tv Interview RT May 22, 2023 9:30am-10:01am EDT
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of the sex, some of them are even denying that they're saying that no such a deal was struck between the, from the government and, and china. so there some of them are incomplete denial. but this even occurred as far as any one to watch, the show or the soap things and escalate that use of mary. thank you so much for joining us. as a, as a present told you, of the sites is in the ball gathering capital through balloons filled with red paint at the impala building and protest of interference by brussels in the countries into a 5 thousands of pods as gathers in the city center and the bible gabby supplying all i'm seeing frame and the end of on, in the countries and strategy we do for this shows the 5 side of the mission covered by paint and people holding cards, the read name to out fall garrett is a piece. so that message is also connected to the signatures cooling for
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a referendum, cold peace and sovereignty from bulgaria. according to the laws of the measure, needs 600000 signatures to move forward. most i said this that you did last spring. you that the breaking news again, president put his press, secretary has informed him of an effort and by you creating services to infiltrate the belgrade region bonds. they made 2 pasco claims that russia has been sufficient or false is on the ground to him, but the sabotage. is there any and some buses, some buses, allegedly, i've seized a code for building in the region and efforts are underway to surround the bicycle into oncoming them, sofas, post a r t. now the rush of energy created a trap for the 7th. those around the billboard and load them into the grey or the the great, the grave or on ski district to eliminate them. there's no information yet about
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oxygen and evacuation passed out of space it to be announced. bob's residents are trying to move out on their own. now, we fully understand the purpose of this kind of sabotage, to divert attention from best moot, and to minimize the political effect of ukraine's loss of our to almost by that route. so this is alice, do check out, bob said council only of the latest news we will be back in just on the 30 minutes . we have to ask that the in your opinion of can there be any events during these 2 weeks period? several fundamentally change the course of the election or by the beginning of the 2nd round. of the question is the actually how much tens of these candidates
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will be having much more advantage for the run off? well, 1st of all, the i see no problem in this coming 2 weeks is there is always room is, you know, in middle east it's like coffee cup or anything. so there is always that conspiracy to you, but it never goes. so i don't think there would be anything annoying in the coming time. also, the government has taken certain measures to prevent any kind of provocative activities. so this is number one, number 2, the election turkey is 1st time experience experiencing a 2nd round. so we will see what the outcome will be, but i don't see any problem over the uh, what do you think about this in, on, on appointments, it goes activities and his role in current selection. when it was very
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courageous, i should say that there was 4 candidates in the beginning, the midst of them lives in, in j and cnn. okay. what applied also for to be candidates and also the they did the incredible thing that because they have to get the signatures from the citizens. it wasn't like a pilot appointing you to be a candidate for presidency, but they had to go out, meet people, get their signatures, and they needed a 100000 signatures. so they both i seem to. so this is very important. and then the due to certain reasons, mister haynes stepped down and the mister, oregon continued and he received. if i am not throng $5.00 or 5.17 percent of the votes. so it's
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a very important thing. activity i should say. yeah, but now many people believe that the voters often on, on will be determining who's going to get the victory in the 2nd round at who do think they will, will it for the, the, the, the of course we don't know yet. so it's just the elections have recently finished, it's a, this is the 2nd day when we're talking now. but in the but when you look at the welters, there was a group one, the republican, the alliance, ours committed to fax. and over there, there was a parties who formed this lines long ago and also on the other side, and one and a half years ago, nearly 2 years know that there was this, the mean, the nation's deadlines. mean that it can, the,
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there was all sorts of priorities which went into your position. nearly formed all parties this, that, but they were the number of 6, but these over there and it, their main objective was, is through the government and the president out of the office that this was and that was clearly they were expecting or gets and let them go, so there was an interesting correlation over that. now, in today we come to the point that there will be a competition between the 2. so when we look at the situation, there is one party or a group, including may have, and other parties which are governing currently. and the ones which don't want this grouped, the governing. so it will be a competition between those 2. now,
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concerning the votes, mr. olga and get a good day. would the people who did the favor in any of this groups like a you know, that they want to change the young people? mostly they say turkey has to have a change. what does the change they don't tell. so most of them don't know the answer of this, but they say we want to change ok. you want to change, but for the cost of what you know is the old politician and i look at this one. i don't see their objective over and on the other side it because as i said previously, the other related to fact of the nation's alliance is a gather bunch of parties. nothing on the idea of logical to get this. nothing on economics politics to get. there's no nothing in the coming. so this young stairs,
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mostly they build them favor, also this group. so they were the people who said no to both sides. so now i'm thinking about them. on the 2nd round to i personally, this is my own personal idea. the, i don't think they've involved if you were to pitch a prime minister of turkey in the past. you are a dispute, the chairman of a and this is moment, but at the same time, yes, the national, smooth ones, party image be insured. and now you are a member of parliament from akbar to your father was the founder of m h b, a mister office on to casual, passed away. and now you as a politician not being from m h b, but being in the same condition with them. and you are now working for akbar t. there's
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a perception that you might be the mediator between sit on on and add ons coalition . so that he may address is walters to cast their ballots up for ad on me. but as i said before, i don't see it that way. number one, yes, i have a national this moment, but the history, but it's now this has, since i'm elected 2 days ago, this is my 3rd term in a quite a to so i have been an unclear to working into pub 2 banks for 8 years now. and the, there is a lot of similar friends in the group because the pull it typically the, the grass roots resemble each other concerning inmate screen with. so i don't think they would be recreating amends you too. and also on the other
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side, as i said, is, i don't think that the voters, the problem is but let me put that this way. in oregon, though he was appointed as a candidate for through 2 parties, but nearly formed by the t's it he got the signatures of citizens. so it isn't the political party organization as adult day as, as i mentioned before, the people who don't favor a quest to but also who don't favor the alternative alliance is to be in power. so these, uh, let's say a protesting group. so i don't think mr. or gun, or any other person or people in the situation would take them to a point to work for i 5 to or the others as soon as my personal opinion. but the,
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the, i don't see as people look at. so it's, you know, it doesn't like a bunch you can take from here and put to the room that's not possible. uh, let's have been not twice per cent, but don't you think that he might have his effect on one or 2 percent of the waters? yeah, well of course he has it, they liked him, they financed him. the he was find that he wasn't financed by the government funds or so, but he was funded by the citizens. so it limits a budget put that importance budget. so of course they have an emotional attachment to each other, but to which extent this will come, you know, when it comes to. okay, well, to me is a different situation. but when you say ok, i'm out now. so please will to the ones which you didn't like in the beginning. so
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that's gonna work. you say, we will see. okay, then honestly speaking, given this fact you're explaining me now. who do you think will been as good the condition of it? you know, because the thing is now 90 percent of turkey went to the bellows. it was very precious. you know, in united states and in the west, let's say the establish democracies. people are reluctant to go and vote in the pull the ticket and in the elections and so, but turkey, we are very fond of the selections, 70 percent, 78 percent, 83 percent in the past elections. and this time, it was nearly 90 percent. people went to the bellows. i'm about to 90 percent of turkey. we have $64000000.00 total walters, including the ones who live experts live abroad. but now we find out
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that 90 percent of just people voted my opinion, is these people which do them favor? the 2 major groups will not go to work. okay, so we'll lift this along. there will be tell you them and his walters and mr. can list that when his welters. so when you look at the numbers, no one is 49.5 percent in the total. walters, 90 percent of the talk is welters. and when it comes down to 80 percent, this number 26000000, i think nearly mr. is going to see it to be a win over 50 percent at what role of church nationalism play in this and actions. i mean, how so? so there are these ideas. now, i mean, if, if you will be fine, so not on as nationalist or internationalists as an independent candidate at the
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same time, he got 5 persons. so what is your take on this? well, the in the western context, you know, nationalism is evaluated different in different parts of the world in the west and context in europe, in context. nationalism is re space some to 1030. we don't accept it like that. we live in a different way. we accept nationalism as the favors of whole people living in this country, no matter what their belief is or the city is. we take the people as a whole and we favor their advantage, the tomorrow will beings and so, so and nationalism is different. but mr. olga and the past is fair to
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practical support to, to who favor to scan to the see they would with district and really strong on the is celia and immigrants overhears. so for uh, the victoria part is if i see verity not less than 2 percent as far as line. yes, but they were the one who promoted mr. olga and the limits as the chairman, the chair person of those up as opposed to the, the mid, the strong against the immigrants over here. the, the people who came from would run away from the syrian word. we're living over here. so they say if we, when we are going to pick them all out or send them immediately, they have a house at to to which we don't face that. um. okay. yeah. kim, i understood all uh, tweeted that the old position was um ahead. even though the off comes uh it will be accountable by the taxes were not clear. and uh,
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or if you still announced of what do you think of such statements can pull it takes . there is always the propaganda issue that fix people. if, if its your supporters even you come to the less points where you lose. and it is very difficult to say, hey guys, we last time slipping them. nobody wants to say that. so if i take a mistake, because there's federal statements as this, because the reality is, numbers that open all over to r t a, the political parties, not one, not to, you know, including the alliances, may have it. for example, in general, if i could, republican, a lion's head, people on a very balanced books. but they had it really fast had everybody had some representatives including the other group also and they were 6. but these,
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they appointed lawyers, the representatives in every butler folks, and everybody monitored, including the foreign press over 2 years. and everybody accepts that. this is a fed and free election then and this is the result is the with, with the little imagine, mr. that blanket don't that she of the metro to, to let me also add them to the mayor of on could, on most of the of us and the mirror, we stumbled a coming level look, they were given a joint presser, and they, and now and stuff. the new president of the church republicans came on color. start all of your take on this bag on the political countries. i would say, because you know, they would like the rising styles in the thirty's politics. what the last night's performance the made. the rising says godaddy. yeah, well, let's see. and i also want to talk about this elections,
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global impact. mm hm. do you think that this is such a critical election for cherokee and the results? of course, you know, closer to this. now look at turkey, is it in the didn't between asia and your as always it's a said a big piece of land in the mid touring that we have cyprus. the noise in the republic of cyprus says close ties with turkey. we support them, we want them to be living good demo chrissy and living good example. so we have borders with you over this because the greek, but they got in the you the unfortunately wrong the but it says the other 2 that we have borders over there. also we have borders with the new i, the
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e u. countries like we'll get the romania and so so turn key jo politically is a biggest throughout the country. as you know, in the recent conflict and the fights war between ukraine and russia. we tried to follow everything over there because it's affected us all the, the, the agricultural products, it has to go through the uh, both photos and the then as ive straits it to the free world, you know, we, whatever corn which we have produced in ease of ukraine or russia had to go through turkey's land the seas. so the turkey is a very important country, and of course, it will effect everything on the free will. how do you see actually,
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how do as far as the pressure and turkish relations of their directions, considering the level of the carry on booze as it and prosperous is even more because we passed very harsh times. we passed the very difficult times with turkey and russian relations. you know, some 1st, some took, these planes were shot over to syria. and then some russian planes were shot to and it was claimed that 13. so it says that we need to do a boat thing which we did, and so we passed really has passed to now. so after this, for the time being, i don't see any obstacle to get to turkish russia relations in
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a bad situation. plus the people have to keep in mind that the after the us as a has dissolved it doesn't collapse this old. so after that because of the economic relations, there is a lot of mix match manage. so there is a lot of complain, family's house. you're russian or bella rule. so from the former us a sudden how storage. so this also forms the possibility that it's not only the, the political activities or the governmental level, but also on the people's levels including tourism. we have baby could look close relationships. so this, i believe that it will prosperity into construction relations. lolia relations are really good and you say that you expect even more. but i think there was
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a sanctions issue. sure kit is now a not for and the sanctions against russia, but is united nations will impose the sanctions against russia. a realtor cube, b a or bang it? well, it just depends on what comes. it's a, you know, when use speak about sanctions or about the un decisions and so they're all on an talk basis. so, you know, you can generalize and say, oh, we will accept or we will comply or be able to reject all. but when you look at the situation, the, the, the international bodies like the united nations and the other international, but these, which have lived nearly a 100 years, some 60 is they have to be rectified. they have to be more than nice,
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or let's say they have to be updated for the 21st century. it, they don't serve the humanity. they don't serve the piece of the work in nowadays. it isn't like united nations, for example. it isn't the effective as it was in 1960 seventy's decades ago. so now some group of countries gets hold of it and for their own economic advantage, they try to force these international groups to organizations to force countries for the decisions which are not fixed. and which are not equal to the whole people or whole countries of the world. yeah. so it has to be reconsidered. yeah, i'm running out of time. let me also ask you,
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can you tell us shortly? uh, what is your take on 2 kids, accession possibility to the you in the future. but it is a benchmark for turkey. with. we see that it, they always have an excuse not to excel more than 20 years. yes. i know, but the thing is they gave us home x. we took it very seriously. we did all that homeworks, perfect. still, they try to produce new reasons not to accept this, but when they decide to accept the country like romania example and the other, some the eastern european countries, there really is find that the key is trying to quicken up the case. but when it has to key, they try to find new obstacles, new breaks, if you will,
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so to keep turkey out of the use. so we've been 30, we have seen this for decades now. the, you will keep on doing this. but it's is a benchmark for us. we will do a lot of homeworks to will be part of the free world and to have the standards in the most best lives. yeah, my last question. your keeping on your father's quick which of his achievements actually be considered the most important as a milestone. and how do you see his role in turkish history of late to kish, my father had a really big impact on the turkish politics. he started, he works a day by day and night by night, and he h e of such
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a level of understanding and loving him, respecting him that it has been 26 years. he passed the but still the, when you speak about his name or his policies and on the issues of nationalism or keeping the country, insects keeping the people of 30 alert to dangers is coming to us. the key is name is always an iconic name. so it's important. well, for me, if you don't say i'm in the same foot path, i hope so, but i consider myself more to be serving in the 21st century new century. and this new century has some new issues with that. so ours is a bit different. well, that was my final question to the total,
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a wrong just don't you have to safe house after care and engagement equals the trails. when so many find themselves boils, the parts we choose to look so common ground the on cheap energy companies without you rushing gas cheap and suppose affordable. and so if you're in the stables, which has been not the case, the use of will,
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that is no longer there. the people as the one that says it's a cell phone. if i cancel it on the other, should it go. and if it's with, with the water, also understand most of the ship was the boat and you get a new one. you both used. and you can take both of these calculations. i can even remember why if you decide on sanctions to sanction country a sanction the person, because you want to change the behavior of the government was present or that hasn't happened as actions have some sort of the the
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