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problem and welcome to worlds a part for all the different says one thing, russia, china in the united states agree upon is that the world is now at a crucial, perhaps even unprecedented the inflection point the business as usual, no longer feasible or even desirable, but they fundamentally disagree about how far down in history this stage goes and what trajectory of these changes are to take in the future. to discuss that, i'm now joined by timothy board that you of program director of the vault the discussion club in restaurant. it's always a pleasure july to talk to you. uh,

thank you very much for finding the time. a few weeks ago when changes presence should have been wasn't, must course, he told his russian counterparts. i didn't pretend that our 2 countries are now driving the kind of changes the likes of which the world hasn't seen in a 100 years. but you go further than this because in one of your articles here you wrote, the recent said that a transition that the international orders can say, going through is the most significant in the past few 100 years. where do you place the beginning of the current and the beginning of the current and well, i think the rise of china. i think that about 15 years ago china has accumulated unearned, most economic capacities are and political capabilities on the international scene. and 10 years ago when the china is preston, she's in pain. first, the 1st arise to choose and you should to you,

for one built on road. it was the clear indicator that china is per pound and feeling ready to go for. and the toner chief to the west on sources of development. is that necessarily an alternative either or? or just uh, you know, one more addition to what you said. it was just too bad, a wisdom interpretation of the toner to either or a toner teeth in a chinese way. or in a way, is we in wash c 2 does not mean the choice. it means that opportunity is the increasing number of very soon inches. well, nobody in russia or in china says that, for example, in developing countries, so it's not quite the right way. is the international institutions controlled by the west. but the point is that nowadays the developing countries are, are ready. they can actually take one opportunity and another

opportunity while they're doing it too for another charge, if they don't need to make this choice either for and this is there is most essential change in the international distribution of power. so when you're talking about a transition in the international order, the most significant in the past few 100 years, you mean the, the end of this uh, western dominated modo. well, the think is the to the international order is always based on the competitive power categories. so the contracts, and for the last, the 500 years of actually the western countries, western europe then joined western europe and the united states have been the strongest one rusher, was defending its severe range. and russia was defending vigorously. it's right to take the seriousness on its own bond to drink only for very limited period. the

russian soviet union has being a part of the international order mean has been strong enough to be present and the toner to, to the west. but i mean, there again, are, we are coming back to either or a choice. uh, because from what i understand and maybe my knowledge of this, of history is limited, the soviet union, i still have this idea of our international lives. we're taking decisions together . i'm not meeting the only few. the overlords were mountains. uh, everything like god knows which is ultimately the the western id and it's communicated pretty openly in this matter for over a shining city on a hill. it's not only shining, it's also enjoying resources from, from the rest of the globe for its own sake. well, so i mean to me and it was representing a new toner chief, especially in the few contribution to the kids. often they were able to show that in the last uh,

bought the dispute or didn't class to long for the rest of the time. starting from the beginning of the 16 century and almost to an out of the western countries kind of been having actually constructing the international wanted to say how to serve their own development purposes. now the situation has changed the rise of china otherwise of india. so i want, i want to underline is that russia is not the most important players you the most important here. so 1st of all, china and india because they have a nervous cap. it'd be that they haven't known was humans were so successful. i bought 3 billions, a population they share between them, but doesn't, that's these accommodation. no force necessarily translate into influence. real political geo political. you cannot make influence. that's the thing that i think it does, and we overdo, see that many countries of the world actually my keen and or

i could do, right, i can to correct, right, was china. and i put the ranking was china, corporation was russian. we've seen that the arab countries of the middle east of the, of the golf, which have being connected for it was the west for many decades since the independence. the i now convention was china as well. they don't break was the state, but they developed the relationships strongly. and this is the most significant change is that the number of the states we have enough power to be the constituent parts. so the international order is increasing. now, our western partners usually justify what they call their benevolent gemini, by the fact that somebody needs to preside over the scales of conflicting interest . and it's just the united states takes on this burden for the sake of humanity. do you agree with this assumption that the multiplication of international players

would necessarily lead to cares and make the world more prone to conflict as our western partners? the latch? oh, as a matter of fact, to the question, why should people would states food, follow the southern rules? this is the biggest question of political philosophy about uh the other question is that, oh, was the power the state which provides power to make all this for following the rules. he's making rules for, for itself. so it is never, it does now it's just for granted to to and while i'm taking the mission to, to observe the international rules, the united states have been named shortly, maybe even with valid to the bad, real taking the, the, the best prophets from that. so i think that the car in change we'll,

we'll continue for brand a long time. and this is so early to say now, what is going to be international orange because we never leave such a want inside should democratic world when we have so many countries, especially not the western countries. um, i think significant will end up being basically the same role as the worst. and it al smith today. uh, i think carefully, if i'm wrong, it ultimately depends on what is the basis of the social relationship, whether it's power or whether for example, if some neutrality and you are here that the country, it to the western approach where the chinese are offering is development. that is not tied to any specific i logical political outcomes. so actually it's more liberal, it's more permissive, and it's nature and it's more tolerant of, uh, you know, the, the other players, constituents,

the peculiar at peculiarity. why do you seeing the chinese a so as permissive about that, even though they have at least domestically a reputation for us to retire in tendency. oh, i think because we, it isn't possible to make another unit portal world. so everybody in china and russia or need to understand that the west will be the significant one of the most significant offense, but not the only one. and they also are tearing order is possible only when you have one leader. so then you bought the new world and over one not have one later, will have many leaders. and that means that the tool, the democratic by default. that's an interesting notion of why this thing done. the american school still have significant leverage. we enjoyed norm as privileges a trying to 5 history rather than making cars the use of it. well,

because they don't know what to do, they don't know how to leave in the new world. they've gone to, they don't have a name and any ideas on about how to, how to generate the incomes necessary to provide the internal stability and do not have states. so they may need others to as well in a certain way. they need it. the bill to the prosperity and not only on, on the unique internal source of social economic model, but on the ability to extract extra benefits from the rest of the world. no, i don't see any indicators. the united states or europe, the orange luxury prepared for the new ways of leaving him together with their onto the states on the equal basis and before t until until they will understand how to preserve the internal stability without ultimate capabilities on international c. before the and to

or they will try to resist the new, the new, the changes now and just uh, through uh, the united states. and they'll, europe in one basket. but historically, you're expressing your has a very different historical experience. and i would claim, collect a psychological makeup, that trajectory of development has been different the and they faced with different challenges. and you wrote a pretty hard to take seeing that the russia objectively and historically, is an adversary of western europe, not of the united states, but of western europe. which as i said, is hard to take because strong the cold, cold war. and even after that, we tried, and for a while seemingly succeeded in establishing a relationship on more or less equal basis a place to canal mclee. they were cultural exchanges. there were some social interaction. why do you think we are due to being adversary's?

well, russia has been having cause the relationships and culture on to columbus was europe for hundreds years. but it did not prevent us from being conducive a well russian by the, by the faith of history, by uh, by nature, uh, has been the open until forced to europe. seems russia and moved as a big power seems the beginning of the 16th century. and then the authors agreed that russia, as a neighbor's europe used only one non european power, which has been able to defend aids. so very nice in international affairs. but the price which russia pays for that and to replace for that is the permanent, those scenario relationships. me,

which is now pretty much in the open. but let's discuss that. in the 2nd part. we have to take a short break, but we'll get back in just a few moments stitch and the church refreshing it around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality. distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st can you see through their illusion going underground can y.