and, and bite and himself who, who actually prompted and, and encouraged the crew in 2014 in ukraine because they see they see ukraine as the last vestige of ultimately trying to contain russia. if not bring about regime change there. and it is, it is a dying effort. you see a tory newland on, on the air talking about the encouraging the bombing of, of, of crimea. i mean this in drawing crimea, i mean this, this is going on and on until we can get rid of this administration. but now that's in question because everyone's questioning the integrity of our elections. and, and democracy has gone in this country. we, we, we pay lip service to it, but it's, it's a, it's, it's a tragedy. how events have turned. we don't have a country anymore. we don't have a, we don't have a southern border, we've lost our own sovereignty. yet we're defending the border of ukraine. but this is preposterous, and the american people are rightfully concerned about this,

but they have their own, the problems, they have, they have inflation, they've got to deal with all self inflicted by the, by the administration. well, that's your control, that's exert control. that's exactly the point now and the rush, it was supposed to be punished here. but what these neo liberal leads have done is punish their own people. of course these, the leads never feel the pain. allen, a lisa chosen by the ruling class, which is the property owners, that's what one has to realize. we live in a society in which the dominant class, which is the property and is choose the state. and then the state tells everybody wants to using the politic system. so a sounds yeah, says the thing is not to lawful cry, but understand. and i would say, organize, you have to rebuild the movement of the left in my opinion, because i don't think the right is going to provide that solution which will actually organize people to recognize the interest do not lie in a pressing the bell or what? cuz people abroad, so you know, so, but kennedy puts that you cannot have

a democracy or implied economy both. so if you get people to begin to understand the info is inimical to the interest of ordinary folk in europe, in america, in japan, in australia, then you will begin to get well, because the problem is, or the left to the left and right have forgotten about the issue of class i'm a conservative class is a very important issue, but the leads don't want to talk about a gentleman. i have to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the west and ukraine state without the

which i thought there were some openings to the flow that are sounds good right now . let your maple is going to look. you're getting this fellow to post a little the if the is that i, that's a give them minus some other ones i need, which is easy to saw on the screen. so of course, to ensure material, which is the model i'm willing to identify july the again as ordered by which will screw well in the middle of something that we did present to not the beginning of the results. okay. when you make to bundle, we'll just do a solution for short term transform toward which we want you to seriously. similarly, process the

welcome ex. across dock. were all things are considered. i'm peter, let's remind you were discussing the west and ukraine. the okay, let's go to roger, an officer here, one of the, the biggest difference, a major departure from the cold war is that the west during the leads lead by the united states. obviously, have decided to go toe to toe with a peer or near peer power. that was something in, during the cold war, which was a big no, no, you can fight on the periphery, even have proxy wars and all that. but what, what we see with this administration and it's like these are new or my apologies allen and roger, but it's, it's, it's, it's very true. okay? so this is what makes it very dangerous because the u. s. is actually attempting

a peer to peer $1.00 to $1.00 conflict. and at one point the russians may react. i'll tell you, living in this country. a lot of people want a stronger reaction to the, to the the droning of crimea. these cross border attacks on towns. but they're, they're the west is it shouldn't, for a conflict here in ukraine is the trigger. roger. yeah, absolutely. and i think um, the provision that they use was it, and i just found a site training for today's new client and find the policy to use. that's sixteen's and so, and the us saying, well when i even got it, provide them with, with the way of very happy for allies to provide the these planes. so we've been a showed by, um, oh yeah, and yeah, i'm not going to use them over the russian is, i mean this is just nonsense. you know, in the end, we can either rely on politicians to just wake up one morning and do the right thing. well, we can understand, but in the end, the engine of real change is working class people. and that's what we're gonna have

to mobilize is always about organizing how we're gonna get people to stand up and do something about this running the system that we're under. now we're looking, we have this, which is faced with continuous heat pump to say the united states was really great because the, because china got involved helped to broad career paste. it's a inside the right be of any room. at the same time, they all, they move haven't enough headphone a and to try and get some sort of a safe spot again alongside the saturdays. but you want to get a safe spot in the sea down at the moment, but look really hard, but you'll, you'll never find that i have done a single thing to try and get any kind of pace. my moments salted within you try and despite the assets of china, despite the efforts of the and the african mission that that's also being launch,

they are absolutely ruthless. and they said they had been telling people, this is actually about what it is, the airbags, and this was the full spectrum dominance approach that the united states. they know that they have this policy for years. they are clear that anything that comes remotely close to interrupt, saying that at economic military, political dominance of the well, they will come down hard on. so that's why that coming down out on russia. and that's why they're coming down hard on china. we just have to white people up to the so it's an organizing mission in the end for all of us. well, well, well michael, max byron, government jump in, michael, go ahead. yeah, it's back firing. because what, what, what the world the world is beginning to recoil it's, it's evolving and it's going to be accelerating. i'm seeing it with the, with countries that want to join brooks with this, this alternative world order, the multi polar real order that's big in it to a 2 o'clock to come up with

a c and countries. 10 of them just said they're going off the us dollar. uh, that's significant. that is very significant. so they are beginning to recoil against this, this gemini, by the united states. and because, because of the weapon ization of economies and control that the, by the administration has thought over over the world, look, they didn't do europe any favorites. look what it's done to europe. yeah. i made them a basket case. yeah. and, and then walk into what is going toward asian now, the says, i mean, this is quite remarkable. michael, this is what the us does to its friends. okay. not our phones. okay. like that. of course are like what i agree to that friends is they blow up bad pipelines. that's what they do to their friends. well, that's all part of the part part of the part of the game right now. and, but i was, you know, i, i'm, i'm, uh, i studied history that was my,

my academic area as scholarly and, you know, looking at world history, i can think of a case, maybe you can wear a heads your mind just as high or you're right. i'm change my mind, let's all be for us. that's not happening. i'm agreeing with all of you here. but ahead to me on doesn't walk away. i had your mind will probably crate as much a us is possible and bring everybody else down with him. allan, but we basically as of late in the computer is getting paid or i don't think you're a conservative. i think you're a rationalist rationality. so we need rationality stuff. in fact, the usa is not a huge amount. it's an aspiring benjamin. this is filed in the no, no, no, no, no, no, it's the declining hedge fund. i think we could all agree with that. this is the point . now we're going to make this has been declining due to the grocery usa. it's been declining since 1960 is now the 0. don't listen to the people to come. what is basically that kind of balance and say it's doing well. you look at the average g d

p growth of the u. s. i is home the world and that is what is behind the difficulty . the problem is not that china is a threat to the us. the us is a threat to the us. that's bringing about a fundamental change because it can no longer even feed its own people by robbing the rest of the world. and the people will wake up to that, and there are cases with us up and you studied history. look at portugal, 1974 or germany 1918. those were the only cases in the west when that would be revolutionary movements of working people, the vice return government side of the that started with the when they realize they couldn't. we was now when the realization hits the, this is not a whole, but the night code, passcode when i think you'll see a see change. what we have to do is build from the ground up, the movement that recognizes the kind of reconcile and the with democracy. and when that happens, i think you'll see quite launch movements emerging. that will be

a powerful effect on rationality. and hopefully, you know, the result will be done in a peaceful way and peaks and somewhere in the state, we see people from the military who, the site and you know, this doesn't make sense fellow rationalised sign. this is not the way to do things . hopefully this will happen peacefully, but whatever, if they keep suppressing it and they going to produce funds, look at paris, look at from the situation macro in. think of about generalizing. so what we hope is the reason prove vials and the reason prevails. peaceful profile. well, i'm really glad my comments triggered do like that because you're quite, quite um, i think prophetic and, and, and very descriptive of what's going on right now. good job. well done, let's go to roger and oxford with it. okay. i want to push back a little bit here. we had the co been locked down. we had censorship on a massive scale. we know the, the powers that be we are very much involved in the well so called russia gate hugs

. i mean, the, the deck is stacked against as roger as much as we may want to organize. and i'm a conservative, but i can deal very easily with progressives on this issue. but then this is what the powers would be want. they want a separate is always put us in our little boxes and keep us away from each other. and that's one of the reasons this program exists is to bring a wide group of people together on issues where we can find commonality. go ahead, roger. but also, i think, i think we should a, so i'm going back to, well, i'm one of my 1st comments about looking at this through a wider lens of all of them through they can global knowles effectively because i, i think that we really need to use organizing strengths use all of that kind of technology that's, that is now available to us, such as even being able to do this call i, but use the facilities that we've got to engage more with active as in the global

science who have said that they're not prepared to put up with a continual role of the united states being told that they could only trade in the us dollar basically that they pitched all that stuff. and i think we need to link him with them because i think he forever to say, we'll try and just gonna come about because people have organized not just in the global knowles, but haven't linked in ways um, similar progressive full says i'm from the global sites as well, so i've gone really optimistic actually, cuz i, i see a lot of people rising up. i see a lot of people who are not prepared to just put up with and the way that it's always been. and i'm looking for a new world really bad looking for a new way of organizing things. so that the minute by step a line that the united states is not able to decide, well, we're just going to not issue with a lot of bunch of sanctions against it because i wouldn't be able to do that. it

does. it's with the, the, the authorization that's taking place sized, massive, massive shift that's taking place on really optimistic that we're going to see some real change. but only, i think if we make sure the outlines isn't just about the global. no, but it's all about assess, well, roger, you didn't, you can see them, but i can michael in our and or giving thumbs up. we couldn't get in complete agreement. me to all right. oh michael, where do we go from here? because again, and it's, you know, if you ask people in the west, you know how, how important is the grain to it's really low. you know, it's, it's not, it's in double digits right now, but it continues here. and we, and like i said earlier, rush, it was supposed to be published economically, but their own people are and, but can they tolerate dissent? after all, you know, so lensky is the, you know, the, the, the future of democracy and prosperity there with all this garbage that we hear on a, on a regular basis. go ahead, michael. you know, i think, i think as long as the, they keep up,

the pressure that was just described from the global south, the global north and basically isolate the united states so that it becomes a, just a speck of what it used to be. and in terms of trying to take over the world or, or, or force other countries, it's a submission. i think that this is going to be the key. plus you need countries. and people within the countries now the 2 to form a ground swell of opposition to this war and any other wars because they're, they're, they're, they're obsolete. and, and we, we are seeing this, we saw, we thought was vietnam. that's how the vietnam war ultimately. and the people got sick of it, i mean, and there was no, no, uh, n game toward, towards that war except all ideologically inclined individuals who wanted to defeat something that was not, was not the case, no domino series occurred. and,

and that's, and we're seeing an overlay today of, of the united states still trying to make those comparisons with, with russia towards europe and equate him the quite put in with hitler. it doesn't exist. but yet the other 3rd trying to leave with what we're all saying, the chair and for this things to change the this is there has to be an utter failure on the part of the west because it is. yeah. north south. you mentioned your gentleman. that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guess investment when to pay and in oxford. and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our to see you next time. and remember, press on rules the, the, the

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at the stars and i should go to grand staples the way done. the story of fussy, the pools are of a former ukrainian security service officer who cited with russia for ideological reasons in 2014 has documents confirming 2 proteins, criminal activities and ukraine. you took a whole story and they supposedly put the key out as much in your good home that either way it is a corner of the impression that there is but the look, you know, create and it was pretty soft core gonna we design you were going off with a guy that you will be on the support can use now share was to play his district to previously live beast consciously. what i am is not only city but those invites, if you just have to, we're going to under the new transplant those, the authorities, if you create in hospitals, prisons, military units, some orphanages for you to use the organs of anyone under the care,

the law lives the band preventing a transplant surgeon from taking cards in a council of doctors who certified the death of a patient or his brain after which organs can be harvested. because the doctors can now take oregon's, you know, wish to say when they did it. because the net result is the same, the person's life is knocked out, they're not alive. can they complain? except a doctor that is going to know the truth. american journalist, george eliza, has covered developments in ukraine since my dad. he's been involved in easy, you mean graves of civilians killed by ukrainian death squads? he submitted cereals, he connected to the us centers of to which funding for the as all regimen was

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