it is partially going to exist. a run state is it, you know, we'll have, you know, a word poland you'll have to germany may be the be hum, gary and minority and you in ukraine has their own ideas, your, to those that i'm talking about there. i mean, i've always done this planning planning, so really kind of interesting and basically just for p r because helping you put make plans when you're on a rolling floor. well i is, there is like a big the privacy is where you have to look up. well, shopping, good nights, fiber and after the last she is very complicated. so and some of the principal was and i have become she or creation of or organize a shipments on the ship date of concern. so oh, like the light side mondays um suddenly is because uh like, uh i could protect for 8, but he's actually done the nitrate and you're right. 5 is the largest size,

but it's also a silver fraction of the united states because of the state of the american people themselves haven't paid off or out of this move animal like direction buffy. diesel haines. i say to uh, creates a state of perpetual war of regarding the crime and whether it's cited cold price or not. it's uh, it, it does creates a division between russia and some other countries in the world. but we have to remember some of these conferences in the well, what should type of price range. so each a sudden that hardly can we also can some nice and so they shot but i certainly talk cheese high. i lost the confidence. so the rest of the world and the, um, uh, america speed and the same side of the site, but i'm off the united kingdom body side. but he's been saying to be sort of

a way to show up to your types of sites. you know, as i say about the united states and without upsetting a world which is but boulevard suite, as most people are outside the k, most countries, while they're not simple as a sign since against russia, because i know it's not that bad for us yet the united kingdom is just pronounced, some of us like the certificate software which together really badly are pack purchase business and we have about a month. but the thought to keep them this friday, they've process for some trainees that are getting back to these top with the plug it in, but more so forth about the issue. and then the whole we, we, uh, the government home full shade is the set, but they don't even care about, but she's paying business. so that's a lot of the pressures population. this gets down to just, you know, what is it, george mean it's, it's,

it's ideologically driven. it is emotionally driven. it's messy amik, lisa phobia. i mean it's a very weird mixed salad here because o benefits outside of arms, producers don't know, george, nobody benefits. and what, and what you just said about this, a nato planning, this causes a piece of the seed because during the cold war, the nato have only one scenario, which is russian attack or so. so in the diagram that's in and then they will go into action based on what's happening this time of cause nato is still pretending that it's defensive. but essentially different does indeed get to anom confrontation with robert. it will be as a consequence of aggressive actions by nature. it's because nato is essentially been waging a proxy war against russia using ukraine, but could easily get out of control the lots of warnings and then by will be

a will later. so nato is a lying by saying, well, we was all defensive, defensive, know the course of aggressive action by nature. before we end here, everybody likes to talk about article 5. but what is article one of the tree the 30 seconds before we go to the article. article one is that will nato power of committed to resolving all disputes with non native bows in an exclusively peaceful fashion. if you don't follow that, then all the go, 5 of the go 9, nothing. none of that applies 10 seconds to infinity. finish it out for us as well . a larger size. we'll have to height that some of the safer vials in the over. um, simple as the weights obviously i wish i could be the anyway, the just fascinating the discussion gentlemen, but we'll see you if rosen conflict is of labor of the week. okay. and that's all

the time we have. i wanna thank my guessing where they had in budapest and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our pc and next time. remember about stock is the the, [000:00:00;00]

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